# Okay, Even World’s Biggest Skeptic is Convinced **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 3, 2009, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456 "2009-01-03T03:05:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Smellboy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smellboy/32/1747_2.png) [@Smellboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellboy)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/1 "2009-01-03T03:05:57Z")
Hey, everyone. I’m still new to the forum; just started “using” a couple months ago. I could have posted some field reports earlier, except…well, I’m the world’s biggest skeptic. Yeah, I’m one of those people who wouldn’t even believe in gravity if it wasn’t demonstrated to me a few dozen times. So the first time I wore pheromones and got an unusual response, I figured it was a coincidence. Also the second time. Also the third. Also the… Well, you get the picture. I’m a little slow. At any rate, I can no longer avoid the conclusion that **something** is clearly going on. Not always what I want and not always in the way I want, but clearly something is happening. I’ve worn various scents in various combinations at various social gatherings over the past couple months and among the responses I’ve received: · An attractive woman came up to me at a party, struck up a conversation, and asked me for my phone number. I can count on one hand the number of times that’s happened to me in my life. · A woman I hadn’t even spoken to started touching my arm, suddenly realized what she was doing, and walked away. · A woman talked to me – or, more accurately, **at** me – pretty much non-stop for about an hour. I would have given anything to get her to stop or at least to slow down for five minutes. Later she told me that she was just so flustered around me, she didn’t know what to do. · Another woman acted in a similar strange fashion around me. She later told me it was because she felt “tumesced.” (In other words, for those without a thesaurus, she was turned on.) · A couple of women actually seemed to have swooned when I was standing near them. · And the wildest one: At a party where nude hot tubbing was going on, a woman who had recently dumped me got out of the hot tub, came into the living room where I was sitting, and proceeded to get dressed three feet in front of me. And I kept thinking, “Why is she doing that? Why doesn’t she go into one of the bathrooms or bedrooms to get dressed instead of displaying herself to me like that?” Duh. As I said, I’m a little slow. Okay, so that’s all cool. But I’ve also experienced some unexpected results and challenges. I’m wondering if these are typical: · When I wear Ammo, **other men** seem to be particularly friendly towards me. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Just not the effect for which I was hoping. · Some women seem to be overreacting while others don’t respond at all. In particular, older women seem to be responding to Ammo a lot more than younger ones. · The one time I wore Instant Shine, it actually seemed to **repel** younger women. · The few times I’ve worn Turn Up the Heat (when I was getting together one-on-one with women with whom I thought I might be sexual), it didn’t seem to have any effect at all. · The most frustrating thing is that, while I’m getting more women’s phone numbers than usual, they don’t seem to be returning my calls. If only there was a way to leave a phone message in “smell-o-rama.” The combination I’ve mostly been using is 1 shot of Ammo 2x (which was recommended to me because I’m over forty) to each wrist and behind each ear. Then I put dabs of Athena 10x in each of those spots as well. (I do this because Athena is a product that mixes with one’s regular cologne and I like the smell of that more than any of the [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/).) Based on what I’ve written here, I’d love to hear any advice that anyone can offer. Perhaps I’m not wearing the products in the best combinations or amounts? Thanks in advance! ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/2 "2009-01-03T03:22:16Z")
> [@Smellboy](#): > > Hey, everyone. I’m still new to the forum; just started “using” a couple months ago. I could have posted some field reports earlier, except…well, I’m the world’s biggest skeptic. Yeah, I’m one of those people who wouldn’t even believe in gravity if it wasn’t demonstrated to me a few dozen times. So the first time I wore pheromones and got an unusual response, I figured it was a coincidence. Also the second time. Also the third. Also the… Well, you get the picture. I’m a little slow. > > At any rate, I can no longer avoid the conclusion that **something** is clearly going on. Not always what I want and not always in the way I want, but clearly something is happening. I’ve worn various scents in various combinations at various social gatherings over the past couple months and among the responses I’ve received: > · An attractive woman came up to me at a party, struck up a conversation, and asked me for my phone number. I can count on one hand the number of times that’s happened to me in my life. > · A woman I hadn’t even spoken to started touching my arm, suddenly realized what she was doing, and walked away. > · A woman talked to me – or, more accurately, **at** me – pretty much non-stop for about an hour. I would have given anything to get her to stop