# Official MX423 discussion thread: stealth diffusion TAA muting emotional reactions

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**Category:** MX Test Results\
**Created:** [August 20, 2011, 8:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx423-discussion-thread-stealth-diffusion-taa-muting-emotional-reactions/61617 "2011-08-20T08:08:25Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 8:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx423-discussion-thread-stealth-diffusion-taa-muting-emotional-reactions/61617/1 "2011-08-20T08:08:25Z")

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**What is MX423?**

**MX423** : Part of Stealth Diffusion Mix Pack Vol 1 (or 2).

We are working out different components of the Stealth Diffusion Technology. The feedback you provide us by testing this mix today will inform how we put together the [fragrance-free pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) products of tomorrow… Pheromone products you can wear completely incognito, but will still fill a room and lead all noses to the celebrity in the room: you!

The mix itself is one molecule, TAA , which is the primary component of our bestselling mix, Instant Shine . It’s light and social, and you can wear it just about anywhere, from daytime to nighttime, both male and female.

**Status:** Not Currently in Production

**Request MX423 here** : [RequestMX@androtics.com](mailto:RequestMX@androtics.com)

**How to Test:**  
Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

What to Report:

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

**Strength** - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

**Length of Effects** - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

**Tenacity** - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

**Effectiveness& Consistency** - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

**Diffusion/Sillage** - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?  
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?  
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?  
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS  
Research Assistant  
Androtics Direct

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 1:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx423-discussion-thread-stealth-diffusion-taa-muting-emotional-reactions/61617/2 "2011-08-25T13:08:25Z")

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**October 20:**

Okay, so received PM messages letting know my Ammunition mix-up has been corrected. Also found that [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) Men formula is unisex. I was confused that there was only one male formulation, but was told it is the same. So, ladies can order the male version.

I met a friend for lunch and decided to try out MX423, the experimental feeebie I received in my order. I sprayed it on my wrists and neck and one spray in my hair, so total of about 3 ful, sprays. I spray on a wrist and smear on the other.

Anyway, ran out the door. Did not encounter anyone in the elevator or lobby. This fragrance was much more appealing to me as a woman. I lightly sprayed some bath & both works, but  
didn’t feel the need to mask this. It is a light floral scent.

Today it was about 45 degrees out and not humid or muggy…clear day. I felt okay and nice energy and in a good mood…I had just had my Shakeology shake, and that seems to give me  
an energy lift.

I listened to my music, but today was in the mood for my regular electronic/Euro mixes.  
Nothing Unusual.

I met my friend and we talked as normal. Didn’t seem strange or more open than normal at all. This is not someone I see all the time either and she is younger, late 20’s.

The waiter was professional and nice and cracking jokes that I initiated, but nothing seemed odd or strange to me.

I did have a couple of men at nearby tables make eye contact many times and stare directly, but again…I make eye contact all the time, so didn’t seem odd.

Other people out there were minding their own business and not paying us any attention.

We left and I came back home. I did have a couple of interesting encounters on the way back in. I stepped in an elevator and noticed a neighbor speaking with the concierge. As the door eas closing, the man runs towards the elevator and sticks his hand in, I press the button to

open the doors. He says he thought I was holding it for him…but I said I didn’t know he was coming, so he chuckled and then started talking about our cold weather and was smiling and making eye contact…which does not happen in elevators much…and I have never talked to this neighbor. Have seen each other, but this was the friendliest I have ever seen him. He  
wished me a good evening when I got off on my floor.

I then got my dogs and walked them…again, down the elevator and ran into a neighbor I do speak with briefly, a female. She had her dog also. She went on and on about my new look and compllimented me heavily. I thanked her. She is usually chatty, so not sure this was anything new.

The interesting encounter was on the way back in. Another neighbor I have found to be super aloof and never friendly walked past me and made intense eye contact…smiled..didn’t say a word, but that was more than I ever get. I walked past him to get back in the elevator and he turned to stare right at me…and was smiling.

It was unusual, as he always ignores me, especially when I have my dogs. Have spoken to him

briefly before, but he never makes eye contact and never smiles.

