# Oil Based IShine (x2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Store Announcements & Feedback\ **Created:** [April 23, 2006, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oil-based-ishine-x2/306 "2006-04-23T23:17:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oil-based-ishine-x2/306/1 "2006-04-23T23:17:43Z")
I think the only problem I have with this product is, yes, the diffusion is great, but boy does it wear off fast. Ive noticed better results when I apply IS on the top of my undershirt (armpits). it slips thru my clothes slowly. and works a lot better. just a thought.šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oil-based-ishine-x2/306/2 "2006-04-24T05:40:39Z")
I agree. _Reducing_ diffusion and increasing tenacity would be a desirable quality for the way [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) affects others, and creating an oil version will do that. For me, it works best on the neck (for immediately positive self-effects), but longest on my hair (for itā€™s effects on others). One of the users here - Visionary - has mentioned here that he likes Shineā€™s base molecule (TAA), when it diffuses even _faster_ than it does in Instant Shine. With unscented ExperiMone TAA, he gets a powerful 30 minute to an hour boost in confidence & expressiveness of greater intensity than he finds with Instant Shine. Ideally, itā€™d be excellent to diffuse this molecule at 3 different degrees of diffusion. I wish I could do that all in one bottle. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 1:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oil-based-ishine-x2/306/3 "2006-04-24T13:35:34Z")
Iā€™ve been pointing the IShine spray so that it hits my undershirt shoulders, sides of my neck, and some to my head hair with each spray. Sorta covering all the bases. (Default application has been two sprays, one to each front side of body.) Canā€™t say I have seen any responses I can ascribe _soley_ to IShine, but when I get together with my younger-that-me-by-a-whole-lot item-of-interest she seems to do alot of arm hitting and touching during our conversations. Possibly more so than if I went without Shine, but Iā€™m having such a good time enjoying the interactions Iā€™m too wussy to try a meeting without IShine šŸ˜› I _could_ just be from a ā€œnaturalā€ progression of our relationship as time goes by, and not enhanced by Shine. then again why take a chance heh? Plus the diffusive nature (Iā€™m thinking) of the IShine product seems to be helping get other products I have been experimenting with wearing at the same time ā€œout thereā€ a bit better (earlier reference somewhere here I made to Chikara scent). Oil-based versions of some of the other Androtics products may be a good idea if you need to slow down the diffusion rate maybe? Or limit exposure to just nearby or certain ā€œtargets,ā€ especially with something like IH?? Just a thought. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oil-based-ishine-x2/306/4 "2006-04-25T01:04:48Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > I agree. _Reducing_ diffusion and increasing tenacity would be a desirable quality for the way Instant Shine affects others, and creating an oil version will do that. > > For me, it works best on the neck (for immediately positive self-effects), but longest on my hair (for itā€™s effects on others). > > One of the users here - Visionary - has mentioned here that he likes Shineā€™s base molecule (TAA), when it diffuses even _faster_ than it does in Instant Shine. > > With unscented ExperiMone TAA, he gets a powerful him a powerful 30 minute to an hour boost in confidence & expressiveness of greater intensity than he finds with Instant Shine. > > Ideally, itā€™d be excellent to diffuse this molecule at 3 different degrees of diffusion. I wish I could do that all in one bottle. ive been putting on my neck and head (no hair shaved head) and it diffuses so fast, which is why i tried it on my undershirt, and noticed it worked really well. my undershirts are light cotton, which i change every day. even if it doesnt come off, i wouldnt mind an IShine OD šŸ˜ƒ are you planning on making IS oil based??? i was surfing the site after my post and noticed you wrote something a while back.šŸ˜® turns out you were thinking the same thing too.šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![thr3shold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thr3shold/32/2316_2.png) [@thr3shold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thr3shold)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 9:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oil-based-ishine-x2/306/5 "2006-04-25T09:16:49Z")
Wonā€™t alcohol and oil mix? ---
**Author:** ![thr3shold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thr3shold/32/2316_2.png) [@thr3shold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thr3shold)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 9:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oil-based-ishine-x2/306/6 "2006-04-25T09:17:39Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > Ideally, itā€™d be excellent to diffuse this molecule at 3 different degrees of diffusion. I wish I could do that all in one bottle. I thought alcohol and oil would mix? ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oil-based-ishine-x2/306/7 "2006-04-26T15:39:26Z")
> [@thr3shold](#): > > I thought alcohol and oil would mix? Most oils do. Thatā€™s how the Instant line is setup (perfumers compounds and alcohol), as well as the ExperiMone sprays (DPG and alcohol). This is, at best, biphasic, the initial release phase in the Instant line being attenuated. Each phase is time extended by the fragrance compounds. The ExperiMone sprays donā€™t diffuse [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) nearly as long as a mostly DPG-based mixture (an ā€œoilā€ product). ---
**Author:** ![Pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ab097/32.png) [@Pete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pete)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2006, 2:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oil-based-ishine-x2/306/8 "2006-05-18T14:37:33Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > The ExperiMone sprays donā€™t diffuse pheromones nearly nearly as long as a mostly DPG-based mixture (an ā€œoilā€ product). I know that you can request to have the Neroli scent added to your experimones, which ā€œhighly increases the effectiveness of pheromones.ā€ But if someone wanted to lengthen the diffusion time of their unscented experimones (beta -nol in particular), what would you suggest? Would it be to add some EO? How much should be added? Are there certian EOs that would do this better that others? I ask this because you may recall from another post that I ordered some experimones but couldnā€™t find the option to request to have the Neroli scent added. Jasmin is sending me a vial of Neroli scent to add to my bottle, but I think I might keep some of the product unscented for experimental purposes. Iā€™d just like some tips for adding my own EOs to the product. Thanks!