# ok do not use mones around the mentally challenged

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 18, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396 "2010-06-18T15:06:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/1 "2010-06-18T15:06:37Z")

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So I’m scraping the bottom of the barrel until I place my next order. So I manage to get two good sprays of mx347 one spray of ammo2x, a spray of shine and instant honesty.  
I am without a car this week so I board the bus. Almost immediately this heavy set girl who seems to be mildly retarded opens on me. Not only telling me her whole life story, but adding that she works with kids, likes little kids, asks me if I like kids, and tells me she doesn’t have any kids of her own…but wants some.  
Now A314 and I assume ,mx347 tend to raise status to the point where most girls might consider you “out of their league” but I suspect this girl being mentally challenged, had no concept of status, or a person being TOO high value for her. It was awkward but interesting none the less.

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**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/2 "2010-06-18T15:29:30Z")

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Yeah I’ve noticed the same, the less social barriers someone has the more reaction to what your wearing you get.

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**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/3 "2010-06-18T16:29:11Z")

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Imagine how i feel riding the Subway in NYC! lol…actually yes I’ve come across the exact same thing. In NYC a bum will talk to you whether you wear mones or not a lot of times…but I noticed that those people who wouldn’t necessarily be homeless, but you can tell are a bit off balance or touched in the head, …do respond verbally out loud very quickly.

I had on [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) & A314 a few weeks ago and I sat down next to a women in the subway…I never touched her in the slightest, but after a few moments, she started talking to the people and other strangers about how rude I was …??? i had to chalk it up to mones.

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/4 "2010-06-18T16:50:40Z")

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people with lower inhibitions are along the same lines as mentally challenged.

Basically anyone who has less control over their brain will react more stronger to olfactory sense stimulation.

which is why wearing Phero’s to a club where people are drinking will allow a person to have more success than wearing them to a library.

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/5 "2010-06-18T16:51:07Z")

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Wow this kinda scares me seeing as i just ordered some MX301. Do yo have to be careful with the MXs?

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**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/6 "2010-06-18T16:56:42Z")

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> [@Jabez](#):
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> Wow this kinda scares me seeing as i just ordered some MX301. Do yo have to be careful with the MXs?

MX’s aren’t for beginners…so yeah you do have to be careful. but just don’t go the route I go.

I’d still call myself a begiiner cause I’ve been using for 3 months, but I do it everyday and take notice…and I like to experiment. I don’t mind really…I do the opposite…I OD first and then go backwards…I did it for AMMO that way I get some kind of reaction. And I found out the 4 sprays of AMMO gave me great results that day.

Next I’m gonna try 4 sprays of MX301 but with A314 as my base…cause with A314 even if I OD…I don’t seem to give a f@#$ 🙂

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 4:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/7 "2010-06-19T04:53:31Z")

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> [@Jabez](#):
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> Wow this kinda scares me seeing as i just ordered some MX301. Do yo have to be careful with the MXs?

That it was an MX is pretty irrelevant imo. It’s that A314 is a status raising [pheromone](https://a314.com/), it gives off a very high value sorta vibe…most women find it attractive but only the most confident and together women find it approachable, in quite a few it creates a sense of “oh no way a guy like that would be interested in lil ole me”. Now MX347 is basically just a spray version of A314. now either it, or one of the other products I wore just happened to hit with this girl. And in her simplistic world view, she doesn’t see people in high value, low value terms. This is the kind of person that literally could talk to a high powered CEO and a busboy as if they were totally equal.

Something in the mix made her respond and very blatantly like me, which considering she was very obviously mentally handicapped made me feel a little uneasy, I didn’t want to be rude but I also don’t want to encourage her at the same time. But the intimidation factor that A314/MX347 is known for was simply non existent in this situation. I was actually a bit uncomfortable and not planning on mentioning it due to the awkwardness I felt the whole time but afterwards I thought it a very good point to bring up regarding how peoples perceptions of reality might effect how they respond to mones. I’ve seen A314 intimidate the hell out of people, 347 hits even harder being a spray, I’d estimate that each spray of MX347 is roughly equal to two drops of A314…at two sprays that’s like 4 drops of A314 which is a fairly potent dose and actually too high for a lot of people.

