# Okay so I'm new around this block! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 9, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782 "2008-12-09T02:18:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lotusse3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@lotusse3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lotusse3)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/1 "2008-12-09T02:18:42Z")
What a fantastic site. I’m thinking it …so here you go. Laugh, cry, cry with laughter but for the love of biological attraction… toss out the tips and beta, ladies and gentlemen. Was kind of a player YEARS ago and now a Dad and yeah, ahhhh… here’s the scoop. Dry spells. I’m OVER 30, keep going over 35 yep that old. In decent shape, but gosh, have lost that edgy (no pun) quick chatter I used to have and that 6 pack well it’s there but truth is, I look good, but not stopping the gals with good looks. “He’s nice. He’s cute.” Nice and cute do not lead to sex. So what mones have I tried. Mostly the commercial MEGA MIXES promising everything except the kitchen sink and gorgeous gal to sit on it while I passionately caress her or wait, while she smells me all over like their ad! So my mone story is a MOAN story. Wasted cash but a bit wiser. I did try some none and my wife hated it, even with a nice cover. So what do I need and want. Confidence. That’s my job. Kindness, already have lot’s to share and do. Empathy, have lots of that and share it as well. Romantic, sorry you all, it’s just the way I am. Always the romantic! What’s left…sex or make that intimacy leading up to sex. I really love the banter and conversation and of course touch and smiles. Did I mention sex?? I’m thinking a relaxing [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/), mixed with a slight dominant, mixed with an arousal effect. Am I asking for the impossible. I sure hope not. I just need to engage in close conversation and draw women towards me and a bit of Extra sensual arousal for women and I’m happy and hopefully she is happier. I’d be lieing to tell you that it’s all about sex. It’s not. Women showing real interest in me…objectify away, would be fantastic. Some one toss out some beta…(we rock climbers call it free advice). I’m one decent man who cares and gives and I desire. Thanks (especially all of you who haven’t fallen asleep!!)😕 - Lotuss3 (like the care Lotus Esprit Tubo. ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/2 "2008-12-09T02:24:03Z")
Welcome to the forum. Yeah, it’s not all about sex, even when it’s all about sex. You’re interested in confidence? Instant Shine is the product for you. Ammo will help you to attract women, and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is a social product that will help people talk to you. Are you just looking to casually date or are you wanting a serious relationship? How did you find us? Any other goals with pheromones? To earn your GC, we’ll need this info, then we can help you more. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![lotusse3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@lotusse3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lotusse3)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/3 "2008-12-09T02:36:52Z")
Casual fun and serious relationship. Seems like I’ve been in a rut. So time to play and smile and have fun, but sincerely not at anyone’s expense. Don’t know if that makes sense. Mones? I learned about them reading chemistry books and actually research on how smells and colors afffect moods and and sales. I noticed when I wore cotton candy (cheap spray) around women clients, they had that girl at the carnival smile and negations were easier. Same with men but it was a baseball (no kidding) glove scent that I came up with. So anyway I wasted money on commercial junk and started reteaching and kept finding Pheor talk as biblio’s. Women Friends and Fun is what I want. Confidience and never loose the empathy. That’s what I want to give. > [@Robbie](#): > > Welcome to the forum. > > Yeah, it’s not all about sex, even when it’s all about sex. You’re interested in confidence? Instant Shine is the product for you. Ammo will help you to attract women, and Instant Openness is a social product that will help people talk to you. > > Are you just looking to casually date or are you wanting a serious relationship? How did you find us? Any other goals with pheromones? To earn your GC, we’ll need this info, then we can help you more. > > Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/4 "2008-12-09T02:48:24Z")
Hey there Lotusse3, welcome to the forums! Sounds like you have thought out what you’re looking for pretty well! Let’s see what we can come up with to satisfy your needs, hmm? There are alot of great products out there, but everyone has a price range (especially when its the first order), so let’s give a quick description of some that may help you, mmm? All three of the products Robbie mentioned would work very well for you, but lets get a bit more in-depth. Instant Shine is a pheromone that gives off a “healthy vibe” to others and has been known to give some people an extra boost of confidence. Instant Openness helps people around you feel a bit more chatty and makes you seem more approachable as a result. Ammo is a sexual pheromone (yup, that means -none), but is buffered with two [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) and a cologne scent mixed in. Works pretty well for sending out a vibe that you want to be more than friends. 😉 I would recommend some Instant Gentleman, which gives off a cool, comforting vibe, that you are mature man who could provide for a woman. It also has a slight attractive nature to it, which never hurt anyone. 🙄 Well, thats about it from me! Hope your second foray into the world of pheromones goes alot better than the first! Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![lotusse3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@lotusse3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lotusse3)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/5 "2008-12-09T03:20:21Z")
