# P103 day 1 at 25mu: felt hyper and finally got my paper written **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 3, 2008, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558 "2008-12-03T10:59:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/1 "2008-12-03T10:59:42Z")
Day 1 25mu p103 around 11AM At first, I felt hyper, I swear I felt my heart rate increase. I wouldn’t say it was physically energizing per se, but it definitely did have an impact physically..I dunno I’ll articulate it better later. I managed to get a good amount of work done today, I have been lagging on this paper for a while now and today I typed out 4 of those 5-7 pages. It’s been something I’ve been wanting to get done for a while now. Today I just told myself, “Just get it started, just put your name down on the paper and start writing.” This was before my DHL shipment came in. Later in the day it became “Just get the structure of the paper down and you can fill it in later.” When I sat down to write it, I said fuck it and just started typing. Anyways, I went to my lab today, handled the work and left. One of the students was talking about wanting to transfer to a school with football players because she wants to date them. Yeah, that’s a great choice for your education..the girl sitting next to her lets her know that she thinks that’s ridiculous. The other girl is clearly distressed and just dismisses the conversation, she was done with her work anyway. I couldn’t help but comment to the girl sitting next to her and we had a brief conversation about our classes next quarter and traveling to Europe. She mentioned a fiance so I just concentrated on my work. After that, I was about to get some lunch but I decided the line was too long. I went to the store and bought a protein shake. I then went to the library and tried to get some reading in for the paper. I ended up taking a short nap, but I also managed to get some reading in too. I left and went to my next class, waited around for the list of pages that we need to review for the midterm. He only told us the pages for chapter 8. Apparently he had gone over chapters 6 and 7 before. I turned and asked the girl sitting behind me if she had the page numbers for those chapters, she told me that it’s just the whole chapters. This wasn’t the truth, but I guess she either didn’t know, didn’t have them, or didn’t want me to have them. Anyways, I ask another girl in the row in front of me and she’s happy to supply the page numbers. I quickly copy them down and leave class. I get home, I’m waiting around for my friends to show up so we can go to the gym. Some other friends come by for a little bit, then leave. I go to the gym, have a good workout. At the gym I see a girl that I know and say hey. She walks by later as I’m finishing my cardio and we start talking. We talk about this, we talk about that..she needed to find her friend and go get some food so she left. On our way out, my friend’s jacket was having a zipper malfunction and knowing that it’d be really cold outside, he tried fixing it. It was not easily fixed. As we’re trying to fix the zipper, same girl walks up grinning and starts asking about what we’re doing. We small talk again for a little bit and she’s off again. Another girl comes by and says hi, one that I haven’t seen in a while. We talked about Thanksgiving for a second and she went to work out. Shortly after, we fix the zipper and leave. I get home, take a shower, and I’m on my way to get some food. This is around 6pm and after my shower, I reapplied p103. 37.5mu around 6pm I get in the car and drive over to the restaurants. I’m walking to the restaurants and I can’t decide. I stand there for a moment just looking back and forth. I decide I want variety so I’m going to the restaurant I don’t usually go to. I order my food and just as I finish paying, someone calls out my name. I turn and see that it’s one of my friend’s roommates. He’s eating alone and since I had some time to wait, I go and sit with him. We talk about being social outcasts and all that, it sucks that his parents aren’t allowing him to stay in the dorms..he’s missing out. Anyways, So we talk for hella long, my food comes, I decide to sit there talking to him, perhaps trying to delay the enevitable..I offer him a ride home. I need to get a drink and some gas so I pull into a gas station. I go inside and my friend’s there getting some cigarettes. I pull another protein shake out of the refridgerators and as I’m waiting in line, I’m absent mindedly playing catch with myself with the protein shake. I miss and it explodes on the floor. Damn. It’s all over the place and I ask the attendant if there is a mop. She asks me to go back there to get it because it’s heavy. I go back there and she hands me the mop. I think this is heavy? I ask if she needs the bucket too, apparently she didn’t. It