# P is for PANTYSOAKER - P79 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 21, 2006, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598 "2006-08-21T20:24:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 7:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/41 "2006-09-08T07:56:03Z")
> [@SwingerMD](#): > > Hmm . . . now that you mentioned it, yes my face does feel a bit flushed up to about 30 min after application. > > -SwingerMD At 40 mcg, my face, neck AND shoulders felt downright hot. Lasted for a full 24 hours. But I was told that in spite of this sensation… I was not flushed about the face, neck or shoulders at all. So, it appears p79 makes men “hot” too, just not in the right way. lol ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/42 "2006-09-13T04:36:45Z")
'Bout to jump on the P79 and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) Wagon … any new thoughts? To purchase or not to purchase … dat bees the questionay? :o Excuse me … for those who have purchased the 2.5.-10mu ONLY! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 8:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/43 "2006-09-13T08:40:20Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by M&M > 'Bout to jump on the P79 and P83 Wagon … any new thoughts? To purchase or not to purchase … dat bees the questionay? Excuse me … for those who have purchased the 2.5.-10mu ONLY! I’ve bought the 5 mcg /spray P79 and am happy with it so far. If you look at Scottie2hottie’s ‘successful’ posts above, you will see he was never really using more that 40 mcg anyway (20 mcg in divided doses was what he was using I do believe the times he got those women aroused). Anyway what I’ve noticed so far from P79 keeping in mind I have not tested it too much yet: - No negative effects really at all (even my flatmate who does not like A314 and gets aggressive with -None, was acting fine with me withP79). Only slightly negative effect could be that people kind of act like they have an attitude! Not necessarily anything personal towards the wearer though. - It does not have the head-snapping attention-grabbing impact of -None but when in someone’s vicinity for a while, definitely can make them really into the interaction. Been on a few dates with P79 and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and Spaceland Androstenol , and the girls seemed to be really into the interactions and attentive. There is also some time distortion I think where the dates were going on for a longer time and I actually to make them finish as I needed to go. - It makes me have a bit of an attitude. The P79 seemed to be balancing out the ‘comfort’ (Instant Female Magic ) and ‘social’ ( SpacelandAndrostenol ) parts of the mix. With Androstenol and Androstadienone normally on by themselves I would normally come across as a bit light and ‘weak’. Whether it was the P79 affecting them or the way I was acting from the P79, I felt more dominant with it was added to the mix. - It reminds me of -None in that it does create a bit of an impulsive vibe. As people have said on here, it makes you want to ‘do things’. Less talk and more action. ‘Things happen’ when you wear it - a bit like the way -None is so great for actually making hook-ups happen quicker in bars or the way -None is so great for actually making customers close the deal and buy products quicker than normal. By P79 ‘making things happen’ I do not mean necessarily sex but it should help in that department too provided you have chemistry with the person. P79 is a catalyst like -None but without that dark, territorial, dominant vibe that causes so many problems for me and many others. It might not be as powerful an arouser as -None though (on me at least) but who cares as it seems quite risk-free to wear. - I think to keep spraying it every hour or so is smarter than just one huge application (get the cheapest To Go bottle if you need to hide it in your pocket lol). It just keeps things moving along. Otherwise the ‘comfort/social’ mones take over and things can go in the ‘slow lane’ (obviously this can be overcome with the way one acts but this is what generally happens to me when I wear just ‘comfort/social’ mones ). As for P83, I would love to see some women (and more men) try it and report back please especially how it affects them! Good find Tacitus keep the reports of the new putatives coming. Visionary ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/44 "2006-09-14T16:00:34Z")
> [@](#): > > I’ve bought the 5 mcg/spray P79 and am happy with it so far. If you look at Scottie2hottie’s ‘successful’ posts above, you will see he was never really using more that 40 mcg anyway (20 mcg in divided doses was what he was using I do believe the times he got those women aroused). > > Anyway what I’ve noticed so far from P79 keeping in mind I have not tested it too much yet: > > - No negative effects really at all (even my flatmate who does not like A314 and gets aggressive with -None, was acting fine with me with P79). > Only slightly negative effect could be that people kind of act like they have an attitude! Not necessarily anything personal towards the wearer though. > - It does **not** have the head-snapping attention-grabbing impact of -None but when in someone’s vicinity for a while, definitely can make them really into the interaction. Been on a few dates with P79 and Instant Female Magic and Spaceland Androstenol, and the girls seemed to be really into the