# Outta My Shell

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [January 4, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054 "2008-01-04T21:03:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 14

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 1:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/262 "2008-08-25T01:42:45Z")

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Ren, it just occured to me that you’ve already talked to a coulple of girls and you’re not even on the boat yet! 😃 🆒

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/263 "2008-08-25T16:55:18Z")

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> [@Bella](#):
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> Ren, it just occured to me that you’ve already talked to a coulple of girls and you’re not even on the boat yet!

I was thinking the same thing … he already knows some single women interested in meeting singles on a cruise … but I assumed he had his reasons for not pursuing some leads further …

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/264 "2008-08-25T18:01:37Z")

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> [@Bella](#):
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> Ren, it just occured to me that you’ve already talked to a coulple of girls and you’re not even on the boat yet! 😃 🆒

> [@bosshank](#):
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> I was thinking the same thing … he already knows some single women interested in meeting singles on a cruise … but I assumed he had his reasons for not pursuing some leads further …

No mystery guys, the travel agency that sets up the cruises maintains a forum so folks can get to know each other ahead of time if they wish. It seems to be catching on with single professional types who want a chance to cruise with a friendly group without feeling like they are third wheeling with their coupled friends.

It’s a short jump from a forum to a telephone. 😃

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**Author:** ![WhiteKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f14d63/32.png) [@WhiteKnight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WhiteKnight)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/265 "2008-08-28T09:03:36Z")

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renny, I’m a noob here and have been doing a lot of reading whilst waiting for my first shipment to arrive - I’ve found your journal to be the most entertaining 😃

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 11:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/266 "2008-08-28T11:31:38Z")

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Thanks for the compliment. There are a lot of good journals and we owe it all to “The Mad Tater” the original and still the best! Wait till you start reading the ladies journals…very educational!

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/267 "2008-09-09T18:04:16Z")

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Another flawless execution by DHL! Love those guys! I got the one mainline consumer product I’ve never tried. IJ. The ever generous April (“A”) dropped a 30 ml 50 mcg per spray neroli infused -none bomb on me for luck. I don’t have to be jealous of M-I-D’s 112.5 togo anymore 😃 . Hmm, [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) and a -none bomb…I guess April thinks IJ isn’t scary enough. 🙄

> [@Instant Jerk plus Instant Gentlemen: big smiles from female clerks on errands](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-instant-gentlemen/18764):
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> This was inspired by Gone With the Wind’s post on this mix … Instant Jerk:IGentlemen:\* I thought I’d try a little something different today. INSTANT JERK + INSTANT GENTLEMEN ( 1 spray of each to chest, 1 spray of each to head.) First stop, a business where I had to make a transaction. A woman ahead of me was dealing with the young female clerk so I waited. The young female clerk got a giant smile on her face and it stayed there. The lady she was dealing with got happy too. Then an older lady c…

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/268 "2008-09-09T18:14:30Z")

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Maybe she wants you armed to the teeth for your cruise …

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/269 "2008-09-09T18:20:58Z")

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> [@bosshank](#):
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> Maybe she wants you armed to the teeth for your cruise …

The overkill is getting embarrassing

[Outta My Shell - #2 by renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/2) :o 😃

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/270 "2008-09-09T18:23:48Z")

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LOL. Looks familiar overall … just some minor differences …

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/271 "2008-09-09T19:16:16Z")

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> [@renny](#):
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> I don’t have to be jealous of M-I-D’s 112.5 togo anymore 😃 . Hmm, Instant Jerk and a -none bomb…I guess April thinks Instant Jerk isn’t scary enough. 🙄

That’s it. Maybe I’m gonna have to pick up one of the 5,000 mcg bottles now! 🙄 😮

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 6:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/272 "2008-09-23T06:04:51Z")

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What a fantastic day! I’m holed up at a popular southeastern beach resort waiting for cruise day. I’ve been wearing SteveO’s legendary 1B mix, this one mixed by SteveO himself. I gotta fess up here and say that it’s just not meshing with me. I feel really obliged to do the best by this mix that I can but it’s not one I can work with.