Thanks all! So it looks like the commons I’m seeing from everyone is [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and Shine or Ammo and Honesty? Any feedback from the women mixers for this newbie. Btw. I should add that I’ve tried ONS and I like it, but several women did not. I did use some other stone products (am I allowed to mention that?) and I felt a slight buzz and noticed glances in the grocery store. Was convinced it was just My confidence.:o **KISS. I’m hearing Ammo and Honesty, ladies your opinions?** And how do I order? I’d be less than instantly honest to tell you the 25 coupon isn’t needed. Really don’t mind investing, but a discount is nice. Does the discount come via e mail? Again from a leaner to you all…Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/6 "2008-12-09T03:31:33Z")
Yup, the gift certificate is sent to the email address you signed up for the forums under. You can use it when you are checking out at the Smartmones store… when it comes to payment options, there will be an option for the certificate. It is NOT the area for coupons, thats another thing entirely, so dont get confused with that. And although you may not need it, we’re offering it, so why not take it? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![lotusse3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@lotusse3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lotusse3)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/7 "2008-12-09T03:35:54Z")
Excellent…I’ll wait for it in my email and order Ammo and shine or honesty at least two of the three. It’s cool that men leave share their experience, do women ever post what they like and don’t like with us newbies? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/8 "2008-12-09T03:38:56Z")
Tisha hands out the gift certificates, so you’ll need to wait for her to show up. She’ll let you know if you’ve met all of the qualifications for the gift certificate, but even more importantly, she offers her own insight into your situation. It’s worth waiting for, so be patient! PS. Tisha is… _ **a woman!** _ (Talk about an understatement…) ---
**Author:** ![lotusse3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@lotusse3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lotusse3)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/9 "2008-12-09T04:14:04Z")
Nice! Okay sounds like it’s sure worth the wait at cost and feedback levels. DQ but Whhat about IFM and Ammo? Has anyone had good results with that combo? ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 4:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/10 "2008-12-09T04:28:23Z")
Those two can work well together, but when you first get these products you want to go against instincts (we call that the newbie baptism, when you cover yourself with all of the products you bought all at once. You go out to “test your experiment” and everyone runs away from you 😃) and test each product solo until you get a good handle what each product does all on it’s own. Read through the links in my signature and the sticky threads in the Men’s section for additional suggestions on usage. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 7:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/11 "2008-12-09T07:25:06Z")
Hello There Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 So you wanna have more sex, ? LOL 😃 Anone can be a tricky thing, Your wife is not really picking up on the smell she is picking up on your mone change, She knows your natural mone signature even though she is unaware of knowing it. She feels different when you wear it so she looks to find the source of the difference. They do become accustomed to it so take your time getting her used to them. Find posts by Bosshank and read his guide for married guys I suggest AMMO, When starting out get regular strength, Double only if your over 40 and your wife has noticed the anone sp this is another reason to use regular. Then if you find you need more then say 3 to 4 sprays get the double next time. TUTH to spice things up in the bedroom or sexually charged atmospheres. Not good for work, church or places were you wouldn’t drop your pants and show your … 😛 Ishine for a charismatic youthful warm vibe IH for deeper communication and connection. IFM for comfort ease and getting past last minute resistance. I know you said you need sex and you already have the other stuff covered. LOL There is more then one way to get to this goal. Women become aroused differently then men. We are social emotional creatures. Men see someone that interests them, have sex or at least try to, then they feel connected and comfortable. Women see someone that interests them, looks for the connection and comfort feeling then has sex. If those feelings are not there your not getting any. See the smart guy will take the less direct more effective route. Soften up with socials and comfort mones and then let the masculine arousing vibe sneak in under the radar and… well more sex. Thats why they are called smartmones 😉 If you have questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way** Tisha ---