interactions and attentive. There is also some time distortion I think where the dates were going on for a longer time and I actually to make them finish as I needed to go. > - It makes me have a bit of an attitude. The P79 seemed to be balancing out the ‘comfort’ (Instant Female Magic) and ‘social’ (Spaceland Androstenol) parts of the mix. With Androstenol and Androstadienone normally on by themselves I would normally come across as a bit light and ‘weak’. Whether it was the P79 affecting them or the way I was acting from the P79, I felt more dominant with it was added to the mix. > - It reminds me of -None in that it does create a bit of an impulsive vibe. As people have said on here, it makes you want to ‘do things’. Less talk and more action. ‘Things happen’ when you wear it - a bit like the way -None is so great for actually making hook-ups happen quicker in bars or the way -None is so great for actually making customers close the deal and buy products quicker than normal. > By P79 ‘making things happen’ I do not mean necessarily sex but it should help in that department too provided you have chemistry with the person. P79 is a catalyst like -None but without that dark, territorial, dominant vibe that causes so many problems for me and many others. It might not be as powerful an arouser as -None though (on me at least) but who cares as it seems quite risk-free to wear. > - I think to keep spraying it every hour or so is smarter than just one huge application (get the cheapest To Go bottle if you need to hide it in your pocket lol). It just keeps things moving along. Otherwise the ‘comfort/social’ mones take over and things can go in the ‘slow lane’ (obviously this can be overcome with the way one acts but this is what generally happens to me when I wear just ‘comfort/social’ mones). > > **As for P83, I would love to see some women (and more men) try it and report back please especially how it affects them! Good find Tacitus keep the reports of the new putatives coming.** I love it when the intellectuals explain what they think of a product! 😉 How many sprays of your 5mcg have you been wearing on your dates? Thanks! So 🙄 … if P79 is part of the recipe for TUTH … where are you hiding [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) Jazzypoo &/or MHarris? ☹ Thanks! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/45 "2006-09-14T19:50:58Z")
I used 20 mcg per application over the course of 3 hours per. You think that might have been too much? ---
**Author:** ![Scottie2Hottie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scottie2hottie/32/628_2.png) [@Scottie2Hottie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scottie2Hottie)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/46 "2006-09-14T22:17:37Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I used 20 mcg per application over the course of 3 hours per. You think that might have been too much? Probably so…reactions seem to drop off above 40 mu for me…at 60 mu it’s as if I had never used anything. For me, 10-15 mu is good for women I don’t know as well and 20 mu seems to be best w/ those I do…I still think stepping up the dosage works best overall. Of course there’s always an exception…the other day, Keri (my PP) came over…I had applied 20 mu about 30 min. before she arrived and she was going on about how sexy I was as she proceeded to attack me…on another occasion, I sprayed on 20 mu while I was in the bathroom and when I returned to the living room she appeared stunned for a few seconds (not quite a DIHL), was really quiet for a while, then asked me if I put on mones. Wasn’t expecting that…she knows I use them, especially stuff like A314 for work, but we’ve only discussed it once or twice in the past 1.5 yrs. and I wear different things around her all the time. I think she’s associated the [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) scent w/ her reactions to P79…suppose I need to use a different cover scent more often, huh. I want to remind ppl that the reactions you’ve read in my posts (especially the extreme ones) come primarily from someone I’ve had a “relationship” w/ for well over a year. While I get great results w/ others, I don’t want ppl expecting random women to “attack” you just because you sprayed on some P79 before you went out clubbing. I do believe that it has promise for those who are Androstenone averse or Androstenone minimalists…you still gotta do the work yourself tho. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/47 "2006-09-15T00:03:18Z")
I’ll have to do more experimenting, then. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Scottie2Hottie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scottie2hottie/32/628_2.png) [@Scottie2Hottie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scottie2Hottie)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/48 "2006-09-15T01:20:27Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I’ll have to do more experimenting, then. 😃 That’s half the fun anyway.😃 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/49 "2006-09-15T02:05:31Z")
Now I have P79 in Seduction Mix 6, and it’s about 1/7th of the mix by volume. I used 2.5 mcg/spray dose, and after applying 8 sprays of Mix 6, my face has been feeling like it’s sunburnt for some time now. So it’s at about 2.85 mcg in 8 sprays. I wonder if this has anything to do with how similar to androstenone it is. This burning face stuff isn’t all that much fun. ---