kinda seemed like she expected me to clean it up. I don’t mind, I made the mess after all, but a bucket of water was necessary for a full cleaning. Either way, I just kinda mop up most of the shake, the attendant brings a bucket over and I just toss in the empty bottle. After that mediocre clean up, I decide, in the end, she’s the one that gets paid to maintain the place, so I leave the mop there. I get another shake and put $10 in the tank. As I’m pumping gas, I realize that she didn’t charge me for the shake I dropped. The gas is just about done pumping when the attendant comes up to me and apologizes for having to charge me for the shake. I’m surprised at this and tell her it’s no problem, I was about to go back in myself. I go in and the whole time she’s apologizing profusely, I tell her that she shouldn’t be sorry at all as I was the one who caused the mess in the first place. She seemed to take that very well. I wish her a good night and I’m off. I get home, I eat my food, I write my paper and then go to my friend’s place to unwind for a bit. Now, I’m here. I wrote this report in notepad, thinking it was going to be a small one…yeah right. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/2 "2008-12-03T15:37:16Z")
Intense Phya! I like that P103 has a change potentiator intertwined in its mindless drive. Would you equate your initial heart-rate increase to the sudden drive you had? Perhaps your synopses were sending electrical impulses to the rest of your body, gearing up for the sudden impulse drive you had. The one girls who didn’t care to give you the correct chapter pages: Is she normally like this? I’ve found that P103 has the ability to shut off all outside influence. Maybe she was affected by your signature and therefore could not be bothered with you, an outside influence. I also am very curious about the nap time you took in the library. I find that with molecules like [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), and perhaps you with P103, that intense increases in focus, like you experienced cause me to burn-out a little quicker and therefore a nap to refocus my energy is necessitated. Where you tired before hand? You might consider some [Fast Blast](http://www.life-enhancement.com/product.asp?SID=1&id=96). This eliminated that sudden down-turn in energy when those periods arose. Anyway great report ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/3 "2008-12-03T18:45:00Z")
Hey Steve! > [@Steve](#): > > Would you equate your initial heart-rate increase to the sudden drive you had? Perhaps your synopses were sending electrical impulses to the rest of your body, gearing up for the sudden impulse drive you had. Initially, yes, but the effect was much lesser when I reapplied the 37.5mu later. I’ll keep it in mind and try and notice if it pops up again or not. It mostly seemed to just peak for 10 minutes or so. I have been looking for a good heart rate monitor for a while and believe me, I wished I had it yesterday. It was definitely a significant increase. After the peak, either I became acclimated to it, or it went back down. At the gym, my HR didn’t seem elevated more than usual during my cardio. > [@Steve](#): > > The one girls who didn’t care to give you the correct chapter pages: Is she normally like this? I’ve found that P103 has the ability to shut off all outside influence. Maybe she was affected by your signature and therefore could not be bothered with you, an outside influence. I have no idea. I’ve never seen her before in my life. It didn’t seem like she had her old notes with her, or at least they weren’t out. I won’t say she was lying, but I got the definite feeling that she kinda just pulled that response out of her ass. It was a similar feeling to someone being dismissive because they’re being bothered. IE: When you ask a local for directions and they’re just like ‘Nope, sorry, don’t have a clue where that is’ and walks away in a hurry, and you were asking where the Empire State Bldg is. You kinda think to yourself, wow either that person is really clueless or they don’t wanna help. The reason I had this reaction is because this is the _third_ midterm of the quarter and seeing how he gave us specific pages for review for the _two_ midterms before this one, I don’t see why he’d stop that habit for this midterm. > [@Steve](#): > > I also am very curious about the nap time you took in the library. I find that with molecules like P74, and perhaps you with P103, that intense increases in focus, like you experienced cause me to burn-out a little quicker and therefore a nap to refocus my energy is necessitated. Where you tired before hand? > > You might consider some [Fast Blast](http://www.life-enhancement.com/product.asp?SID=1&id=96). This eliminated that sudden down-turn in energy when those periods arose. > > Anyway great report Never heard of Fast Blast. I buy energy drinks, but almost never drink them. I really try and avoid caffeine for whatever reason that I do, but still need pick me ups. It’s like having a Red Bull around is enough to motivate me from falling asleep. Like, if I sleep, I have to drink the Red Bull and I really don’t want to. Anyways, I was definitely tired before hand. I only had 6 hours of sleep, nothing drastic, but it’s enough to make you wanna sleep in the library. I mean, really though? It’s studying in a library – that’s enough to make you wanna sleep. 