Well, that’s all I have for now.

I am going to meet a female friend for dinner and chose a crowded restaurant to see if I can  
experiment with some more. May try this Mx423 with SexinessB and see what happens. Hate to use up MX423 because once it is gone, I can’t get more.

I don’t like that there are very limited quantities of items and once they are gone that’s it. Want things go be available when I want them lol.

**Self Effects:**  
I think this one smelled good and I was in a chatty and good mood today. Maybe it was this  
spray. Too vague to know for sure.

So far everything had been vague. Don’t know if it’s the Pheromones at all or just me noticing more potential reactions because I am conducting “field studies”

A true test would be to spray an unsuspecting person and observe what happens to them, if anything. I am going to do this with my husband and ammunition. I will find a way to get this on him and see if hr notices anything strange without realizing he has it on him..that will be  
this weekend.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx423-discussion-thread-stealth-diffusion-taa-muting-emotional-reactions/61617/3 "2012-01-24T02:11:06Z")

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Running MX423 .

Well, lets see I just got some of the stealth diffusion mx’s in to try. Thank you androtics.

Working with mx423 tonight. 1 full pump to left wrist and rubbed my wrists together.

Faint sort of baby powderish scent at least to my nose. Kind of reminds me of the old secret deodorant scent in a roll on.

I’m under a bit of stress today so my reactions may be a bit different than normal if anything.

Feeling a bit spacy/ slowed down and I woke up pretty clear headed. Kind a “too much cough syrup feeling”

Hmm, things are a bit muted. Tension from my natural stress reaction is gone but feelings are still there if softer.

I think I’ll go out and run this around my friends if anyone is about.

5:30 ? - 6:09 pm

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx423-discussion-thread-stealth-diffusion-taa-muting-emotional-reactions/61617/4 "2012-01-24T04:34:58Z")

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Hmm. Ok noticing a change in my verbal response pattern which is interesting. Not quite feeling reptilian but there’s a definite mute on my emotional reactions. Which is kinda helpful right now.

Room mate came home and sniffed my wrist and was like ah my brain hurts.

My own reaction reminds me a bit of my reaction to TAC.

Feels spacy but neutral spacy as opposed to A-Nol spacy which is actively chatty and playful. TAC w A-nol was more tipsy.

Cold and rainy tonight so I’m just sort of watching household reactions.

Room mate tends to be a bit sensitive but has been able to discuss some things without flying off and being defensive or agitated.

I’m somewhat curious how this will test out in a field test. I should have a good opportunity to try that tomorrow.

Scent blends in fairly naturally with my own after a bit  
No strong olfactory cues which actually seems to increase the effect as opposed to decreasing the effect. There was a sharp ozonish note initially but that died down fairly rapidly.

I’d say scent markers blended with [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) may actually cause some disturbance in how we react to them. Considering scent is keyed to memory and different people have differing associations to particular scents.

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx423-discussion-thread-stealth-diffusion-taa-muting-emotional-reactions/61617/5 "2012-01-25T18:02:54Z")

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Meo-est run at the hospital. 60 mcg (i have a 20 mcg spray so three sprays in total one on either side of the back of my neck and one on my left wrist.)

I was actually somewhat concerned about using meo-est around other women but today worked out really well. Little bit stunned? I tend to get negative reactions from women in general socially until they have a chance to get used to my own sig.Even then there is this sort of friction. Negative reactions being, avoidance,anti-social behavior,catty behavior ,defensive posturing and frowning or other body language showing annoyance/irritation. Not sure if its the amount of male hormones I have or what.

Lady at front desk once I got within my 3ftish whap range. Very sociable once engaged lots of smiling,very friendly and helpful.Very amiable demeanor more like a gal pal you’ve known for awhile. mid to late 20s.

Lady upstairs same profile longer time in contact more bubbly and chatty. Lots of smiling although eye contact was met by suddenly looking at the floor here and there.Again friendly and amiable more along the lines of someone you’ve known for awhile. mid 30’s late 40’s.

