# Order arrived: three days wearing all four around women at work, minimal hits

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 1, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313 "2009-07-01T22:53:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![DaveB78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@DaveB78](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DaveB78)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/1 "2009-07-01T22:53:41Z")

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I will report any reactions that occur tommorow and through the weekend…working everyday and part of Sat night…will be exposed to many females of all ages, and ethnicities…

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**Author:** ![Vangelis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vangelis/32/598_2.png) [@Vangelis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vangelis)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/2 "2009-07-02T13:06:35Z")

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> [@DaveB78](#):
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> I will report any reactions that occur tommorow and through the weekend…working everyday and part of Sat night…will be exposed to many females of all ages, and ethnicities…

May the force be with you. Enjoy playing for the first couple of weeks with no expectations. Learn what each one those to you and for you,and how to wear them congruently.

I am PM you with some… news 😉

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**Author:** ![DaveB78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@DaveB78](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DaveB78)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/3 "2009-07-02T23:41:07Z")

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Well, first day in the hopper…pretty uneventful…had some of all 4 on…thanks for the considerate bonus of Instant honesty…Must work because I had a Korean guy tell me about a failed real estate project…normally my Korean customers keep their business very close to the vest…possibly some favorable responses from women…not much more than I usually get with a smile, but maybe just a bit more…will change things up a bit tomorrow…

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**Author:** ![DaveB78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@DaveB78](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DaveB78)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 4:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/4 "2009-07-05T04:29:17Z")

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After three days…hits are minimal…one very likely hit yesterday…today zip, nada, nunco…

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**Author:** ![Vangelis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vangelis/32/598_2.png) [@Vangelis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vangelis)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/5 "2009-07-05T16:29:36Z")

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> [@DaveB78](#):
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> After three days…hits are minimal…one very likely hit yesterday…today zip, nada, nunco…

Which products do you have? What dosage have you tried so far?

The good news is that as we grow older it seems we can hold and carry well higher dosages than younger fellows (ex. It is hard for someone in the early 20s to run away with more than 1 or 2 drops of A314). On the other hand, we have to compensate for all that -none that we are not producing anymore (-none is part of AMMO, TUTH and Instant Jerk).

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**Author:** ![DaveB78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@DaveB78](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DaveB78)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/6 "2009-07-05T17:39:18Z")

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[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), Instant Openess, Instant Honesty and TUTH in varying order of application and mixtures…going to try just IG tonight…

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**Author:** ![DaveB78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@DaveB78](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DaveB78)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/7 "2009-07-06T03:33:25Z")

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Couple of certain hits tonight…unfortunately, one was the 16 year old neice of the target…not much from the target, but the neice yes…the other was from a early twenties Asian customer…note, that both of these occured after applying TUTH in addition to the IG I had put on earlier.

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**Author:** ![Vangelis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vangelis/32/598_2.png) [@Vangelis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vangelis)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/8 "2009-07-06T15:04:05Z")

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> [@DaveB78](#):
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> Couple of certain hits tonight…unfortunately, one was the 16 year old neice of the target…not much from the target, but the neice yes…the other was from a early twenties Asian customer…note, that both of these occured after applying TUTH in addition to the IG I had put on earlier.

How old was you target?

I haven’t figure out TUTH yet, it makes my targets sleepy and mellow.

By the way: Touchdown! 😉 However she said something after the “score” was registered: “Did you put a drug on you? I just feel relaxed, nicely relaxed”. I thought to myself: “Yes, two sprays of TUTH”, of course I only looked at her with a tender smile and blinked an eye.

So, reading you, it makes me wonder what would happen if I ware TUTH with younger ladies. Maybe, what people noticed about Instant Gentelman is true for many other products. Meaning, the effect that it brings to a younger man becomes the opposite for a more mature guy. I know AMMO worked great one day for me with two Cougars but scared the shit out of the real target who was 23.

