# Our Friend tacitus - RIP 12/2010 - A compilation of brilliant and exhilarating posts **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [January 15, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/our-friend-tacitus-rip-12-2010-a-compilation-of-brilliant-and-exhilarating-posts/44612 "2011-01-15T16:38:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/our-friend-tacitus-rip-12-2010-a-compilation-of-brilliant-and-exhilarating-posts/44612/1 "2011-01-15T16:38:42Z")
Tribulation it is to have such a shining star hidden from view Afflictions seem unimportant in a moment when life should be celebrated Candor in the most flattering of ways yet reserved for the few Inundated with insights seen by the naked eye but only perceived with intricate tenacity Teaming with the sense of wonder that of the most inquisitive child Unwavering eye to see the world for what it is for better or worse Singularly a man among men, a intellectual among intellectuals Reverence that can only be thought of as amorphous Esteemed by many for the mere strokes of his fingers Signified not only by his grace of articulation but by the very ideas he instilled Tremors I feel for an individual that made me oooo and ahhhh without so much as a facial expression or a word off his lips Indebted I am to my mere thoughts that only he could decipher Needless to say he will be sorely missed but men like him are immortal as ideas can never be killed or destroyed Pray I do for grieving friends and family Ever hopeful that they cherish his memory not dwelling on his passing Acclimation can never be fully achieved but with time it gets easier Consideration of others I will continue to employ in honor of him Every comfort possible up there I wish for you my friend I wish I could send you flowers and I know you might not have access to a computer but this will have to do. You inspire me as an individual and as a phero user. Although your not with us anymore I will continue to take things in stride and beseech the wisdom superfluous in your posts. Your words brought clarity to my insanity and peace to places that I thought could only exist in war. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/our-friend-tacitus-rip-12-2010-a-compilation-of-brilliant-and-exhilarating-posts/44612/2 "2011-01-20T21:10:54Z")
Beautiful! I was thinking of making a thread dedicated to our friend tacitus so that we could all share our memories of him. A living memorial, a tribute to a legend, a dearly loved friend and inspiration to so many. I can think of no better way to start that memorial than with your beautiful poetic (perhaps tacitus inspired) reminder of how he impacted so many of us. For those who who did not know: tacitus passed from our world into the next: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sad-news-tacitus/44597](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sad-news-tacitus/44597) This thread is a memorial to his legend, how he impacted our lives. We started above by the beautiful, inspiring, emotional dedication, written by [Olfact Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/olfact_amorous/summary). Please feel free to add any comments you believe will further our “[pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/)” discussion below. Since this is the \*\*Pheromone Theory \*\*section of the forum I would request that any non-pheromone related personal messages be left in his forum obituary started by PheroQuirk in the lounge. I’m going to attempt to include a link to every thread started and/or contributed by tacitus here. [thundercat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thundercat/summary), very generously, has cataloged for download, all of his posts. I have copied his thread below from its original location in the obit and included it here. Thank you for everyone in helping memorialize our friend, mentor and shaman guide here.]([http://www.pheromonetalk.com/pheromone-users/olfact-amorous.html](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/olfact_amorous/summary)) ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/our-friend-tacitus-rip-12-2010-a-compilation-of-brilliant-and-exhilarating-posts/44612/3 "2011-01-20T21:57:36Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Beautiful! I was thinking of making a thread dedicated to our friend tacitus so that we could all share our memories of him. A living memorial, a tribute to a legend, a whisp in the wind, a glowing ember in the fire, a shinning star, a dearly loved friend and inspiration to so many. > > I can think of no better way to start that memorial than with your beautiful poetic (perhaps tacitus inspired) reminder of how he impacted so many of us. Would that be OK with you? Can I change the title to something along the lines of: > > **This is for you my friend: Tacitus - Our Memorial** > > Of course community input would be appreciated and requested 🙂 Thats fine with me. I wanted to be quiet about it before but considering everything and all the lovely outpour of condolences it would be an honor to use this thread in such a way. You have my blessing. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/our-friend-tacitus-rip-12-2010-a-compilation-of-brilliant-and-exhilarating-posts/44612/4 "2011-02-10T18:16:34Z")
Originally found in the obit thread [Sad news - tacitus - #25 by thundercat](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sad-news-tacitus/44597/25) > [@Sad news - tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sad-news-tacitus/44597/25): > > Archived all of tacitus’s reports and posts in a zip file > > Seperated and catalogged > \* > For a copy of the file send me a PM\* > > For some death is a tragedy and for others its a form of release, who knows what he was going through during his darkest hour. > > Rest in peace you will not be forgotten ---
**Author:** ![Androtics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Androtics](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Androtics)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/our-friend-tacitus-rip-12-2010-a-compilation-of-brilliant-and-exhilarating-posts/44612/5 "2011-02-10T18:16:50Z")
A link to every thread tacitus ever started: [Methoxy-EST, rather cool brew](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/methoxy-est-rather-cool-brew-there/84) [Instant Gentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman/90) [Sex-Mix Adventures](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-mix-adventures/91) [Psychomongo’s Devil Jism](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/psychomongos-devil-jism/142) [Minor store problem](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/minor-store-problem/181) [Psychological profile tool for DAS](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/psychological-profile-tool-for-das/82) [Article on Impulsive Behavior](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/article-on-impulsive-behavior/267) [TAA in sexmix](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-in-the-sexmix/198) [The orgasmatronic tension-release theory](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-orgasmatronic-tension-release-theory/359) [celebsexleatherfunkscenejive…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celebsexleatherfunkscenejive/292) [The slow diffusion matrix… continued…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-slow-diffusion-matrix-continued/340) [Iso E Super as a pheromone harmonizing ingredient](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iso-e-super-as-a-pheromone-harmonizing-ingredient/401) [Holy Schlabong! MORE putatives, will this ever end ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holy-schlabong-more-putatives-will-this-ever-end/468) [We’ve even toyed with silicon based pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weve-even-toyed-with-silicon-based-pheromones/331) [Long term preservation of partially filled bottles ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/long-term-preservation-of-partially-filled-bottles/180) [Another Supermix](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-supermix/404) [As for P87](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-for-p87/625) [When does the next round of putatives appear](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-does-the-next-round-of-putatives-appear/666) [P88… Comme des Garcons… scent markings..chocolate bars](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p88-comme-des-garcons-scent-markings-chocolate-bars/624) [Speak, Oh Mushroom God, of P79 !](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/speak-oh-mushroom-god-of-p79/299) [TAA + TAC + P74 makes women comfortable around men](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-tac-p74-makes-women-comfortable-around-men/661) [Could we try the Home, Country, and Apple Pie pheromone](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/could-we-try-the-home-country-and-apple-pie-pheromone/305) [The good Putatives so far](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-good-putatives-so-far/736) [Look out… about to test P83 thru P88](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/look-out-about-to-test-p83-thru-p88/611) [Love the blue spray bottles ! Would you sell empties ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-the-blue-spray-bottles-would-you-sell-empties/102) [P83… a nice little empathogen](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646) [P79 + P83 with bright shiny mones in the background](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p83-with-bright-shiny-mones-in-the-background/1176) [the inscrutability of p86](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-inscrutability-of-p86/630) [P93… yes, it exists… no, you can’t have it…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-yes-it-exists-no-you-cant-have-it/949) [My new supermix… the best balanced, most effective yet](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-new-supermix-the-best-balanced-most-effective-yet/1267) [A novel P81/P89 experience](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-novel-p81-p89-experience/1705) [Let 'er rip… inspired by MX172… but more so…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/let-er-rip-inspired-by-mx172-but-more-so/1878) [MEO-EST + TAF: Another unexpected result! CLEAN](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-taf-another-unexpected-result-clean/111) [P84… a juicier version of P85 ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p84-a-juicier-version-of-p85/636) [P87 + P88 as psychic empathic nuance builders](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p87-p88-as-psychic-empathic-nuance-builders/2130) [Advnaced carrier mixtures to deliver the goods](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advnaced-carrier-mixtures-to-deliver-the-goods/2463) [More hi performance communication swill](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advnaced-carrier-mixtures-to-deliver-the-goods/2463) [Pheros as (potentially intense) emotional growth accelerators](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-as-potentially-intense-emotional-growth-accelerators/2585) [P103 is Phun ! Whee ! Mindless Happiness!