# Okay...new to this stuff, my first post. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 2, 2008, 4:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-new-to-this-stuff-my-first-post/20696 "2008-10-02T04:47:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Therickaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@Therickaman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Therickaman)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 4:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-new-to-this-stuff-my-first-post/20696/1 "2008-10-02T04:47:52Z")
Hello, So…I’ve been reading about this stuff for about a year. I’m pretty skeptical, but I figured this would help to get over my shyness around chicks. It’s funny, around the guys…I have a bubbly personality. Around chicks, the opposite. So, I read on one of the posts initiating conversation being easier with certain combos. I hope this is correct. This is what I bought: Instant openness [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) Turn up the heat All at regular strength. I’m a noob, at this stuff…so, please recommend how to use this stuff. I’m quite confused about Instant Shine, is it meant to affect me? i.e. Put it on my neck/ears? All I really want to do, is somehow take the edge off of aproaching chicks. And if I do approach chicks, I want them to know why I’m trying to start conversation, hence the Turn up the Heat. I figured I’d start up with one spray of openness to the wrists. Instant Shine to the neck, and Turn up the heat to the back of the neck. All in one spray. Is this feasible, for what I’m trying to do? Like said, I’m very skeptical, so this experiment will be interesting. Thanks, Rick ---
**Author:** ![tfer15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfer15/32/711_2.png) [@tfer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfer15)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 4:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-new-to-this-stuff-my-first-post/20696/2 "2008-10-02T04:53:46Z")
i would say get two books. Mystery Method The Difinitive Book of Body Language two of the greatest books ever written. both put together equals ultimate pwnage. trust me. then you get either instant gentleman or a314 and think your hot shit and dont give a shit what other girls think when you talk to them. then you can be good at talking to them. hope it helps ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-new-to-this-stuff-my-first-post/20696/3 "2008-10-02T06:07:52Z")
hey man, i don’t think those pheros are going to take the edge off of approaching girls, that is almost entirely up to you. they may however give you a new feeling of confidence, which could make it easier for you to feel comfortable approaching. _**“All at regular strength. I’m a noob, at this stuff…so, please recommend how to use this stuff. I’m quite confused about [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), is it meant to affect me? i.e. Put it on my neck/ears?”**_ instant shine can affect each of you, you’ll probably find it most immediately effective the closer you spray it to your own nose. it doesn’t have much of a life span though so it is the kind of product you want to spray immediately prior to contact. _**“I figured I’d start up with one spray of openness to the wrists. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to the neck, and [Turn up the heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) to the back of the neck. All in one spray. Is this feasible, for what I’m trying to do?”**_ how old are you Rick? just want to mention that you might qualify yourself for a 15 dollar gift certificate if you make a post in the introductions forum and provide some background information about yourself, this in turn makes it easier for the rest of us to help answer your questions. be careful with TUTH. both of the other phero products you have will help mitigate the caveman style approach with TUTH, but you have to be careful. if i were going to wear those three, i would probably put the IO in my hair, IS all over my neck and TUTH on my chest, then spray some axe or equivalent everywhere. everyone approaches this a little differently though. ---
**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-new-to-this-stuff-my-first-post/20696/4 "2008-10-02T06:28:22Z")
as far as instant shine goes, for me, it only has a self effect. i coudl’ve not used a higher dose but i havent really noticed a change in other people’s behavior. however, i was told by many many people that it works on them great though, so u shoudl give it a shot 🙂 instant openess is a great social product also. i def. noticed increased amount of conversation with this mix gluck! ---
**Author:** ![SoulCreator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soulcreator/32/236_2.png) [@SoulCreator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SoulCreator)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 1:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-new-to-this-stuff-my-first-post/20696/5 "2008-10-02T13:46:53Z")
Yeah I completely agree with Josef; unfortunately wearing [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) won’t make girls approach you, and it won’t necessarily make the approach any easier. But once your already in there they can help to make things run a lot smoother. You ever have one of those moments where things just seem to go right… you know when your talking to a girl and she seems to be digging you, and things are going great, but your not quite sure why. That’s what getting a hit while wearing pheromones is like, only you know why things are going so smoothly. Pheromones don’t really make things happen, but when things are happening they tend to lubricate the works.