# Older men and younger women **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [January 14, 2012, 11:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212 "2012-01-14T11:07:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 11:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/1 "2012-01-14T11:07:55Z")
Say your 40 something and want a 20 something crushing in you. Is there a special formula you’d apply for this process (not mone related), that you wouldn’t use on older women? Any tips? 😮 ---
**Author:** ![CanadianGuy45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@CanadianGuy45](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CanadianGuy45)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 2:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/2 "2012-01-14T14:54:30Z")
I also am curious regarding any replies from the resident experts. Wes ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/3 "2012-01-14T15:54:17Z")
MX353 always worked like magic on youger ones … it´s long gone .. but there´s UF2,5 that you could try instead .. **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![CanadianGuy45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@CanadianGuy45](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CanadianGuy45)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/4 "2012-01-14T18:10:00Z")
> [@Pagodeiro](#): > > MX353 always worked like magic on youger ones … > > it´s long gone .. but there´s UF2,5 that you could try instead .. > > **Pago** It shows that MX353 is not available. I definitely would be interested in it. Thank you for the tip. Hopefully the product returns. Wes ---
**Author:** ![Bri72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@Bri72](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bri72)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/5 "2012-01-14T18:13:43Z")
LOL. I always found older women a lot more interesting, in fact I married one.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![CanadianGuy45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@CanadianGuy45](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CanadianGuy45)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/6 "2012-01-14T23:41:23Z")
I can appreciate that, personally, yet at this point i, myself am looking to attract ladies that are in their 30’s. Right now i am not necessarily looking for a lifemate, more of i guess some spice of life. Regards, Wes ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/7 "2012-01-15T01:59:03Z")
Being in great shape helps tremendously. I’m in better shape than most guys in their early 20’s. I prefer women closer to my age or older. The younger women are nice to look at, but I don’t feel that connection them. Feels like something is missing. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 12:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/8 "2012-01-15T12:05:03Z")
Hell I know this wont make me popular but here go’s. Some [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) are more appealing to the younger set and some to the older set. Older women tend to like high anone sig’s while younger ones tend to go for a mix of the social and masculines. It has more to do with experience and maturity then it does with you though. Pheromone however are not going to overcome the other points of attraction. The farther the age gap the less sexual attraction occurs because most times those other points of attraction are lacking. Of course there are always exceptions to the rule. I know guys see in the media young women hanging on the arm of older men but thats an illusion created by money. Lets face it there are gold diggers and status seekers out there. There are also those who are looking for a father figure. Not your ONS types really they are looking more to fill an emotional need. I think when targeting women in general you should look at a 10 year age range lower then your own. Possibly 12 to 13 years but thats pushing it. The age gap from 20 to 40 is to wide. Think back to when you were 20. 40 seemed like an old person. The connect is just not there. JMO Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/9 "2012-01-15T12:40:06Z")
Mixes involving [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/)/390 have produced lots of IOI’s/attraction responses with younger women around me and recently Mx297/P75 has done quite well - However, I’m not really interested in very young women beyond a bit of flirting. Been there, got burned a long time ago. Broadly I agree with Tisha. Also IH/P74, sometimes with a small amount of A314. Anything involving P130 - That one just scares the boots off me when it comes to hits from youngsters! 😮 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/10 "2012-01-15T13:18:48Z")
> [@CanadianGuy45](#): > > I can appreciate that, personally, yet at this point i, myself am looking to attract ladies that are in their 30’s. Right now i am not necessarily looking for a lifemate, more of i guess some spice of life. By their 30s, women are generally fully responsive to more overt/higher none sigs, so you have a much greater range of pheros/doses/mixes to play with. your choices are all good for them. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 1:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/11 "2012-01-16T13:13:02Z")
Ok Although 20 to 40 may be a big age gap, I am 40 and act like a 20 something, look like a 20 something , dress like a 20 something, and live like a 20 something. I am heavily into creating electric guitar covers and having my own youtube channel. I find a lot of 20 somethings are watching my videos by looking at youtube demographics. Sure most are 30-45 but there are quite a handful of women in the 20’s who like the rock and roll and slow songs I play by u2. Having a rock star image may help me out more than say if I told these 20 somethings I was a vice president. the status of vice president helps but its an old fart job and not something a hip young man is into. Young girls love music. In fact they listen to music on their mp3 players and ipods more than anything else these days. teenage girls are even more into it but that’s pushing it. I was thinking if I go after a 20 something I come across as too needy. I want them to chase me and build infatuation and admiration. that comes from fashion, looks, body, and status. I know this one girl who is studying to be a math teacher. She is 21 and is attending Univesity that I attended when I was younger. Perhaps I’m too old for her for a relationship but I didn’t say I want to marry her. I was just looking to build insane lust, fascination, admiration, and hope it lead to a great make out session and maybe more. I realize many young girls still don’t have sex and that is ok with me as my hormones aren’t what they used to be when I was in my 20’s anyways. Some may be put off by all the young hormone filled guys they encounter, and may be looking for someone with more self control. The key is to avoid perversion. I know when I was in my 20’s I would think women in 40’s were old bags and didn’t care what status they achieved or what job position they had. But if they were to have seduced me without coming on too strong I may have fallen for them without even being aware. It’s when a man comes on strong to women half his age that problems occur. So gentlemen and women, let’s forget mones for a moment and talk about GAME for luring this bait shall we? dsouza ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/12 "2012-01-16T15:54:32Z")