I started the day with about 4 sprays and headed off to a spa appointment. New do, ponytail sent away to help somebody who needs some hair, facial,manicure, pedicure, and a bit of masochism (backwax). No pain no gain right. Anyway that was completely awesome. The sweet as pie girl who worked her magic on me really made me very comfortable and made me more handsome than I’ve ever been made before, right down to a little superman curl on my forehead. Just not feeling that there was any phero-hit though.

Next it was off to get some cruise threads. Found some great silk hawaiian print shirts and a pair of silk resort trousers. Super sweet stuff and when I checked out I was told I had a fifty dollar gift cert from some previous purchases and would I like to use it today…uh “hell yeah?” Nice but it still didn’t feel pheroish.

Then my phone rings and a buddy of mine invites me to dinner at a swank resaurant…on him. I jumped on that idea really quick. Of course a phone call ain’t a pherohit.

Lastly, I thought I would reload the 1B and hit a strip club…maybe get a good update for Data4’s testapalooza thread. Shower and 4 fresh sprays later I was off to a club. Full nude BYOB. Sat down, poured myself a stiff Canadian Mist and Sprite, and this nubian BABE sits down and starts telling me about the radical BJ she’s gonna give me in the VIP room…Dayum, is this 1B? Nope, before I can get a buzz I’ve gotten BJ offers from a “lolita schoolgirl”, a silicon enhanced little spinner whose smile revealed a penchant for crank, and a truly gorgeous auburn haired amazon wearing a kilt (nothing underneath) and a claymore. Seriously, the claymore caused faster shrinkage than the crank teeth. This was a BJ bar right here in the reddest state in the Union. I declined on all counts. Just not my scene.

I’ll keep after the 1B (and 1A) at a later date…I just can’t get a feel for the ICMs. I’ll prolly stick with the tried and true for my cruise…I’ll talk to yall in about a week!

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**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/273 "2008-09-23T06:18:05Z")

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Have fun on the cruise! So many great post in ur journal 🙂 Btw I like 1a alot!

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 7:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/274 "2008-09-23T07:49:09Z")

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> [@renny](#):
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> _ **What a fantastic day! I’m holed up at a popular southeastern beach resort waiting for cruise day.** _

What could be better! 🙂

> _ **I’ve been wearing SteveO’s legendary 1B mix, this one mixed by SteveO himself. I gotta fess up here and say that it’s just not meshing with me. I feel really obliged to do the best by this mix that I can but it’s not one I can work with.** _
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> _**I’ll keep after the 1B (and 1A) at a later date…I just can’t get a feel for the ICMs.**_
> 
> _ **I’ll prolly stick with the tried and true for my cruise…** _

Oh well, not every one’s a winner. By all means go with what ya know. The ICM’s will keep. I did OK with 1B. Though, I must confess, it’s not my favorite. Still workin’ on the 1A.

> _**New do, ponytail sent away to help somebody who needs some hair, facial,manicure, pedicure, and a bit of masochism (backwax). Anyway that was completely awesome.**_

Since you brought up the waxing…lol…see, I told you it wasn’t so bad. 😛

> _ **The sweet as pie girl made me more handsome than I’ve ever been made before** _

😮 Impossible!

> _ **right down to a little superman curl on my forehead.** _

_Ooooh_ I love the curl thing. I want pics! 😃

> _ **I’ll talk to yall in about a week!** _

That was a great report and you’re not even on the ship yet! Can’t wait to hear all about your adventures on the high seas!

Have a blast, Boo…see ya when you get back! Just watch out for that kryptonite…you naughty boy! 😃

Bella

Is a claymore what I think it is? :o If Wolf wasn’t sleeping I’d ask _him_.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/275 "2008-09-23T09:43:13Z")

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It’s interesting to hear that the mix didn’t mesh so well with you, and that it didn’t mesh that well with Bella either. I don’t know what’s in the mix, but I do know we’re all partial towards [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). Do you think that preference has anything to do with it?

