# Oh you sneaky little Devil: An interesting P83 / P74 / P91 observation

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oh-you-sneaky-little-devil-an-interesting-p83-p74-p91-observation/50284>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 12, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oh-you-sneaky-little-devil-an-interesting-p83-p74-p91-observation/50284 "2011-05-12T19:54:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oh-you-sneaky-little-devil-an-interesting-p83-p74-p91-observation/50284/22 "2011-05-17T21:40:47Z")

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> [@thegentleman](#):
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> **Mix:**  
> [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) , [P91](https://pheromonelabs.com/) , [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) Mixed in 5ml ToGo @ 2.5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) per spray
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> While this was at a “church function.” I haven’t quite yet experienced anything so inappropriate to warrant concern. But there are (yes I’m a sickly bastard) a couple of desirable targets who frequent this Church so what the hell.
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> **Cover Scent:**  
> Angel for Men by Thierry Mugler
> 
> **App Points and Dosage:**  
> 2 sprays L, R Neck
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> **Venue:**  
> Church Function
> 
> We do a variety of charity work, and one of them is a Church we sponsor. This is in one of the worst neighborhoods in Vegas, but there are some really good people who are trying hard to improve their lives going there.
> 
> In some cases, only one apt has electricity and everyone around their shares it, and another provides the water etc.
> 
> We generally feed the children lunch and provide some entertainment, and then after services we feed the adults. For some this is their only meal of the day
> 
> **Application Time:**  
> 10:00 am, arrived approximately 10:20 am
> 
> **Weather / Temp:**  
> Cool outdoors in the low 80’s.  
> Warmer inside until A/C was turned on. Roughly 73 degrees, but somewhat muggy.
> 
> **Distance:**  
> 2-3 feet from targets.
> 
> **Self-Effects:**  
> Still no real noticeable self-effects.
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> **Effects On Others:**  
> **Coffee Girl** - 25-32 years old, Caucasian, very attractive.  
> I mentioned this cutie in a post awhile back. She had been eying me when we first saw each other, then at one point just came over and intro’d herself to me.  
> I saw her again yesterday, she again was intrigued, I could see it in her eyes. She smiled when I arrived, but the strange thing was she kept her distance, but kept eying me throughout the entire morning. She would go out of her way, leaning around people etc just to see what I was up to.  
> I did attempt to open her up a couple of times, but didn’t get anywhere. It was rather strange.
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> **Suzie-Q** - 35 years old Caucasian, somewhat attractive. Very strong and confident woman who just adores me.
> 
> I mentioned Suzie in the last post about this Church. She was the one who went in for 2nds when it came to smelling my neck. She didn’t react this time towards my scent. But she did linger around much more than she did last time.
> 
> She invited me outback so she could have a smoke. We quickly got to talking about relationships and dating. She told me in no uncertain terms that I knew exactly what a woman was looking for in this day and age in a man. She then told me she wanted to get together with me and discuss this all some more.
> 
> Throughout the day I would do small checks for compliance and rapport. She was matching body language. At one time when we were talking with another group of people, I slid my arm around her and put my hand on the small of her back. And when she came to give me a hug when she left, I didn’t do the friends arms over her shoulder type hug I gave her earlier that morning, I put my arm around her waist and pulled her in tight.
> 
> she was a bit flustered after that, it was very apparent she wasn’t thinking clearly after that…LOL. Fun fun fun.
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> **Thoughts and Conclusions:**  
> I can’t wait to see where Steve is taking this mix. I for one want to layer in a few more components for shits and giggles to see what they could do with an already subtle but powerful little mix.

Did you apply -none though? For girls my age, should I just leave the -none out? I have 2 more days in school and I’M DONE HIGHSCOOOLLL!!! 😃 You think this mix is worth it? 'm thinking about the old reliable [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/)+Ammo+IS… thoughts?

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**Author:** ![cjw255](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cjw255](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cjw255)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oh-you-sneaky-little-devil-an-interesting-p83-p74-p91-observation/50284/23 "2011-05-17T22:33:36Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Who are you asking this of?

You haha

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oh-you-sneaky-little-devil-an-interesting-p83-p74-p91-observation/50284/24 "2011-05-18T18:39:22Z")

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> [@cjw255](#):
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> I’ve been wondering this lately but since you test a seriously crazy amount of products a lot of them on the same women I’d assume? m Couldn’t they remember certain ones you wear, almost like a memory they’d stick to you, and couldn’t that effect results? I mean, I guess you’ve gotten all different kinds of reactions

I am a very social person, but I am also a business owner and have a full time consulting job with AD. Monday’s and Tuesdays I go to BuckyStars to have coffee and get some work done. Most other days I am out and about and go to many different locations and interact with many different people. BuckyStars is a great testing ground because I do know how they react to mones. If I wear things like TUTH I get a specific reaction. Its called setting your base. I’d rather have a person who I know the reaction from to test on than strangers. Strangers could simply be attracted, horny, social… where as someone who reacts the same each time then changes when my mix changes tells me a lot more.

