# Overcoming the fear of approach **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 4, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overcoming-the-fear-of-approach/61051 "2014-02-04T00:48:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MasterShake](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mastershake/32/729_2.png) [@MasterShake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MasterShake)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overcoming-the-fear-of-approach/61051/1 "2014-02-04T00:48:24Z")
Hi all I guess I’m not the only one who has expirienced some sort of tension or fear when deciding to approach a woman. Some people mentioned, that [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) has a good Self-Effect to counter these unwanted feelings. What do you think? Is P75 the way to go? Are there other mones with a noticeable self-effect( that could help in this situation)? ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overcoming-the-fear-of-approach/61051/2 "2014-02-04T01:36:12Z")
Best way to get rid of fear of approach is to realize that nothing bad will happen to you. Think about it this way, you go up to her and she says no. You walk away. Nothing happens. You go up and talk to her and she ignores you. You walk away. Nothing happens. You go up to her she and says yes, you get the number. Basically just go up and say hi. If she’s not interested she’ll let you know very quickly. Girls that are interested love this stuff because then they’re all like “we met in a coffee shop just like in the movies” In other words, pheros not necessary. ---
**Author:** ![thz2310](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thz2310/32/756_2.png) [@thz2310](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thz2310)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overcoming-the-fear-of-approach/61051/3 "2014-02-04T02:53:40Z")
Watch this: [How to Approach Anyone | Nick Sparks | Full Length HD - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBhxkOai2HM) It helped me a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Newbie777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e36b37/32.png) [@Newbie777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Newbie777)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 6:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overcoming-the-fear-of-approach/61051/4 "2014-02-04T06:10:28Z")
> [@MasterShake](#): > > Hi all > I guess I’m not the only one who has expirienced some sort of tension or fear when deciding to approach a woman. > Some people mentioned, that P75 has a good Self-Effect to counter these unwanted feelings. > What do you think? Is P75 the way to go? Are there other mones with a noticeable self-effect( that could help in this situation)? I’ve never tried p75 so I do not know. I think [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) may be helpful in building non-verbal rapport and that may help with the tension part. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 8:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overcoming-the-fear-of-approach/61051/5 "2014-02-04T08:51:16Z")
Don’t assume any phero will have self effects till you have tried it. These do vary hugely between individuals. And thz is right - Any non-phero based approach to overcoming the collywobbles will be a lot better and far more permanent than a phero-based approach. The pheros will then act in a supporting role and help make it all more effective/reliable. ---
**Author:** ![Jonny38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Jonny38](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jonny38)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 10:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overcoming-the-fear-of-approach/61051/6 "2014-02-04T10:14:25Z")
If you really want to look at something to help enhance self therapy then look at using Phenibut. Its no miracle but can chill you out without losing mental focus. I cant guarantee it will work for you but I have found it useful in stressful situations like Job interviews etc. As above answers its something you have to work at. Hey remember its really easy to think that the girl you approach is super confindent and cool but she is probably just good at hiding her anxiety. If she’s worth bothering with she should be prepared to accomodate your awkwardness, some girls find it appealing that they are having this effect on a man. Kind of “Mmm..He really must like me” vibe ---
**Author:** ![Alphonse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@Alphonse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alphonse)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overcoming-the-fear-of-approach/61051/7 "2014-02-04T14:48:14Z")
[P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) is great for this. It’s probably the best putative/mone that is sold by AD for initial attraction and getting rid of social and approach anxiety. I find that the self affects do disappear after time after one becomes accustomed to it, but you may avoid this by using it infrequently. Put on 2.5mcgs, do 10-20 cold approaches. Repeat ten times on separate occasions. Your approach anxiety will not be an issue any more. From a practical point of view, start conversations with everyone you meet, not just attractive women. Learn something interesting about them. Eventually you’ll find yourself opening women without even thinking about it because you’ll realise people are just bloody interesting, even the ones you may not think have much to offer. A. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overcoming-the-fear-of-approach/61051/8 "2014-02-04T16:56:22Z")
