# Origin of Pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 12, 2010, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266 "2010-06-12T04:26:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/1 "2010-06-12T04:26:29Z")
Hi guys I was jus curious to know, what are the mones made out of? Vegetable? Mineral? People? Are they synthetic compounds or extracts of natural herbs? P.S not looking for trade secrets here, jus wanna know (for eg) if they’re kosher or something ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/2 "2010-06-12T04:35:04Z")
The ones sold here are synthetic I believe. [Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) themselves are hormones or metabolite/derivatives of hormones (outside the body they’re called pheromones, inside they’re called hormones) They’re secreted from the body through sweat and urine and as hormone derivatives they communicate facts about ourselves. A young college football player will likely have high testosterone levels and thus a high androstenone signature…thus communicating that he’s a young big strong guy that would produce strong offspring. ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 8:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/3 "2010-06-12T08:02:01Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > The ones sold here are synthetic. thanks that’s exactly wat I wanna know ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 8:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/4 "2010-06-12T08:13:25Z")
AD mones are all natural, harvested from teenagers in sweatshops in SW Asian and West Africa. One of the most famous is located just outside Bangkok, affectionally referred to as the “CopShop” by locals. Rest assured the gathering techniques are painless and hygiene, and no underage children are involved as donors or harvesters. ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 8:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/5 "2010-06-12T08:20:57Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > AD mones are all natural, harvested from teenagers in sweatshops in SW Asian and West Africa. One of the most famous is located just outside Bangkok, affectionally referred to as the “CopShop” by locals. Rest assured the gathering techniques are painless and hygiene, and no underage children are involved as donors or harvesters. U sure Thats not where Pherlure get their source? Lol ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/6 "2010-06-12T15:05:36Z")
LMAO gotta love gegogi’s responses ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 9:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/7 "2010-06-13T09:40:48Z")
> [@ami81](#): > > Hi guys > > I was jus curious to know, what are the mones made out of? > > Vegetable? Mineral? People? > > Are they synthetic compounds or extracts of natural herbs? > > P.S not looking for trade secrets here, jus wanna know (for eg) if they’re kosher or something It depends on the molecule but most the stuff here is synthetic. Musks and some natural organic molecules are also used. All of them are made in the USA which is extremely important with [pheromone](https://a314.com/) use. Only the purist and highest quality is used which is a tiny part of the reason so much is out of stock. Androtics wont settle for selling you crap just to make money. So no need to worry, no one is handing out paper cups or collecting body fluids here. 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 1:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/8 "2010-06-13T13:29:15Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > It depends on the molecule but most the stuff here is synthetic. Musks and some natural organic molecules are also used. All of them are made in the USA which is extremely important with pheromone use. Only the purist and highest quality is used which is a tiny part of the reason so much is out of stock. Androtics wont settle for selling you crap just to make money. > > So no need to worry, no one is handing out paper cups or collecting body fluids here. 😉 > > Tisha Lol thanks for the clarification Tisha perhaps I’ll be more direct in my question. I was thinking of recommending mones to my frens but some of my mates can’t come into contact with products of beef origin, pig origin n even any animal origin. From ur post perhaps I can confirm that the musk used are of deer origin only? Thanks again =D ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/9 "2010-06-13T19:43:04Z")
> [@ami81](#): > > I was thinking of recommending mones to my frens but some of my mates can’t come into contact with products of beef origin, pig origin n even any animal origin. > > From ur post perhaps I can confirm that the musk used are of deer origin only? Chemically mones are exactly the same regardless of origin (if pure of course). Androstenone is found in pigs, cats, humans, etc., yet has the same molecular structure. Like most fragrances–save the most ultra expensive–artificial mones are created from petroleum distillates. So that black shit that gushes out of the ground and, unfortunately, Gulf of Mexico. I suppose if your mates are extreme zealots, petroleum distillates may be questionable. After all, oil crude is made from dead plants, insects and animals that died millions of years ago. So undoubtably there is some highly transformed animal matter in there. Scary scary… ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/10 "2010-06-13T23:13:19Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Like most fragrances–save the most ultra expensive–artificial mones are created from petroleum distillates. So that black shit that gushes out of the ground and, unfortunately, Gulf of Mexico. I suppose if your mates are extreme zealots, petroleum distillates may be questionable. After all, oil crude is made from dead plants, insects and animals that died millions of years ago. So undoubtably there is some highly transformed animal matter in there. Scary scary… lol got ur point thanks ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/11 "2010-06-13T23:20:37Z")
_ **Cholesterol is the starting point for bio-synthesis of steroids in the human body. That includes testosterone and estrogens. From these, pheromones are created.** _ _ **That is, if one excludes copulins.** _ _ **How it is done in the lab, I don’t know, but I’d suspect most synthesis recipes start with** _ Cholesterol too. * * * ---
**Author:** ![peregrine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/peregrine/32/499_2.png) [@peregrine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/peregrine)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/12 "2010-06-13T23:38:41Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > AD mones are all natural, harvested from teenagers in sweatshops in SW Asian and West Africa. One of the most famous is located just outside Bangkok, affectionally referred to as the “CopShop” by locals. Rest assured the gathering techniques are painless and hygiene, and no underage children are involved as donors or harvesters. AD is out of a lot of products right now due to the sweatshop they bought from in Brooklyn getting raided last month. I used to be a sweatshop inspector for AD but was let go for being “too balls deep in the job.” I now fill my days extracting pheromones from a rare breed of Filipino cow vagina. Ah those were the days. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/13 "2010-06-14T03:14:01Z")
> [@Whitehall](#): > > _ **Cholesterol is the starting point for bio-synthesis of steroids in the human body. That includes testosterone and estrogens. From these, pheromones are created.** _ > > _ **That is, if one excludes copulins.** _ > > \*\*\*How it is done in the lab, I don’t know, but I’d suspect most synthesis recipes start with \*\*\*_ **Cholesterol too.** _ i wonder will the _Health Conscious Users_, count these into their cholesterol intake 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 10:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/14 "2010-06-14T10:04:51Z")
> [@](#): > > From ur post perhaps I can confirm that the musk used are of deer origin only? Musk is a strong binding scent that comes from the glands of certain animals including humans. Its used in pretty much all perfumes. Jasmin never indicated what animal but I am guessing civet. The pheromones are all human though. Musk is just used to bind and help create sillage. > [@Jasmin](#): > > You can make anything unscented in the custom order lab. We’ll never sell consumer products that are unscented, much like Apple won’t sell anything without a power cord, until the world gets a lot more sophisticated. Human pheromones really need the animal type **musk** molcules (real or synthetic) to give them more reach. Animals molecules travel a long distance, human don’t. Also, a lot of human pheromones kind of stink. Human pheromones without some sort of masking scent aren’t very consumer friendly in the “just works” sort of way. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/origin-of-pheromones/39266/15 "2010-06-14T23:25:52Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Musk is a strong binding scent that comes from the glands of certain animals including humans. Its used in pretty much all perfumes. > > Jasmin never indicated what animal but I am guessing civet. The pheromones are all human though. Musk is just used to bind and help create sillage. > > Tisha Cool, thanks for the info. most of the technical jargon was lost on me tho (i flunk Chem lol) but i do understand the sweatshop parts 😛