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**Author:** ![cjw255](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cjw255](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cjw255)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oh-you-sneaky-little-devil-an-interesting-p83-p74-p91-observation/50284/25 "2011-05-18T19:14:59Z")

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Awesome answer, thank you. Its 100% clear to me now

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oh-you-sneaky-little-devil-an-interesting-p83-p74-p91-observation/50284/26 "2011-05-18T21:50:14Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> I’d rather have a person who I know the reaction from to test on than strangers. Strangers could simply be attracted, horny, social… where as someone who reacts the same each time then changes when my mix changes tells me a lot more.

Exactly…which is why I liked my old store because I had a pretty good baseline on my customers there…both male and female.

I’m now having to learn how some new customers react now that I’m working in two different stores throughout the week.

Like for example, young female maybe 19-21 in line and I see her looking my direction. I make eye contact and smile at her. As soon as she comes to the hand off window her pupils are all dilated and she’s a bit nervous.

Now no way in hell she got hit by my phero cloud that quickly (IS + IH)…so chalk it up to good ol’ fashioned attraction…which if we had talked for a bit and then I noticed. Since I didn’t know her, I would have assumed mones.

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oh-you-sneaky-little-devil-an-interesting-p83-p74-p91-observation/50284/27 "2011-06-15T20:06:38Z")

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**Mix:**  
[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) , [P91](https://pheromonelabs.com/) , [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) Mixed in 5ml ToGo @ 2.5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) per spray

TUTH at 5mcg per spray 30ml bottle65

**Cover Scent:**  
Angel for Men by Thierry Mugler

**App Points and Dosage:**  
P Mix - 3 sprays, L, R Neck, 1 split between arms.  
TUTH - 2 sprays across belly under shirt.

**Venue:**  
Car trip around town

Country girl wanted to just hang out for a bit before I headed down to the RIO to check out my buddy who’s playing in the WSOP.

**Application Time:**  
10:00 am, arrived approximately 10:20 am

**Weather / Temp**  
Beautiful Las Vegas night. Cool upper 80’s, light breeze no humidity.

**Distance:**  
2-3 feet from target

**Self-Effects:**  
I woke up from a nap after opening up that morning and I was a bit groggy, did not notice any self-effects.

**Effects On Others:**  
Tonight there was a bit of a clinging effect from Country Girl.  
She wanted some company while she went out and did a bit of shopping so I joined her, on the 2nd part of our trip her 14 year old son joined us as well.  
When I drop her off at the house, normally her departure is rather quick. I mean super quick. Unless there’s already plans for me to go up and spend some time with her… “Good night, thanks” peck on the lips, out the door and on her way up in about 30-45 seconds.

But tonight, her son got out of the car and she just would’t leave…LOL.  
She knew I had plans to be somewhere but she just couldn’t seem to find a reason to exit the car. I’ve only seen this on a couple of occasions with her, and that was when I was wearing another mix that seems to work well with her.

This was such a random event, and so out of character for her that it stood out so much so, that I felt it had to do with the mix.  
The last time I wore this mix around her I got decent results, but with the addition of none to the mix I think it really amped it up.  
I am going to have to try this mix again on her when we have more time to explore possible outcomes a bit more.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oh-you-sneaky-little-devil-an-interesting-p83-p74-p91-observation/50284/28 "2011-06-15T20:15:43Z")

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TG you used 7.5 mcg/spray strengths and portioned em out evenly in the to-go I’m guessing.

If so how long did you let it sit?

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oh-you-sneaky-little-devil-an-interesting-p83-p74-p91-observation/50284/29 "2011-06-15T20:19:56Z")

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Its been about a month since I mixed this togo…I used the mix calculator to come up with the mix as it would fit with Steve’s mix.

Here’s the post I made on this thread about how I needed to mix it.

> [@Oh you sneaky little Devil: An interesting P83 / P74 / P91 observation](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oh-you-sneaky-little-devil-an-interesting-p83-p74-p91-observation/50284/6):
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> Okay according to the mix calculator I’m gonna need 10 sprays of 74 and 83, 8 of 91 and 12 of alcohol into a 5ml togo bottle. I’ve got a fresh sterile one ready to go. Tmrw is a get together for country girl’s b-day, there’s gonna be a small crowd, some libations, and me. country girl is being visited by aunt flow this week, so she’s out of the qwerstion…but there will be other targets that I can play with as long as it doesn’t go any further than that in front of her.

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