# Ormus - Monoatomic minerals

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**Created:** [October 20, 2007, 2:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128 "2007-10-20T14:14:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 2:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128/1 "2007-10-20T14:14:39Z")

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Well, i re started a superfood diet of only RAW foods with all its thousands of photochemicals and **ormus minerals** intact (ORMES, orbitaly rearanged monoatomic elements, minerals that are partly in another dimension hidden between carbon atoms that vary in weight depending on their temperature which makes them shift from one dimension to another.) These minerals are highly present in your brain matter and nervous system. When you cook food or are exposed to an X ray, all your ormus minerals just fall out of your body or the food that was cooked, microwaves remove it too. Also, you destroy most proteins, vitamins, glyconutrients, enzymes, fats, carbs and turn them into something toxic. All those lost substances explain why 1/2 of all people will get cancer, everyone is going crazy, people are sick all over, obese people are all over the place, man wasn’t born with a microwave and an oven attached to his back. Cooking is ONLY a food preservation technologies that keeps the food “edible” for longer because it kills the food so other organisms like bacteria cant eat it because its dead and cant support life.

Man is my nervous system strong right now.

Anyways, the high ormus mineral content of all my raw super high quality bee products has been giving me really crazy insights into the future as where other humans will move to, what they will say, what fights will break lose, who is really my friend, what friends will abandon me, how i will succeed. And tons of crazy other things.

It was funny how, even the other day i was in a bus and i kept feeling a fight coming(people asked me how i knew there was going to be a fight the next day), i told the driver to drop me off in the middle of the street anywhere and i would walk home. The next morning i heard that there was a huge fist fight, 5 cop cars 2 guys knocked out 5 wounded.

If your interested in ormus gold, here is one of the products i recommend: [Sunfood Nutrition™ - The World’s Leading Source for Superfoods and Natural Lifestyle Products!](http://www.sunfood.com/cgi-bin/order/index.cgi?id=7803966519-2240&d=single&item_id=1252&c=Misc&sc=Minerals&tc=)

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**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 2:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128/2 "2007-10-20T14:16:26Z")

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The properties of Ormus gold have been anecdotally reported to include:

•Increased spiritual consciousness and psychic phenomenon.  
•Boosted neurotransmitter production.  
•Increased dream lucidity.  
•Anti-aging characteristics.  
•Increased metabolic rate and cell rejuvenation.

Hell yhea. 100% True.

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**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128/3 "2007-10-20T21:47:05Z")

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Gold is interesting… appears to have powerful anti-inflammation effects… DON’T take anything from the “platinum series” of the periodic table though, such as nano-platinum, nano-palladium, or nano-iridium… there is some concern that these may be damaging to brain cells… (platinum is used as a cell toxin in anti-cancer chemotherapies)…

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**Author:** ![chads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@chads](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chads)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128/4 "2007-10-21T08:57:12Z")

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Didn’t that David Hudson guy get sued for treating people with this and killing them?

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**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 12:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128/5 "2007-10-21T12:28:34Z")

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You can actually get this stuff? I heard about it when I was reading a series of books by Laurence Gardner, who wrote the Bloodline of the Holy Grail, Genesis of the Grail Kings and others. “Kings” goes into a lot of detail about monatomic gold and other platinum metals, and fantastic detail too, in every sense of the word “fantastic”.

The author is also supposed to be experimenting with the monatomic gold himself. He is said to be interested in living as long as the original Anunnaki rulers in Sumerian mythology. You might want to look him up and read what he says about it. Food of the Gods, literally. The first human kings and rulers of Mankind were supposed to have eaten it to heighten their mental abilities.

Let me know where you get it from. I’d be interested in getting hold of some of these monatomic materials for my own research.

Musk

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**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 12:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128/6 "2007-10-21T12:41:53Z")

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> [@chads](#):
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> Didn’t that David Hudson guy get sued for treating people with this and killing them?

