# P-this and P-that!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-this-and-p-that/5850>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 3, 2007, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-this-and-p-that/5850 "2007-10-03T21:48:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![manhoodtaker666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@manhoodtaker666](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/manhoodtaker666)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-this-and-p-that/5850/1 "2007-10-03T21:48:02Z")

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I have a question about these mysterious looking putatives. Do they affect everyone differently depending on their own personal signatures, or do some only work in conjunction with established [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). Also, with that said, would anyone like to speak about which putatives are best for generating:  
friendliness  
lust  
openess  
attraction

and any other states that seem to have been generated not only in people you interact with, but also within yourself. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-this-and-p-that/5850/2 "2007-10-03T22:00:31Z")

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We don’t know, _advanced users_ are supposed to test them and tell us,🙂 they are putatives after all:

pu·ta·tive

[http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/premium.gif](http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/premium.gif)

[http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png](http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png)

[http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif](https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fbrowse%2Fputative) /ˈpyu

[http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png](http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png)

tə

[http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png](http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png)

tɪv/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation **pyoo** -t_uh_-tiv] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective commonly regarded as such; reputed; supposed: the putative boss of the mob.  
[Origin: 1400–50; late ME \< LL _putātīvus_ reputed, equiv. to _putāt_(_us_) (ptp. of _putāre_ to think, consider, reckon, orig. to clean, prune) + _-īvus_ [-ive](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=-ive)

[http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png](http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png)

]

—Related formspu·ta·tive·ly, adverb

[Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com) Unabridged (v 1.1)  
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-this-and-p-that/5850/3 "2007-10-03T22:04:19Z")

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Ah the Putatives. The whole idea behind them is they show promise, molecularly, as a potential [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), but have to be researched by experienced pheromone users to actually find out what their usage results might be.

Like most pheromone molecules they would all have secondary affects and although, to some, those affects might be more prevalent than others. An example of this might be user A and B get warm and fuzzy around PXX and user G might get agitated with the same PXX. Then you have user L who doesn’t experience anything and user Y who gets horny from that PXX.

Hence, why Androtics usually only releases the putative and MX series to experienced pheromone users who are willing to share their observations. They also release very little information on the molecule so as not to influence reports.

You can find a Google spread sheet by PheroQuirk that gives users reactions to many of the MX and putatives here:  
[Google Docs & Spreadsheets - Mix Guide](http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pQNd0an1GwdasioEPdlh_IA)

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-this-and-p-that/5850/4 "2007-10-03T22:14:05Z")

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> [@manhoodtaker666](#):
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> I have a question about these mysterious looking putatives. Do they affect everyone differently depending on their own personal signatures, or do some only work in conjunction with established pheromones. Also, with that said, would anyone like to speak about which putatives are best for generating:  
> friendliness  
> lust  
> openess  
> attraction
> 
> and any other states that seem to have been generated not only in people you interact with, but also within yourself. Thanks!

Confusing isnt it ? 😃 Stick with the consumer products for a while and get used to the whole mone concept and how it works. Participate in the forum with feedback about you experiences. Then when you feel ready to recognize what kind of reactions your getting try the test mixes and report on them. After those you’ll be more ready for the putatives. Hell I even have a hard time getting a feel for those.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![snook\_assassin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snook_assassin/32/1107_2.png) [@snook\_assassin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snook_assassin)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-this-and-p-that/5850/5 "2007-10-03T22:58:22Z")

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Hey Tisha… That new icon avatar thingy is acceptably sexy. Not over the edge sexy, but plenty sexy enough to be willing to dunk you in maple syrup after all… LOL! 😉

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**Author:** ![manhoodtaker666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@manhoodtaker666](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/manhoodtaker666)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-this-and-p-that/5850/6 "2007-10-03T23:53:19Z")

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Ah, thanks! That would explain seemingly no one knows anything about them. I’ll take the advice and stick with the ammo and the instant shine for the time being.

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**Author:** ![snook\_assassin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snook_assassin/32/1107_2.png) [@snook\_assassin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snook_assassin)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-this-and-p-that/5850/7 "2007-10-04T00:00:32Z")

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Yeah, the instant line is a great set to hang with until you really get the feel for pheros. I also highly recommend instant female magic! Good stuff, bud! Good stuff!

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-this-and-p-that/5850/8 "2007-10-04T03:41:41Z")

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> [@snook\_assassin](#):
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> Hey Tisha… That new icon avatar thingy is acceptably sexy. Not over the edge sexy, but plenty sexy enough to be willing to dunk you in maple syrup after all… LOL! 😉

Tater thinks its not exactly the best Tisha icon. Otherwise hed be ticked off at you for stealing the whole syrup thing. 😛

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 6:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-this-and-p-that/5850/9 "2007-10-04T06:21:10Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Hey Tisha… That new icon avatar thingy is acceptably sexy. Not over the edge sexy, but plenty sexy enough to be willing to dunk you in maple syrup after all… LOL! 😉

Well you wanted less sexy and believe me some of the avatars I have are far more sexy then the ones I have used here. I like to change them every week. It pays to have a family member who is a art student. One day I am going to throw one of me in and see if anyone picks up on it. I did it once already and only one person picked up on it. LOL.

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> Tater thinks its not exactly the best Tisha icon. Otherwise hed be ticked off at you for stealing the whole syrup thing. 😛

Ahh but you know tater I only make biscuits for you. 😃

Snook looks like we will have to go with chocolate syrup it go’s well with MX135 to.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 6:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-this-and-p-that/5850/10 "2007-10-04T06:48:15Z")

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> [@Mtnjim](#):
>
> We don’t know, _advanced users_ are supposed to test them and tell us,🙂 they are putatives after all:
> 
> pu·ta·tive
> 
> [http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/premium.gif](http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/premium.gif)
> 
> [http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png](http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png)
> 
> [http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif](https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fbrowse%2Fputative) /ˈpyu
> 
> [http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png](http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png)
> 
> tə
> 
> [http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png](http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png)
> 
> tɪv/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation **pyoo** -t_uh_-tiv] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective commonly regarded as such; reputed; supposed: the putative boss of the mob.  
> [Origin: 1400–50; late ME \< LL _putātīvus_ reputed, equiv. to _putāt_(_us_) (ptp. of _putāre_ to think, consider, reckon, orig. to clean, prune) + _-īvus_ [-ive](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=-ive)
> 
> [http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png](http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png)
> 
> ]
> 
> —Related formspu·ta·tive·ly, adverb
> 
> [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com) Unabridged (v 1.1)  
> Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

Thanks Mountain Man always wondered what putative means