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-is-phun-whee-mindless-happiness/2605) [How to end the complicated relationship](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-end-the-complicated-relationship/2688) [aha… so this is an exercise machine ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aha-so-this-is-an-exercise-machine/2734) [Fragrances with food associations more popular ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fragrances-with-food-associations-more-popular/2932) [Another unexpected idea, why skin ages from sun exposure ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-unexpected-idea-why-skin-ages-from-sun-exposure/2957) [Initial TAK observation](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-tak-observation/95) [What’s the word on the mysterious TAC ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-word-on-the-mysterious-tac/105) [Aldamines, and the alchemy of eros…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aldamines-and-the-alchemy-of-eros/2956) [Getting what you pay for ? This is infuriating.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-what-you-pay-for-this-is-infuriating/3068) [Another reason to be VERY careful of whom you buy from…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-reason-to-be-very-careful-of-whom-you-buy-from/3507) [Getting your hypnosis products for exactly what you need](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-your-hypnosis-products-for-exactly-what-you-need/3517) [S. 762: A bill to include dehydroepiandrosterone as an anabolic steroid](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/s-762-a-bill-to-include-dehydroepiandrosterone-as-an-anabolic-steroid/3555) [Number of morbidly obese growing rapidly](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/number-of-morbidly-obese-growing-rapidly/3042) [HIV exploding in Russia, a terrifying situation](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hiv-exploding-in-russia-a-terrifying-situation/3678) [R U Getting Machine Herpes ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/r-u-getting-machine-herpes/3736) [Great site for music you never heard of](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-site-for-music-you-never-heard-of/3845) [Whole Body Vibration… the next tech for perfected workouts ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whole-body-vibration-the-next-tech-for-perfected-workouts/2678) [We should emulate the Chinese…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/we-should-emulate-the-chinese/3881) [Human Fat Meatballs](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/human-fat-meatballs/3778) [Aha ! P96… unlike other pheromones…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aha-p96-unlike-other-pheromones/2972) [This here Thang is too cool…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-here-thang-is-too-cool/4162) [Reversing metal induced skin hardening](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/reversing-metal-induced-skin-hardening/4157) [Sooooo… the question is:](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sooooo-the-question-is/4336) [Brought to you by the same folks who…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brought-to-you-by-the-same-folks-who/4123) [Oh yeah ! The mortgage meltdown that won’t go away !](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oh-yeah-the-mortgage-meltdown-that-wont-go-away/4254) [MRI scan taken during sex](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mri-scan-taken-during-sex/4706) [Ahhh… the Motormouth Syndrome is a Public Concern](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ahhh-the-motormouth-syndrome-is-a-public-concern/4765) [An incredible sight to behold…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-incredible-sight-to-behold/4779) [My sneaky tweaky coffee tweak…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-sneaky-tweaky-coffee-tweak/4816) [Read this book: The Ape in the Corner Office](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/read-this-book-the-ape-in-the-corner-office/4965) [P98… what was that ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p98-what-was-that/5019) [Here’s the latest mortgage industry graph…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-the-latest-mortgage-industry-graph/4601) [Another all around textbook for power, sex, money, fame…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-all-around-textbook-for-power-sex-money-fame/5115) [The 100 family of putatives…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-100-family-of-putatives/5156) [Not for everybody… the depth psychology of the game ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-for-everybody-the-depth-psychology-of-the-game/5229) [Pot may hike risk of psychosis, research finds](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pot-may-hike-risk-of-psychosis-research-finds/4832) [TAH as the sweet groove mone](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-as-the-sweet-groove-mone/191) [Glauberman’s latest CD… “Golf Mastery”](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/glaubermans-latest-cd-golf-mastery/5228) [Remember to get your blood testing done](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/remember-to-get-your-blood-testing-done/5281) [TAA + Beta-Nol + A314 , we have a winner](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-beta-nol-a314-we-have-a-winner/101) [Gone missing… MEO-EST, P96… and the next series ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gone-missing-meo-est-p96-and-the-next-series/5280) [P80… clever grace note](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-clever-grace-note/296) [Is this phenomenally stupid or what ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-phenomenally-stupid-or-what/5321) [Your corrupt government at work ruining your kid’s health](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-corrupt-government-at-work-ruining-your-kids-health/5332) [mindblowing… America as End Stage Rome already ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mindblowing-america-as-end-stage-rome-already/5401) [This is not a good thing, this is a bad and dangerous thing…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-is-not-a-good-thing-this-is-a-bad-and-dangerous-thing/5253) [Alexithymia… a no-mood disorder that’s turning up…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alexithymia-a-no-mood-disorder-thats-turning-up/5417) [Good tight clean code is back, and the euros are doing it](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-tight-clean-code-is-back-and-the-euros-are-doing-it/5497) [Beta-Nol and listening to music…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beta-nol-and-listening-to-music/5521) [Greenspan Nukes The Discourse…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greenspan-nukes-the-discourse/5563) [Freedom Of Speech In Action](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/freedom-of-speech-in-action/5596) [This is extraterrestrial material…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-is-extraterrestrial-material/5615) [A life changing experience…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-life-changing-experience/5675) [business theory and self marketing… or else..](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/business-theory-and-self-marketing-or-else/5727) [The Female version of dating hell…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-female-version-of-dating-hell/5737) [New Arginine sports drink and body mones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-arginine-sports-drink-and-body-mones/194) [possibly the most essential game enhancer on the market](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/possibly-the-most-essential-game-enhancer-on-the-market/5754) [Will we ever see P96 on the shelf again ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-we-ever-see-p96-on-the-shelf-again/5866) [Now a word from a Dead White Male](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/now-a-word-from-a-dead-white-male/5816) [Essence of Man Pig !](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-man-pig/5509) [The extreme strangeness of climate change](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-extreme-strangeness-of-climate-change/5905) [OK… unbelievable… and emotion reading face scanner](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-unbelievable-and-emotion-reading-face-scanner/5959) [Have we reached a new level of inanity ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-unbelievable-and-emotion-reading-face-scanner/5959) [You must see this: Cheney’s Law on PBS tonight](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/you-must-see-this-cheneys-law-on-pbs-tonight/6046) [After nearly 15 minutes of soul-searching, I have heard the