HUH?.. nope.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128/7 "2007-10-21T17:07:41Z")

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Is this about sungazing? Cause that’s what I found about ormus so far.. probably it’s something else but who knows..

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**Author:** ![chads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@chads](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chads)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128/8 "2007-10-21T19:00:10Z")

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Here is the article.

The following articles appeared last week in the Arizona Republic Phoenix  
Gazette.

\ ***First Article**  
May have helped speed death  
AIDS specialist’s fate decided today by review board

by Susan Leonard Staff writer

It all started out innocently enough.

Leslie Burroughs wanted to have a baby, so she underwent artificial  
insemination.

During the procedure, she contracted the virus that causes AIDS, and that  
eventually led her to a Mesa osteopath, Dr. David Payne-and an alternative  
treatment that may have contributed to her death at age 40.

Payne’s professional future is to be decided today by the Arizona Board of  
Osteopathic Examiners.

Payne, one of only a handful of local doctors who specialize in treating HIV  
and AIDS, have been accused by a board hearing officer of being blinded by  
_flimflam_ in the Burroughs case.

The hearing officer recommended that Payne receive probation and censure. Or  
the board could take no action, suspend Payne or yank his license.

Payne’s critics say he was wrong to inform Burroughs about a mysterious  
substance, developed by a Laveen farmer, that had not been approved by the  
FDA.

But Payne’s defenders say that he is compassionate and that doctors should be  
able to tell desperate patients about alternative treatments.

Harold Merkow, who presided over the hearing, concluded that Payne _engaged  
in unprofessional conduct_ and _abandoned scientific rigor in favor of  
flimflam_.

But Merkow also noted in a report to the osteopathic board that Payne has  
made many _contributions to the profession_ and that his conduct was _more  
isolated than general_.

Burrough’s husband, William, said his late wife was a well-liked vivacious  
woman who worked at a plant nursery.

After she contracted HIV in the early 1980’s, William Burroughs said, they  
were in denial for years because she seemed so healthy.

But as the years went by, they started searching for doctors and treatments.  
Burroughs contacted Payne in 1993. By then, Payne said, Leslie Burroughs had  
developed AIDS.

Payne said she told him that she had used alternative therapies and was  
desperately looking for more.

_The patient was very ill, and she begged me to find her something that would  
help her,_ he said.

Payne said he told Burroughs about several alternative therapies, including  
an experimental substance discovered by Laveen framer David Hudson that  
Hudson manufactured in a building at his farm.

Payne said he told the Burroughses about the unusual manufacturing  
facilities.  
_They were well aware this was not a standard laboratory,_ he said.

Payne said he did not prescribe the substance but acted as a messenger who  
transferred it from Hudson to Burroughs. She took it orally for about 30 days  
without a response.

On Feb. 12, 1994, she took it intravenously with her husband’s help, and  
within two hours, she began having fevers, chills and nausea. She later had  
seizures, fell unconscious and went into a coma.

She died March 24, 1994, without regaining consciousness.

In the meantime, two doctors involved in her treatment after Feb. 12, 1994,  
filed complaints with the osteopathic board. One doctor said he could find  
_no known use_ for Hudson’s substance in the treatment of HIV and believed  
Burroughs’ seizures were related to it.

After his wife’s death, William Burroughs sued Hudson, who settled with him  
out of court.

Hudson has declined to reveal specific details about his substance but refers  
to it as _orbitally rearranged monoatomic elements,_ primarily iridium and  
rhodium.

Payne said he provided the substance to two people with no bad consequences  
and tested it on a dog so ill with valley fever that it could not get up.

_We gave him that stuff, and the dog was running around like a puppy,_ Payne  
said.

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**Author:** ![Dr.PJ](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dr.pj/32/1250_2.png) [@Dr.PJ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dr.PJ)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 7:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128/9 "2007-10-25T07:27:04Z")

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Well, it looks like we are starting to jump a little into my field. I’ve heard of monoatomic elements. I refined some of the material for testing myself. I also made a vortex tube to try the water that is suppose to be monoatomically charged.

