# ok cant figure something out help please **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 22, 2009, 6:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-cant-figure-something-out-help-please/34283 "2009-11-22T06:56:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tourch10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tourch10/32/2390_2.png) [@tourch10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tourch10)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 6:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-cant-figure-something-out-help-please/34283/1 "2009-11-22T06:56:04Z")
Ok yestarday was the first day i tried my a314 2 to wrists 2 to neck. I got a very powerful self reaction to it and so did several people at work. I put the same amount on today did the same flirting but nothing… What went wrong or why didnt effect me or anyone? ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 8:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-cant-figure-something-out-help-please/34283/2 "2009-11-22T08:08:12Z")
> [@tourch10](#): > > Ok yestarday was the first day i tried my a314 2 to wrists 2 to neck. I got a very powerful self reaction to it and so did several people at work. I put the same amount on today did the same flirting but nothing… What went wrong or why didnt effect me or anyone? 4 drops is probably too much. Most younger guys Ive read about here (including myself) are successful with just 1-2 (maybe 3, **maybe** ). Also remember that if it was too much that the worst culprit for being too much (androstenone or none) is one of the stickiest mones out there. So unless you did a major scrubdown of your application points, chances are it would have only gotten worse the second day. It may also just be that you need to get more used to congruence with the mones and the mones themselves at lower doses first. It is possible that you may someday soon after getting those two down that you can go with higher doses like that, but for now start lower. Also if you have IG, then I would try alternating every other day between IG and a314. One more thing, if you tried it with people who know you particularly well, it may take some time before they recognize this as the new you, especially when starting with such a high dose. Using mones on people you know well is great for comparison to their normal response, but sometimes they can’t be clubbed over the head with mones as easily as a stranger. If you use less you’ll get more, AND save more money. And if you get that accidental extra drop, personally, I would wipe it off if I knew it would cause me to OD for something important ro me. It feels like a waste I know, but it encourages you to get better at the dropper thingy, and once you have tasted the difference between too much and your sweet spot, you won’t think it is wasting either. Of this I am sure. But if its not important to you, leave it on for experimentation, or do whatever you want with it. ---
**Author:** ![tourch10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tourch10/32/2390_2.png) [@tourch10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tourch10)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 8:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-cant-figure-something-out-help-please/34283/3 "2009-11-22T08:15:46Z")
actually that clears it up alot ty so much for the well thought response im gonna try the suggestions and see what i come up with. ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 8:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-cant-figure-something-out-help-please/34283/4 "2009-11-22T08:22:45Z")
> [@tourch10](#): > > actually that clears it up alot ty so much for the well thought response im gonna try the suggestions and see what i come up with. No problemo. Actually I had the same kind of problem, except it was a way larger none OD, but I had the same problem of no seeming difference in responses, because everyone knew me. So I embarrassingly OD’d for like a week straight till I started seeing differences. Thank god for people’s forgetfullness, especially once one finds their sweet spot! ---
**Author:** ![tourch10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tourch10/32/2390_2.png) [@tourch10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tourch10)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 9:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-cant-figure-something-out-help-please/34283/5 "2009-11-22T09:04:28Z")
lol yeah that had to be it i was wondering why my friend was acting like a d!ck to me the whole night hes very alpha himself guess he didnt like the competition or something. yeah ill have to tone it down alot ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 9:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-cant-figure-something-out-help-please/34283/6 "2009-11-22T09:27:47Z")
Actually A314 is primarily Androsterone and only a TINY bit of -none with some other steering molecules so I really doubt that it was -none OD. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 9:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-cant-figure-something-out-help-please/34283/7 "2009-11-22T09:38:14Z")
To be exact, A314 is 80% androsterone–the fatherly authority mone–and the remaining 20% is divided among among a bunch (16 last time I heard) of steering mones. Pretty much trace amounts I suppose and androstenone is merely one of those in the 20%. It does impart some edginess to the “papa” vibe of androsterone. Personally I greatly prefer the classic 7 mone A314 of yesteryear. It’s more in your face but apparently LS no longer sells it and we’re stuck with the more tame and well buffered girlieboy A314. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-cant-figure-something-out-help-please/34283/8 "2009-11-22T09:43:12Z")
That sucks Gegogi, sold out right before I could try the classic A314 over at LS. Sucks. > [@Gegogi](#): > > To be exact, A314 is 80% androsterone–the fatherly authority mone–and the remaining 20% is divided among among a bunch (16 last time I heard) of steering mones. Pretty much trace amounts I suppose and androstenone is merely one of those in the 20%. It does impart some edginess to the “papa” vibe of androsterone. Personally I greatly prefer the classic 7 mone A314 of yesteryear. It’s more in your face but apparently LS no longer sells it and we’re stuck with the more tame and well buffered girlieboy A314. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-cant-figure-something-out-help-please/34283/9 "2009-11-22T17:44:06Z")
> [@tourch10](#): > > lol yeah that had to be it i was wondering why **my friend was acting like a d!ck** to me the whole night hes very alpha himself guess **he didnt like the competition** or something. yeah ill have to tone it down alot That’s a classic A314 response. Lower the dose but don’t be afraid of wearing it around this guy. That will give you a chance to work on your alpha congruence by not letting his BS affect you. Remember that someone who knows you will take time to change their perception. Sounds like this guy is on the phero sensitive side and those kinds of people are great for calibrating yourself both in pheromone use and in your congruence to the [pheromones](https://a314.com/). ---
**Author:** ![tourch10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tourch10/32/2390_2.png) [@tourch10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tourch10)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-cant-figure-something-out-help-please/34283/10 "2009-11-22T22:57:11Z")
wonder why they didnt want the last years model. To much of something? you would think they would give ya a option of buying the later of the two.