Ultrasound tech same profile as the front desk lady with some dropped eye contact too.  
Longer exposure time resulted in some quietness and fidgeting. However, once verbally engaged was still friendly with lots of smiles.

The reaction type I got was interesting and closer to the lines of mx335 .However, mx335 provides a status lift and had a tendency to amp the avoidance behavior women normally have around me.

I’m a bit intrigued. I always more paid attention to the male reactions when I wore meo-est . I’m going to have to revisit this one.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx423-discussion-thread-stealth-diffusion-taa-muting-emotional-reactions/61617/6 "2012-01-27T17:44:45Z")

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24 1 12

Mx423 togo – 2 ½ spray in chest and left wrist rubbed together.

Today Clear Hi: 21°C  
Lo: 8°C  
• Barometer 1017.4 mb  
• Dewpoint 6°C  
• Humidity 77%  
• Visibility 1 km  
• Rainfall in Last hr NA  
• Rainfall in Last 24 Hrs NA  
• Wind 14 km/hr W  
• Sunrise 07:13  
• Sunset 17:53  
• UV Index 1 Low

I read somewhere that you guys want all the possible details in reports, we can provide for the new technology of stealth diffusion. Hence I included the above detail.

I applied mx423 at 9.00 am. I was feeling good and up lifted. I was working in office and did some talking with ,my jrs and again I told them things which I normally would not tell. I don’t’ know if this is cos of mones or the situations are making me talk openly. Whatever, I am testing so I am not judging things.

One self effect of husky voice I get from TAA is there too but it is lighter then MX 300 or IS or Just TAA. I have to see if that increases if I increase the dose. Another probable self effect is, my friend was in my mind despite I am working. My mind goes back to him repeatedly, I am having tough time to control myself not to call him and disturb. He is away for work and we have not spoken for some days. i am having intimate and sensual thoughts, and am wanting to be with him, not in a sexual way but more of intimate, romantic and cuddly way.

At gym in evening after work –

I refreshed the application with 2 more sprays.

I got a lot of attention from my trainer and he made sure that he is around to help me in workout. Though he attended other s as well, but kept coming back to me without asking. I saw some other trainer who were walking past me have turned heads to look back.

I was busy in my workout, not many hits today. I did not go to anybody but my trainer gave me a lot of attention that’s all.

Will do more testing and share here.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx423-discussion-thread-stealth-diffusion-taa-muting-emotional-reactions/61617/7 "2012-01-27T17:45:51Z")

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25 1 12  
At 8 am

Mx 423 to – 2 sprays, 1 in chest 1 in neck.

Temprature Today Fair Hi: 21°C Lo: 10°C  
Current Conditions (as of 10:30)  
Mostly Cloudy  
14°C  
Feels like: 14°C  
• Barometer 1017 mb  
• Dewpoint 6°C  
• Humidity 58%  
• Visibility 2 km  
• Rainfall in Last hr NA  
• Rainfall in Last 24 Hrs NA  
• Wind 9 km/hr W  
• Sunrise 07:12  
• Sunset 17:54  
• UV Index 3 Moderate  
I was going to the gym so I applied my mix after 20 mins of shower. Got ready and hit the gym at 8.20

Self effects - I felt happy and good. Not much of self effects. I could smell the mones in my chest. But it was very faint and sweet smell.

Effects on others – I got in the gym and was waiting for the escalator and just moving here and there in front of the door. As the door of escalator opened and I entered, Someone followed me after. As I was facing the door I did not see anyone coming to my direction. He was a guy around 30. I saw him checking me out. He dared. He smiled and asked me gym??? I said yes and smiled back. So he pressed the 3 floor button. Looked in my eyes again but I tried to look somewhere else ….so he said have you joined recently. I said yes. He continued …how many days? I told him 4-5 days. he said oh but I haven’t seen you before here. I said but I come both the times morning and evening. He said that’s what I am wondering. How is it possible that I hvn’t seen you cos I am the gym manager and he took out his hand for a handshake. I greeted him and just then escalator stopped. I got out and went to the wet area directly. I changed and came to the gym. My trainer had a twinkle in his eyes. He asked me why I missed the gym yesterday. I did not gave him a reason deliberately. I saw him checking me out and he smiled then. We started the workout. After 30 mins or so he told me to do some squats with weights, which I refused jokingly. So he stood there and made sure that I finish & do it properly. Then he made me do some reverse kick boxing. So he was standing in front of me and I almost took my feet up in the air close to his face to pretend I am hitting him. He managed to escape and laughed. He said what??? And I told him cos you are so tough on me, so I will be too. I was embarrassed later cos doing something like that is unusual for me.