That much usually gets everyone but the most confident and self assured people to leave me alone unless I open them, and even then it’s some work smiling and being almost overly friendly in order to make them feel at ease. But not this girl.

Don’t be concerned that your purchase might become a magnet for the disabled simply because it’s an MX. If exposed to mones of ANY kind people will respond, it’s just that people who’s brains clearly work differently might respond in ways that aren’t very predictable.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 9:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/8 "2010-06-19T09:31:00Z")

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LOL Radman. I am glad you noticed this to. I reported on it a few times. At our local shoprite they employ the metally challanged to bag groceries and do simple jobs which is great. No matter what pheromone I am using I am like the pied piper. They start to follow me around talking away. They remember to because I can go back a week later and they will all be waving “Hi Nice lady” LOL Its so cute.

Its not attraction really its more of a trust and comfort feeling they are getting. Mentally retarded people dont hold back or try to mask what they are feeling like the rest of us. I think every person has a ego. Sometimes it rules them and sometimes it doesn’t but we all have one inside us. Mentally challanged people dont. They see things as they are and respond to them that way. They are actually excellent judges of character.

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> Wow this kinda scares me seeing as i just ordered some MX301. Do yo have to be careful with the MXs?

Its really not something to be scared of. [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) are going to effect everyone who comes in contact with them. They dont just send signals to the people your interested in. People do mask there impulses and feeling though some more then others. Just look at it as a indication that your pheromones are working.

Tish

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/9 "2010-06-19T15:34:48Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> LOL Radman. I am glad you noticed this to. I reported on it a few times. At our local shoprite they employee the metally challanged to bag groceries and do simple jobs which is great. No matter what pheromone I am using I am like the pied piper. They start to follow me around talking away. They remember to because I can go back a week later and they will all be waving “Hi Nice lady” LOL Its so cute.
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> Its not attraction really its more of a trust and comfort feeling they are getting. Mentally retarded people dont hold back or try to mask what they are feeling like the rest of us. I think every person has a ego. Sometimes it rules them and sometimes it doesn’t but we all have one inside us. Mentally challanged people dont. They see things as they are and respond to them that way. They are actually excellent judges of character.
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> Its really not something to be scared of. Pheromones are going to effect everyone who comes in contact with them. They dont just send signals to the people your interested in. People do mask there impulses and feeling though some more then others. Just look at it as a indication that your pheromones are working.
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> Tish

Perhaps the mx347 gave off a protective parental type of vine that made her comfortable?

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/10 "2010-06-19T20:37:53Z")

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Thanks. I ordered MX297 this morning. It was back in stock so I figured I would get some after all the good things that I have read about it so far. I kinda live in a ghetto area so it will take a bit for the pheromones to come in. I cannot wait for them to get here like the anticipation is killing. But I will survive hopefully.

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**Author:** ![TheFreakOfTheUniverse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@TheFreakOfTheUniverse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheFreakOfTheUniverse)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/11 "2010-06-19T22:52:12Z")

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I actually work with mentally challenged adolescents. While I’ve been literally molested on the job…Its always been mone-less. I don’t think they’re _necessarily_ more um, vulnerable in that sense. In a way yeah but…The chick was more than likely in general like that. A personal characteristic, not a mood or effected by the pheromones, _necessarily_.

I go to work with the pheromones on alot. When I first started at the place I work at (pheromone-less), the MR girls used to always hollah at me. Constantly…Insane flirtations real bad, staring, touching, it was really bad. My female coworkers would tell me “Hey, they have good taste”. This one girl kept slapping my ass and feeling up on me even when I’d yell at her, she’d just laugh in my face (and drool on me). I’d walk into a class and they’d be like yay we get the hot para. It was soooo very embarrassing. I’m like 23 now, back then I was 20 or so…Like, you don’t really think about it, but whats the difference between you and them? I looked the same as them..I was young, still am. Staff would confuse me with being a student too. Its not something you can visually see all the time, unless they have a syndrome with distinguishing characteristics, like rhets, fragile x, down syndrome or something similar along those lines. I once worked with a kid, socially competent enough you would never have known he was MR. He’d tell me he had a girlfriend and he was always getting pussy and shit. I believed him. I ran into him on the street one day with his boys, he told me “Don’t tell em I go to that school aight?”..I have no doubt he’d get ass. In fact, probably gets more pussy than I do. Only thing is his boys tell him he’s mad stupid, but who gives a shit, he had a ‘normal’ girlfriend.

