# Overdue: EST, MEO-EST, and Further P83+P74+P79 testing. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 29, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdue-est-meo-est-and-further-p83-p74-p79-testing/10577 "2008-03-29T23:46:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1
**Author:** ![Eslite119](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eslite119/32/176_2.png) [@Eslite119](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eslite119)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdue-est-meo-est-and-further-p83-p74-p79-testing/10577/1 "2008-03-29T23:46:07Z")
I’m having a long weekend after several weeks of business trips, and thought to post some results. During the past month, I’ve been testing EST and MEO-EST on on-off basis, so here it is: **EST:** In general, I believe EST tends to create that protect vibe. In other words, people exposed to EST get a sense that they need to “protect” the wearer of this [pheromone](https://a314.com/). This tends to create a different type of respect (in contrast to Androsterone), where people exposed to it let you “have it your way.” However, this type of vibe or the protect vibe is not always good IMHO as it leads some people to undermine you in the process. I’m sure I confused some readers at this point, so let me give you my most recent example. EST at Poker night: Dosage: 4 sprays of EST (200mcg) all applied to hair. Applied 3 hours before the event. Last weekend, I was to get together with some people that I’ve known since high school. Haven’t seen them since then, but we sort of had a reunion. I’ve worn pheros couple times to Poker games, and some of the pheros used were P74 and A314. By no means I used pheros to swindle money from others, but just happened to had the old applications on and ran into a poker game by coincidence. This time was different. I applied EST mainly to test it out to see what happens and also to confirm some of my theories on this phero. At the table, there were some people that I was not familiar with and we had 10 total; 4 females and 6 males including myself. Third hand, flipped my card and I saw pocket kings. Good so far. 7 out of 10 folded and the flop reveals 2 kings and 1 Jack. At this point I know I won, so I observe the other two players and see their reactions. One folds and other one stays and bets. I raise and he calls. Turn reveals a card, but I really don’t remember what it was (does it matter?). My opponent, who had more chips than I, calls whatever I had left, so I call. Crowd goes wild after seeing my cards, and I sweep the table. A female player next to me, doesn’t compliment me, but rather teaches me as to how to play poker (you should’ve done this, that, blah blah blah). I kinda ignore her. On the 7th or the 8th hand (sorry can’t remember), I get a full house on the river and once again I was up against only one player (person I know well). This opponent was telling me to fold 😕 rather than enticing me to go all in. He’s saying that he didn’t want me to lose money and so forth, but he was expressing it in a way that made me believe that he meant it. Eventually he goes all in and I call. He had 3 of a kind and I sweep the table again. At this point I was the chip leader. A female player, again, teaches me as to how I should play poker. This time I got annoyed and some people on the table caught on. The table split into two when debating. One part was saying, “leave \_\_\_\_\_ alone he’s trying to have a good time,” while the rest was saying, “I don’t want \_\_\_\_ to lose money.” Ummmm excuse me? A lot went through my mind and ultimately ruined my mood to continue on. I won more hands afterwards, but I was thrown off course and just couldn’t concentrate. After the little debate, I got a sense that I really didn’t belong there; people seemed to act as if they were playing amongst 9 adults and 1 high school student. Maybe I’m over analyzing, but I didn’t like the vibe I got. But then again the other 9 played amongst themselves before and this was my first time joining their group. I wanted to quit, but since this was a first time playing with this crowd, I decided not to cash out my winnings. I steadily and purposefully (believe it or not) lost the subsequent hands. Very different experience compared to my previous poker games. When wearing P74 and especially A314, I got the respect. People took me seriously and characterized me as a disciplined player. Once again, EST tends to create that “protect” vibe. I think the female player next to me was giving me advices, regardless of my winnings, strictly out of concern as did some other players. However, she didn’t seem to realize that she was undermining me in the process. When she was commenting as to “should you be doing this? or that?” she was completely forgetting the fact that 1) it was my money that was at risk and 2) I can make decisions of my own. It was as if the entire table was like mommy and daddy trying to tell the kid how to spend his allowance. Conclusion: EST is not the type of phero that I’m looking for. However, I think female users will benefit much more if they use it. **Mix: P83+P74+P79:** In a togo bottle, from my usual mix I took out P86 and did the following: 4 parts P83 15mcgs 4 parts P74 10mcgs 4 parts P79 10mcgs Worked wonders on some shy Asian girls and tends to break their normal behavior. Yesterday, I met a girl that I’ve known in high school. She’s younger than I am and I know with certainty that she’s interested in me. We went to same college as each other for the first two years, but ever since high school we haven’t kept in touch. She’s very innocent, tame, ambitious, but shy for the most part and she always had trouble speaking to me directly for the past several years. This is new! When I met her last night while hanging out with my friends, she was glancing at me first for several minutes. Then she made a bee line towards me, waved and then said hi. I responded in a same manner, and we started talking. Funny thing is that it was her who was leading the conversation and I just tagged along. I’ve seen her on and off basis ever since high school, but this was something new that I’ve not seen in her. She even tried to invite me to hang out with her. This break in normal behavior, I gotta attribute it to P83. Speaking of P83, I’m beginning to think that it causes “brain lapse” on some people. Visionary has detailed report on this subject matter, and more and more I test it I tend to agree with the fact that P83 is best at creating DIHL. Last Sunday, I went to church wearing 4 sprays from the mix above. At the end of service when I was about to exit, this person who is (I’m sorry to say) mentally challenged as other members have described, who sat at least 20ft away from where I was at, made a bee line towards me and hugged me 😕. I was little stunned. Now, I do not know this person nor have I ever socialized with him. The church was bustling with almost 500-600 moving all at once, and this particular individual somehow spotted me within the huge crowd. Not particularly interesting, but this certainly made me wonder exactly what implication that P83 might have on one’s psychology. That same day, while I was congregating with other members, one male in his 30s approached me to say hi. He asked me how I was doing and so forth, but after the strings of questions he just paused and looked at me for like 30 seconds. It was very awkard and once again I gotta attribute this brain lapse to P83. **MEO-EST:** I bought this like several months ago, and didn’t test it out much. I still need to do much testing to at least get a grasp of what this phero does, but I think my report on this one is little overdue so here it goes: I own a 15mcg spray of this phero. Wore 2 sprays usually and have witnessed three occassions when people exposed to it reported to me having a minor migraine. I wore this at a party the other day thinking of doing heavy test. I wore 4 sprays, a total of 60 mcgs all applied to my hair. I met some individuals that I haven’t spoken for like a year or so, but I grew up with these people and they know me well. Funny thing is that I was standing right next to them and they didn’t recognize who I was. Nothing drastic has changed on me since the past year. I eventually made my approach and said hi, and they were really surprised. They were saying, “OMG I didn’t recognize you!” Interesting, as we only haven’t seen each other for like a year or possibly less and nothing really changed since then. All three individuals responded in similar manner, and they weren’t trying to avoid me or anything by putting a fake act. Now I want to ask those people who used MEO-EST before: Have you ever encountered similar situation like the one above? Anyways, thanks for reading my long post and as always I welcome feedbacks. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdue-est-meo-est-and-further-p83-p74-p79-testing/10577)._