# Order arrived, help needed! **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 18, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-help-needed/29975 "2009-06-18T14:53:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CHILL123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CHILL123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CHILL123)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-help-needed/29975/1 "2009-06-18T14:53:32Z")
Hi everyone, first post.๐Ÿ™‚ Heres a little info about me, im bisexual but more attracted to females.I have explained more in the introduction section. My situation is im interested in a girl who I become pretty close with. she says shes straight but wouldnt mind goin with a girl. We are stuck on the friend stage at the moment. I have been recomended instant sexyness a, instant honesty. my order arrived with a free gift of cttm. I currently have instant shine ammo instant honesty instant sexyness a cttm can someone please advise on what mix to use when im around her.๐Ÿ˜• I am seeing her tommorow with a few other friends, we just gonna hang out and have a sleep over at my place. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-help-needed/29975/2 "2009-06-18T14:58:26Z")
IS/A, every time ๐Ÿ˜ƒ read up on it, be congruent with the persona and go with it. However, if you want obvious effects that you can see, start with the I Shine. Youโ€™ll be smiling like a cheshire cat within seconds. ---
**Author:** ![CHILL123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CHILL123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CHILL123)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-help-needed/29975/3 "2009-06-18T15:21:48Z")
can I use instant honesty and come talk to me together? or are theymore or less the same thing? ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-help-needed/29975/4 "2009-06-18T16:24:08Z")
No reason why you couldnโ€™t but Iโ€™m not sure it would gain anything. There are two main androstenol (communication) [pheromones](https://a314.com/) used here. Alpha androstenol (alphanol) and beta androstenol (betanol) alphanol basically encourages communication quantity, betanol encourages depth of conversation. IO is basically 70% alphanol and 30%betanol IH is 30% alphanol and 30% betanol, CTTM2 is 50/50 so, if you were to use equal quantities of IH and CTTM2, you would effectively have a 60/40 split, is that 10% swing going to make a huge difference, I donโ€™t know but it might be a useful experiment? ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-help-needed/29975/5 "2009-06-18T18:22:58Z")
๐Ÿ™‚ heya! Bi-girl here too try this ammo 1-2 sprays 1 to wrists and one to chest or neck layer over it with 2 sprays instant honesty and wear 1 spray instant openness in your hair. My best gf hit on me pretty hard the day I wore this mix I should really wear it again.Uber cutie ๐Ÿ™‚ but like your girly you like mostly straight. Slowly but surely makin headway with that one. ๐Ÿ™‚ Something else thatโ€™s a good idea to do is go perfume shopping with the girl in question and let her pick one she likes on you if youโ€™re going to be wearing pheros around her. Androtics products donโ€™t stink but my best gf likes it better when I wear a perfume cover. Although shes loooves the grapefruit scent. ๐Ÿ™‚ Oh and mx135 is almost a sleepover party mx for girls w a status lift too it may be good with ammo. Dunno yet ๐Ÿ™‚ if you try it and it works nice let me know. Cttm is pretty good on its own with ammo in the 2-3 spray range ๐Ÿ™‚ Is/a is nice for self effects but I havent had any female hits with it yet. Just DIHL from guys. ---
**Author:** ![CHILL123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CHILL123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CHILL123)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 12:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-help-needed/29975/6 "2009-06-19T12:17:29Z")
Thank u diamond and electracomplex for your replies.๐Ÿ™‚ well explained diamond bout the difference. I will try the suggested mixes. Will report back on what mix i used and the effects.๐Ÿ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-help-needed/29975/7 "2009-06-21T15:09:36Z")
Just curious. Why [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)? ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-help-needed/29975/8 "2009-06-21T15:12:01Z")
Iโ€™ve had the most consistent positive female responses with ammo + she happens to have it on hand which makes life easier for her. IJ and IG havenโ€™t really gotten any female hits for me at all. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-help-needed/29975/9 "2009-06-21T15:15:25Z")
> [@ElectraComplex](#): > > Iโ€™ve had the most consistent positive female responses with ammo + she happens to have it on hand which makes life easier for her. IJ and IG havenโ€™t really gotten any female hits for me at all. Positive female responses? Psh, Idk why Iโ€™d need that ๐Ÿ˜› All I need is a man ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-help-needed/29975/10 "2009-06-21T15:52:32Z")
Lol, I have both and do my best to keep them happy. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-help-needed/29975/11 "2009-06-21T16:38:02Z")
> [@ElectraComplex](#): > > Lol, I have both and do my best to keep them happy. Maybe Iโ€™ll try Ammo sometime if Iโ€™m making a party mix ---
**Author:** ![CHILL123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CHILL123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CHILL123)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 10:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-help-needed/29975/12 "2009-06-22T10:48:26Z")
Hi there, sorry for posting late ๐Ÿ™‚ Reporting back on my mix. **Situation:** At an social event with my target girl. I was the videographer and she was the dj. also wid a couple of friends. **Mix i used** : 1x cttm on wrist 1x instant honesty on the other wrist and 1x on hair 1x instant sexyness on chest, 1x hair ๐Ÿ˜‰ 1x instant shine on forearm ๐Ÿ™‚ **Effect:** on me: I felt reli gud and calm on her: I noticed her standing pretty close to me and was more talkative than usual. I also noticed her looking at me. everytime I glanced round to look at her she would be lookin at me and then give me a smile, not flirty just normal. That carried on throughout the evening. I did top the products after 2 hours. I continuesd to use the mix for the next 2 days I was with her. I havent reli been alone with her cos we have been surrounded by friends, but the effects on her were the same. She does want to see me more often than we used to and I forgot to mention shes more polite with me for example she told me to pass her bag to her first she said " could you pass me my bag" then after a short pause quickly said โ€œpleaseโ€๐Ÿ˜• she kept on saying things like that. Anyway is there any other products anyone can suggest?๐Ÿ˜ƒ Im am going to see her today hopefully on her own. Will report back.๐Ÿ™‚