# Optimal preformance out of mones. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 23, 2012, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/optimal-preformance-out-of-mones/56494 "2012-08-23T07:51:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/optimal-preformance-out-of-mones/56494/1 "2012-08-23T07:51:38Z")
I had an issue when using pheromones, an issue I am sure most people have when using mones and just do not realize. That issue is what mones to use for the outcome you desire. A few users (Credit to 1Alpha) use personality tests to determine what pheromone is congruent with an individuals specific personality. Most mones work over all demographic’s, but efficacy is inconsistent. TuTH is hit or miss on younger women, but is hit with the vast majority of older women. This is due in part to a wide array of reasons, and proven by trial and error, but it sheds light on a primary neglected usage of mones. **Efficacy is dependent on whom you are attracting, or looking to impress.** A314 sheds you in a higher respect than all others, which is a positive quality in a general sense. It can be negative if a superior finds you or it imposing or a threat to their own authority. This affirms my finding, that when using mones, it is best to tailor usage for your desired audience or reaction. If you want to attract a specific type of woman, for example a young blonde, IG, IO and P83 is more effective than lets say Ammo paired with Instant Shine. In that same vein, older women most often find A314 more attractive than IG due the steering molecules, as A314 is more pronounced. Mones are often applied as a one-size approach, despite our best efforts. A person uses A314 at work because of positive reference experience. But if his boss is the type to be threatened by another dominant male, it is a miss of a product. That brings me to the point of this thread (I apologize for the lack of articulation), Pheromones are best used to appeal to the personality of who you are after. Looking at our usage in this light offers the same suggestions in most cases, but can increase results when you are looking for specific hits. Down to the key example and why I thought of this theory. I have seen or dated three different women recently, one is my girlfriend, the other is conservative girl, and the last is a bombshell. My girlfriend is a party girl, she is where the party is. She is very attractive, a brunette, is in love with the night life. She is 22, goes to a large university in Florida and besides me, is never in relationships, she goes after the fun guy in the moment. The conservative girl is a gal from a very religious and strict family. She works as a secretary, shows up early, leaves late. She is 21. She does not drink, does not party, very rarely goes out. She looks for a charming and captivating guy. The bombshell is a girl who is the youngest at 18. She is the center of attention. She loves it when a man takes control. She often goes after the ‘jerk’ type. In PUA, most ‘guru’s’ state that you use the same material on every girl, but those are all party girls and you look to in some degree entertain. Women you meet during the day have a different approach, you are direct and sincere. I found the above true in meeting women, and with Pheromone use. The Party Girl, my girlfriend, responds best to MX297. I can dress it up or down, the fun vibe works. -None is not as effective. It does not mean it does nto get her excited, it just is less effective. The Conservative Girl responds best to [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). The warm charisma works for her. It is not too suggestive, but still has that appeal. When I wear more -None she has commented that I seem to come on too strong and with MX297 she enjoys my company more but I am more entertaining than a suitable person to date. The Blonde Bombshell responds best to high -None. I have used IJ, A314 and TuTH to good success. Ammo is too weak, she gets bored unless I put in the work and push the interaction with PUA techniques (Push and Pull) and get physical. This brought me to a profound realization after testing several products on these women, no matter demographic, how or when I saw them, some women respond better to an ideal signature. Men do as well. I hope I helped someone out with my observations. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 8:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/optimal-preformance-out-of-mones/56494/2 "2012-08-23T08:42:16Z")
Yes - I absolutely agree. Once you get beyond the superficial intro/attraction/social engagement stage, you can then look to establish mixes that target more specific aspects of an individual personality. However, this is usually where you run into limitations with the consumer products and have to start researching a range of Ps etc. So doing a bit of advance work and understanding a range of products that work on different levels and aspects for you does stand you in good stead. Also, you normally need to be getting to know them pretty well and goung from say “[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) was great with her” straight into a complex and nuanced mix is probably going to go flat on its face as you need to transition the new molecules carefully. ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 8:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/optimal-preformance-out-of-mones/56494/3 "2012-08-23T08:48:15Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Yes - I absolutely agree. Once you get beyond the superficial intro/attraction/social engagement stage, you can then look to establish mixes that target more specific aspects of an individual personality. However, this is usually where you run into limitations with the consumer products and have to start researching a range of Ps etc. So doing a bit of advance work and understanding a range of products that work on different levels and aspects for you does stand you in good stead. > > Also, you normally need to be getting to know them pretty well and goung from say “Ammo was great with her” straight into a complex and nuanced mix is probably going to go flat on its face as you need to transition the new molecules carefully. I agree. I do find that I am the most happy when I wear a mix to attract the type of woman I want. Something tailored for a specific woman is something finely crafted, but in a more generic sense, I found that you can wear a basic mix to attract the type of woman you want. I think someone who knows what they want in a woman can find custom made results by wearing what the woman he desires would respond to. Not a perfect mix, but better than a blind approach some take. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/optimal-preformance-out-of-mones/56494/4 "2012-08-24T04:06:55Z")
Great post 😃 One thing I see people mention is hair color. Just for the sake of clarity hair color has little to do with chemical attraction especially in this day and age wear most people alter there natural color. So the “dark haired bombshell” is going to respond pheromonally the same as the blond one. You so right in that one size does not fit all both on the user and within your target groups preference but you can make any mix work. If chemical communication and attraction was the only piece of attraction this wouldn’t be true. Preferences would be set in stone. What people need to do on top of wearing what suits them and there targets best is learn to work with your mones using other forms of communication. Learning to use kinesics…body language, facial expressions and gestures along side your [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) is what makes the difference between a mild response and blatant responses. Linguistics is also part of that overall attraction communication. Its not what you say its how you say it. We communicate with all of our senses. Dont try to make your mones work learn to work your mones. Learn those three skills and it wont matter what you look like or how much money you have… the world will become your oyster 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 5:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/optimal-preformance-out-of-mones/56494/5 "2012-08-24T05:36:25Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Great post 😃 > > One thing I see people mention is hair color. Just for the sake of clarity hair color has little to do with chemical attraction especially in this day and age wear most people alter there natural color. So the “dark haired bombshell” is going to respond pheromonally the same as the blond one. > > You so right in that one size does not fit all both on the user and within your target groups preference but you can make any mix work. If chemical communication and attraction was the only piece of attraction this wouldn’t be true. Preferences would be set in stone. > > What people need to do on top of wearing what suits them and there targets best is learn to work with your mones using other forms of communication. Learning to use kinesics…body language, facial expressions and gestures along side your pheromones is what makes the difference between a mild response and blatant responses. > > Linguistics is also part of that overall attraction communication. Its not what you say its how you say it. > > We communicate with all of our senses. Dont try to make your mones work learn to work your mones. > > Learn those three skills and it wont matter what you look like or how much money you have… the world will become your oyster 😉 > > Tisha I completely agree. Hair color is just an indicator of genetic composition. (On a side tangent, very few people know that genetically speaking, red-headed people are far enough away from the other ethnicities to be considered a different ethnicity all together. This means attracting them with pheromones is an entirely different world) Why can’t other just make it easy on us mone users and stay natural! 🙄 Body language tells more about a person than their words, or actions. Another side tangent, but mones are WORTHLESS is you do not understand body language. Many people expect a hit to be a ‘deer in head lights’ moment or uncontrolled laughter. But most often, it is the subtle lean in, or slight nervousness that exposes a hit. You are blind to what you are not looking for. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/optimal-preformance-out-of-mones/56494/6 "2012-08-24T06:43:10Z")