At work I put on the a314, IH and a half spray of IJ (makes me not put up with the bullshit). Thats my work combo lately. Kids give me space. I haven’t been molested or flirted with by a student in a long time now. If anything, I’d say it makes them keep some distance. I still get the stares from the girls…But its look and don’t touch. Can’t be getting pawed up and groped by my students man..So, mones aren’t all bad in that situation. It keeps the girls at bay.

I met this girl once through a friend, took her out on dates and stuff. One day she mentioned to me after I told her I work in special ed, I was wearing IH and she told me she was retarded. I had no idea. And I work with kids like that..She wasn’t like drooly and shit, was a cutie too, she was just ‘slow’. I never thought she was sharpest tool, but I was surprised a lil. Really, I didn’t care. But I told her “Yeah, I’m different then most guys, but you probably shouldn’t be telling everyone that”. My boys joked on me, “taking your work home with ya are you?”. lol she liked the IO alot, made her real comfortable. I put on some TUTH and she was practically taking her clothes off. But who knows??

But in a way, you have to admire the MR…All the things we learn to hide, the things we think we shouldn’t or can’t say or do or even _THINK_..The things we look for, or think we should be looking for..Its all bullshit to them, just words and concepts, mostly meaningless. And if you ask me, they got it right. They live more ‘naturally’, sure they’re brainwashed by popculture and tv though, but at least they don’t feel socially awkward (alot of them), they’ll just talk to you about whatever they feel like, and why not? I have had better conversations with retarded people then alot of normal people. Normal people like to bullshit AND take themselves seriously (along with lying, hiding shit, manipulating and showing off). Thats not the way man..It isn’t. You shouldn’t do both at the same time. Bullshit and be less than serious, or be serious and talk something real. And even when people think they’re being smart or real, half the time they’re boring and uninteresting anyway. I liked the slow girl caused we’d talk about stupid shit alot…It didn’t have to be some verbal competition about impressing her or whatever.

Most of the things we all talk about is complete and utter nonsense. Its like the peacocks feathers. Most language we use is absolutely pointless and accomplishes nothing at all, just filling the air and the space between people, something to fill the time between sex and eating prolly, thats why speaking in commands is so effective. If you told this chick she was making you uncomfortable, she’d have probably stopped. When people think they’re being slick, talking to some girl or whatever, giving her hints they like her, shit, most of the time people do that they have no idea that they’re failing miserably. Girls do it too. They just do get that they’re not accomplishing what they think. Thats why some hot girls don’t have boyfriends and think they suck, they just don’t know no better. The direct approach is best. EVERYONE is fundamentally stupid. Language is inefficient..No one can know what you _really_ mean, subjectively anyway, and even if you explain it perfectly, people still mess it up. Like that preschool game of telephone…We all got it wrong together.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/12 "2010-06-19T23:15:49Z")

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I think you are being a bit harsh here. I once yelled at some people that were wearing A314 or IG, as if I were their boss. Just because you or anyone else have some mones on doesn’t mean that everyone, even if they don’t have mental developmental problems, will show you respect. Heck, I wouldn’t even give some dude wearing armani and driving a Ferrari any high respect, unless he can definitely prove to me that he is worth it. It CAN enhance or influence MANY people, but not all. Don’t forget that. Also, just because a person has A314 on and acts confident doesn’t mean he deserves all respect: it is not like he risked his life to save someone or build a hospital in Kenya or something

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**Author:** ![TheFreakOfTheUniverse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@TheFreakOfTheUniverse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheFreakOfTheUniverse)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/13 "2010-06-19T23:49:37Z")

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> [@CoolKatDC](#):
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> I think you are being a bit harsh here. I once yelled at some people that were wearing A314 or IG, as if I were their boss. Just because you or anyone else have some mones on doesn’t mean that everyone, even if they don’t have mental developmental problems, will show you respect. Heck, I wouldn’t even give some dude wearing armani and driving a Ferrari any high respect, unless he can definitely prove to me that he is worth it. It CAN enhance or influence MANY people, but not all. Don’t forget that. Also, just because a person has A314 on and acts confident doesn’t mean he deserves all respect: it is not like he risked his life to save someone or build a hospital in Kenya or something

