# Outta My Shell **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [January 4, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054 "2008-01-04T21:03:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/61 "2008-02-06T02:16:12Z")
> [@renny](#): > > 10, UH YES, 10 sprays Turn Up The Heat. Dude.šŸ†’ > [@renny](#): > > I havenā€™t gone pherobomb in a long time and thought what the heck, Iā€™m gonna shake something loose in that class if it kills me. Sometimes ya gotta go postal. šŸ˜® Sorry Tish. Just a phrase.šŸ˜› > [@renny](#): > > "( _GULP_!) (_Do it dumbass!_)( _Three second rule!)( Be in the moment!)._ I spun my seat around around. Congratulations!! You did it. > [@renny](#): > > ā€œYea, I kinda did my boyfriend had just asked me to MARRY him! LOOK!ā€ She brandished a brilliant solitare in my face. That bastard Murphey again.šŸ˜  > [@renny](#): > > Now that should have freaked me completely out. Nope. I just went right on with the conversation. The rest of the class was a blast. Way to go not tripping out and carrying the conversation through. You are one smooth ā€¦ dude. Thank you TAC. > [@renny](#): > > I did note some flushing and other ā€œpointedā€ signs of arousal in the women around me (all married, eighteen, or unmercifully tattooed). Dude x2!! šŸ†’ > [@renny](#): > > "I feel like going to the biker bar and flirting with the crank chicks. Go for it!! > [@renny](#): > > "TAC and -none together have potential. They seem to work very well together. That could be a major selling point: None and TAC together: A winning combination. And if you do OD and some big alpha starts whooping your butt you will will be in such a hilarious mood you wonā€™t care - lol.šŸ˜® > [@renny](#): > > "Oh, I got an ā€œAā€ on the test. šŸ˜ƒ Congratulations again.šŸ˜ƒ Great post as always Renny. Proud of the immediate conversation with Laura. Kudos as always. ---
**Author:** ![codemax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/codemax/32/5173_2.png) [@codemax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/codemax)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/62 "2008-02-06T17:58:21Z")
yay, a new update! im happy to hear about the ice breaking with the icy ice queen. great use of timing and momentum IMHO. can i be the little skeptic for a second here though? iā€™m sure the pheroā€™s didnt set you back, but it sounds like this was mostly balls and renny. you prolly would have gotten the same from her without the mix you had on. just a hunchā€¦ have you tried this mix again and at other places, or did you use it all up before the class šŸ™‚? ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/63 "2008-02-06T19:25:03Z")
Comrad, I donā€™t guess we ever know how much to credit pheromones. She never sat behind me before and there was no real reason for her to do so last night. No pheromone would have changed the outcome of course. The real point is that I wore 25mcg of -none with no tensionā€¦either my own or from others. Iā€™m 99% sure the -none affected most of the women in the class. Whether they went home thinking ā€œGod, renny sure smelled sexy tonight.ā€ or if they just thought ā€œWhat the h\*ll is going on with my hormones?ā€ Iā€™ll never know of course. From the reactions I think I got at least partial credit. The other thing is the ā€œhilarityā€ effect of the TAC. Itā€™s been reported and Iā€™ve been looking for it but didnā€™t really understand what I was looking for. Now I get it. The ā€œdevil may careā€ attitude was very much on display from everyone even Teach. Did I test the mix beforehand? No, I did hit myself with some big doses of TUTH for a few days before to make sure my tolerance was up, but nothing close to 10 sprays. And yes I used it all. No I havenā€™t tried this mix anywhere else. Probably wonā€™t. I donā€™t really like the idea of making big mixes from consumer products. Is this the end of my adventures? Heck no! The class is a great lab for pheromone testing and it is fun having a place to spread the fumes. I wonā€™t be hoping to date anyone else in there though. The other single girl of decent maturity seems to have dropped out. Iā€™ll be sticking to the [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/), no sense in creating tension without purpose. My main desire here was confidence building and getting to know some new people. Iā€™ve gotten plenty of both. ---
**Author:** ![phernoob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phernoob/32/180_2.png) [@phernoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phernoob)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/64 "2008-02-06T21:33:50Z")
Loved reading your posts. You seem like a cool guy. Canā€™t wait to read more! ---