> [@MasterShake](#): > > Hi all > I guess I’m not the only one who has expirienced some sort of tension or fear when deciding to approach a woman. > Some people mentioned, that P75 has a good Self-Effect to counter these unwanted feelings. > What do you think? Is P75 the way to go? Are there other mones with a noticeable self-effect( that could help in this situation)? [Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) can help with approach anxiety, however to me P75 doesn’t help, it lowers/eliminates the anxiety but it doesn’t motivate approaching, the self-effect is too aloof and lack of interest. I recommend MX297 in social settings - the self-effect forces you to be social and motivates you to approach and talk to people. In daytime situations I recommend 10-30mcg P74 for approachability. ---
**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overcoming-the-fear-of-approach/61051/9 "2014-02-04T17:31:08Z")
Lucid Dreaming is the best way imo. That and meditation, if you don’t already do it to achieve lucid dreams. Your brain connects neurons the same way as if it was reality (or at least almost the same), so you can just keep approaching there and lose most or all of your fear to do it in reality. Alternatively, you can rush into it and give approaching a try - the first few times are almost guaranteed to go awkward, and most people run dry emotionally rather quick if they get zero success (which is normal) - leaving them feeling even worse than before their first approach and giving up. If, however, you get a fair “success rate”, the snowball will start growing. This can be the fastest way to get over it (assuming you can’t lucid dream yet and would have to learn it). And people say nothing bad can come out of it, but there is risk. Aside from losing self-respects, confidence etc. there are also false allegations of rape and sexual harassment and the like. I know two people personally who have been banned from the same mall for approaching a woman - in a genuine, not-too-sexual way, which the woman enjoyed. Reason: sexual harassment. And if any woman claims that you harassed her and you’re male, you’re screwed. You’re guilty until proven innocent. Welcome to today’s world, where male privilege exists everywhere 😉 I’d try option 1! Oh, and don’t learn “game”. Please. If you understand why, you won’t need it anymore. If you don’t need it anymore, your fear will mostly disappear. ---
**Author:** ![Jonny38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Jonny38](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jonny38)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2014, 1:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overcoming-the-fear-of-approach/61051/10 "2014-02-05T13:15:44Z")
> [@thz2310](#): > > Watch this: [How to Approach Anyone | Nick Sparks | Full Length HD - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBhxkOai2HM) > > It helped me a lot. Superb post got round to watching this last night: Some classic points explained eloquently Reps for post: ---
**Author:** ![thz2310](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thz2310/32/756_2.png) [@thz2310](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thz2310)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overcoming-the-fear-of-approach/61051/11 "2014-02-07T22:21:58Z")
> [@Jonny38](#): > > Superb post got round to watching this last night: Some classic points explained eloquently > > Reps for post: Thanks for the reps. This video, along with some of his other ones and the book How to Win Friends and Influence people (it isn’t manipulative like it sounds) by Dale Carnegie, have helped me tremendously in social situations. When I wear mones now I usually forget that I even have them on. I do notice some different effects on people, but if I get a good reaction I chalk it up to the moods of me and the other person, if I don’t get a good reaction, I just accept that is how it is sometimes. I never even think about blaming the mones. They are tremendous tools, but they don’t do anything by themselves. If you workout, think of mones like supplements. You can drink all the fucking protein and creatine that you want, but if you don’t go to the gym and lift the weights with all you’ve got then you aren’t going to gain any muscle. Just like if you have the perfect pheromone dosage, but you don’t say anything to anyone, you can’t expect to make friends or attract anyone. I know that it has been repeated on these boards countless times, but confidence is literally everything. And lately as mine has been growing, I am starting to become addicted to things that increase it. When it comes to interacting with women, they may be attracted to you initially based on your looks, but if you show that you don’t have confidence they will quickly rule you out. Conversely, if a woman finds you unattractive, but if you start a conversation with her and show her that you have some wicked confidence, you will become significantly more attractive to her, because in the end that is the most important thing to them (and it should be to you too when you’re looking for a partner). That is not to say that just because you are confident every woman will be attracted to you, but it will significantly increase the number of women that are. One last thing I want to add to what I have already said is that if you have stumbled upon these products and this forum because you struggle with socializing, do not waste your money thinking that wearing a scent will fix that. I have used them on and off for 3 or so years now, and I have wasted a decent amount of money thinking that these products would cure my social anxiety. Only now, as I have JUST BEGUN to start socializing with other people, have I started to notice the true effects of pheromones. Now that I am not completely anti-social anymore pheromones have started to act as a catalyst, speeding up the process from introvert to extrovert. But without the work that I have put into my own thoughts and behaviors I would still be wasting money on pheromones. So please, before you waste any more of your money, work on your self some if you have trouble socializing.