# OK, so two techniques I've been thinking of recently, **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 26, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-so-two-techniques-ive-been-thinking-of-recently/18302 "2008-08-26T20:58:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Spaz\_Munky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@Spaz\_Munky](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spaz_Munky)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-so-two-techniques-ive-been-thinking-of-recently/18302/1 "2008-08-26T20:58:50Z")
1. Using the “cologne opener” - spray any combinations of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) onto your wrists (for instance AMMO, IO or IFM) and, just to start conversation, ask her which wrist smells the best: her vote needn’t be relevant, its simply a ploy to get her to intake the pheromones from an early stage…It seems like it would work well with IO in particular 2. Using Kino - Again, spray whatever colognes you desire on your wrist, but while talking to her, just take any chance to touch her neck, face, hair etc. It’s important to make physical contact where possible and you might as well kill two birds with one stone Opinions? ---
**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-so-two-techniques-ive-been-thinking-of-recently/18302/2 "2008-08-26T21:04:38Z")
The cologne opener seems to have gotten results for a number of people in other posts. One problem could arise if the female belongs to the third of society to which androstenone smells like urine, if you use [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) or Instant Jerk, and she gets a nose full of cat pee smell. In the majority of cases, however, that wouldn’t happen, and it seems like an effective method of getting them exposed to the pheromones early and powerfully. I don’t have much experience with kino, but getting the pheromones near her face would definitely increase intake, so I don’t see why that wouldn’t work. Does anyone know of any books with good kino methods or descriptions, possibly in torrent form? ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-so-two-techniques-ive-been-thinking-of-recently/18302/3 "2008-08-26T21:13:13Z")
lol I’d be scared to try it incase shes heard it before of someone other than that it sounds like a great idea. Does none really smell like cat piss? I’ve had girls comment on how good I smell when wearing ammo and the ammo test pack (game scented) I don’t know if they genuinly like the smell, subconciouslly they are drawn to the pheromones or a bit of both. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-so-two-techniques-ive-been-thinking-of-recently/18302/4 "2008-08-26T21:26:56Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t have much experience with kino, but getting the pheromones near her face would definitely increase intake, so I don’t see why that wouldn’t work. Does anyone know of any books with good kino methods or descriptions, possibly in torrent form? There’s not much to it really. It’s all about making it look and feel natural so don’t take it as gospel or it may look robotic and akward. just be comfortable touching her and her touching you and it will natrually increase if theres any attraction and comfort. > **[directnaturalgame.com — 524 referring domains | ED.com](https://expireddomains.com/domain/directnaturalgame.com?utm_source=redi)** > > directnaturalgame.com is a seasoned .com domain (3 years) hitting the marketplace listing. Listed at $195 with money-back guarantee. ---
**Author:** ![Spaz\_Munky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@Spaz\_Munky](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spaz_Munky)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-so-two-techniques-ive-been-thinking-of-recently/18302/5 "2008-08-26T21:27:35Z")
> [@Vespero](#): > > I don’t have much experience with kino, but getting the pheromones near her face would definitely increase intake, so I don’t see why that wouldn’t work. Does anyone know of any books with good kino methods or descriptions, possibly in torrent form? “The Game” by Neil Strauss is a fantastic read for pick-up techniques Also you can do some online research of all this stuff at [Fast Seduction 101: Art of Pick-up and Seduction](http://www.fastseduction.com) Hope that helps ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-so-two-techniques-ive-been-thinking-of-recently/18302/6 "2008-08-26T21:32:52Z")
The game is a good book, it doesn’t really teach you that much about technique but you pick a bit up along the way and it’s an enjoyable story. It really serves as an introduction to all the lingo termanolagy used. I recommend reading the game first then the mystery method, it’ll make a lot more sense if you’ve read the game first. > **[The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed: Amazon.co.uk: Mystery:...](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mystery-Method-Erik-von-Markovik/dp/0312360118)** > > Buy The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed Illustrated by Mystery (ISBN: 9780312360115) from Amazon's Book Store. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-so-two-techniques-ive-been-thinking-of-recently/18302/7 "2008-08-27T02:19:43Z")
Cologne opener might work, but as someone else might have tried it on her. I talk with my hands and have been starting to place some pheromones only on my arms. I can wave my arms around their face, head, all around them, and all the while I can be telling an exciting, funny story. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![chads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@chads](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chads)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-so-two-techniques-ive-been-thinking-of-recently/18302/8 "2008-08-27T16:46:39Z")
Maybe you could rub your application points on her wrist or hand during kino so every time she raises her hand near her face she will smell it.