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**Author:** ![Vangelis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vangelis/32/598_2.png) [@Vangelis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vangelis)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/9 "2009-07-06T15:14:38Z")

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Two other pieces of info:

Touchdown lady is in her early 40’s

Two weeks ago, I got into the red zone with a “friend” at my place. In preparation for the evening I sprayed a mix of AMMO and Shine into the evening, once in and about to score, I went into the washroom (got two sprays of TUTH) and when I came back for second and third down is when she got into the mellow - cuddle mood. Keeping the football metaphor, I guess I got to fourth down and was forced to go for the field goal. 😠

My reflection that day was if I had OD as I wonder if I am using TUTH the right way…

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**Author:** ![DaveB78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@DaveB78](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DaveB78)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/10 "2009-07-11T01:23:34Z")

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Well, I am back a square one…have used the 4 items in my order in all combinations and seperately…not much to report…my two primary targets seem totally indifferent…that is, they are no more or less friendly/affectionate with the [pheromones](https://a314.com/) than without…the one positive is that young Asians seem to perk up. My two targets are both white, mid to late 30s one is from Georgia…the country and the other is from Georgia…the state…one is brunette/brown, the other blonde/blue…So, I am open to suggestions…really would like to reel one or the other in…I need some “Instant Panty Dropper”…What say ye?

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**Author:** ![M\_P](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/m_p/32/1633_2.png) [@M\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_P)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/11 "2009-07-11T04:13:29Z")

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Are these women your friends, or pretty much strangers?

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**Author:** ![DaveB78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@DaveB78](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DaveB78)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/12 "2009-07-11T04:30:06Z")

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Friendly acquaintences would be the most accurate description.

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**Author:** ![DaveB78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@DaveB78](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DaveB78)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/13 "2009-07-11T04:35:32Z")

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My goal with each is to have them initiate the action…relationship at this point is just friendly normal conversation. As I am older that either of them, by some years, I prefer that they make the first move toward a more intimate relationship.

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**Author:** ![M\_P](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/m_p/32/1633_2.png) [@M\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_P)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/14 "2009-07-11T04:36:58Z")

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> [@DaveB78](#):
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> Friendly acquaintences would be the most accurate description.

The reason I asked is because when someone already knows you, they are already familiar with your [pheromone](https://a314.com/) signature, which means that when you change it abruptly like that, it’s going to take a bit of time to sink in.

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**Author:** ![Vangelis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vangelis/32/598_2.png) [@Vangelis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vangelis)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/order-arrived-three-days-wearing-all-four-around-women-at-work-minimal-hits/30313/15 "2009-07-11T16:36:21Z")

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> [@DaveB78](#):
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> My goal with each is to have them initiate the action… As I am older that either of them, by some years, I prefer that they make the first move toward a more intimate relationship.

What M\_P said is really important to take in consideration.

On top of that, basing myself on what you mentioned on you presentation, the rules of the game have been enhanced from the old good days. This new game is better as it has more permeable boundaries for the savvy. However, the longer you stay in relationship, even as an acquaintance, the more astute you have to be to set the bait.

See, you are expecting them to do the first move. I would say, they have done it already, consciously or unconsciously, they did something to attract you, just given the fact that you are thinking of the two of them and paying no attention to the others (ex. the asian lady that gave you IOIs). So, the ball is in your court now and you have to do something to attract them, and pheros is part of that move. Basically what you want to do now is “reciprocate” and put out some attraction factors. For me the key is to play what you seem to think is a restriction into a strength.

What a lady will find attractive in an older guy?. History is full of men dating really younger women, just think about Celine Dion and her man as a quick example.

Three things to share:

a) Dosage is key. You just mentioned you’ve tried them all, and then mixes but how much of what is not clear.

b) Start a new thread with more concrete questions, so you attract the right people in the forum to give you advice. Ex. How to attract younger women when you are older than them? There are many in this forum doing that, they will show up if you let them know you are looking for them.

The ball went thorugh the goal line for the second time and yesterday i just lost it in the red zone. I got so fast to the red zone thanks to the mix I was carrying that once again, I couldn’t belive my eyes. However, as in football, in the game of life the more you get to the red zone the better chances you have to score. Next time, I’ll score, certainly. By the way, I am talking of a different one here.

c) Pheros work when you understand what they do and how to carry them congruently. So, be sure if this women are getting a congruent message. Ex. Suddenly your -none has increased but you still behave as a mainly -nol guy meaning there’s not an increase in “assertiveness” (just for example as polite way to refer to that high -none vibe)… hmmm… there’s a mismatch. Guys in their 20’s they have a lot of -none, you show them some flesh and their best friend underneath the belt zone starts doing some handstands, hence they put a lot of energy forward. The advantage that comes with age is that one learns how to start channeling and allowing it in the right dosage through the right path. Like Judo or Aikido, use the forces in your favor with the least effort , hence resistance.