You don’t have to yell at people to command them around…You can be the nicest person in the world and do it, and it doesn’t have to have anything to do with a314. Tell them what to think, what to feel, what to do. I personally think its the secret of life…The secret is you don’t HAVE to feel bad about telling people what to do, or asking for help or for them to do things for you without giving anything back, people LIKE that. People are basically big children, looking for parents. They say children get anxious with too much freedom, they crave boundaries, adults are no different, and when there aren’t any we’ll basically create them. You see it all over society and in various symbolic ways. They say that in most successful relationships, both parties act out pseudo-parental roles with each other. Obviously you can’t always punish your gf by putting her in time out or taking away her tv time, adults do it in different ways, like withholding sex, or giving the cold shoulder, but spankings aren’t always all bad..lol if I had a gf I probably would put her in time out if she was being bad. I’ve done it to my gf’s before…It works at least temporarily. And you gotta reward the good behaviors too. Offering praise is very effective, adults included. Positive reinforcement. Your never too old for that. No one is…Thats my point. We’re all together not much better then children or mentally handicapped people. The same rules apply..no different.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/14 "2010-06-20T21:50:52Z")

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Well, I was just trying to say that mones are okay, but they are not magic. Come on. For example, just because some skinny college kid puts on 50 drops of A314 and comes up to intimidate me, do you think I would back down? I would laugh at him. I would tell him to go freaking dig some trenches in Iraq or Afghanistan and trying to survive with no real food or women for awhile.  
Just because some average some average salary man with an Armani suit has on TUTH + A314, would I show him some respect and try to look up to him? Of course, not. Unless, he proves to me why, I see no reason I would. I would respect him, since I respect and care about every human being. We all deserve respect and love, you know 😉  
Also, if I see some hot, sexy girl, regardless what she is wearing and how godly she looks and smells, I would go try to go hit on her, if I have the chance. I hope the girl wouldn’t think that I am mentally challenged because I ignored her respect mone like [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) A and tried to pick her up to have sex with her 🙄

If it is someone renown like Kobe Bryant, Johnny Depp, or Obama, well, then it would be different, regardless of what they wear. Heck, even if they wear some regular I love LA T-shirt with 50 year-old faded shorts, I would still show them some admiration, because I TRULY know who they are.

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/15 "2010-06-20T22:17:45Z")

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> [@CoolKatDC](#):
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> I think you are being a bit harsh here. I once yelled at some people that were wearing A314 or IG, as if I were their boss. Just because you or anyone else have some mones on doesn’t mean that everyone, even if they don’t have mental developmental problems, will show you respect. Heck, I wouldn’t even give some dude wearing armani and driving a Ferrari any high respect, unless he can definitely prove to me that he is worth it. It CAN enhance or influence MANY people, but not all. Don’t forget that. Also, just because a person has A314 on and acts confident doesn’t mean he deserves all respect: it is not like he risked his life to save someone or build a hospital in Kenya or something

No not everyone will, but the extreme reaction I got from her coupled with the fact that she singled me out among a bus load of people tells me the mones DID effect her. She seemed immediately comfortable and attracted at the same time, now more often than not if I’m getting attraction from mones and A314 is part of my mix I usually get some degree of intimidation as well…the status vibe of A314 is very effective. Couple it with having a job that requires a suit and tie and I’ll get looks but usually not much else unless I initiate it. She was sitting quiet when I boarded the bus and within a few seconds of my sitting down she started talking and simply would not stop and yes the conversation made me feel a bit uncomfortable given the direction she was taking it. She’s not the first mentally challenged person I’ve come across so I do have some experience in how open they can be.

As for your ability to resist the effects of pheromones regardless of whether worn by a skinny college kid or an average salary guy in an Armani suit (I don’t know many average salary guys that can afford Armani but whatever)…well I’m sure you’d like to think so but I can speak from experience, there are people that hold status and have an aura about them that defies physical appearance. First off A314 isn’t a physical intimidation product so how skinny the college kid is is irrelevant I’ve met men that are short, fat, balding and for all sakes and purposes SHOULD cower in fear if I shot them a dirty look, but they had something about them I couldn’t quite put my finger on, they don’t need to raise their voices…they just start talking in a normal tone and any conversations going on around stop one by one as people tune their focus on them. Was it their natural mone signature? pure charisma?, a simple matter of confidence and a strong frame…maybe all, maybe none of those things but they had “it”. So I’m very impressed that you have the strength to stay brave in the face of a skinny kid on A314…I’m still trying to figure out what that has to do with the original topic however.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/16 "2010-06-20T22:35:40Z")