😛 I haven’t experienced the burn out with p74 yet. I have experienced massive burnouts with TAK. That one puts me down like no other. Neither of those are really ‘focusing’ to me, but maybe burn out has only to do with the biological cost of brain activity, not necessarily the ‘intensity’ or type of activity. If that makes sense.. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/4 "2008-12-03T20:29:27Z")
Phya, Great long, detailed report. Other than your heart rate going up, it is difficult for me to determine which things you thought were different because of the P103. Can you elabortate a little on which experiences you thought might be the result of the P103 and how they seemed different from “normal”? There seemed to be a lot of people coming up and talking to you. Are you normally that popular? And yet there seemed to be some ambivalence amongst people – the woman with the chapter pages being the most obvious example. Do you think people were more or less friendly than usual? Were women more or less interested in you? Someone would talk and leave and then you’d see them agian. People seemed like ping pong balls in your narrative. Is that just a normal occurrence on campus or was something different happening there? Do you think that you would have dropped that energy drink if you were not doing P103? Was there a carelessness involved that you might blame on the P103? Like you, if I dropped the drink, I would feel obligated to help clean up, but if I were wearing A314, I am sure I would not be allowed to. Do you think that P103 effected the amount of respect that you received? I find that P103 makes me feel that a great load has been lifted form my shoulders. It lightens the mood. Did you feel anything of that sort? [p103 (sings) I'm lovin' it](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-sings-im-lovin-it/20576) _Do you feel that P103 helped with the writer’s block? How so?_ _Thanks, Warren_ ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/5 "2008-12-04T00:01:12Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > Can you elabortate a little on which experiences you thought might be the result of the P103 and how they seemed different from “normal”? Not yet, not really anyway. If I had to put it into words at this point, I’d pin it as sort of an accelerated TAK, in terms of reduction of resistance. > [@Warren](#): > > There seemed to be a lot of people coming up and talking to you. Are you normally that popular? And yet there seemed to be some ambivalence amongst people – the woman with the chapter pages being the most obvious example. Do you think people were more or less friendly than usual? Were women more or less interested in you? Someone would talk and leave and then you’d see them agian. People seemed like ping pong balls in your narrative. Is that just a normal occurrence on campus or was something different happening there? Lol, I like to think I’m that popular. 😃 Both girls are girls I see at the gym now and then. Sometimes I catch them when they’re on the machines and just say hi, other times they catch me when I’m on a machine or otherwise working out. The first girl has come by to talk to me before, the second I haven’t seen in a month or so, so I think she just made it a point to come say hi. I do know a good number of people here, and it’s not unusual for me to run into people that know me, who will come up and say hi. If anything, the enthusiasm with which the first girl came back is noteworthy. But I can’t say with certainty. I think it’s safe to say that there is a sense of ambivalence. It’s not necessarily ego driven (I don’t care), but seems to be more circumstantial (It doesn’t matter what happens). I wouldn’t say that people were more, or less interested in me. I noticed some things today while wearing p103, but I have yet to write up a report. I’m not sure what you mean by the ping pong business. Perhaps you got that impression because I’m shortening the length of interactions? Er, rather, you can’t get a good sense of time through my narrative? I mean, this is covering 8 hours of the day, there were plenty of hours and minutes in between events. Most of it, however, was in the library. If you mean the casual manner in which conversations were started or dropped, I don’t know if it’s usual on college campus. Perhaps it’s more of