call](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/after-nearly-15-minutes-of-soul-searching-i-have-heard-the-call/6077) \*([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ill-let-this-article-speak-for-itself-welcome-to-the-future-kids/6150](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ill-let-this-article-speak-for-itself-welcome-to-the-future-kids/6150)) [New vitamin PQQ and beautiful skin ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-vitamin-pqq-and-beautiful-skin/4757) [A tidbit worth thinking about:](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-tidbit-worth-thinking-about/6164) [breakthrough technology, see UR brain in play](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/breakthrough-technology-see-ur-brain-in-play/6212) [Taming Your Inner Brat: A Guide for Transforming Self-Defeating Behavior](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taming-your-inner-brat-a-guide-for-transforming-self-defeating-behavior/6277) [So, why do our leaders get so little respect ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-why-do-our-leaders-get-so-little-respect/6309) [nothing but thousands of faces at point of orgasm](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nothing-but-thousands-of-faces-at-point-of-orgasm/6310) [You after and Instant Jerk OD](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/you-after-and-instant-jerk-od/6329) [Dante’s Inferno personality test…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dantes-inferno-personality-test/6308) [So… about your quality control issues](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-about-your-quality-control-issues/6373) [Care to bend the odds in your favor ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/care-to-bend-the-odds-in-your-favor/6391) [PQQ about to be on the market as novel vitamin](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pqq-about-to-be-on-the-market-as-novel-vitamin/6388) [reading material for leisure time ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/reading-material-for-leisure-time/6419) [department of political factoids](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/department-of-political-factoids/6423) [Ron Paul levells the playing field ? Wow !](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ron-paul-levells-the-playing-field-wow/6446) [Guess how much media power one corporation has.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guess-how-much-media-power-one-corporation-has/6405) [You can’t make this stuff up…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/you-cant-make-this-stuff-up/6421) [Yup… this bill intoduced in the House of Representatives](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yup-this-bill-intoduced-in-the-house-of-representatives/6578) [Cannot believe what I just saw…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cannot-believe-what-i-just-saw/6537) [Yelp dot com ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yelp-dot-com/6635) [OK.. this shizz is evil funny…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-this-shizz-is-evil-funny/6663) [And now… hedge funds are going up in smoke](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-now-hedge-funds-are-going-up-in-smoke/5239) [tee hee hee…MEO-EST made me do it!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179) [Fine, laugh… I bought an iGallop robo-horse](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fine-laugh-i-bought-an-igallop-robo-horse/3782) [Let’s visit the Orgasmotron !](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-visit-the-orgasmotron/1572) [Our collective economic ass is about to get kicked, hard and rude.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/our-collective-economic-ass-is-about-to-get-kicked-hard-and-rude/2464) [Adventures with low doses of pure oxygen](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/adventures-with-low-doses-of-pure-oxygen/4867) [Do I have the right to refuse this search ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-have-the-right-to-refuse-this-search/34917) [Playing with Neuroprogrammer 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/playing-with-neuroprogrammer-2/34899) [Cornelius Tacitus Redux](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cornelius-tacitus-redux/34862) [Beta-androstenol and meditation CDs](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beta-androstenol-and-meditation-cds/35008) [The power of imagination in children](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-imagination-in-children/35025) [Meet your new teacher, lucky dog, you\>](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meet-your-new-teacher-lucky-dog-you/35077) [some advice for your humble consideration](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-advice-for-your-humble-consideration/35079) [P106… a social energizer ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-a-social-energizer/35147) [Did p114 vanish ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-p114-vanish/35122) [Kids these days… got no respect…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kids-these-days-got-no-respect/35341) [pheromones gone wrong](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-gone-wrong/35513) [Astonishing story…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/astonishing-story/35524) [The Recession might have a few darts left…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-recession-might-have-a-few-darts-left/35336) [Going to B-School ? Read this book, now.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/going-to-b-school-read-this-book-now/35528) [Germany: Stop Using Internet Explorer](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/germany-stop-using-internet-explorer/35525) [This is the future of dissent in America](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-is-the-future-of-dissent-in-america/35594) [Ah customer service…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ah-customer-service/35618) [Teen Drinking May Cause Irreversible Brain Damage](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/teen-drinking-may-cause-irreversible-brain-damage/35729) [Brain wave toys… we ain’t in Kansas anymore](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brain-wave-toys-we-aint-in-kansas-anymore/35727) [John Grinder says some things](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/john-grinder-says-some-things/35833) [Useful article](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/useful-article/35846) [Football and your brain… not good](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/football-and-your-brain-not-good/35844) [More bad news about alcohol and brains](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-bad-news-about-alcohol-and-brains/35814) [Weirdest political ad of the dacade](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weirdest-political-ad-of-the-dacade/35975) [More Brain Injury discussion](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-brain-injury-discussion/35987) [Ah… the progress of the human spirit…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ah-the-progress-of-the-human-spirit/35976) [P115 and mind machine software…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p115-and-mind-machine-software/35979) [Testing P119 and P125](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/testing-p119-and-p125/36049) [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476) [Anal Sex Mishaps](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anal-sex-mishaps/36447) [Now women have antidote to PUA advice](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/now-women-have-antidote-to-pua-advice/36431) [The best diffusors](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-best-diffusors/250) [funny, sad, or insane ? Hemhorroids and Clubbing.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/funny-sad-or-insane-hemhorroids-and-clubbing/36573) [Finallly, the real news](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finallly-the-real-news/37478) [Should Androtics have a Black Label line](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/should-androtics-have-a-black-label-line/37625) [Scary Time mag. vid on contact sports and brain damage](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scary-time-mag-vid-on-contact-sports-and-brain-damage/37685) [When is Androtics releasing a new product ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590) [OK… this is too good](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-this-is-too-good/37871) [The anti-sex generation](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-anti-sex-generation/37824) [Yer Brain and responsible conduct](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yer-brain-and-responsible-conduct/37970) [great description of Character Disordered Personality](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-description-of-character-disordered-personality/38059) [The all time hottest, filthiest Sexmix of all time…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-all-time-hottest-filthiest-sexmix-of-all-time/38278) [Have young people gone crazy ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-young-people-gone-crazy/38582) [Headed for another Global Splat ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/headed-for-another-global-splat/38855) [How to ruin the moment](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-ruin-the-moment/38833) [The end of polite,procedural Europe](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-end-of-polite-procedural-europe/38546) [Cologne lures jaguars in the wild](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cologne-lures-jaguars-in-the-wild/39185) [That’s the way you do it…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thats-the-way-you-do-it/39233) [Nasty police state coming your way ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nasty-police-state-coming-your-way/39215) [Good advice if anyone can use