**Author:** ![lotusse3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@lotusse3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lotusse3)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 10:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/12 "2008-12-09T10:32:34Z")
Tisha, Thanks So Much! I find my self taking the softer non direct role. I love the sex ha-ha and sincerely the romance and chats and batter with women especially my wife. “honey are you reading this?” **😛** Ammo it is then and IFM for comfort ease and getting past last minute resistance as you sweetly put itl 🙂 Okay, I’ll re read you experienced advice again and again, just to make sure I am taking the less direct and softer route… Did I say thank You…you all are the Very Best…wow great feedback. Lotusse3 > [@tisha23](#): > > Hello There Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 > > So you wanna have more sex, ? LOL 😃 > > Anone can be a tricky thing, Your wife is not really picking up on the smell she is picking up on your mone change, She knows your natural mone signature even though she is unaware of knowing it. She feels different when you wear it so she looks to find the source of the difference. The do become accustomed to it so take your time getting her used to them. Find posts by Bosshank and read his guide for married guys > > I suggest AMMO, When starting out get regular strength, Double only if your over 40 and your wife has noticed the anone. Then if you find you need more then say 3 to 4 sprays get the double next time. > > TUTH to spice things up in the bedroom or sexually charged atmospheres. Not good for work, church or places were you wouldn’t drop your pants and show your … 😛 > > Ishine for a charismatic youthful warm vibe > > IH for deeper communication and connection. > > IFM for comfort ease and getting past last minute resistance. > > I know you said you need sex and you already have the other stuff covered. LOL There is more then one way to get to this goal. Women become aroused differently then men. We are social emotional creatures. > > Men see someone that interests them, have sex or at least try to, then they feel connected and comfortable. > > Women see someone that interests them, looks for the connection and comfort feeling then has sex. If those feelings are not there your not getting any. > > See the smart guy will take the less direct more effective route. Soften up with socials and comfort mones and then let the masculine arousing vibe sneak in under the radar and… well more sex. Thats why they are called smartmones 😉 > > If you have questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way** > > Tisha ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/13 "2008-12-09T14:07:23Z")
Hey lotus ( I love the esprit turbo v8 myself!) You asked about ammo and IFM, I’m caucasian, mid 30s and married. guess what, it works awesomely well for me. I have to say it works better on other women but that is probably down to the wife knowing my phero signature and taking longer to react to nice cuddly, sexy, phero soaked me (and she uses smartmones products as well). I see Robbie told you about the newbie baptism, we all did it, once you’ve got it out of your system and tested properly, you will know where your sweet spots are. That is the time to combine and test again. You may want to try ammo with [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and IFM a couple of hours before bed and that’s all I’m saying 😉 ---
**Author:** ![princip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@princip](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/princip)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/14 "2008-12-12T15:49:36Z")
> [@Robbie](#): > > Those two can work well together, but when you first get these products you want to go against instincts (we call that the newbie baptism, when you cover yourself with all of the products you bought all at once. You go out to “test your experiment” and everyone runs away from you 😃) and test each product solo until you get a good handle what each product does all on it’s own. > > Read through the links in my signature and the sticky threads in the Men’s section for additional suggestions on usage. > > Have fun! I agree with Robbie You have to try each pheromone by itself to see what it does. Start with one spray, then rest one day, then two sprays, rest one day then three… If this is the first time you are using androtics its like nothing you tried before. I mean they realy work. The best one to start with is ammo for attracting females. For confidence and respect from others definitely alpha a314. This one is by far the most perplexed one but its great and it takes some time to learn how to use it good luck ---
**Author:** ![lotusse3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@lotusse3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lotusse3)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/15 "2008-12-13T17:30:44Z")
Diamond. Nice. Excellent feedback. My wife knows when I’m wearing the my stone products but honestly, I’m learning…(she actually hates the smell of them)…as others have very kindly let me know…she’s notices not a just the cat pee, but a new phero signature. Plus I did the dumb dousing of nones and nols…I actually had a buzz from some of my core-mone stash. Anyway I ramble. I can’t wait, I ordered last week and have been checking daily for the box of GOLD. **What are some good cover scents you use… one night I used somed edge gel and used my wife’s Gucci for Women (envy me…she was HOT)…seriously…barley used any of the Gucci, but I’m convinced the cover worked!** 😉 She likes P Dmsy and I despise it, it smells terrible on me. She likes it out of the bottle. I’m tired of Tommy H and it’s winter. Is a Prada or a Berogomt based and classy winter cover good? At work I need something with a Very Pro and Signature Scent. Just really need some feedback on good high end covers (even if I have to use testers) 3 kids and a budget know what I mean? **Anyway…_You All_ are all over it… I really appreciate all of the help!