With the vortex tube, it mostly ionized the water (which is still good) but it had the added effect of making me lighter. I was literally loosing weight, while I was gaining mass. My friend had brought deer steaks from the mountains and I was nearly eating a deer steak almost everyday. So I wasn’t shrinking, just growing horizontally. The Gold method actually caused me to burn body fat at an incredible rate.

As for Laurance, be careful with such claims. I’ve always been leery towards pseudo-archaeology. Laurance has a few facts that are pretty right on, but sometimes he adds some bits for his own gumption. Heaven forbid that David Icke is just plain crazy. As for Laurance, he is right about the Bloodline of the Elves. I’ve done extensive research on the mythology of the Tuatha De Dannan, and the Albi. Laurance will never recreat that lively-hood. He claims to be a member of the Dragon Court, a sort of Knights Round dedicated to the recover of the Holy Grail. He’s part of no such order, and the order he claims to be a member of doesn’t exist, and is mostly made up of him and his close friends.

If you have any questions regarding my experiments, or my findings, please don’t hesitate to drop me a line, or PM me anytime.

Sincerely,  
Dr. PJ

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**Author:** ![Fra\_Septimus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fra_septimus/32/692_2.png) [@Fra\_Septimus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fra_Septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128/10 "2007-10-26T01:39:30Z")

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I googled this, and there are a number of places that sell m-state and monoatomic minerals. Most have a lot of new-age mumbo-jumbo on the web sites (take two capsules reverently 😛 ) and so on.

They’re pricey, kinda like some of the phero products we all love 😉 , so without some more information it would be a lot like using the experimones: try it and see what happens.😕

Also, some of the products will no doubt be scams, while the others might be authentic (if any of them are 🙄 ). So, if anyone on the forum here has specific brands and vendors that they’ve tried, that would be helpful in deciding whether to fork over fifty to a hundred bucks.😮

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**Author:** ![Dr.PJ](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dr.pj/32/1250_2.png) [@Dr.PJ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dr.PJ)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128/11 "2007-10-26T05:14:36Z")

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Make it yourself. Don’t buy the material from vendors. Always make it yourself. It will always be cheaper, and for those superstitious inclined, it is only “attuned” to the maker’s energy blah blah blah. So make it yourself or be contaminated with the energies of another person.

I’ve found that it’s just cheaper to make yourself anyways.

Sincerely,  
Dr. PJ

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**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128/12 "2007-10-26T05:33:12Z")

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Here’s one about monoatomic gold and it’s in the realms of conspiracy corner.

[Mono Atomic Gold -Think Twice](http://educate-yourself.org/cn/monoatomicgoldthinktwice15aug05.shtml)

I’ve read about it before. Wouldn’t mind trying it out.

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**Author:** ![Dr.PJ](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dr.pj/32/1250_2.png) [@Dr.PJ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dr.PJ)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128/13 "2007-10-26T14:12:28Z")

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Well, I read the article all the way through. Wow. Ten virtual DNA? I’m sorry, but not only was the article rife with biased and unproven claims, but it all around reaked of superstition.

The decline of “powers” as they so claim, but more importantly the decline of the benefits of ORMUS are well within a logical frame. We deal with positive ions and radiated food all the time. These effects are well known to destroy DNA. Is it possible that the ORMUS is not a one shot deal, but has to be taken repeatedly to offset the effects of the positive ion destruction to our DNA? One cannot simply sit on their rump and expect to get better. ORMUS is not a panacea, it requires some effort.

My personal favorite, a Roman Empire plot. Nice. This article shouldn’t be taken too seriously as I suspect the author not only hasn’t investigated any of their claims, but merely strung a whole bunch of paranoid ideas together.

Sincerely,  
Dr. PJ

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**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ormus-monoatomic-minerals/6128/14 "2007-10-26T18:23:22Z")

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But the illuminati want to destroy your virtual strands of DNA so you can’t ascend to the 4th dimension! 🙂 haha