a reflection of our society communicating with IM and txting and the different manner in which we approach that kind of situations. It could be said that face to face interactions are taking on the quality of IM sessions. Again, this may be a larger trend in society, not necessarily having to do with p103. However, the p103 may have a tendency to push people into acting in such a manner. > [@Warren](#): > > Do you think that you would have dropped that energy drink if you were not doing P103? Was there a carelessness involved that you might blame on the P103? Like you, if I dropped the drink, I would feel obligated to help clean up, but if I were wearing A314, I am sure I would not be allowed to. Do you think that P103 effected the amount of respect that you received? > > I find that P103 makes me feel that a great load has been lifted form my shoulders. It lightens the mood. Did you feel anything of that sort? > [p103 (sings) I'm lovin' it](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-sings-im-lovin-it/20576) > > Do you feel that P103 helped with the writer’s block? How so? Well, sorry to be so ambivalent, but I’d have to say yes and no, or I don’t know with regards to the p103 causing me to be careless. I like to toss things up into the air and catch them apparently. Every phone I’ve had has been taken and flipped up into the air. Sometimes, I drop them. :o I think seeing my friend there unexpectedly put me in a much friendlier mood. My dropping the drink was definitely careless. I was just standing there talking to my friend while throwing the drink around and realized it was out of my reach as it was coming down. Then splat. ☹ I do think that there might have been some effect on respect. As if I was the attendant’s friend or something. She didn’t necessarily expect me to clean it up, as she didn’t explicitly ask me to clean it up. She just kinda handed me a mop. It’s almost as if she would have left it there if I hadn’t asked her if maybe the spill should be cleaned up. If anything, it’s as if she was waiting to see how much clean up I would do. Just seeing what would happen. I refuse to believe that this woman didn’t know how to handle a spilled drink on the floor. Another interesting point is that she didn’t immediately charge me for the drink and she was apologizing profusely for having me come back in to pay for the drink I dropped. If she had intended any disrespect or ill will to begin with, I don’t think she would have apologized more than a couple times for my inconvenience. I haven’t experienced that ‘lightening of load’ you mention. I definitely did experience the ‘rush’ that comes immediately after application of p103. As far as writer’s block goes. I seem to have no problem writing things out. Most of my posts have been longer than I have intended. It’s hard to say because I’m approaching this paper differently than I usually do. Normally I procrastinate until the night before and rush to finish it before the sun rises. Under pressure, my mind seems to just spew out any ol BS that can fill the page. This time, I’m starting a couple days before, I got more than half of it done last night. Tonight I’m going to finish it and polish it up so that my TA can review it tomorrow morning before I turn it in the morning after that. If anything, I’m just more verbose. I’ll get my second report up later tonight, maybe I’ll see some patterns. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/6 "2008-12-04T09:41:10Z")
That was a great report Phya, reps. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/7 "2008-12-04T11:18:58Z")
Thanks Bella. 🙂 Okay, day two. 50mu p103 11AM I definitely felt that rush again. It either disappears after a couple minutes, or I become used to it and don’t notice anymore. We’ll see if tomorrow is the same. I walked into class late. I didn’t put in my contacts so I needed a seat close to the board. I also didn’t want to have to squeeze past people so I was looking for an open aisle seat with a right handed board. I ask if the seat is available and the guy tells me that it’s broken. So I just politely squeeze past them and go all the way to the middle. At some point in the class, I’m bored and I turn around to see who I can see. I catch eyes with the ‘snack girl’ (ref: journal) and nod to say hey. She smiles back. I thought I should try and stick around to maybe talk to her. Instead I decide I should be on time to my next class and head out the door. As I’m getting out the door, my friend calls me. He’s registering classes and he wants to know what electives I’m taking so we can take classes together. I don’t know what section discussion I’m taking, so I tell him I’ll text him and look it up as I walk to the store. In the store, I almost walk into a girl, smile, say excuse me and slip past her into line. As I’m standing there I watch her walk back and