# Old Flame !! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 14, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/old-flame/30681 "2009-07-14T16:19:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BubbleCatcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ebca7d/32.png) [@BubbleCatcher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BubbleCatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/old-flame/30681/1 "2009-07-14T16:19:08Z")
Hello, ok i went to reunion party saturday, my mix worked well and got good reps from old mates most of who are still hairy arsed bikers. I knew an old flame was going to be there, she arrived later than me and after quick hello we just circled each other for few hours until the beer was taking effect. We did not get it together but did spend the rest of night talking and holding hands, after which we swapped numbers and she said she would call in few days. Well she did today and we are going to meet up next week as she working nights this week. A little while after call i got a text asking if i was sure i wanted to meet up as i sounded unsure!! I sent text back assuring i did and we have been exchanging text since. Now i have a long and painful history with this old flame, first meet her when i was 18 and although we were very close we never got it together as couple until my mid twenties. This failed badly as nether of us could deal with intense feeling and i was not really in head space for having relationships. The result she broke my heart by going off with my brother. Now i can people saying RUN, but this woman must have some powerful pheros as she just causes feeling no other woman has and just feels like the missing peace. So what is the problem and how can pheros help? Well first off there is no issue with attraction but there is with me just chilling and going with the flow, my heart says go for it but head has warning bells. In the past she always played her cards close to chest but is now doing the chasing. So looking to get her open up and be honest, plus looking to silence them warning bells. This is only ever going to be a long or bust relationship but as we are opposite characters it may be a rocky road to start as we will both need compromise so communication is going to be very important. If anyone is interested in star signs, i am Taurus and she a Scorpio and although i am into them are personalities do match our star signs. I am thinking that Instant Honesty and maybe some [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) would be good start. Any thoughts? cheers PS just read this back and sounds like i need an agony aunt not pheros šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/old-flame/30681/2 "2009-07-14T22:37:59Z")
IH is good, I think A314 would be a better choice here than IG even though Iā€™m an IG nut. A314 is going to be a much better status booster. A314 is more mysterious while IG is more comforting. If sheā€™s playing ā€œclose to the chestā€ you donā€™t want your cards on the table. Just my thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![BubbleCatcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ebca7d/32.png) [@BubbleCatcher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BubbleCatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/old-flame/30681/3 "2009-07-16T08:38:02Z")
You could be right about A314, when i saw her Saturday i had on A314 2 drops Jerk 2 sprays togo IS 2x 2 sprays IO 2x 2 sprays IH 3 sprays Also had a had togo in pocket that leaked later in night that was mixture of IO IH IS IG She is definitely doing the running this time around and seems a lot more open. I canā€™t see her being into pheros but even after all these years i still remember that she always really smelled great, must be her natural pheros! I was wondering if i should invest in some TAL as this is reported to p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } disinhibit women? ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 10:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/old-flame/30681/4 "2009-07-16T10:51:32Z")
I would not use TAL around somebody I was trying to attract. For me it had more of an effect of letting me into their world. Attraction is pulling them into your world. If you need to see things from her perspective TAL would give her permission to show it to you. Does that make sense? ---
**Author:** ![BubbleCatcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ebca7d/32.png) [@BubbleCatcher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BubbleCatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 11:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/old-flame/30681/5 "2009-07-16T11:23:49Z")
> [@renny](#): > > I would not use TAL around somebody I was trying to attract. For me it had more of an effect of letting me into their world. Attraction is pulling them into your world. If you need to see things from her perspective TAL would give her permission to show it to you. Does that make sense? As already said the attraction is already there, and always has been on both sides just she was always a bit guarded about letting me into her world, so from what say TAL maybe useful ! ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/old-flame/30681/6 "2009-07-16T12:16:12Z")
In that case, from my experience with it; others may feel differently, yes TAL could be good. Use a small amount (2.5 - 5mcg)and balance it with A314. You could use AMMO to balance it as well. Beware of her treating you like a girlfriend. When I was using it in a Spanish language class full of girls they tried to suck me right into the ā€œgirl dramaā€. In other words it worked too good. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![BubbleCatcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ebca7d/32.png) [@BubbleCatcher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BubbleCatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 10:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/old-flame/30681/7 "2009-07-17T10:17:57Z")
> [@renny](#): > > In that case, from my experience with it; others may feel differently, yes TAL could be good. Use a small amount (2.5 - 5mcg)and balance it with A314. You could use AMMO to balance it as well. Beware of her treating you like a girlfriend. When I was using it in a Spanish language class full of girls they tried to suck me right into the ā€œgirl dramaā€. In other words it worked too good. šŸ˜ƒ Thanks for the advice, have to wait until Wednesday to see how things go. ---
**Author:** ![BubbleCatcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ebca7d/32.png) [@BubbleCatcher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BubbleCatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 11:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/old-flame/30681/8 "2009-07-23T11:46:48Z")
Hello, ok met up with old flame last night, i used the following. 2 drops A314 1 1/2 sprays ammo 1 spray shine x2 2 spray openness x2 6 spray honesty 2 spray GIT cover Arrived as wine bar before she did and ordered drink and got hits of both barmaids. We were both pretty nervous about this meeting as it has been twenty years since we were an item, so she arrived and we sat down and she said i smelled really good, GIT was worth investment. Started off with bit of small talk, but she was doing lot preening, applying lip gloss, and kino. The openness must have hit her along with nerves as she was doing all the talking, then honest kicked in as we started talking about the past. She was being more open and honest then she ever was, now i know that she had changed and become more open but i know the honesty was working because she would start opening up and then stop and say, ā€˜no should not got thereā€™ but after small pause she would start up again on same subject. As said she was doing lot of preening, lip glossing and if playfully neg her would respond with playful punches. Just before going to get something to eat i applied 1/2 TUTH. Kino and increased during meal and she began to fidget, preen even more and blush. We both had great night and agreed we wanted to take it further, made arrangement to see each other again and left separately after kiss, though texted each other when got home. So all is going well and even things would have gone well without pheros, i know they sure did help move things along smoothly. Now i have week to go till next meeting as she working shifts and has family commitments, so do i stay with same mix or add something else to mix? Think MX292 as like this effect. TAF is also a possibility as read this in ladies forum. > [@](#): > > TAF has been reported to somehow reset past perceptions, so that wearing TAF kind of makes things as though they were being experienced for the first time. It does not interfere with memory at all. But it does allow you to go back and put things into a different perspective. In this regard, TAF is ideal for starting over in situations where the previous outcome wasnā€™t all that great. It gives you a second chance to make the right impression. This could be useful and as there was lot of pain in past on my side and she still thinks that i carry this forward, which i do not as have come to terms with and for me it in the past. The other option is thinking of P73 as sure i read that it can be good as dis-inhibitor! any thoughts welcome. cheers