**Author:** ![IceHawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@IceHawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/IceHawk)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/50 "2006-09-20T02:40:30Z")
50mcg at bedtime always gets me raginly horny at night. Cant sleep or anything close to it. Neither can any of the women, so no problems there really 🙂 However in a social setting it dosent seem to gather as much attention as NPA, so I alternate as needed. ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/51 "2006-09-20T19:27:03Z")
Hey Catlord… do you have any allergies? Because I don’t get any face burning.. I’m also not allergic to anything either. Some things I’ll say right off the bat is that Androstenone does put me in an aggressive mood.. that alone is enough to get my really hot. P79 not as much, but gets me more into a sexy mood which may elevate my body temperate a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/52 "2006-09-20T20:47:39Z")
Till now I still do not know my od limit for P79.😕 It would be definitely relatively high in my case.I could try,but it would be a complete waste of mones and I’m very satisfied with the duration from the dosage I’m using now.😉 It is currently a very good replacement mone for none sensitive people,but nothing beats the real thing man.🙄 Perhaps in CLord’s case it could most probably be a slight allergy or sensitivity to P79.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 1:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/53 "2006-09-21T01:35:58Z")
I don’t know what it is… to the best of my knowledge I am allergic to (in a way that has any effect) eggplant only. They tell me I’m allergic to cats, too, but I never had any symptoms, and I had a cat or two for 24 years straight. The first time I wore it, I put on 20 mcg and didn’t notice anything… but I wasn’t in still air, either. Then about 3 hours later I put on 20 more mcg and even in the wind, I started with the burning face. Ever since then, it’s taken about 2.85 mcg at a time in still air environments to get my face burning. Still experimenting. I can wear about 2.85 mcg applied every 3 hours, with pretty good results though. ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/54 "2006-09-21T03:17:17Z")
Hmmm this face burning sensation you talk about is a wierd phenomena… I’ve worn up to 45 mcg today.. haven’t felt affected like that yet. Will have to see what it is.. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/55 "2006-09-21T06:45:45Z")
I think I figured it out. The day I wore 20 mcg, I wore it to my hair/back of my head. Maybe I should try doing that again. ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 7:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/56 "2006-09-21T07:09:13Z")
The top of the head is quite a good place to spray to prevent yourself from being affected by the mones,and other people to get affected. I usually can wear up to about 60mcg(definitely noticable the results at this dosage from total strangers,just for the fun of it) all over my body with so side effects whatsoever at all.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/57 "2006-09-21T07:59:11Z")
So far I am loving P79. It is much better than -None for me. You can wear P79 anywhere-to a lunch with a friend, to work, to any social event- and there are no problems just potential arousal and good-natured ‘attitude’ from some people. When I wear -None I feel that I am constantly on a tightrope with how I act, whether I am ODing, etc. The thing P79’s ‘arousing effect’ mostly dies down for me after 20-30 mins. I think reapplication in small doses (10 mcg is enough) is the best option. If you want a ‘dominant’ aura that is arousing a better option than -None may be combining P79 with A314 . I have tried that (but only once) and it worked well. Visionary ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/58 "2006-09-21T08:09:15Z")
Me too.Getting a better fixative for this mone would be perfect.I usually use large doses,maybe oding in the morning,but very soon the effects of it on other people start popping out gradually as the day progresses. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 7:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/59 "2006-09-22T07:16:16Z")
Aside from wet panties, what effects do you all see? ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 8:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/60 "2006-09-22T08:42:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by catlord17 > Aside from wet panties, what effects do you all see? I haven’t worn it that often but: I think it increases attentiveness from women toward me, particularly when around me for 20 mins at least (I make sure I apply 10-15 mcgjust before I talk to them though). Generally seems to give a ‘straight to the point’ kind of feeling which I like (someone will have the balls to tell you what they want to know or just what they want-it seems to give one an automatic ‘attitude’). As the ‘Putatives Frontiersman’ Tacitus said it personalises experiences if they are something worth getting into-movie storylines will be enhanced if they are good/something you like, music is enhanced if it is good/something you like, etc. It’s a ‘lights,camera, action’ type [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) which is great IMHO and a real find. Thank G-d for Androtics. Visionary [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598.md?page=4)