it](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-advice-if-anyone-can-use-it/39869) [College life 9 years ago](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/college-life-9-years-ago/39891) [Very enlightening article](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-enlightening-article/39951) [The real dope on what women want](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-real-dope-on-what-women-want/40088) [Could PUA’s be charged with rape by deception ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-real-dope-on-what-women-want/40088) [Mangina Metrosexualis (the adult male clown)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mangina-metrosexualis-the-adult-male-clown/41257) [The worst marketing message ever ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-worst-marketing-message-ever/42109) [Bakedness, Konsciousness, Mindness](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bakedness-konsciousness-mindness/34921) [P90… subtle, a touch social dominant, maybe ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-subtle-a-touch-social-dominant-maybe/985) [The pleasing self effects of P106](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-pleasing-self-effects-of-p106/42271) [Another great day in law enforcement](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-great-day-in-law-enforcement/42450) [The weirdest thing I’ve seen in years…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-weirdest-thing-ive-seen-in-years/42449) [P106, collective behavior, self effects… etc](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-collective-behavior-self-effects-etc/42476)\* ---
**Author:** ![Androtics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Androtics](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Androtics)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/our-friend-tacitus-rip-12-2010-a-compilation-of-brilliant-and-exhilarating-posts/44612/6 "2011-02-10T18:16:57Z")
[In case you weren’t sufficiently paranoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/in-case-you-werent-sufficiently-paranoid/42562) [Pulsating Pussy Mix meets Marriage Counselor](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pulsating-pussy-mix-meets-marriage-counselor/42598) [The Pulsating Pussy Effect](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-pulsating-pussy-effect/41999) [Before there was a PUA movement](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-there-was-a-pua-movement/42521) [Space Oddity: anol+rone+TAL+est+p97+p106](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/space-oddity-anol-rone-tal-est-p97-p106/42848/2) [The sheer honesty that TAL unleashes in women](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-sheer-honesty-that-tal-unleashes-in-women/42780) [The cutest Russian girl…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-cutest-russian-girl/42948) [How not to get ahead](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-not-to-get-ahead/42942) [worst porn scene ever recorded ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/worst-porn-scene-ever-recorded/42894) [P106 and osgasmotronix studies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-and-osgasmotronix-studies/43113) [Very beautiful and strangely cool](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-beautiful-and-strangely-cool/43057) [Lesbian Zombies in therapy ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lesbian-zombies-in-therapy/43168) [p112… wow! wacky ! wuzzup wid it ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p112-wow-wacky-wuzzup-wid-it/43273) [In the worst possible taste…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/in-the-worst-possible-taste/43383) [Department of Paranoia, second division…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/department-of-paranoia-second-division/43055) [vitamin-line nutrient PQQ finally available](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/vitamin-line-nutrient-pqq-finally-available/36432) [P114… holy moley !](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p114-holy-moley/35296) [P90 didn’t do much, P91 was chillin’](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-didnt-do-much-p91-was-chillin/973) [Rich people have no idea what you’re thinking](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rich-people-have-no-idea-what-youre-thinking/43936) [My post pheromone self… game as instinct training ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-post-pheromone-self-game-as-instinct-training/6213/9) [Too much weird sex will do that to a feller](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-much-weird-sex-will-do-that-to-a-feller/44010) [Ah, that explains it !](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ah-that-explains-it/36050) [Great moments in football](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-moments-in-football/42493) [P85… a nice decent buzz with no profundity](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635) [Compelling reflections from Mick Jagger](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/compelling-reflections-from-mick-jagger/43110) [Other interactions…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/other-interactions/572) Here’s what I plan to do next: Categorize each thread into easy searchable patterns for psychology, sex, molecule research, humor, oddities and some others. Community help would be appreciated. I want to also add a quip for easy reference under each link (quote from tacitus himself). ---
**Author:** ![Androtics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Androtics](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Androtics)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/our-friend-tacitus-rip-12-2010-a-compilation-of-brilliant-and-exhilarating-posts/44612/7 "2011-02-10T18:17:08Z")
These are Private Messages posted by PheroQuirk in the lounge area here: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-non-personal-pms-from-tacitus/48957](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-non-personal-pms-from-tacitus/48957) For posterity reasons and to ensure they are properly archived I am posting them here as quotes. > [@PheroQuirk](#): > > # I am not posting these without some hesitation, but I have removed anything private and I don’t think he would have objected to these insights being more generally shared. > > (re none buffer) > would fit this modus operandi. I’ve tried erotic mixes with and without, buffering strong -none. clearly has a softening, calming action against the hard push of -none. A1 has never made me depressed, edgy, or combative, nor is true dineone strongly fragrant. It is almost odorless with a slighly sweet tinge. I have a suspicion that something else, such as androstenone, may have been labelled as -Androstadienone… you have to be very careful who you deal with in this business… > > Having said that, -Androstadienone seems to be greatly improved when it is mixed with A314 > > Also should say that I am about 50 years old with reduced hormonal output, perhaps with a man in his 20s, -dieneone would cause an overload and some kind of overcompensating depression, such as the aftereffect of taking a strong stimulant. > > Quote: > Originally Posted by PheroQuirk > Now, what do you suppose it is that is in WAGG, Chikara and A314 (not neccessarily the same compound) that allows one to wear higher doses of 'none with reduced chance of very negative reactions? > > Androstadienone on it’s own can’t be it, since none of the products above make men depressed (and I don’t suppose Chikara could be scented if it were). > > Have you had much experience with pure 'none-Androstadienone mixes? > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by **PheroQuirk** > > \*Quote: > > Originally Posted by tacitus > > Androstadienol would fit this modus operandi. > > Does it prevent freak-outs by chicks? Or do you still need to add generous Alpha [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) ? > > > > for erotic purposes Alpha [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) + [androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) remains one of the best plays in existence, assume you’re already in agreement about what you’re planning to do next, i.e raw sex. some added -Androsterone seems to round it out. -Diol is too smooth for passionate sex, more warm, conversational, not at all animalistic > > > > # for pre-erotic purposes, testing the waters, - is a welcome add in, small doses though, it isn’t chatty or blathery like the -nols WILL be, a quieter, almost sedate form of communication, although it has its depths too. > > > > # re Alexander Technique - one can practice this on a multitude of levels, like meditation it can be either horribly boring or subtle and enlightening, it isn’t a linear, go in and take two of these and call me in the morning activity… you will find yourself simultaneously outgrowing some lines of inquiry and growing into others, I remember waking up one day and thinking that I’d outgrown the [NLP](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) crowd, or they changed, or whatever… sometimes I feel like AT can be sort of retarded and low energy and other times lively in an internal way.. the advanced people do seem to be woken up in ways that most people aren’t, physically and mentally… there is a lot of crappy AT on the market too… the gurus of the world have a rendency to speak to a lame brained element of the population, it is hard to find a teacher who actually is “all that and a bag of chips”… so you find the best you can and work with what you’ve got… balancing planes of development is tricky, you work like crazy to master one plane and you lose touch on another one, so if you can find some way, any way to accelerate the process, that’s pure gold. > > > > # The [NLP](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) front ? Don’t I wish there was a teacher so compelling that I would drop all activities and seek this being