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Well, some females could say the same thing about some guys 🙄  
For instance, if I were to see a really gorgeous, sexy woman, of course I would try to pursue her, if I could. If she is sitting alone in a bus, I would go sit next to and try to talk to her. I hope she doesn’t think I am mentally retarded, if she has on a female equivalent of A314, yet I keep trying to sexually seduce or hook-up with her 🙄 I hope she doesn’t think she is much higher value than me, and think I have no boundaries? I hope she doesn’t think any guy, especially someone with no CELEBRITY status like me, have a right to see her sexually and want to sleep with her.

Plus, who that f\*\*K is she to even have the right to think that way, right? I just think it is preposterous how some people think wearing HIGH-VALUE or SUPER RESPECT pheromones should separate them from average joes. I see this type of BS all the time, even those that never uses mones. They think they are superior and deserve more respect than others. Jsut because they drive BMW or Mesratti, or own 2 million dollar homes, we avg folks should put our heads down and look upto them; and only when they grant us some permission??? No men or women should be treated less. No men or women should even feel less.  
Well, I guess if one earned his way into being a billionaire, nobel prize winner, celebrity or white house personnel, he does have some argument. (ie Bill Gates)

Anyways, we human beings are all equal in some ways anyway. Well, there is a place and order based on reincarnation, previous lives, and Karma, but I am not going to get into that… No one knows where we rank in terms of development anyway.

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/17 "2010-06-20T22:52:36Z")

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So you have a hard time differentiating between a person that’s mentally retarded and somebody that isn’t? Because and maybe it’s just your choice of wording but it sounds like you’re implying that my observation that she was retarded is based off the effects and or lack thereof to the mones I’m wearing. You’re confusing the cause and effect relationship. I’m not assuming a person is mentally challenged because of their response to mones, I observe the response of the mones on a person I can plainly tell is mentally challenged and make mental note of how their response differs.

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**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/18 "2010-06-20T23:23:28Z")

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_Goes to buy rad and coolkat a happy meal_ 😃

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/19 "2010-06-20T23:24:44Z")

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okay, my bad. I guess I misunderstood what you wrote. Yea, I can spot and tell someone who is a bit off mentally, such as a person with Down Syndrome. It is an interesting find… I guess, since some parts of their brain circuits are messed up, their inhibition and decision making levels are sub-par compare to “normal” people. Also, you see this type of thing frequently with elderly with dementia or people with frontal-temporal lesions.

I hardly use mones unless there is a cute girl I want to target, so I can’t tell ya how mones affect people with less-than stellar intelligence 😉

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-do-not-use-mones-around-the-mentally-challenged/39396/20 "2010-06-22T19:20:33Z")

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> [@TheFreakOfTheUniverse](#):
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> At work I put on the a314, IH and a half spray of IJ (makes me not put up with the bullshit). Thats my work combo lately. Kids give me space. I haven’t been molested or flirted with by a student in a long time now. If anything, I’d say it makes them keep some distance. I still get the stares from the girls…But its look and don’t touch. Can’t be getting pawed up and groped by my students man..So, mones aren’t all bad in that situation. It keeps the girls at bay.

and the “Kids” probably do what you say too, because you are a “person of power.”

My biggest hits have been with social pheros (IO, IS, IH and CTTM2) and people of lower cognitive abilities. {you know the people who will talk to anyone about anything or what is on their mind and won’t leave you alone}

I struggled with a coworker who thought he was a big bad butt, and wanted to run me off for job security. (even though I was with the company twice as long as he has been)  
A314, IJ and IH put a screaming halt to that. I also noticed that with too much IH and my boss was calling me on the intercom vs talking to me face to face.  
so I went to using CTTM2 vs IH, IO or combined IO and IH. Found that CTTM2 works similar but offers a more open conversation and less “Chatter” conversation than IO, and less of the hard honesty of IH. a little chatter type gossip is useful.

A314 or IJ alone and people don’t even say hi when they pass you in the hall.

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