or at least to slow down for five minutes. Later she told me that she was just so flustered around me, she didn’t know what to do. > · Another woman acted in a similar strange fashion around me. She later told me it was because she felt “tumesced.” (In other words, for those without a thesaurus, she was turned on.) > · A couple of women actually seemed to have swooned when I was standing near them. > · And the wildest one: At a party where nude hot tubbing was going on, a woman who had recently dumped me got out of the hot tub, came into the living room where I was sitting, and proceeded to get dressed three feet in front of me. And I kept thinking, “Why is she doing that? Why doesn’t she go into one of the bathrooms or bedrooms to get dressed instead of displaying herself to me like that?” Duh. As I said, I’m a little slow. > > Okay, so that’s all cool. But I’ve also experienced some unexpected results and challenges. I’m wondering if these are typical: > · When I wear Ammo, **other men** seem to be particularly friendly towards me. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Just not the effect for which I was hoping. > · Some women seem to be overreacting while others don’t respond at all. In particular, older women seem to be responding to Ammo a lot more than younger ones. > · The one time I wore Instant Shine, it actually seemed to **repel** younger women. > · The few times I’ve worn Turn Up the Heat (when I was getting together one-on-one with women with whom I thought I might be sexual), it didn’t seem to have any effect at all. > · The most frustrating thing is that, while I’m getting more women’s phone numbers than usual, they don’t seem to be returning my calls. If only there was a way to leave a phone message in “smell-o-rama.” > > The combination I’ve mostly been using is 1 shot of Ammo 2x (which was recommended to me because I’m over forty) to each wrist and behind each ear. Then I put dabs of Athena 10x in each of those spots as well. (I do this because Athena is a product that mixes with one’s regular cologne and I like the smell of that more than any of the pheromone products.) > > Based on what I’ve written here, I’d love to hear any advice that anyone can offer. Perhaps I’m not wearing the products in the best combinations or amounts? > > Thanks in advance! that was one of the clearest, to the point reports i have ever heard on this forum. bravo. honestly, any advice would be theory and the best advice is to continue to take note of the reactions and experiment with the doses. your signature isnt the advice-givers signature 😉 from what i have heard, getting a positive reaction from the gals while still having a positive reaction from the guys sounds like a great balance. alot of men go for the “intimidation” effect from the men, but you’ll notice that when you apply the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) that induce intimidation or negativity, you also tend to limit your attention from the women in certain age brackets. maybe someone else will be clearer in this regard than i 😛 ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/3 "2009-01-03T05:53:20Z")
> [@Smellboy](#): > > At a party where nude hot tubbing was going on… you get invited to some awesome-sounding parties. 🙂 were you actively seeking out opportunities before your belief kicked in or did you sort of lay back and wait to see what happened? if you were more of the latter, now’s a great time to start making things happen and possibly experience greater results. the physical proof is there; it’s just a simple mental switch to get the wheels rolling. the biggest thing is now that you’re convinced, it’s time to find your perfect mix. you can find some good examples on here about how to test and analyze your pheros. if you can give us a background of how you approach women, perhaps some of the older guys on here can chime in with some advice or tips. ---
**Author:** ![Stryker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stryker/32/751_2.png) [@Stryker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stryker)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/4 "2009-01-03T06:18:31Z")
I’ve also noticed that men seem to be friendlier to me as well when I am wearing AMMO. No comment on your observation with IS though. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 10:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/5 "2009-01-03T10:49:10Z")
> [@Smellboy](#): > > Hey, everyone. I’m still new to the forum; just started “using” a couple months ago. I could have posted some field reports earlier, except…well, I’m the world’s biggest skeptic. Yeah, I’m one of those people who wouldn’t even believe in gravity if it wasn’t demonstrated to me a few dozen times. So the first time I wore pheromones and got an unusual response, I figured it was a coincidence. Also the second time. Also the third. Also the… Well, you get the picture. I’m a little slow. > > At any rate, I can no longer avoid the conclusion that **something** is clearly going on. Not always what I want and not always in the way I want, but clearly something is happening. I’ve worn various scents in various combinations at various social gatherings over the past couple months and among the responses I’ve received: > · An attractive woman came up to me at a party, struck up a conversation, and asked me for my phone number. I can count on one hand the number