out ? My eyes are always open, there isn’t any strong subsurface rumbling to suggest a hidden master lurking in the depths, frankly, Bandler used to be a hale and hearty fellow, if more than a little , errrr, excessive at times, now he looks awfully imploded, possibly he still has something unique and vital in him, couldn’t say for certain say… there is the big Alexander annual congregation at Sweetbriar college in Virginia, a two week event, quite long by seminar standards if you want a grand tour of the art instead of noodling around with a teacher here and there, hoping you’ll find a good one (the not good ones are hopelessly bad)… this is the winter of our discontent or something like that in the body/mind field, you’re either a pro athlete or a corporate droid now, there isn’t a good middle ground, I think this is the outcome of corporatizing life down to the calluses of its feet, now there are too many dregs, jerkish leftovers pandering to the consciousness scene, very sad, very enrevating… > > > > “wow, changed so recently. i don’t know about [nlp](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) . seems to me like they are on to something (and people i respect think it can be helpful). yet every person i have met socially who has been into [nlp](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) has been a bit odd in one way or another (in a mildly disturbing rather than purely eccentric way), maybe not the best inspiration for invoking a desire to pursue it further.” > > > > it appears to have been a glacial process, every gifted charismatic group proceess teacher I have known has some of the “wounded healer” archetype going, the thing that is broken in them also gives them the neurotic intensity to inflate in front of an audience… [NLP](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) can fill its’ adherents with fantasies of special powers, all the old legends of Milton Erikson and his hypnotic craft, Richard and his outrageous stunts, Tony and his great empowerments… everyone seems to be overcompensating… and some of the foundational [NLP](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) theory is unverified crap, that we think in Visual, Auditory, Kinesthetic systems, when my experience is we think in an impure mixture of these modalities… the most real teacher along these lines my be Stephen Gilligan, who has a real PhD in clinical psychology and is really respected in the professional community, and studied closely with John Brinder and [Richard Bandler](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) . For more information: > > > > [stephengilligan.com](http://stephengilligan.com) > > > > [re cults] > > once you’ve been through the drill it isn’t a fresh the second time around, same with me and [EST](https://phera.com/) , the next one had all the wrong aromas. Scientology with their E-meters was laughable and scary… an OT6 walked up to me and demanded to know “why is a tree a tree?” Say what ? > > > > a’how did u make the move from biochem to acting? was the drive toward self-realisation the reason? or did u get into all this stuff to become a better actor?" > > > > # another long glascial process, some cultural anthropology made me wonder about group processes and collective trance, and how groups migh be coordinating the processes > > > > "yes, the mechanics of how groups makes decisions in practice seems poorly understood. and i’m not sure the neocortex is as much in charge as it likes to think. > > > > how often/in what situations do u think collective trance plays a part in things?" > > > > Gilligan has much to say about trance states, they are really common phenomena, although they aren’t usually directed with much cortical planning. Some charismatic types seem to have an intuitive grasp of their processes and manipulate them somewhat at will. > > > > After years of study will every [NLP](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) “master”, Gilligan, and across several cultural platforms I find that I do eneter into a state that is both directed consciously and unconsciously (or from the second attention as John Grinder, borrowing from Carlos Casteneda, likes to call it) where I will do group trancework… at times I have achieved gratifying results when a member of an acting class spontaneously demonstrates a sudden flash of hightened competence afeter a piece of trance induction… of course you can learn to be so covert about these things, and the group is in a nice eyes open trance, I did one thing recently where there was an electric heater shifting off and on, making a metallic buzzing sound, so I gave the group the suggestion that it was a Sitar they were listening to and the buzzing was the sitar drone, and then i talked about the beauties of Indian classical music and it’s subtly shifting harmonic cores, and pretty soon the heater was doing the induction for me as the room dazed on the suggestion that they were listening to sitar, then of course on to the idea that one could experience dramatic increases in their general life competence… another corporate girl named Janis I suggested that we sing Janis Joplin duets so she could beging to feel all the human complexity she couldn’t in a corporate setting… ya know, you can do some very nice stuff… > > "yes, the mechanics of how groups makes decisions in practice seems poorly understood. and i’m not sure the neocortex is as much in charge as it likes to think. > > > > how often/in what situations do u think collective trance plays a part in things?" > > > > Gilligan has much to say about trance states, they are really common phenomena, although they aren’t usually directed with much cortical planning. Some charismatic types seem to have an intuitive grasp of their processes and manipulate them somewhat at will. > > > > # After years of study will every [NLP](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) “master”, Gilligan, and across several cultural platforms I find that I do eneter into a state that is both directed consciously and unconsciously (or from the second attention as John Grinder, borrowing from Carlos Casteneda, likes to call it) where I will do group trancework… at times I have achieved gratifying results when a member of an acting class spontaneously demonstrates a sudden flash of hightened competence afeter a piece of trance induction… of course you can learn to be so covert about these things, and the group is in a nice eyes open trance, I did one thing recently where there was an electric heater shifting off and on, making a metallic buzzing sound, so I gave the group the suggestion that it was a Sitar they were listening to and the buzzing was the sitar drone, and then i talked about the beauties of Indian classical music and it’s subtly shifting harmonic cores, and pretty soon the heater was doing the induction for me as the room dazed on the suggestion that they were listening to sitar, then of course on to the idea that one could experience dramatic increases in their general life competence… another corporate girl named Janis I suggested that we sing Janis Joplin duets so she could beging to feel all the human complexity she couldn’t in a corporate setting… ya know, you can do some very nice stuff… > > > > “oh yes - it’s not going to be a very controlled experiment” > > > > # [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) feel like a great adjunct pheromone, it lacks the warmth of the -nols or the passion of -Androstadienone or -none… although in combination with them a raw dopamnine surge might be interpreted as a thing of erotic wonder, a great fragrant night blooming orchid bursting out of a clump of wet moss… ergo, (have a look at jasmin’s latest post about [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in the vacinity of methoxy- [est](https://phera.com/) ) one might want to be extra particular about the circumstances when running this experiment. You could get pounced on by a hungry spider. > > > > “oh yes - it’s not going to be a very controlled experiment” > > > > Re: MOET > > "we need to get an abbreviation for this > > thing > > > > I may well be imagining this, but did seem to see a shift in vision on inhaling and again music seems different. Find it hard to articulate what the difference is though. So keep an eye out and let me know if you do end up noticing any changes in perception" > > > > # let’s allow a critical mass of impressions to form… it is doing something, that’s certain. > > > > I suggested to Jasmin - next stop 100mcg [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and 2 shots of absinthe > > > > ummmm, yukkkkk, I think Baudelaire said that waking up from an absinthe hangover was like sleeping in shit. To me it’s plain nasty, a foul, vile high… > > > > I’ve never done acid or e, but I wonder how TAF would influence that experience.