# Out of Stock... What are the alternatives **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 28, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/out-of-stock-what-are-the-alternatives/35787 "2010-01-28T19:09:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gidders](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gidders/32/2419_2.png) [@Gidders](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gidders)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/out-of-stock-what-are-the-alternatives/35787/1 "2010-01-28T19:09:04Z")
Hi I’ve just run out of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 2x and its out of stock ☹ I tend to use this in a couple of combination/scenarios as evening wear going out to dances etc: - 1. Combined with IS 2x … 2 or 3 shots of each or 2. Combined with A314 (which I’ve also run out of and is also sold out ☹ ) So what you recommend trying as an alternative? … I’m thinking TUTH may be too raw in this situation? ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/out-of-stock-what-are-the-alternatives/35787/2 "2010-01-28T21:57:16Z")
Gidders “You can handle the truth.”😃 To establish some comfort combine: [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) + [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), and start will one spray of [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/). On just start with the IO and IS, and adjust on the fly, as the evening moves along easing in with some TUTH. ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/out-of-stock-what-are-the-alternatives/35787/3 "2010-01-28T23:02:13Z")
> [@Gidders](#): > > I’ve just run out of **Ammo 2x** and its out of stock ☹ > > So what you recommend trying as an **alternative**?. Buy expirimones: androstenone, anol, androsterone at 5mcgs and use one spray of each. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/out-of-stock-what-are-the-alternatives/35787/4 "2010-01-28T23:33:14Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > Buy expirimones: androstenone, anol, androsterone at 5mcgs and use one spray of each. Lol, that combo kinda reminds me of Alter Ego Jesse. But is that the actual ingredients of ammo? ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/out-of-stock-what-are-the-alternatives/35787/5 "2010-01-29T00:50:58Z")
Regular strength Ammo has been reported as 2.5 mcgs of -none, anol, and erone. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/out-of-stock-what-are-the-alternatives/35787/6 "2010-01-29T02:35:55Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > Buy expirimones: androstenone, anol, androsterone at 5mcgs and use one spray of each. Okay…so, if I wanted to mix them together into one container, to make 1 spray of 2x, would I use the three at 15mcg each (then 1 spray of the mixture would be one-third = 5mcg), so that 1 spray would equal 15mcg? ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/out-of-stock-what-are-the-alternatives/35787/7 "2010-01-29T02:53:14Z")
> [@Sillykitty](#): > > Okay…so, if I wanted to mix them together into one container, to make 1 spray of 2x, would I use the three at 15mcg each (then 1 spray of the mixture would be one-third = 5mcg), so that 1 spray would equal 15mcg? Pretty much. If you had each of them at 15mcgs, and were to put 1.6ml (=4.8ml) of each into a 5ml to-go bottle you would get 5mcgs of each per spray. So yes, 1/3 of a bottle of each at 15 mcgs. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/out-of-stock-what-are-the-alternatives/35787/8 "2010-01-29T03:22:54Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > Pretty much. If you had each of them at 15mcgs, and were to put 1.6ml (=4.8ml) of each into a 5ml to-go bottle you would get 5mcgs of each per spray. So yes, 1/3 of a bottle of each at 15 mcgs. Alright, good to know, thanks Jesse!😃 Now I can make my own custom Alter Ego. ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/out-of-stock-what-are-the-alternatives/35787/9 "2010-01-29T03:27:30Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > Alright, good to know, thanks Jesse!😃 Now I can make my own custom Alter Ego. Im really not familiar with alter ego. Would you describe it as having similiar effects to AMMO? ---
**Author:** ![Gidders](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gidders/32/2419_2.png) [@Gidders](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gidders)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/out-of-stock-what-are-the-alternatives/35787/10 "2010-01-29T10:59:51Z")
> [@Sillykitty](#): > > Okay…so, if I wanted to mix them together into one container, to make 1 spray of 2x, would I use the three at 15mcg each (then 1 spray of the mixture would be one-third = 5mcg), so that 1 spray would equal 15mcg? That was exactly where my thinking was going Kitty 🙂 > [@jessejester](#): > > Pretty much. If you had each of them at 15mcgs, and were to put 1.6ml (=4.8ml) of each into a 5ml to-go bottle you would get 5mcgs of each per spray. So yes, 1/3 of a bottle of each at 15 mcgs. Thanks for that Jesse - have just placed an order so will give it a go > [@K-Train](#): > > Alright, good to know, thanks Jesse!😃 Now I can make my own custom Alter Ego. So what proportions would you customise to & what would be the impact of changing the balance from 1/3 … 1/3 … 1/3? ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/out-of-stock-what-are-the-alternatives/35787/11 "2010-01-29T14:39:03Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > Im really not familiar with alter ego. Would you describe it as having similiar effects to AMMO? No, AE have more None in it and is a Oil Base. My Question is how important ist rone and how much rone? Pheroproof (i don’t test ist) is like a Mutant Version of Ammo but what is difference without the rone or lower rone? ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/out-of-stock-what-are-the-alternatives/35787/12 "2010-01-30T04:06:05Z")
I think AMMO has some catalytic enzymes that makes androstenone somehow sexy but not too sexual. Intestering to know what substance or enzyme would that be. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/out-of-stock-what-are-the-alternatives/35787/13 "2010-01-30T04:15:00Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > I think AMMO has some catalytic enzymes that makes androstenone somehow sexy but not too sexual. Intestering to know what substance or enzyme would that be. I think Ammo have experimone none and the rone and the nol make it not to sexual. TUTH have more [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) and that’s make the none more sexual + without the rone and nol…