Enjoy your cruise man, we’ll see you when you get back. 🙂

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 12:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/276 "2008-09-23T12:42:35Z")

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Sorry to hear that the 1b aint meshing with ya Renny, but I think the ship oughta get ya over it real quick! 🙂

Maybe try wearing the 1a mix and adding a couple sprays of 1b. That’s worked pretty well for me.

The 1b mix contains BetaNol, P83, TAA, P74 and [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/).

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/277 "2008-09-23T19:41:33Z")

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Thanks Mark. It looks like a straight forward mix to me. Surprised it didn’t mesh well despite the bnol. I guess the ratios need to be tweaked a little for Renny.

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**Author:** ![Seraphim54](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/seraphim54/32/514_2.png) [@Seraphim54](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Seraphim54)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 1:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/278 "2008-09-24T13:40:42Z")

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> [@renny](#):
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> Hello Pherotalkers,
> 
> I’ve been debating a journal for a while now. The main reason I haven’t before is that I am a perfectly boring, mild mannered, romantically challenged, soon to be 46 year old shopkeeper.
> 
> I’m M-B INTP with a heavy emphasis on the introverted part. :o Walk into my store and you might think I was the most outgoing person you ever met. Dale Carnegie and Nightingale-Conant can work wonders but they don’t really do much for your love life. In fact they can make you seem a little gay. I’m not bashing gay, it’s just that I’m not and being perceived that way is not good for an introvert’s ego. I made up my mind about this time last year to change all that.
> 
> The first thing I had to do was lose enough weight to feel at least moderately attractive. Walking everyday and learning to stay out of drive thru’s has helped enormously in that dept. Learning to translate that winning Dale Carnegie personality into a flirting, cocky funny, guy that gets the girls is step 2. The examples on this forum (you guys know who you are) along with the sites, books and forums you all have generously posted about are helping me to do that.
> 
> Step 3 is simply getting out of my shell and doing it. This is a small town and if I started hanging out in the only bar and hitting on the biker chicks I doubt I would be around very long. 😮 I would also be afraid of what my customer base might think. I’m starting a night class at my local CC…beginning Spanish to be exact. I doubt it will be a fertile ground for babe hunting in and of itself, but it should be a place to start making acquaintances with the single population in a subtle but productive way.
> 
> So this journal is about renny learning the ropes of socializing. Pheromones will be the focus of course. I wasn’t really planning to take my life in this direction when I first ran across this forum. My initial interest in pheros was the business/sales/Dale Carnegie aspect. You PUAs and assorted bad boys and girls have inspired me to try again. Thank you and I hope this journal can in some way pay you back or at least pass it on.

Hey dude…I live in a small town too and with the money I’m investing in 'nomes and an expensive David Deangelo “out of your shell” course, I’m wondering where the heck I’m gonna put it to use lol. The town I live in happens to be home to a major state university, and it loaded with beautiful college girls. Problem is, I’m 54…I’m gonna hit on college girls? I suppose I could get lucky but I’d really feel like an ass trying lol.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/279 "2008-09-25T13:56:25Z")

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The trick is to do it without looking like you are …

Of course I am not sure how you would do that but it sounds good …lol.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/280 "2008-09-25T14:06:53Z")

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> [@Bella](#):
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> Is a claymore what I think it is?

Probably yes - M18A1 - It is a 7 inch by 4 inch by 1 inch (roughly) piece of explosive (C4) bent in a slight arc with lots of ball bearings (700 or so) on one side - all covered in plastic.

Not your average stripper decor …

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/281 "2008-09-25T14:09:11Z")

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> [@bosshank](#):
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> The trick is to do it without looking like you are …
> 
> Of course I am not sure how you would do that but it sounds good …lol.

Go to the campus and pick your targets, then walk up and say to them: Hey let me ask you a quick question, if I were to take a class here do you think I’d be accepted, or would I end up being a lone wolf?

If the girl’s at all intrigued you just got a foot in the door to continue a conversation. If she answers and quickly tries to walk off, go find someone else to ask. 🙂

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