> [@](#): > > Body language tells more about a person than their words, or actions. Another side tangent, but [mones](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) are WORTHLESS is you do not understand body language. Many people expect a hit to be a ‘deer in head lights’ moment or uncontrolled laughter. But most often, it is the subtle lean in, or slight nervousness that exposes a hit. You are blind to what you are not looking for. Its good to hear from someone who gets it. LOL So many people think “Ok I will just spray this on and thats it, they will chase me like on those axe commercial” When they dont see it happen they just give up or dismiss mones all together as bogus. Its like saying I will never speak again because I don’t understand every word in the dictionary. If that was how life worked then everyone would be mute. You learn as you go. Its a process. I am nominating your original post because its such an important piece to the puzzle of attraction. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/optimal-preformance-out-of-mones/56494/7 "2012-08-24T10:58:56Z")
Thank you! It is very flattering to be nominated, especially from such a well versed person. And that dictionary analogy is priceless! ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 12:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/optimal-preformance-out-of-mones/56494/8 "2012-08-25T12:26:57Z")
To support my little theory/findings I wore a mix to a party: [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) (Many sprays over the night) P83 20 Mcg P75 5 Mcg Some of the ladies were so-so. Sure, they noticed me, but the TYPE of girl the mix woulkd attract, a blonde party-girl, was hooked. When ever I was not being social she would ask why I was not being fun anymore and would try to get the ball rolling. The mix was so blatantly effective because it attracts that type of woman. On other girls, including studious Asians, younger brunette girls, and conservative blondes were not effected in the same manor. I love looking at things in this dimension. When going out to a party, you wear a party mix such as the one aforementioned and it will get you the person who is attracted to it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnM)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 11:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/optimal-preformance-out-of-mones/56494/9 "2012-08-26T11:24:39Z")
> [@](#): > > One thing I see people mention is hair color. Just for the sake of clarity hair color has little to do with chemical attraction especially in this day and age wear most people alter there natural color. The fact that woman can alter their haircolor doesn’t mean that it’s irrelevant. Conscious choices of another person illuminate their personality. A woman who colors their hair blond will get slightly different reactions from the people around her. If she likes those reactions she will keep her hair color. If she doesn’t like them she will switch her hair color back. ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 12:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/optimal-preformance-out-of-mones/56494/10 "2012-08-26T12:12:00Z")
> [@JohnM](#): > > The fact that woman can alter their haircolor doesn’t mean that it’s irrelevant. Conscious choices of another person illuminate their personality. > > A woman who colors their hair blond will get slightly different reactions from the people around her. If she likes those reactions she will keep her hair color. If she doesn’t like them she will switch her hair color back. That is true, you bring up a fantastic point on attraction. Tisha was speaking upon chemical attraction, what a woman cant change. All PUA and Game solicitation centers around the chemical reaction by nature, to spark attraction. They do exploit the avenues of a womans experiences to skip ahead quicker but the ‘systems’ they all use derive from the chemical aspect. Reference experience is what gives a woman confidence, and what forms a person’s personality. It speaks volumes to a persons personality in how they want the world to see them. Changing hair color is an indicator of personal expression and can be used with baseline knowledge of human psychology to know how to best react to an individual. This is much further down our proverbial rabbit hole on how to tailor mones for an individual. If I know a woman dyed her hair from blonde to brunette, I know that she did not like being seen as a blonde. Blondes are characterized with the characteristics of Vigor and being Outgoing. Stereotypically they are also seen as less intelligent. This is primarily due to the health status of natural blondes. Natural blondes have their hair darken as they age, so a natural blonde is biologically seen as healthier, younger. It displays all the right biological characterisitcs to be a blonde. You are the center of attention, young and healthy. This leads to objectification as a reaction to the biological precursor of being young. A person who change hair color is attempting to channel the characteristics on some level of those of that natural distinction. For Mone use, and human psychology sake, Red-heads are the hardest to pin down. Society has pinned down a red head as bold and sexual. BUT, genetically they are either repulsive or attractive to an individual. Women who dye their hair red either want to not be objectified any longer or capture the positive associations with the hair color. In some areas, especially the UK, Red hair is common, so dying your hair red can be a sign of wanting to fit in, where as in the US, for example,. is a way to make yourself stand out. The markers of chemical attraction are much more black and white than those of human developmental science and how reference experiences mold a personality. For that reason it is almost impossible to use this as a litmus test for mones as each person and each targets conditioning changes the results.