of times that’s happened to me in my life. > · A woman I hadn’t even spoken to started touching my arm, suddenly realized what she was doing, and walked away. > · A woman talked to me – or, more accurately, **at** me – pretty much non-stop for about an hour. I would have given anything to get her to stop or at least to slow down for five minutes. Later she told me that she was just so flustered around me, she didn’t know what to do. > · Another woman acted in a similar strange fashion around me. She later told me it was because she felt “tumesced.” (In other words, for those without a thesaurus, she was turned on.) > · A couple of women actually seemed to have swooned when I was standing near them. > · And the wildest one: At a party where nude hot tubbing was going on, a woman who had recently dumped me got out of the hot tub, came into the living room where I was sitting, and proceeded to get dressed three feet in front of me. And I kept thinking, “Why is she doing that? Why doesn’t she go into one of the bathrooms or bedrooms to get dressed instead of displaying herself to me like that?” Duh. As I said, I’m a little slow. > > Okay, so that’s all cool. But I’ve also experienced some unexpected results and challenges. I’m wondering if these are typical: > · When I wear Ammo, **other men** seem to be particularly friendly towards me. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Just not the effect for which I was hoping. > · Some women seem to be overreacting while others don’t respond at all. In particular, older women seem to be responding to Ammo a lot more than younger ones. > · The one time I wore Instant Shine, it actually seemed to **repel** younger women. > · The few times I’ve worn Turn Up the Heat (when I was getting together one-on-one with women with whom I thought I might be sexual), it didn’t seem to have any effect at all. > · The most frustrating thing is that, while I’m getting more women’s phone numbers than usual, they don’t seem to be returning my calls. If only there was a way to leave a phone message in “smell-o-rama.” > > The combination I’ve mostly been using is 1 shot of Ammo 2x (which was recommended to me because I’m over forty) to each wrist and behind each ear. Then I put dabs of Athena 10x in each of those spots as well. (I do this because Athena is a product that mixes with one’s regular cologne and I like the smell of that more than any of the pheromone products.) > > Based on what I’ve written here, I’d love to hear any advice that anyone can offer. Perhaps I’m not wearing the products in the best combinations or amounts? > > Thanks in advance! Great post! Now what were you wearing each time you got these effects? How long were you around them? At what distance? Details, man! More details! Few things I wanted to comment on… “Tumesced” isn’t just turned on. It’s a state of advanced and heightened arousal in which the woman’s whole pelvic area swells and she is at her most ready to breed. I sure as hell want to know the details on THAT mix! Using [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) once doesn’t give you enough “data points” to know what is what, and you should know that, Mister Skeptic. 🙂 How much turn up the heat did you wear, and with what, and how old were the women, and how long were they exposed, and and and… come on, man! Details! How can we help without knowing what’s what? And getting phone numbers but no return calls means you’re probably using too much androstenone. This causes arousal, and when it is not acted upon IMMEDIATELY, she later has the ASD kick in, you go bye-bye and that’s the end of that. Solution: Social mones and silver tongue; or, close her that very night. I suggest the former. More details. ---
**Author:** ![Smellboy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smellboy/32/1747_2.png) [@Smellboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellboy)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/6 "2009-01-03T17:05:32Z")
Hey, Catlord17, \> “Tumesced” isn’t just turned on. It’s a state of advanced and heightened arousal in which the woman’s whole pelvic area swells and she is at her most ready to breed. I sure as hell want to know the details on THAT mix! Right. I was just trying to sum up the meaning of the word succinctly for those who weren’t familiar with it. On that occasion, I was wearing my usual mix of Ammo 2x and Athena 10x. It was at a party and I don’t know how long the woman described had been sniffing at me. I really didn’t notice her until she came up and starting talking to me. \> Using [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) once doesn’t give you enough “data points” to know what is what, and you should know that, Mister Skeptic. 🙂 Agreed. The reaction I got the first time I wore it has just made me a little “gun shy” about using it again. But I’m going to be taking some meetings in Hollywood sometime in the next month or so. Hollywood is notoriously ageist, so I plan on experimenting a lot with IS while I’m there. \> How much turn up the heat did you wear, and with what, and how old were the women, and how long were they exposed, and and and… come on, man! Details! How can we help without knowing what’s what? One shot of TUTH on each wrist, one shot of Ammo 2x behind each ear, then a splash of Athena 10x on each of those spots. Women ranged in age from thirties to fifties. In all cases, we were together in close proximity for several hours, including having dinner together. I’ve since found at least one post on this forum saying that wearing Ammo and TUTH at the same time is overkill, so that might be part of the problem. \> And getting phone numbers but no return calls means you’re probably using too much androstenone. This causes arousal, and when it is not acted upon IMMEDIATELY, she later has the ASD kick in, you go bye-bye and that’s the end of that. Yup, that’s quite possible. I’m wondering if putting the Athena 10x in the mix is pushing it over the top. I wish I just liked the smell of the other pheromones products better. Thanks again for any advice. ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/7 "2009-01-03T17:06:55Z")