> [@](#): > > So gentlemen and women, let’s forget mones for a moment and talk about GAME for luring this bait shall we? I really dont mean this offensively. Now I could blow smoke up your butt and tell you what you want to hear there by getting your hopes up and causing you possible pain when those hopes are dashed or I can tell you the truth. Your shooting to low in age. You may act and appear young to a certain extent but the bone structure of a 20 something man and a 40 something man is different. Women can tell your range pretty accurately no matter how you dress or act. You may be able to pull off fooling them on first glance or meeting depending how quickly they process but they will process it. Men can do the same with women. We do it the same way we subconsciously process mones or BL. Now there will be a small demographic of 18 to lets say 25 year olds that may over look age but they are far and few between. For the sake of the example and without calculating in the other points of attraction lets use a round number of 1 in 1000 women. If you move your target age up a little to say 25 to 29 your odds are going to increase greatly by almost 25% so now you will have 250 possibilities instead of 1. Move into the 30’s and your odds go up again now by 50% now your choices are 500 possibilities. The demographic of 20 something women in a sexual relationship with 40 something or better men is less then 1% of the population. That’s like baiting with a wet noodle. Your purely much going on luck. You cant change whats outside of yourself to effect this demographic. You have to change what is in your control and that’s your target range. Now this may be hard for some to except but it happens to all of us. Men find it harder to change there target demo though. I know your married and have a arrangement so your not looking for something serious or long term. If you were and your preference was in that low range I would suggest waiting for a target in that range. However your just looking to have some “casual fun”. If you don’t change that target range you will spend most your time looking and not very much time having “casual fun” > [@](#): > > I know when I was in my 20’s I would think women in 40’s were old bags and didn’t care what status they achieved or what job position they had. > But if they were to have seduced me without coming on too strong I may have fallen for them without even being aware. Your comparing apples to oranges. Men will act if seduced by an older women more simply because its instinctual. Women on the other hand do not act on instinct as readily as men. We act with more emotion and reason. Status while a point of attraction has changed greatly over the generations. Women used to gain status through there partners. Not so anymore. Its why you see more cougars now and why the average age 20 somethings preferance has shrunk from 10 years older to 3 to 6 years older. That 10 year range I gave you earlier was from old data. So I was giving you some space to work in. So if you want to play the “game” just for the sake of playing keep targeting what you currently are and I am sure there are guys here who will give you some tips. I tend to teach people how to be successful. However, If you want to actually be successful at the game your going to have to learn to play it with the current “rules” our culture has set for it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/13 "2012-01-16T16:18:20Z")
Good point Tisha. Do you care to comment on the following article: [How To Make Younger Women Chase You](http://www.luckylovers.net/f/text/169.How+To+Make+Younger+Women+Chase+You?PHPSESSID=rr7a154rs8ttjjtfb35halp0f2) dsouza ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 11:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/14 "2012-01-18T11:07:39Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Good point Tisha. Do you care to comment on the following article: > [How To Make Younger Women Chase You](http://www.luckylovers.net/f/text/169.How+To+Make+Younger+Women+Chase+You?PHPSESSID=rr7a154rs8ttjjtfb35halp0f2) > > dsouza I think its a good article although it just skims the surface info for attraction and game. I do think its very good advice. Learning kino and BL go’s a long way in attraction. Actors and musicians take classes on these things. Seems to me what your looking for is the rock star persona. You want younger women to become infatuated with you and chase. Basically your looking for some “groupies” 😃 The article covers the basics and I feel its correct in a “real world” scenario. You don’t want to push or show your undying affection. That only works in the movies. Keep in mind when your thinking about rock stars. We see them depicted in the media with all these young girls stalking them and offering sexual favors as if they are gods and while there is some truth to it they blow it out of proportion in the media. Just like with certain actors you see who are less then visually attractive winning over the super model its the same for rock stars who end up with them. However its more about fame and money then it is about the game or to be more clear they are just playing a different game. These people didn’t achieve this status by focusing on girls chasing them. Girls chasing them is a result of there status in there craft. They achieved there status by focusing on that craft and moving forward with it. My question for you is are you focusing on your craft or are you focusing on what that craft can bring you ? As far as getting young women to chase you I am not going to say it could never happen. Life has a natural order though. To enjoy the side effects of the rock star first you have to achieve that status. Focus on your craft and the rest will follow. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/15 "2012-01-18T22:52:15Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > My question for you is are you focusing on your craft or are you focusing on what that craft can bring you ? I’m focusing on making love to Tisha just a couple of thousand times and it isn’t working. Can you help? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/16 "2012-01-18T23:38:40Z")
Btw, Look up Speed Seduction by Ross Jeffries. He is the man when it comes to seducing women. I still don’t get the fascination with the younger women. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/17 "2012-01-19T06:07:44Z")
Hey you never know.. you could be two lost souls looking for each other 😉 ---
**Author:** ![gatsby](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gatsby/32/1906_2.png) [@gatsby](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gatsby)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/older-men-and-younger-women/54212/18 "2012-08-16T23:02:22Z")
The biggest thing for anything like this where it’s not a normal pairing is access. What do you do? Are you in advertising where older men are always working with younger women and they are always looking up to them. I’ve seen lots of pairings in this industry and it’s quite normal. Tisha already covered the gold digger types as well. These you can usually snag with bottle service etc like the financial types do. Getting them is really not hard but it’s all about being in an environment where it is normal for them to overlook the age range. If you can get this going then it’s just normal boy/girl dynamics and if all else fails just wait until you are alone and do the naked man. If you don’t understand look up How I met your mother and Naked Man. It’s hilarious. - Gats