\* > > # Might be too much of a good thing. I was reading that “serious trippers” (is that an oxymoron or what ?) were gravitating towards adding small doses of sedatives like banzodiazapenes to soften the trip… there have been reliable reports that pheromes can have a powerful, perhaps too powerful for emotional comfort, impact when used with strong cannabis. Emotional stuff may arise that some are not prepared to handle… > > what do you think about taf’s use in meditation btw? i heard one chap was ordering it for that purpose. > > meditation… too alert for that, move you away from the classic meditative theta state, up to a higher frequency beta… > > Quote: > there have been reliable reports that pheromes can have a powerful, perhaps too powerful for emotional comfort, impact when used with strong cannabis. > yes, i saw reports to that effect at the other place from one of the more interesting posters there. # cannabis has evolved into powerful mind altering stuff… I now hear reports of uses self admitting into health clincs because they are suffering from (hopefully temporary) memory loss… the late generation hydroponic growing technology and more sophisticated plant genetics have unleased another one of the great unintended consequences on us… wouldn’t want to expose the users to a high intensity -pheromone unless they were solid stable individuals, and me, I wouldn’t be there in the first place… Re: ‘polishing coconuts’ believe it or not there are now philosophers who contemplate this sort of thing… I think they call it “manifestation theory”… there’s a guy in Encenitas, California who studied closely with the legendary Milton Erikson, one Stephen Gilligan: [Milton Erickson | Hypnosis | Self-Relations | by Stephen Gilligan Ph.D](http://www.stephengilligan.com/) he’s not a manifestationist, although he does some heavy work with the RAS and the ways filters are set… he can do deep work with the unconscious mind and how it creates what the conscios mind takes for reality Quote: Originally Posted by PheroQuirk was thinking about taf and reading up on the RAS in google when I came across the following - thought you would find the description of a social dynamic to be interesting # [SoulfulLiving.com - A Feature Article on Writing and Intention - Write It Down, Make It Happen, by Henriette Anne Klauser - Soulful Living](http://www.soulfulliving.com/writeitdown.htm) Re: hi from a brain science point of view: [Political bias affects brain activity, study finds - Technology & science - Science - LiveScience - msnbc.com](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11009379/) Quote: Originally Posted by PheroQuirk will reply over next few days. about to head to spore. thought you might find the below of interest # [http://www.gmu.edu/jbc/Tyler/PrideandSelf.pdf](http://www.gmu.edu/jbc/Tyler/PrideandSelf.pdf) Re: TAK afterthoughts after considerable experimentation it seems reasonable to conclude that human brains are gestalt forming organs, the lower regions of the brain take in a huge amount of undifferentiated information and progressively trim it, refine it, compare and map to the higher brain regions… so it is exceedingly hard to pin down any specific “IT” that shapes one’s present sense/feeling/congnition about what reality is, whether social reality or physical reality… [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) and sensual odorants obviously adjust this mysterious process in some interesting ways which may lead one to disregard the full bundle of forces at work John Grinder of NLP fame was very focused on the idea of unconscious state matching (i.e. rapport creating) and state dis-matching processes which he believes took place outside of conscious awareness. In some converssation with him, he appeared to be thoroughly innocent of pheromone chemistry or theory, more surprising his cluster of adherents were overtly hostile to the idea of pheromones as having any contribution to this rapport business, as they may have undermined certain of the basic tenets of the NLP model… Funny thing was that Grinder was a big fan of Thomas Kuhn, author of The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, that suggested this very thing, that a new piece of information would arise which would be highly discrepant with established paradigms, and that the old generation would feel that their authority, learning, investments, and prestige would be threatened by this novel thing… It was the appearance of pheromones on the scene that threatened to have a Kuhnian impact on the orthodoxy of NLP, and the NLP community reacted in the predictable way… which goes to show that one have have an intellectual grasp of a topic yet be fully unable to comprehend its’ relevance to the present situation. What makes people tick is complicated… the tactical approach of body language, pacing, leading, immediate social signals, may disregard the importance of long standing cultural forms, family dynamics, early childhood experience, education or lack thereof, political and economic frames… One could ramble on at great length here… Quote: Originally Posted by PheroQuirk awesome post. one of the most insightful on any topic I have seen, even amongst yours. possibly life-changing. do you suppose the something else is mostly a chemical messenger? (some derivative of cortisol?) or due to a bunch of things including posture, body language and subtle facial expressions etc? # cc michael in case anything to add Re: impi can’t name any novel ones… spent time with the head of research for a fragrance industry trade association… he said that sesquiterpene synthesis can’t be done except at extreme cost in the laboratory, they have to get them from natural sources, except now they are testing trans-genetic technology to do it by putting the right DNA into yeast… aloeswood/agarwood, assuming you have the real material, is definitely psychoactive and quite pro-erotic as well as unbelievably fragrant… a sesquiterpene complex… vetiver, also a popular sort of unpleasant scent IMHO, another one…I would suspect many of the fragrant wood oils, esp the southeast asian variety, are combos of various terpene classes.. # Quote: Originally Posted by PheroQuirk Quote: Originally Posted by tacitus wonder if it one of the psychoactive sesquiterpenes from a bark or root where such things are found ? interesting - are there any other sesquiterpenes in partic you have found helpful (beyond the ones you mentioned on LS)? e: phero burnout it seems to be a general thing, varies for pheromone to pheromone.. that’s why I don’t use them every day, maybe every 4th day maximum, because they really work my neurological-endocrine axes pretty well, it would be like drinking a lot of strong espesso all the time… and balancing the yin pheromones with the yang pheromones is a good idea too, so you aren’t over stretched in either direction.. Androstadienone can, but not always, have this backdraft effect of feeling sort of unsocial and not into talking to people.. # Quote: Originally Posted by PheroQuirk I think I tend to experience same with high doses of Androstadienone. Feel grimey, blah and depleted. Have you noticed this with anything else? (It doesn’t seem to happen for me with none for ex). tw was reminded v much today of your point about importance of voice/tonality etc. had been making a conscious effort to work on this (for now just simple stuff - paying attention to breathing and singing scales and arpeggios in shower) with I think some useful effect. The best thing to do is get a good recorder and a good microphone (with a wind “pop” foam cover so you don’t overload the microphone with air blowing over it) and listen to yourself reading text. Shakespeare is perfect because of his use of meter… sometimes when I listen to old Londoners talk, people now in their seventies or so, I remember how refined, how disciplined, and yet how unselfconsciously beautiful, and clearly expressive on multiple levels, emotive and logical both common speech could be, with no affectations, and I think a great confidence came with that, that one could be understood and that one could easily understand, and many emotional planes could be at work without being precious or excessively denotative… [/quote] ---
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Additional PheroQuirk / Tacitus PM’s > [@PheroQuirk](#): > > # ======== > > I’m too wiped out with the flu at the moment to do justice to a good reply… I wouldn’t go so far as to study art history… much of it is awfully tedious… you’d do better to go to a store that sells art and design books and get a couple that deal with color theory and color application in design… for example, I learned (after years of considering the subject) that certain carefully realted colors were inherently sexy and people felt sexy around them… most people make the initial mistake of choosing colors individually instead of understaning the dynamic between colors, and how that enhances or weakens self presentation… the color scheme must work with your hair… eye color… and skin tone. Because the eye is the most erotic visible body part, be especially aware of the way anything near the eye, particulary a scarf or shirt, will cause the eye to intensify… I think it is a mistake to “fight the eye” by choosing a color that contrasts with it… better to find colors that interact with and compliment the eye… black guys are lucky because they have everything lined up, eyes, hair, skin… they can wear devastating primary colors, strong yellows, reds, deep blue colors that no anglo guy should wear, he’ll just dissappear and the color will take over… look at this Italian masters of the Renaissance… such colorists like the world has never seen… then think of your hair… the second color choice should contrast slightly with the hair… but be at the same “grey value” (meaning that if all the color was removed, the degree of greyness would be the same)… so as I became middle aged and more grey, my jackets shifted from darker to lighter. with an interplay of washed out, almost mineralic mediterranean colors… only a fool of an old man would dye his hair, better to pick masterful color schemes that compliment the hair… then consider the skin, is is bluish, orange tinted, olive green toned ? All of these factors must be carefully blended and put together like art, yet with no sign of effort… always better to understate than overstate… > > # I do think that life skills begin to flow together and meld into one’s personal style… so ultimately one isn’t bound to a script or an external method… pheromones may become an integral piece of that large self presentation… more… they can accelerate your learning curve as richer social opportunities present themselves as raw material… I did begin to notice that a multitude of influencing factors were in the background as “supporting subliminals” … such as studying color theory and great art and training my eye hard to see what made an optical materpiece so visually enticing… then applying that knowledge to clothing… there are many fine points of color combination that do turn people on, even though the individual clothes may be of modest origin… the lesson