**Author:** ![codemax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/codemax/32/5173_2.png) [@codemax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/codemax)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/65 "2008-02-06T21:51:36Z")
> [@renny](#): > > The other single girl of decent maturity seems to have dropped out. > [@renny](#): > > My main desire here was confidence building and getting to know some new people. Iā€™ve gotten plenty of both. oh, too bad tho:/ but hey, still sounds like mission accomplished on the confidence thing, huh? šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/66 "2008-02-07T00:13:12Z")
Iā€™m curious about TAC. Havenā€™t tried it yet. So as a guy, how would you say TAC affects you, Renny? ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/67 "2008-02-07T01:03:15Z")
Hey Renny great journal man and congratulations on your successes! I am yet to get much out from TAC, although in a mix it does seem to be making women more comfortable around me than usual.šŸ˜› One thing I am curious to see is your results is with A314 + reasonable none + your (P74 +TAL) mix + **lots** of Androstenol (you might even want to spray in armpits for enhanced diffusion). Anyways, try it when you can. Donā€™t wreck what you already got going though!šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/68 "2008-02-07T01:11:26Z")
> [@renny](#): > > ā€¦The real point is that I wore 25mcg of -none with no tensionā€¦either my own or from othersā€¦ Old fellers like us can get away with it. Look at my latest basecoat 1.1 mix. > [@The Basecoat Approach](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-basecoat-approach/4425/13): > > Basecoat Mix 1.1 Iā€™ve been using this stuff on a consistent basis. Iā€™ve gravitated to mix 2.0 for work situations, but for non-work situations I still often use 1.0, which is heavier in nols. This morning I was putting on some of batch 1.0 and the sprayer started sucking air. That means Iā€™ve gone through 30 ml since the first post in this thread. I like it well enough that Iā€™m going to whip up another 30 ml of batch 1 later today. Later---- Since Iā€™ve pretty much settled down on two sprays oā€¦ 25 mcg of anone in one spray. Total 150 mcg pheromones per spray. No need to soak yourself in alcohol carrier. I regularly put other stuff on top of that. For business I use basecoat 2.0 with toned down nols. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/69 "2008-02-07T19:10:18Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > Iā€™m curious about TAC. Havenā€™t tried it yet. So as a guy, how would you say TAC affects you, Renny? Hey Kitten thanks for reading my journal. Iā€™m posting things I think are attributable to TAC here [TAC tactics](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tac-tactics/8605/1) Iā€™m hoping some guys who have used it more can put up some more specific ideas about it. Seems to be a very vague but awesome pheromone. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/70 "2008-02-07T19:22:13Z")
Nbully, Iā€™ll try that! I very much appreciate the work you have done here and on your blog. Thank you for it. GwtW, I have found that unbuffered TUTH usually lowers my annoyance tolerance. I havenā€™t really tried to push my use of it very high. Iā€™ll reread your basecoat posts. I do think that with practice I could wear large amounts without any effects. Iā€™m a calm person by nature and pushing the envelope a bit is exactly what I need to do. Thanks everyone for your replies and reps! ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/71 "2008-02-08T06:58:38Z")
> [@renny](#): > > I do think that with practice I could wear large amounts without any effects. That is what I found although I can be somewhat aggresive by nature. What I have found is that after all this time using 'none it makes me more aggressive socially but I make sure it is in a positive manner: more likely to speak with people, more likely to speak with a stranger, more likely to tell jokes, etc.. Mind you I ma like this already, but I have learned to ride the " 'none rush " to be just that much more. Just like you learn to ride the adrenaline rush going into other situations. And it certainly does not hurt with the Mrs. either. > [@renny](#): > > Iā€™m a calm person by nature and pushing the envelope a bit is exactly what I need to do. Most people see the most personal growth when they step outside their comfort zone to do something positive. That is when they learn they are better than they thought they were because they learn they CAN do something they were afraid to do, thought they could never do, or learned something that has given them a new understanding. > [@renny](#): > > Thanks everyone for your replies and reps! You are welcome and we will all try to keep you well ahead!! ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 10:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/72 "2008-02-09T10:00:18Z")