I noticed 2 female trainers trying to come to me asking if I need any help for using the equipment. I Thanked them, and said no but they had their eyes on me all the time. I noticed that gym manger was looking at me a lot while i was working out and he was unconsciously following me, while moving around in gym.

Those were the observations in the gym and then I moved out . hit the wet area , had shower, changed and got ready for work.  
As I had shower I applied 2 more shots while driving. Within 5 mins of application I reached my workplace.

Mx 423 - 1 in chest 1 in neck.

I started my day with working on my notebook. I was showing something and instructing my 3 jr team members and one of colleague came in our cabin. I was sitting on the chair and girls were around me looking at the screen. we all four girls were in each others space. This person joins in and within a min he changed his position and stood next to me putting his hand on my shoulder asking me what am I showing. I wished him good morning but ignored his question and continue with my discussion. So he pinched me in my bicep and said why I am being so pricy and why I am so joyous today? I asked him to stop as it was hurting. On this he kept on pinching me harder and my jrs started laughing on this. he gave me around 15-18 hard pinches. I tried to save my arms but he held my hands and pinched me more n more. Finally I took my hand out to do a handshake so he will stop pinching me. And he pressed my hand so badly and it hurt me a lot as I was wearing finger rings and they got into my flesh. I just shook him off and asked him what happened to him today? What made you do that today??? He said its not me but something has happened to you as you are in so good mood. I said I am normal. And he said ok so I am abnormal. We all laughed a lot and my jrs kept on teasing me even after he left the cabin. he even said that am I planning to have a baby soon???that was very unusual ….. that comment did not made any sense in that situation and that has something to do with this Mx….(doest it make people think about sex?, isn’t that what he meant, making babies ……?)

Distance – from 1 feet to apprx 10 feet in cabin. The gym must be around 50 – 60sq feet. But I hv seen the manager who was moving around was in range of 10 – 12 feet apart. But earlier he got exposed to my cloud in escalator at 2-3 feet distance. My trainer was in 1-2 feet apart throughout my workout. The female trainers were moving in apprx 7-8 feet distance most of the time except for the times they had to go attend others. but they are coming back around me.

Silage – can’t say much on this as of now. Need more testing to understand this.

Efficacy – it lasted till 5.5 hrs. its 1.30 pm and I rubbed my back of hand on my application point on neck. I can feel the same faint sweet smell.

Summary – Had uplifted mood, happy and light feeling, got attention from people.

I didn’t see any extraordinary hit so far. I want to try with more doses. After work I will return to gym and see what happens with 3 sprays.

In evening I hit the gym with 3 sprays of mx423 in neck.

I noticed some people were looking at me with some kind of question in their eyes. My trainer was happy and open and even talking to me about his personal things. When I was working out, I saw a man between 30- 35 yrs actually stopped working out and staring me continuously for 10-15 mins while I exercise. Another boy in early 20ies was also following me. He was choosing all the machines to work out adjacent to mine. No more hits to report. I came home and carried on with my routine. I see no difference in my chick while dealing with me at home. Isn’t she affected or by that time mones have all gone???

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx423-discussion-thread-stealth-diffusion-taa-muting-emotional-reactions/61617/8 "2012-01-27T17:47:28Z")

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27 1 12

Today Fair Hi: 21°C Lo: 7°C  
Fog  
9°C Feels like: 8°C  
• Barometer 1017.7 mb  
• Dewpoint 7°C  
• Humidity 87%  
• Visibility 0 km  
• Rainfall in Last hr NA  
• Rainfall in Last 24 Hrs NA  
• Wind 6 km/hr W  
• Sunrise 07:12  
• Sunset 17:56  
• UV Index 1 Low

Mx 423 – 2 in neck bith sides.