here for me was the essence is to look comfortable, natural, completely unforced, yet associate colors, fabrics, patterns in ways that are outstanding in their simplicity and elegance… looking too stylish can actually be a detriment… anything that announces one’s needfulness WILL be a detriment… OTOH… there are details that make a difference without ever flying out… I see far too many bad belt buckles, either too heavy, made from the wrong metal, or too dainty… there seems to be an art to carrying a great buckle… there is an art to walking, the looseness of the gait, quite hard to learn how to walk elegantly, and you can’t fake it, how to pay attention and listen to someone else, tracking the subtle changes of their micro-expressions, having a cache of great stories that are uniquely yours… MM wlll clarify specific points… I use their clarifications to good effect, the difference is that I don’t rely on alcohol, ever, or drugs, ever, and I don’t hang out in clubs or bars nor do I see any reason to. > > # as a younger man, were you always this insightful and perceptive? or did the NLP+bodywork+vocal training+life experience &c &c transport you to a different realm? > > unfortunately, both for myself and anyone in my presence, I was a total jerk… albeit a curious total jerk…huge investments of time, dedication, finding the right teachers, wasting energy and life corpuscles with the wrong teachers, and perhaps most importantly, allowing my preconceptions to be busted… all were required to make an iota of progress.. fortunately, when you invest in the right efforts, the eventual payoff can be great… none of this came with magical ease… and be warned, as I am reenteering the NLP field… some NLP has turned hopelessly mediocre… it just returned from a training with a costly “certification” as if their certificate would carry much weight… and qualitatively it bordered on ludicrous… > > # tku. i’m still curious about the taa-tac contradiction… so you find tac mildly erotic but not the alpha one… > > wellll… tac is a strange one… I’ve never found it erotic per se… it has the polymorphous nature that can be sort of gentlemanly-authoritative sexy grandpa presence… or it can be spontaneously giggly… people will crack up for no reaon… taa is so distinct… with a meditative upper, anti-depressant quality… tac is softening, relaxing, like sinking into a well padded chair, and taa is more like bouncing on a trampoline… together you feel a two directional pull, like you want to chill out and self express at the same time… I think taa can get you laid and tac can get you laid, though your approach would be different for each one… I’m not so sure that tac and taa at the same time will get you laid… > > Re: message for TACitus > eyurp… a [censored]-something at that… > > stand up comedy in a bottle, ifn you asks me… dunno why but cats love it… easily as much as catnip… purrrrrrrrr purrrrrrrrr purrrrrrrr… pussies like it too. > > # Quote: > > Originally Posted by PheroQuirk > so if TAC is unlike any other pheromone you know about, then to somebody who has read your posts for a while I guess that pretty much nails which one it must be… no comment required > > you don’t do things by halves funny because I have the same approach. stuff is cheap and the potential benefit from getting things very right so high that makes sense to splurge on and experiment with books, music, pheromones etc - anything that will help you make your life better. > > Yep… everything begins and ends with the mind… your mind IS reality in a practical sense… I’ve been experimenting with “bracketing” lately, working my beta ranges, then down to delta-theta, then more beta, then more delta-theta… while avoiding the spacey, self indulgent alpha range… I do much better in life when I reduce my alpha activity… seems I go there as sort of an escape, dreamy, socially disconnected, watching internal TV… the theta-beta combination is less foggy, less sentimental, gets things done fast, efficiently, and keeps good track of time… > > overstimulation of sympathetic system may be lyme or immune related. I wonder if TAK+ mind machine can help also > > # Possibly… there are strange factors, like the balance of the occlusions of the molars… I was dumfounded when a persistant headache and neck pain that had dogged me for ten years cleared up when I got my rear teeth precisely levelled… clenched my jaws much less too… > > Qn re Glauberman - if using simultaneously with a mind machine, which settings are acceptable? Is it okay to fall asleep during the induction? > > # I presently have another large pile of Glauberman’s CDs I’m exploring… some of my recent changes have be absolutely astounding… although I don’t know how to weight each contributory factor, and perhaps in a complex synergy condition, the whole cannot be fully understood merely as a sum of the parts… I think as each mind is distinct, and each life agenda is as well, that one must patiently combine and recombine until one finds the right personal tuning for that life moment… I dount that you could go very wrong in the worst case, however only with the patience of a locksmith can you arrive at the perfect intersection for your present gestalt, when you step back and say to yourself, WOW… that really IS a new perspective on life… > > Re: nova 100 codes > You are going to be one busy fellow for the nonce. In my recent experimentation, I believe I have gotten the best all around results when using the High Range Aerobic Jump (beta fluidizer) which will be Special Program #3 followed by the Full Range Aerobic Jump, Special #2… of course there are oodles of others… I’ve found that those two, in that order, when used regularly, will slowly but surely bring about a dramit improvement in mental efficiency with no added feeling of mental strain or effort, IF you use only the audio portion… with the light goggles it might be fairly intense… also have been using the Glauberman CDs to marvellous effect… his Meditative Relaxation is especially good, as is his High Performance, and Soul Mates (not as overtly romantic as the title sounds, good relationship builder)… even his “relationship repair” set, Rekindling The Flame is actually fun and useful… I took a big batch with me the other day, and my girlfriend over there was so impressed by the overall improvements in our relationship she (normally highly skeptical of anything the slightest bit woojie-woojie) asked me to leave some with her… I was freaking amazed that she would make such a request… but honestly the qualitative changes for the better between us left us both awestruck… like I’d been seeing a good therapist and some of it osmotically soaked into her psyche… beware though, this was the consequence of about 3 weeks of an average of two hours per day of Glauberman and 40 minutes per day of Photosonix… I believe there is a POWERFUL synergy between the two… which you yourself may not be immediately aware of although I have more noticed other people noticing the differences in me that I have felt or sensed them directly… I now have another series of CDs on order… even his Sales Mastery is useful… I left her with Sales Mastery (she sells sea shells by the sea shore), Soul Mates, which is really about learning to see things from another’s perspective, and Meditative Relaxation, If you’re really a bug for these sorts of things, you can route an external source through the Photosonix so you could overlay some of the CDs with the Photosonix programs for super-deep injection… BTW… each CD will have several (usually two, sometimes three) tracks withabotu 1 minute of dead silence at the end of each… so don’t assume that the whole thing is played at the end of the first segment… > > For this line of thought, EST is the best, and beta-Androstenol is superb, TAH would be OK too… and EST/Beta Androstenol duo sounds about right. > > ============== > I’ve been a bit afraid of starting acting classes in a group as I suspect I’m likely to be a fair bit behind the mean in current/native ability. > > It is so hard at the beginning, you feel so self conscious and naked, all the anxieties, the inner voices to be worked through and quieted… > > Possibly barely-remembered memories from childhood. But am at the stage where guess I can deal with the social pressure if need be. Are Meisner technique classes always in a group setting, or can they be private? > > # The more public the better… best of all you should have to do them naked at a soccer match on the midfield line with thosands of spectators booing you… you will have no fears of public exposure after that… > > # Yeah… lots and lots of big city professional training with tough, high quality acting coaches and voice coaches is a MUST before going on camera… My advice would be at least one semester of meisner (acting) training, one full on camera course… everything here need to be trained, tightened up, brought into focus… and boy do i know, I’ve worked like hell at it and it has taken me at least 3 years of more or less constant application with great teachers to develop “professional presence”… it’s expensive, emotionally painful, stressful, confusing, and unltimately one of the best investments you can make in your future… > > there are numerous factors… voice production is a full body experience… I’ve had ultrasound treatement (you need some expertise to do this) of my arms, and loosening and elasticising my arms changed my voice considerably… and there was a japanese (fanatic craftsman I assume) shoe company that made special shoes for opera singers when they performed, to refine the connection between their body mass and the satage… so I wouldn’t argue that voice HAS to be locked or fixated in any specific region of the body… any place where the body is frozen or has reduced awareness will also affect voice production… as gross as this sounds to the modern sensibility, earlier legitimate medical practice used a number of sphincter dilator tools… exceptionally finely made, done with complete medical