# P is for PANTYSOAKER - P79

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 21, 2006, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598 "2006-08-21T20:24:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![aequitas300](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@aequitas300](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/aequitas300)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 7:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/61 "2007-02-25T07:16:54Z")

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I’m guessing for a 23 year old, the dosage should be smaller? But how much difference? Should I use half the amount the OP (original poster) used?

Also - nowhere in the 6 pages did I see anyone mention scented/unscented/etc… Can someone explain the difference between scented and cologne strength?

Thanks..

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 10:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/62 "2007-02-25T10:15:23Z")

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> [@aequitas300](#):
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> I’m guessing for a 23 year old, the dosage should be smaller? But how much difference? Should I use half the amount the OP (original poster) used?
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> Also - nowhere in the 6 pages did I see anyone mention scented/unscented/etc… Can someone explain the difference between scented and cologne strength?
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> Thanks..

I’m 23 and using a 25mcg per spray bottle.

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**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 11:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/63 "2007-02-25T11:04:04Z")

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I’m 23,using 15mcg/spray and 20mcg/spray.  
35mcg per time.

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**Author:** ![The\_GQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_GQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_GQ)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 8:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/64 "2007-02-25T20:09:59Z")

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I recall Scottie2Hottie saying he had his in the Akuto scent. What does everyone else have in terms of scent for this putative ? Light [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) or Akuto? Interested product none the less to deliver none like positives without the negatives.🙂

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 8:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/65 "2007-02-25T20:25:30Z")

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I prefer unscented products, but thats a personal choice. This is just an odd little detail, but the new perfumers alcohol smells like sake to me.

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**Author:** ![aequitas300](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@aequitas300](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/aequitas300)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/66 "2007-02-25T21:34:00Z")

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What’s the difference between scented and cologne strength? Is cologne strength more dilluted?

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/67 "2007-02-25T21:42:54Z")

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The cologne strength has added scent that’s as strong as a department store cologne. The “light neroli scent” (for example, in the Instant line) has just enough scent to cover the pheromone odor and help the pheromones diffuse at a steady rate; it’s much weaker than cologne strength.

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**Author:** ![aequitas300](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@aequitas300](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/aequitas300)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/68 "2007-02-26T01:14:18Z")

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> [@Carrie](#):
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> The cologne strength has added scent that’s as strong as a department store cologne. The “light neroli scent” (for example, in the Instant line) has just enough scent to cover the pheromone odor and help the pheromones diffuse at a steady rate; it’s much weaker than cologne strength.

So the cologne strength has a higher concentration of pheromones and a better scent?

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/69 "2007-02-26T01:23:42Z")

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> [@aequitas300](#):
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> So the cologne strength has a higher concentration of pheromones and a better scent?

The phero concentration is the same for all fragranced and unfragranced products. As in there is no difference in concentration of pheromones in the cologne strength vs the unfragranced

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**Author:** ![aequitas300](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@aequitas300](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/aequitas300)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/70 "2007-02-26T01:27:15Z")

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This is what was throwing me off:

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> has just enough scent to cover the pheromone odor and help the pheromones diffuse at a steady rate; it’s much weaker than cologne strength."

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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/71 "2007-02-26T02:51:41Z")

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Cologne strength is 10% to 30% fragrance by volume, usually mixed with perfumer’s or formulators alcohol, etc.

The “light neroli” scent is 1.66% by volume (3.33% in some cases). Androtics “cologne strength”, where it is listed, is 10% essential oil by volume.

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 1:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/72 "2007-02-26T13:49:28Z")

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The “strength” being referred to is the _fragrance_ strenght, NOT the pheromone strength. Pheromones are identical. Scent is what is different.

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**Author:** ![Scottie2Hottie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scottie2hottie/32/628_2.png) [@Scottie2Hottie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scottie2Hottie)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/73 "2007-02-26T14:27:36Z")

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> [@aequitas300](#):
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> I’m guessing for a 23 year old, the dosage should be smaller? But how much difference? Should I use half the amount the OP (original poster) used?
> 
> Also - nowhere in the 6 pages did I see anyone mention scented/unscented/etc… Can someone explain the difference between scented and cologne strength?
> 
> Thanks..

Perhaps not the case. I get excellent results w/ a far lower dose than most ppl use…20 mu vs. 100 mu. FYI, I’ve used both scented and unscented. The scented version seems to project the molecule better and I’ve received numeous comments about a vinegar/urine smell when using the unscented. A cover scent doesn’t seem to work as well as having the fragrance premixed w/ the pheromones.

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**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/74 "2007-02-26T17:24:38Z")

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fyi. this is an ingredient in MX113

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2007, 5:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/75 "2007-03-03T05:36:20Z")

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> Originally Posted by Homura83  
> I’m 23,using 15mcg/spray and 20mcg/spray.  
> 35mcg per time.

Homura do you wear the [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) -scented version?  
Also what do you think P79 adds to your mixes?

Visionary

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**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2007, 8:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/76 "2007-03-03T08:30:01Z")

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Nope mine is [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) scented.I’m mixing this scent with the sweet EO/neroli scent in my IS and it smells really sweet cuddly and romantic.It has a similar effect to TAF,increases individuality,focus and good perception of the wearer.Women seem to think of you better with P79.

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**Author:** ![smoothplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@smoothplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smoothplayer)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2007, 8:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/77 "2007-03-03T08:36:44Z")

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I have some P79, 10mcg/spray. it seems to make me more approachable that pure androstenone, but since I’ve only used it with androstenone, I don’t know what it does as a standalone or the after-effects..

to those who can smell P79, what does it smell like? how long does residue last?

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/78 "2007-03-28T05:27:31Z")

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…? Any updates?

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 6:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/79 "2007-03-28T06:33:11Z")

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It’s definately an enhancer, but I find it to add a heavy feel to the mix.

Kind of like taking your phero cloud and turning it into a thick fog.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 1:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/80 "2007-09-25T13:40:17Z")

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Seems to make it much more dense…  
I like it. Never had the vinegar comment though..  
I think the best results will be with a girlfriend, at least for me..

Currently playing: Wounded Cougar - Drop your panties

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