# Oxytocin: when will you have a product that contains it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 30, 2009, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-when-will-you-have-a-product-that-contains-it/25533 "2009-01-30T04:58:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 18
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 1:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-when-will-you-have-a-product-that-contains-it/25533/18 "2009-01-31T13:39:47Z")
> [@](#): > > Hormones are precursers to phermones, and as as they change from hormone form to that of a pheromone form the chemical structure does change. > > First and foremonst they change from heavy molecules, transported through the bloodstream or manufactured within the brain, to a light molecule able to cross the brain-blood barrier, or one that is able to be diffused through the skin. Mark, I think your misunderstanding… Lets break it down to one mone at a time cause there are to many to make a blanket statement about. Yes anone is a precurser to testosterone but it occurs in the body therefore its still a hormone till you take a piss LOL Pheromones are **not** molecularly different inside the body and outside the body. They are categorized different. The structure is the same. The molecules is identical its just that all hormones and pheromones are not identical to each other. Lets take anone for instance. Its molecular structure is … C19H28O > [@](#): > > Androstenone (5a-androst-16-en-4-one) is a [steroid](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steroid) found in both [male](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male) and [female](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female) sweat ([Perspiration - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweat)) and [urine](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine). It is also found in boar’s saliva, and in [celery](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celery) cytoplasm. Androstenone was the first mammalian pheromone to be identified. It is found in high concentrations in the saliva of male pigs and, when sniffed by a female pig who is in heat, results in the female assuming the mating stance. Androstenone is the active ingredient in BoarTaint, a commercial product sold to pig farmers to test sows for timing of artificial insemination. > [@](#): > Whether you find it in the sweat or urine (inside) the body or outside the body. Or in boars taint or celery the molecular structure is C19H28O They weigh the same inside the body and outside the body. Its a fact proven by science. I am using wikipedia just look it up. It says its a steroid … Now a steroid is … > [@](#): > > A **steroid** is a [terpenoid](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terpenoid) lipid ([Lipid - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipid)) characterized by a [carbon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon) skeleton with four fused rings, generally arranged in a 6-6-6-5 fashion. Steroids vary by the [functional groups](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_group) attached to these rings and the [oxidation](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxidation) state of the rings. Hundreds of distinct steroids are found in [plants](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant), [animals](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal), and [fungi](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungus). All steroids are made in cells either from the [sterol](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterol) lanosterol ([Lanosterol - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanosterol)) (animals and fungi) or from the sterol [cycloartenol](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycloartenol) (plants). Both [sterols](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterols) are derived from the cyclization of the [triterpene](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triterpene) squalene ([Squalene - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squalene)).\[3] ([Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#cite_note-2)) But there are steroid hormones… > [@](#): > > Steroid hormones are [steroids](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steroid) that act as [hormones](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone). Steroid hormones can be grouped into five groups by the [receptors](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Receptor_(biochemistry)) to which they bind: [glucocorticoids](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucocorticoid), [mineralocorticoids](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineralocorticoid), **androgens** ([Androgen - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen)), [estrogens](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estrogen), and [progestagens](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progestagen). [Vitamin D](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D) derivatives are a sixth closely-related hormone system with homologous receptors, though technically [sterols](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterol) rather than steroids. > [@](#): > Anone is a androgen therefore its a steroid hormone in the body. Pheromone means… > [@](#): > > The term “pheromone” was introduced by [Peter Karlson](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Karlson&action=edit&redlink=1) and [Martin Lüscher](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Martin_L%C3%BCscher&action=edit&redlink=1) in 1959, based on the Greek word _pherein_ (to transport) and _hormone_ (to stimulate). They are also classified as ecto-hormones. These chemical messengers are **transported outside of the body** and result in a direct developmental effect on hormone levels or behavioral change. > [@](#): > Therefore outside of the body anone becomes a pheromone. The blood brain barrier is complicated it is said that certain androgens can cross the barrier into the brain (not into the blood stream) I have a hard time explaining this and I dont have a good grasp on it yet. I have the study here though thats interesting … [http://cat.inist.fr/aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=17023238](http://cat.inist.fr/aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=17023238). But basically they can travel past the blood brain barrier creating effects but because its a derivitive of testosterone it can not travel in the blood stream to increase testosterone levels. Which has been asked on here. They explained all that to me after I made some mistakes. > [@](#): > > Thus, one of the main reasons that Oxytocin is all but useless outsdie the carrier bolldstream. Now I agree with you about Oxytocin, It is a hormone, It has not been proven to work pheromonally It can not cross the barrier. Its to volatile to exist outside the body. Phermonally its weak. So I think we are all three of us in agreement for the most part but having trouble with the delivery aspects and pathways or mechinisms. Tisha --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oxytocin-when-will-you-have-a-product-that-contains-it/25533)._