# One Nite, No Women = OD **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 28, 2007, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-nite-no-women-od/4849 "2007-07-28T18:53:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gingercool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gingercool](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gingercool)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-nite-no-women-od/4849/1 "2007-07-28T18:53:09Z")
So last night, i had a club nite to go to. What better to spray some [pheromones](https://a314.com/). I sprayed 2 Ammo, One Insant Shine, and Two Turn up the heat. I was a freakin …ghost hahaha Can anyone give me tips to Not have this happen again ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-nite-no-women-od/4849/2 "2007-07-28T19:03:56Z")
Less sprays of TUTH? ---
**Author:** ![ProtoJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@ProtoJay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ProtoJay)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-nite-no-women-od/4849/3 "2007-07-28T19:42:06Z")
Try buffering it with androstedienone (Instant Female Magic) or Openness/Honesty/CTTM for a friendly vibe… [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) seems to draw attention to you, but its one spray of standard Shine is unlikely to do much to calm down 10mcg of -none. Most likely, you either have a high none and you simply turn off the females, as they sense you are best avoided, or they perhaps are interested and are simply too intimidated to approach you or talk to you and need you to initiate and carry teh conversation in order to feel safe… I have found that peculiarity of female psychology, when the male is not very threatening and is on their level so to speak, they are happy to chat, but when the male seems domineering and powerful, they usually go into some kind of pre programmed evolutionary behaviour where they dont initiate anything, and the most you will get is some subtle body language, eye contact, etc… In this case, the only way to know if they are interested is to flirt and converse with them… (As I have many girls in the friend zone, you often here them remake “He is sooo fine, I just couldnt talk to him”, ie, girls are alot like guys if they see someone they feel is high value, they will be afraid of messing up) If you decrease the none to maybe 2.5mcg or 5.0mcg, and buffer it with some less harsh pheromones, you will most likely be less intimidating to females… Lets put it this way, when I put on the amount of none your talking about (10mcg) at work, I usually scare my boss and make him really passive and whenever he asks me to do something, its always “please, if you could” and very much less as if hes telling me to do it. The respect level goes up, and its almost like roles reversed. He is afraid of saying anything that might be offensive… as soon as he sees me… Before pheromones he was one of the most cocky arrogant bastards you would know, and tried to pick on or bully anyone who didnt stand up for themselves… Now I can pretty much bully him… (not that I would, im quite gentle unless someone really offends me or is aggressive) ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-nite-no-women-od/4849/4 "2007-07-28T20:19:26Z")
Or go to a club with lots of middle aged women. They usually dig a none OD and will jump your bones and good. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 2:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-nite-no-women-od/4849/5 "2007-07-29T02:16:25Z")
> [@gingercool](#): > > So last night, i had a club nite to go to. > What better to spray some pheromones. > I sprayed 2 Ammo, One Insant Shine, and Two Turn up the heat. > I was a freakin …ghost hahaha > Can anyone give me tips to Not have this happen again You nawtee boy!! At the age of 20, I’d say up the Shine 1 and down Turn up the heat 1 = 2 [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), 2 Shine, and 1 TUTH, or 1 Ammo, 2 Shine, and 1 TUTH. You’re going to have to continue working your combos until you find what fits you. I’m sure you’ve seen lots of days without hits/attacks/one night stands, so continue experimenting. Everyone wants THE ANSWER, but regardless how many tips you receive, you’re going to have to experiment by upping and downing your dosages. Stay the course! ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-nite-no-women-od/4849/6 "2007-07-29T03:53:43Z")
At your age I wouldn’t recommend to use more than 5mcg of -none at discos, even less. Try less Turn Up The Heat and Ammo 😉. Ammo has 2.5mcg per spray but it’s buffered, anyway it’s -none, and TUTH has 2.5mcg per spray, too. Good Luck! ---
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-nite-no-women-od/4849/7 "2007-07-29T15:37:59Z")
haha… this has happened to me… I’d suggest ammo to tuth ratio should be like 2:.5 but that’s me… once again… tuth can turn woman away VERY quickly as there’s some effect it has on different stages of “the cycle” so dont go too crazy on that… ---
**Author:** ![gingercool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gingercool](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gingercool)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 7:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-nite-no-women-od/4849/8 "2007-07-29T19:35:18Z")
thank you everyone for helping me through this, I am now sure that it was Turn up the heat that got me to where I was. I will be trying Instant Shine, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Ammo. Will post back here. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 8:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-nite-no-women-od/4849/9 "2007-07-29T20:30:04Z")
> [@gingercool](#): > > thank you everyone for helping me through this, > I am now sure that it was Turn up the heat that got me to where I was. > I will be trying Instant Shine, Instant Openness and Ammo. Will post back here. 🙂 The ammo has none too. See Capone’s post above. Both the none products factor into the effect you got. ---
**Author:** ![gingercool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gingercool](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gingercool)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 5:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-nite-no-women-od/4849/10 "2007-07-30T05:12:18Z")
So today. Only sprayed one spray of Instant Openess on the chest and 1 spray of cologne The response was better, met 6 girls, all were acting very friendly and one kept talking about her job so much i had to walk away Although, the down side: later in the evening, i came home, and my mom picked me up and asked me if i had a shower today. . … and if i have a problem cus i smell like sweat right now. Is this a reaction of pheromones? or is this because i am not applying cologne enough? Please advice Do you use a deo, cologne and pheros all togethjer ? or just cologne does the job ? ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-nite-no-women-od/4849/11 "2007-08-03T18:02:04Z")
Maybe you had sweat or something. Of course that I wear deodorant, everyday, everytime of the day, IMO it’s absolutely necessary, doesn’t matter if you sweat a lot or a little, you never know when you will have to run or when will it be a hot day. I have never ever got any reaction from a-Androstenol and people saying it smells like sweat, maybe after conversion it does? When I started using pheros i noticed a little increase in sweat production but it got normal after 2 weeks, and cologne doesn’t cover sweat IMHO, it can cover (depending on what scent) -none, but there is always a sweat-end, if you have. I’d better use deodorant as always in your armpits. It’s true that other products that have -none or have a bad scent makes people tell you that you are smelling like cat-piss or sweat, but IMO one only covered spray of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is not very probable that makes you smell like that. 😉