Yeah, I think the drawback of pheromones is that they are kind of like drugs if you know what I mean. People around us dont seem to realize what they are doing because they are under the influence of the pheros. So when the effects are gone their feelings toward us may not be the same. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/8 "2009-01-03T17:45:19Z")
> [@Stryker](#): > > I’ve also noticed that men seem to be friendlier to me as well when I am wearing AMMO. No comment on your observation with IS though. Yeah me too. Buffered none gets respect from guys. Not the same amount of respect you get from rone but then again theres some of that in ammo too. MX275 which was part of the ammo test pack got me more respect from guys also. Smellboy, great report. ---
**Author:** ![Smellboy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smellboy/32/1747_2.png) [@Smellboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellboy)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/9 "2009-01-03T21:16:26Z")
Hey, Jayarea, Thanks for the tip. I can definitely see how using the products leads to a positive “feedback loop.” When I’m using them I feel more confident, therefore I approach more women, therefore I experience more successes, therefore I keep using the products, etc. I’m sure at least some of the benefits of pheromones are just psychological – the sense of confidence one has when using them. In my still limited experience, I’d guess the benefits are probably somewhere around 80% physical and 20% psychological. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/10 "2009-01-04T00:08:19Z")
Thanks for starting out with a larger font, Smellboy. My eyes and I are over forty also. What I have noticed on this forum is that younger men really like Ammo and older men really like A314. You didn’t mention it so let me recommend you give a couple of drops of A314 a try, if you haven’t done that yet. I suspect it is _much_ more your style than you might suspect. It may add a sexyness and desirability to your authority. Most managers are just stuffed shirts and assholes. A314 will make you a _real man_ who deserves to be a leader. I used Athena 10x for years. It works and I like it. Compared to the things I’ve gotten from SmartMones, though, it is pretty weak. I have some that I haven’t used for a long time. I just tend to forget about it anymore. I doubt that it would be the phero responsible for putting things over the top. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Honesty are also good social products. Along with Instant Shine (or TAA oil which I prefer – TAA being the major phero in IS), they will help breakdown barriers women make of social status from your job or from A314 or too much androstenone. ---
**Author:** ![Smellboy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smellboy/32/1747_2.png) [@Smellboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellboy)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/11 "2009-01-04T01:34:40Z")
Thanks, Warren. It just so happens that this morning I placed my first order for A314, Instant Honesty, and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). ---
**Author:** ![Sethy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sethy/32/1625_2.png) [@Sethy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sethy)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/12 "2009-01-06T04:06:54Z")
TOTAL win sir. Im waiting on my order right now, and I got ALL of the different mixes and such. Im so glad I did reading this. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Smellboy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smellboy/32/1747_2.png) [@Smellboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellboy)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/13 "2009-01-06T17:24:30Z")
Actually, now that I’ve ordered the A314, I realize I’ll probably never use it. The more I read about it, the more I realize it isn’t the right product for me at all. I’ve never had a problem getting respect. I have a problem with people seeing me as unapproachable. I shouldn’t be using A314, I should be using [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), if that product actually works. I tried to change my order with Androtics Direct, but unfortunately no one answers their 800 number. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/14 "2009-01-06T18:52:32Z")
