# Overdose? 10 sprays of TUTH plus Ammo, IS, IH and IFM and I saw no effects **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 7, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595 "2008-11-07T03:47:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bthssnb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@bthssnb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bthssnb)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/1 "2008-11-07T03:47:11Z")
Ok so I feel pretty confident that I used enough -none to overdose today, but did not see any effects of doing so. I used 1x [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) to the chest, 1 x IS to the chest, 1x, IH to the wrists, an IFM to the inside of the elbows, and 10x TUTH. Now i varied from a group of 79 girls aged 18-21 to an uncrowded bar with women aged 21-39, and saw no effects what so ever, no negative no positive… I feel like 10 sprays of TUTH should be plenty to overdose especially for somene my age (22). Any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 4:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/2 "2008-11-07T04:12:55Z")
You did OD on the TUTH. What can happen with a major OD is what we call the Ghost Effect or Ghosting. What happens is that your phero-signature is so strong everyone subconsciously ignores it and you in the process. You become almost invisible, almost like you are not there - which is almost what it sounds like happened from your comment. My suggestion would be to just use one spray of Ammo and skip the TUTH as an opening gambit. The ladies have described the message Ammo sends as “I am interested” nad that of TUTH as “I want to do you now”. Needless to say they said the TUTH message out of the context of an intimate relationship is not the message they want to get from a stranger or someone they just met. ---
**Author:** ![bthssnb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@bthssnb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bthssnb)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/3 "2008-11-07T04:26:20Z")
There was no ghost effect, everyone I interacted with conversed with me as normal. No effect at all, it was a normal day as if any other, nothing out of the ordinary at all. ---
**Author:** ![dapg01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b3f665/32.png) [@dapg01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dapg01)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/4 "2008-11-07T04:30:28Z")
That’s strange because I would figure that just by the strong neroli smell of 10 applications of turn up the heat, plus the smell of the IS, honesty and ammo I would think people would have at least reacted to the fact that you must have reaked of neroli! ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/5 "2008-11-07T04:32:25Z")
I did not mean to say they would not speak to you if you spoke to them, but rather emphasize that the phero-signature is so strong that people just subconciously “turn it off” … ---
**Author:** ![bthssnb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@bthssnb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bthssnb)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/6 "2008-11-07T04:32:44Z")
Well I have one female friend who told me i smelled amazing, but she has a ridiculous sense of smell anyways so i don’t think much of it. She also was completely aware of my wearing [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). ---
**Author:** ![xxBHANSONxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/f07891/32.png) [@xxBHANSONxx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xxBHANSONxx)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/7 "2010-06-25T16:28:02Z")
> [@bthssnb](#): > > Well I have one female friend who told me i smelled amazing, but she has a ridiculous sense of smell anyways so i don’t think much of it. She also was completely aware of my wearing pheromones. If she was aware, I believe that instantly kills any subconcious effect you would have instilled depending on what you used. You would be viewed as the same person by her. Same thing goes for friends/family who know who you are regardless of what you are wearing. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/8 "2010-06-25T16:48:39Z")
Could it partially be IFM and the effects of the A1, maybe the calming effect? I’ve worn upto 30 mcg’s of none (MX301) and I’ve had great results with it. ---
**Author:** ![BrianH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/74df32/32.png) [@BrianH](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BrianH)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 1:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/9 "2010-06-27T13:22:03Z")
I feel pretty confident thread starter didn’t actually test that out, and is trolling lol. ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/10 "2010-06-27T14:47:04Z")
> [@BrianH](#): > > I feel pretty confident thread starter didn’t actually test that out, and is trolling lol. I’m not certain but I’m tending to agree, Yeah I agree with bossshank…last week I had 6 sprays of MX301 like 30mcgs of none and I might as well not have been wearing anything, got nothing good, nothing bad… ---
**Author:** ![kroma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5e925/32.png) [@kroma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kroma)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/11 "2010-06-27T15:10:53Z")
Ya…i would never wear a lot because. 1. your wasting your money and empting the bottle faster. 2. pheromones are suppose to enhance your personality, not take over like some magic spell! ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/12 "2010-06-27T16:07:42Z")
thread is almost 2 years old. But it still is the common question. How much is too much. I’m curious about how an OD of none can be buffered and how one can salvage an OD from being a complete catastrophe. 10 TUTH sprays is bit much though lol ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/13 "2010-06-27T16:14:46Z")
Rubbing alcohol on the spot or shower all together to start with a clean slate. ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/14 "2010-06-27T16:16:56Z")
> [@hoplessly](#): > > thread is almost 2 years old. > > But it still is the common question. How much is too much. I’m curious about how an OD of none can be buffered and how one can salvage an OD from being a complete catastrophe. > > 10 TUTH sprays is bit much though lol In my experience you can’t recover…you just live with it for the time being and do what Jabez said, and just take a shower and start over. ---
**Author:** ![kroma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5e925/32.png) [@kroma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kroma)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/15 "2010-06-27T16:17:32Z")
well it says on the website to use 1-5…washing myself with 10-20 sprays..seems to be pointless..as you don’t do that with normal cologne do you? ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/16 "2010-06-27T16:19:15Z")
Yah. The only thing that works for me. Don’t forget though you do want to OD at least once to know the effects and how to avoid it. ODing is important to gauge how much is too much and how much is just right ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/17 "2010-06-27T16:46:35Z")
Hehe, Happy, I often wondered about your testing approach. It seems similar to your bootcamp experiences of just going right out there to crash or fly. Go for broke. You said you like to pile it on and see if you can od on a mix and work your way down instead of the other way around. It’s definitely an interesting approach. ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/18 "2010-06-27T16:52:36Z")
Well what ever works for you I guess ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/19 "2010-06-27T16:58:48Z")
since I’ve never used IJ how different exactly are the signals from say one spray of instant jerk vs 6 sprays of TuTH or 3 sprays of TuTH2X? I Know they each have unique steering molecules but what does the signal say that different enough to make 15 mcg of IJ a standard dose and 15 mcg of TuTH an overdose? ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595/20 "2010-06-27T17:02:09Z")
> [@hoplessly](#): > > Hehe, Happy, > > I often wondered about your testing approach. It seems similar to your bootcamp experiences of just going right out there to crash or fly. Go for broke. > > You said you like to pile it on and see if you can od on a mix and work your way down instead of the other way around. > > It’s definitely an interesting approach. Yeah, cause I’m older Im 34 so my body produces less none, with none products what might be a overestimation for someone 15 years younger will be on point for me. That why when I got AMMO (2x) i first used 3 sprays…which actually turned out to be fantastic! I tried less sprays after that and didn’t get those…“stop dead in your tracks and drool at me looks” like I did with 3. Also you get instant results. Where as the other way around It would have taken me 3 or 4 days. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdose-10-sprays-of-tuth-plus-ammo-is-ih-and-ifm-and-i-saw-no-effects/22595.md?page=2)