Self effects – I feel happy and uplifted.

Effects on others - I sprayed and reached the gym. As I entered I saw the cleaning boy standing in the reception. I walked past and reached the escalator. Suddenly I heard good “morning mam”I looked around but I saw no one, so I turned back to escalator. Then I heard “its me mam” . I turned back and saw the same boy smiling. He said in our local language – that its me who just wised you good morning” I smiled back and wished him and got into escalator. That’s very unusual for this boy as he see me everyday but maybe today got exposed to the mones.

I got into the wet area passage, which leads to different mens and women’s areas. In the middle a boy stopped me and asked if I want a towel??? Oh that’s again different cos he too see me everyday(when he is sitting on his seat behind glass) but today he was coming out and was in passage , so maybe he also got exposed to mones.

The very good point is that both these boys are aroung 20 -25 yrs and they reacted just the moment I was in 2 feets apart, and I was walking past. So maybe the Silage is strong in this area.

I started my workout and one instructor came to me. I met him first day of visit. I saw him one more day but then he working with someone else in the other corner of the gym. So today he noticed me and came to say hi. I greeted him. he turned back to go but then suddenly stopped and came back. it was apparent that then he did not wanted to leave and there was a constant smile on his face. He kept on talking on something or the other. He specially went all the way to get my health report print out from machine and gave it to me. He mentioned that he is impressed with the kind of report I had. He suggested me so many supplements and bla bal bla things. Throughout my workout he was accompanying me in the gym. I was happy and open. This boy is also between 25-30yrs.

No more hits in the gym and I moved on to have shower and got redy for work. After shower though I did not wash my application points on neck I still put 1 more spray of mx 423 and came to work. I came up kept my stuff on the seat and moved to ladies. I was standing in front of the mirror and suddenly my jr team member entered. She was taken a back and stood still for some seconds. I smiled at her and asked why she is shocked. She could just managed to say that she likes me…… I said what??? And she said that when she entered, she saw me, and I looked sooooooo good. I said but I have nothing special today. She said no but you are still looking special.. I was wearing my red sweat shirt and regular blue demin. I can’t make out what was so special in that.

When I reached my seat I complimented one of my coworker whom I avoid everyday. And then later I thought what made me compliment him. huh that’s not me but MX 423 working on me…. So it does make me open and happy enough to forget small dislikes….

These are the hits till 12 in the noon, which makes 4 hrs of mones around me. I am still feeling happy and content. Still can smell faint smell of mones on my neck if I rub my finger there and smell it. No more hits coming if office maybe cos I am sitting and working on notebook. And quickly made this report also…..

Will again the results in evening in gym.

Distance – All the hits came when targets were within 2 to 10 feets range. Cloud around the body (today) till 2 feet’s seems to be strong enough to hit people.

Silage – found it strong today, or maybe I am learning to know how it works and how to guage it.  
Efficacy – I could smell them till 12 pm. I am smiling and laughing more and feel uplifted till this time. I am also feeling a change in me that I am more open when i am using mx423.

Summary – This mix is making me uplifted, open, smiling, laughing. People are responding with the same behavior. It hits them more when they are closer. Seems to be a good social mix. I get attention and stares while wearing it. My results are good today. Looking forward to the afternoon and evening applications and results.

Evening – 2 sprays in neck

At gym.  
Got attention from 2-3 trainers.  
Got smile from people whom I walked past. The gym manager came to a lady working next to greet her. But I saw him when he was entering he was looking at me. So he thought I would respond as well. I did ignore him deliberately. But he still managed to look at me when I had my eyes up and the moment we had eye contact he smiled. I smiled and ignored him again. So he went back. I am sure cos I was not acting congruent to my current signature, he had no choice but to move back. If I would have responded , I am sure he would have talked to me.

I kept on getting attention and smiles from the male and female trainer . not much to observe. I am still on with the test. Some more left in my togo, so some more tests are lined up…… will see….