> [@renny](#): > > _Damnation!_ So weā€™ve got this exam. Now folks itā€™s been a while since I was in school of any kind. Back in the day though I ALWAYS finished tests before anybody in the class (at least after I went to public school šŸ˜› ). \*No mere chick gets ahead of me. If I have to study between classes, I will. \* Tsk, tskā€¦I think _you_ may have to stay _after class_, Mister!! šŸ˜® > [@renny](#): > > Oh, I got an ā€œAā€ on the test. šŸ˜ƒ well, maybe notā€¦ šŸ˜ƒ Congratulations on coming ā€˜outta your shellā€™, renny! Iā€™ve been meaning to poke my nose in and tell you Iā€™ve really been enjoying your journal! So, whatā€™s your _next_ class gonna be? ā€¦Body Art 101? šŸ˜‰ Bella ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/73 "2008-02-13T02:12:50Z")
> [@](#): > > ā€¦Body Art 101? šŸ˜‰ I fear Iā€™m risking a Wolf attack here, but what the heckā€¦Are you teaching the class Bella? šŸ˜› šŸ˜ƒ Onwards. In replying to this thread by ACCO202 [TAL experienced users](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-experienced-users/9071), I realized that I needed a bit of my own prescription. So for the next couple of weeks Iā€™m going with a strict 2 drops A314 + 2 sprays IO and vary a dose of TAL. Somehow I get the feeling that small amounts of TAL on a guy can give a real boost to his signature. I suppose it may give the message that one has close ties to strong women. That could be a real display of power. Getting back to a stricter test program will be good phero phorm as well. Itā€™s just so easy to get carried away with this stuff. Discipline is boring but highly effective. Class tonite with 5 mcg of TAL- good, the IO does lighten the a314 + TAL vibe better than the [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) I tried before. Once I finish this run I know Iā€™m gonna want to add P74 back in. Married alpha woman type classmate held a door for me and walked with me to my car after class. We often speak on our way out but this had a ā€œcomraderieā€ vibe. Not inappropriate at all. Iā€™ll make sure to run without the TAL Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![codemax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/codemax/32/5173_2.png) [@codemax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/codemax)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/74 "2008-02-13T05:22:21Z")
> [@renny](#): > > Getting back to a stricter test program will be good phero phorm as well. Itā€™s just so easy to get carried away with this stuff. Discipline is boring but highly effective. iā€™d have to say that you are so right here. iā€™ve been going noob crazy with all sorts of mixing. and iā€™d have to say iā€™ve gotten great results that i was going for. however, i do believe that effects are highly personalized and depend on a myriad of factors. so props for the back to KISS approach! and cant wait for more stories from ya šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 7:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/75 "2008-02-13T07:42:07Z")
> [@renny](#): > > I fear Iā€™m risking a Wolf attack here, but what the heckā€¦Are you teaching the class Bella? šŸ˜› šŸ˜ƒ ā€¦sign up and find outā€¦ šŸ†’ ---
**Author:** ![Kusro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f05b48/32.png) [@Kusro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kusro)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 9:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/76 "2008-02-13T09:36:18Z")
Renny, Nice journal keep us informed! Bella, I am signing up for the class before all spots are taken. šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/77 "2008-02-17T16:56:30Z")
> [@renny](#): > > Somehow I get the feeling that small amounts of TAL on a guy can give a real boost to his signature. I suppose it may give the message that one has close ties to strong women. My thoughts as well. I have both TAL and TAH and have been meaning to get around to testing with them a bit. I was thinking more along the lines that adding low levels to a mix could bring out the alpha or affectionate qualities in women though, rather than women seeing me as having these type of ties. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 3:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/78 "2008-02-19T03:34:08Z")
Renny - we need an update!! ---
**Author:** ![codemax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/codemax/32/5173_2.png) [@codemax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/codemax)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/79 "2008-02-19T04:26:22Z")
isnt the class on tuesdays? ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054/80 "2008-02-19T07:29:59Z")
Might be - but renny has a whole lot more going on in life than just Tuesday nights. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/outta-my-shell/8054.md?page=5)