professionalism, to treat various conditions of “overgripping”… even high blood pressure was treated with a rectal dilation device, and apparantly this really did work… and there are still “urethral sounds”, or a graduated set of stainless steel probes that are used to open the urethra into the bladder… as there are a complex set of ring muscles in the region that can become clampled shut… the Rolfers and other post-reichian body workers came to believe that over aggressive potty training resulted in the mal-coordiantion of the pelvic floor, and this then caused diaphragmatic tightening… just think about a time when you badly needed to urinate and had to hold it in… it changes your voice, right ? > > ============== > Ultrasound is a well established modality for physical therapy… the high frequency sound is conducted into the muscles and connective tissue from an emitter that is coupled to the skin with ultrasound gel… the major risk with ultrasound is deep tissue burn from improper application, so skillful therapists who know how to put in a high enough dose without injury are required… besides a heating effect, ultrasound actually softens and mobilizes the harder fascia, tendon, and ligamentous tissue so the limb will become much freer and mobile… often the nerves also benefit as the nerve tissue is directly massaged by the ultrasonic vibration, resulting in improved nerve conduction function, which in turn improves muscle function… a good thing if used with proper understanding, potentially dangerous if used improperly… as for Rolfers, the quality of Rolfing has fallen preciptiously over the past 15 years, there may, somewhere, be a first rate bodyworker who can fully enegage the body-mind connection > > # Quote: > > Originally Posted by PheroQuirk > wow… what does ultrasound treatment of arms accomplish? how do I read upon on it on the web… and how about the loosening and elasticising? is that from the ultrasound or an additional process? > > even today when interacting with my parents I often feel like I am acting out some as-yet-unpublished script from ‘games people play’… (one common element is a lecture on how much they sacrificed for me followed by a sequence of negative evaluations/peer group comparisons). > > The first powerful comprehension to free your mind is this: > > They too, now as much as ever, are profoundly on automatic pilot… and the reason they are in this condition is that THEY have endless internal monologs, dialogs, lectures, diatribes, end so on internalized and also outside of conscious awareness… they don’t (for now) comprehend that these are “tapes”… and they are tape players… sometimes it helps to use a quick visual dissociation trick… when you see each other, quickly imagine each significant party AS a tape player, or CD player… with a series of stimulus buttons… so if you say “x” or give posture “y”, then on comes the Z message… you know, there is a very intense, painful, but somehow profoundly liberating movie (when so few possess this depth) I would most reccommend, The House Of Sand And Fog… w/ Ben Kingsley… written by Andre Dubus… about a dispossesed Iranian general who sacrifices everything for his family to live in middle class Oregon… Kingley captures the essence of it… > > do you have any thoughts or suggestions for reading material on clearing the cobwebs around stereotyped behaviour patterns within relationships? it is one thing to change oneself enough that new programming supercedes old patterns in the context of new relationships. but a harder one when it comes to a context of the oldest relationships where the patterns have been laid down since childhood. > > This is so because the relationships are based on absolute dependency… I have found that the deepest growth is rarely the “big blast breakthrough” advertised by the Tony Robbins model of transformation, rather the slow, day to day accretions of awareness… where these dependencies evolve and mature into something more interesting and constructive… hold onto the insight that the generation before you may have had terribly difficult childhoods, filled with uncertainty, and this way of being constantly vigilant, constantly in terror of failure, is informed by the belief that the most terrible consequences may await one is not sufficiently on guard… > > # I think you must also give yourself more credit for being determined to reshape the family drama (which is what many families are… ) and the family trance (which is also what many families are) into something more constructive… > > Having said that… my impression is that you have a large component of perfectionistic internal dialog, which may be blocked from conscious awareness, so I will assume that your childhood had significant figures who lectured you and were very demanding about personal minutae… > > From a self liberation perspective, if you could gain access to these hidden files which guide your consciousness, and if you must be talking to yourself, say richer more dimensional self accepting things, in the tone of curiosity and wonder… > > Have you considered the possibility that the growth tools you have been using, the CDs, bodywork, pheromones-as-catalysts, have helped you make significant, outside of conscious awareness level changes ? > > That it isn’t the pheromones, per se, but you have > really changed, enough for the better that others respond as one naturally would ? > > # Perhaps the issue is not the reality of change, but that your internalized critical voice (and, the beliefs of the person who was the source of that voice) has a hard time understanding, much less accepting this degree of change ? > > Each experience will either deepen existing grooves or carve new ones in your neurology… I wouldn’t concern myself with “out of pattern” unless it becomes egregiously anti-social… ANY experience of newness, the newness of self, will feel alien, hard to interpret, lacking the familiar contextual frames… “deframed moments” can be exhilirating to a free consciousness… clubland, party promoters, and such, IS a rigid, contrived social universe, (I have had excessive experience therein before I came to my senses)… > > # In retrospect, a primate behavior lab… not to be taken too seriously… whatever happens, no need to get any heavy self judgements, even if you make a grand ass of yourself once in a while… > > But now, and by now I mean in the last 10,000 years, we’ve been into something new. Not genetic information, not genetic mutation, not natural selection, but epigenetic activity: writing, theatre, poetry, internal linkdance, art, tattooing, body piercing and philosophy. And these things have accelerated the ingression into novelty …quote] > > # Whew! I have to admit, we’re dancing on the brink and not impressively conscious of it… I suppose this is the great bifuraction, some may go mad, some may enter into a new state of advanced consciousness, but we will certainly be scathed by what is to come… and possibly we will have to enter a time of great environmental trial, we may so granted the rarest of human opportunities, to see humans and environment enter one of those rare world historical totalisms… some have said that the great volcanic eruption at Santorini which obliterated the Minoan civilization also was such a profound, direct shock it brought about a new form of consciousness, a waking up expressed in the birth of greek philosophy, and similar things have been said about the mental impact of the Plague… man had to conceptualize anew, his former God or gods (including technology) no longer could satisfy some basic curiosity, or doubt… > > Well, ya know… THE thing is to discover your own true measures of a well lived life, which may diverge considerably from the messages, conscious and unconscious, that you have been indoctrinated with… IMHO… the real secret in in coming to that point of self understanding, then other things like relationships come quite naturally, because you are being the thing that you truly are… > … > Ummm… it was, and remains a process of self dicovery, learning to be “internally connected”, or moving forward as a congruent unit of intention, as well as externally connected, really listening to and getting other people, particulary being able to step into and out of other frames of reference as circumstances require… even now, approaching my 51st year, I seek out the best treachers, some demanding as hell, hard to find, who are teaching me things of astounding power that I can only half appreciate at the moment… so I assume that being in a position of curiosity, flexibility, skillfulness… you will find that when you have certain exceptional skills recently learned, or “installed” as they like to say, they may be also so subtle and transparent that no one is aware of any doing-ness… there’s only this elegant flow of energy back and forth… and if you work on some good synaethesa skills you can track it by color shifts, the energy gently shifting from reds, oranges, indigos, blues… I mean by this some kind of high level phenomenal mapping that the brain is doing to organize its experience… ---
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More PheroQuirk / Tacitus PM’s > [@PheroQuirk](#): > > \> What social filters select for cool, intresting people? > > varies, you know… we monkeys are a faddish bunch, so what’s the “it > thing” is always in flux… there’s a sort of instinct for the moment… > the real trick here is to find a social maven, one of those near > professionally in touch human radars… some go full on professional and > become party promoters, event planners… who know where the real action > is versus the pseudo action… every social universe has its’ event > producing caste… they are a subculture with their own codes and ways, > who hold the keys to the kingdom… even Lord Chesterfield in his letters > to his dysfunctional bastard son, makes mention of this critical “access > person” who one must cultivate with infinte care… ---
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