** Thanks, Jim oh ad BTW the V8 Lotus is Flipping Fantastic. I drove one once so far…it’s the cost isssue…lol. Like I could just go out and by 3 Esprit turbs if they are 4’s but can’t afford just one V8 lol. I will have one, maybe soon maybe when I’m really really silver gray!🆒 _ **“A dream is a flame that burns out if you give up!”** _ > [@diamond](#): > > Hey lotus ( I love the esprit turbo v8 myself!) > > You asked about ammo and IFM, I’m caucasian, mid 30s and married. guess what, it works awesomely well for me. I have to say it works better on other women but that is probably down to the wife knowing my phero signature and taking longer to react to nice cuddly, sexy, phero soaked me (and she uses smartmones products as well). > > I see Robbie told you about the newbie baptism, we all did it, once you’ve got it out of your system and tested properly, you will know where your sweet spots are. That is the time to combine and test again. You may want to try ammo with Instant Honesty and IFM a couple of hours before bed and that’s all I’m saying 😉 ---
**Author:** ![lotusse3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@lotusse3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lotusse3)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 12:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/16 "2008-12-14T00:45:41Z")
2 hours ago I sprayed 1 IFM on each wrist and 1 ammo on each arm (wearing a short sleeve shirt) My wife is chatty and smiling as soon as she walked in the door. So far so good. I don’t think I “baptized” The dry down after two hours is very very nice and subtle. No comments about mones or cat pee (what she said about a few nol and ones I’ve used). April whomever you are where ever you are- Thank You. When I finnally found my shipment there was IS in it, wow. Nice little confidence smell for me. I have not spayed it yet. (see “baptizing and above”) More to come later and hopefully much more. Under the radar with a soft social approach and some smart mones. -Jim Lotusse3 ---
**Author:** ![lotusse3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@lotusse3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lotusse3)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/17 "2008-12-14T23:42:43Z")
Back to you Robbie. Day 3 with smart mones. 3 shots of Ammo total, forarms and one quick spray of IFM on each side behind the ears. I was at my daughters Ballet performance. Very Crowded. My wife was super busy and yet was more touchy feely in a subtle way. Instead of saying “Honey, walk over here for a minute…” she would hold grab my hand or put her arm around me, to move me over there with her. _ **Very nice.** _ BTW: \*\* Other mom’s 20-30’s gave me glances. Out of my leauge women in the past. Maybe they were just glances, but I noticed a few hair filps, two blushes, and an overt glance at me- look down, glance at me and then turnaround and glance when I walked by. I Love My Wife and would be an idiot to say, the extra’s notices from women where not enjoyed. They were outstanding and welcomed for just what they were, Glances… Come on now lol…🙄 ;)I like the confidence it gave me. 😉 I felt like a kid again, with just a bit of michivious in my eyes even thought I was there for my kids and the Nutcracker (the ballet!!). I haven’t tried the IS yet. I want to get a good handle on Ammo and IFM in the work envrionment and see how they do togehter and simply seperate. My wife hasn’t said a thing about the (cat pee smell) like some other very good products I’ve tried. _I’m really suprised._ If I’m running this tread up, please be kind enough to share the right spots to post progress and dumb things and cool things. Lotusse3 -Jim * * * “A dream is a flame that burns out if you give up!”\*\*\* > [@Robbie](#): > > Welcome to the forum. > > Yeah, it’s not all about sex, even when it’s all about sex. You’re interested in confidence? Instant Shine is the product for you. Ammo will help you to attract women, and Instant Openness is a social product that will help people talk to you. > > Are you just looking to casually date or are you wanting a serious relationship? How did you find us? Any other goals with pheromones? To earn your GC, we’ll need this info, then we can help you more. > > Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/18 "2008-12-15T00:03:31Z")
Hey There. Your off to a great start 😃 I am so happy for you. I think your really gonna love these products. You can post your report in the mens tips and tricks section if you want. They will get more exposure there. Another thing the men like to do so all there info is in the same place for themselves and people to go over is start a journal. If you go into the mens tips and tricks section and look to the top you will see a subforum for those. This section can only be read by people who are members of the forum so you can have a little more privacy if you wish. I look forward to hearing more from you. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/okay-so-im-new-around-this-block/23782/19 "2008-12-15T21:15:08Z")
Yes, very cool! It’s great to see that you’re having this kind of success. As you progress, you’ll discover that these products just get better and better. Pretty much any cologne will work as cover with these products. I’d think Prada would work great. Michael Storer is going to be offering some colognes through this site (very shortly, they say!), you should pick up the $15 sample pack (7 colognes!), if you can. Fantastic stuff.