# Oxytocin and androstenol beta- thoughts?.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 8, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-and-androstenol-beta-thoughts/24665 "2009-01-08T21:03:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sailor4UK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sailor4uk/32/1350_2.png) [@Sailor4UK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sailor4UK)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-and-androstenol-beta-thoughts/24665/1 "2009-01-08T21:03:38Z")
I hope ive posted this in the right section (if not please move). Just wondering… Is Oxytocin (main pheromone in Liquid Trust) the same as androstenol beta (pheromone in Instant Honesty)? If so why are they being branded as two different [pheromones](https://a314.com/)?. Thanks! 🙂 (Interest arisen while watching this vid on youtube). https://www.youtube.com/embed/Mv3NzSMOaic?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-and-androstenol-beta-thoughts/24665/2 "2009-01-08T21:08:36Z")
(In best Julian Clary voice) _hello sailor!!_ The search button is your best friend on this forum 😃😃, this was posted earlier today, as ever, Tisha has the answer > [@Oxytocin-is it a phero?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-is-it-a-phero/24631): > > [Could we reduce love to a pill? Maybe, says expert | Science | Reuters](http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSTRE5065S320090107) This article talks about how oxytocin can help women form a closer bond with her mate. I have searched online and have run into some oxytocin colognes, my question is does it work like pheros? Anybody have any experiences with such a product? ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-and-androstenol-beta-thoughts/24665/3 "2009-01-08T21:09:07Z")
They look pretty different (second one is androstenol): [http://scienceblogs.com/corpuscallosum/images/oxytocin.JPG](http://scienceblogs.com/corpuscallosum/images/oxytocin.JPG) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/1/1750cbde8dbe76edc39be8df7171392b5b0ea3e5.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sailor4UK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sailor4uk/32/1350_2.png) [@Sailor4UK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sailor4UK)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-and-androstenol-beta-thoughts/24665/4 "2009-01-08T21:10:05Z")
> [@diamond](#): > > (In best Julian Clary voice) _hello sailor!!_ > > The search button is your best friend on this forum 😃😃, this was posted earlier today, as ever, Tisha has the answer > > [Oxytocin-is it a phero?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-is-it-a-phero/24631) I hate you! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sailor4UK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sailor4uk/32/1350_2.png) [@Sailor4UK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sailor4UK)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-and-androstenol-beta-thoughts/24665/5 "2009-01-08T21:16:01Z")
Lol i was watching that vid up their (posted on my first post) and just kinda gave me thoughts. Omg nothing! Nothing!..is MORE DANGEROUS THEN A ROYAL NAVY SAILOR THINKING!!!..(People Die) lol. ---
**Author:** ![Sailor4UK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sailor4uk/32/1350_2.png) [@Sailor4UK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sailor4UK)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-and-androstenol-beta-thoughts/24665/6 "2009-01-08T21:22:47Z")
Ok i read the… [Oxytocin-is it a phero?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-is-it-a-phero/24631) Still confused. Right so Oxytocin is a hormone…“Science is crazy shit” And [androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) beta is a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) version of the hormone? or completely different? So which ones better? Surerly one must be better then the other? ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-and-androstenol-beta-thoughts/24665/7 "2009-01-08T21:53:26Z")
have a look in the pheromone theory section if you want the deep and meaningful, jvkohl ( serious expert) posted in there recently and I quote _dopamine, **oxytocin** , norepinephrine et al., seem to play such important roles in human sexuality. But the bottom line is that they indirectly impact our response to the odor of others. Pheromones directly impact our response._ As I understand it, for oxytocin to be successful, we need to find a way of encouraging the female brain to produce it, it only lasts a very short time outside of the body. I have personally seen results from [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) after over 8 hours. I might have a degree but phero theory is way over my head, I just try the products, provide feedback and let Androtics worry about the whys and hows. ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-and-androstenol-beta-thoughts/24665/8 "2009-01-09T00:36:07Z")
> [@Sailor4UK](#): > > Ok i read the… [Oxytocin-is it a phero?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-is-it-a-phero/24631) > > Still confused. > > Right so Oxytocin is a hormone…“Science is crazy shit” > And [androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) beta is a pheromone version of the hormone? > or completely different? > > So which ones better? Surerly one must be better then the other? Sailor4uK, I watched that youtube video and I still don’t see why you are making a connection between oxytocin and androstenol. Maybe I am misunderstanding your questions. They are two totally different biochemicals. They have nothing to do with each other. They are not chemically similar at all. Androstenol is not a version or modification of oxytocin. The reported putative effects each has on people are not the same either. Oxytocin is not a pheromone. That means under normal natural conditions it is not a molecule that travels from one person to another and causes a reaction. Alcohol can also make people take social risks they wouldn’t normally take, but it is not a pheromone either. ---
**Author:** ![Sailor4UK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sailor4uk/32/1350_2.png) [@Sailor4UK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sailor4UK)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-and-androstenol-beta-thoughts/24665/9 "2009-01-09T00:39:18Z")
yea i think i get the overal picture now. Thanky for helpy! 🙂