> [@Smellboy](#): > > I have lots of women friends and have never had a problem connecting with women on a platonic level or getting them to open up to me. However, I have always had difficulty getting the relationship beyond that. I’m perceived by women as a “nice guy” whom they trust and “like as a friend.” Very rarely am I able to get out of the “friend zone,” which is why I’m still unmarried at my age. Sorry to be harsh, dude, but you’ve _always_ had a problem getting respect. No matter what they tell you, the friend zone ain’t respect. It’s definitely not the kind of respect that you want from attractive women. A314 will give you a taste of that kind of respect. Then you can experiment with [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Honesty, Instant Shine, etc to determine which socials are best for allowing the girls you want to get closer to you. ---
**Author:** ![Smellboy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smellboy/32/1747_2.png) [@Smellboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellboy)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/15 "2009-01-06T20:38:21Z")
Warren, I appreciate your frank feedback. However, I think we may be talking about two different kinds of respect here. Based on what I’ve been reading about A314, it mostly helps men get respect in a professional capacity, which is very different than generating sexual interest. There’s a popular belief that women are automatically attracted to any man whom they perceive as successful, but in my experience this is overstated. I’ve known many men who were very well respected in the business and entertainment communities, but whose love loves were a disaster. I haven’t read anywhere that A314 actually increases one’s attractiveness to women. If your experience with this product is different than what I’ve been reading, I’d very much like to know. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![wiseowlk12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@wiseowlk12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wiseowlk12)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/16 "2009-01-06T21:16:11Z")
Let me chime in here…A314 is more thant just respect, is gives off an aura of being an Alpha male, someone who knows what he wants and goes for it…someone whom people follow. There seems two kinds of respect you guys are talking about here…work/career related respect and social environmental respect. A314 will gives off the Alpha social respect without you even opening up your mouth and letting people know about your career status. Once it’s there in their heads it is up to you to carry that perception. I on the other hand prefer Instant Gentlmen, it’s more social and less intimidating and can be mixed better with other pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![Smellboy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smellboy/32/1747_2.png) [@Smellboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellboy)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/17 "2009-01-06T21:41:41Z")
Thanks for your input, Wiseowl, Actually, the distinction I’m trying to make is even more specific than that – not only is there a difference between work/career respect and social respect, but there’s also difference between social respect and sexual desirability. Even in a social context, I’m the kind of person who others – both men and women – come to for advice. But that doesn’t mean the women are sexually attracted to me. To be completely blunt, trust and respect don’t get you laid. In fact, in my experience, they frequently work against you. What most women seem to want is the dangerous “bad boy,” not the respectable gentleman. ---
**Author:** ![Sethy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sethy/32/1625_2.png) [@Sethy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sethy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/18 "2009-01-07T03:47:10Z")
Lol, and the distinction ends HERE. Try them all, and see what works for you.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Smellboy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smellboy/32/1747_2.png) [@Smellboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellboy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/19 "2009-01-07T04:15:11Z")
Yeah, thanks, Sethy. That’s probably the best advice. As long as I’ve already paid for it, I might as well try the A314 for a few weeks and see what happens. If it actually makes it more difficult to connect with women instead of easier, I’ll just toss it. At least I like the smell of the stuff, which is more than I can say for the other Andriotics Direct products I’ve tried. ---
**Author:** ![Sethy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sethy/32/1625_2.png) [@Sethy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sethy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 5:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456/20 "2009-01-07T05:00:48Z")
Nothing makes anything difficult to connect with women but you. NOTHING, This stuff just works to ENHANCE whats already there. LET IT OUT MAN!!! LET IT OUT. Also this stuff really works to let you shine, trust me on that. I wont mention what stuff worked for me, but it really worked on my attitude and all that stuff. NOW MY SWAGGER IS PERMANENT. In this world all you really have is you. Don’t be afraid to be yourself and not care what anything thinks. You’re you and that’s all there is to it. By the way, if you feel the need to throw the stuff out. SEND ME A PM, will pay for shipping. :] [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-even-world-s-biggest-skeptic-is-convinced/24456.md?page=2)