forth, as if she’s lost. Eventually she finds her stuff and gets into line in front of me with her friend. The whole time she’s standing there she’s playing with her hair, sticking her leg out of the line and arching it, shifting around back and forth from leg to leg. I caught her looking back a couple times. I won’t make assumptions, just telling y’all what I saw. As the line moves forward, I get thoughts of food and start looking at the snacks they have. I almost forget to get my muscle milk. I grab it as I move forward. Fast forward to my econ discussion (12PM). Our TA is handing out our midterms but he has so many he just hands me a stack and tells me to go ahead and look for mine. A girl walks up next to me, waiting to get her test too. After going through a handful of tests, I look at her and hand her the tests that were not mine. I this several times. I don’t know if it was the way I was handing the papers to her, but she seemed to palm my hands a couple times. By accident I guess. The discussion ends, I ask my TA for clarification and he explains it in full detail. We end up walking out of the building at the same time and the whole time he’s just telling me that this test shouldn’t be too tricky and difficult. I guess some people have been telling him that it’s hard. I assure him that he’s instructed us well, and we part ways. I go to my last class (1PM), my note taking was really off because I didn’t have time to copy all the key terms from the board. I couldn’t get a close enough seat and without my contacts it was near impossible to read the board in low light. Anyways, I make it through and I talk to my TA about my paper. I turn around and my friend is waiting there. We walk out together and just bullshit about whatever, talk about the paper and how much it sucks. 🙂 I’m hungry and want some real food (2PM). I go to the commons and get in line for some pasta. There’s only one guy prepping the pasta for two lines and he’s going back and forth. This one girl gets skipped because of that and I just look at her later and smile, she smiled back. Left it at that. I noticed a cute girl next to me, I just made an off hand remark about the guy having to work twice as hard since he was alone. She replied with, ‘yea he seems real nice.’ Uhm..non sequitur? Okay. I decide to not talk to her anymore. The cook cooking in my line is pretty friendly and I talk to him now and then. I noticed that they went back to the old plates and I asked him about it. We joked about how some people might actually care. I joked around, pretending to be an irate student. He got a kick out of it. Apparently he has nicknames for his cashiers because he calls out ‘Giggles, that one has extra meat.’ I get home (2:30PM), and procrastinate for a while, some friends come over (4PM) and we smoke. We play some big two, cod 4 and just bullshit for a while. I procrastinate a little while longer thinking I’m about to go to the gym soon. I get a call that the gym is going to be delayed because my friend needs to go to an appointment he thought was canceled. So I bullshit for a little longer and finally get to my paper. I get a significant amount of work done by the time my friend shows up to go to the gym. We go to the gym (9PM), I’d say that we talked more than normal. To the point where it was a little distracting near the end. Still put in good work, it just took a little longer than usual. I come back home (10:30PM) and shower up. I finish up my paper at 12:30PM. I go out to celebrate and smoke a blunt with the homies. 😃 And now I’m here, writing this report. If I had to characterize the conversation with p103, I’d say it’s brisk. People seem to say what they want, but allow others to have their verbal space as well. But every moment is filled with chatter, the focus of the conversation just skips around. I don’t know if the IOIs and subtle hand touching is p103 related or not. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 1:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/8 "2008-12-04T13:13:15Z")
Great reports Phya. Keep up the good work. Reps. ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/9 "2008-12-05T01:03:35Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > I find that P103 makes me feel that a great load has been lifted form my shoulders. It lightens the mood. Did you feel anything of that sort? [p103 (sings) I'm lovin' it - #14 by Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-sings-im-lovin-it/20576/14) Exaclty those same effects here… 😃 I tested it long ago but still remember the high 😉\* ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/10 "2008-12-05T20:57:04Z")
Day 3 75mu p103 12:30 Go to campus, decide to get some food first. The usual cook is there and I chat with him for a moment. The cashier forgot to charge me for the extra meat. I let her know and she thanked me and gave me a larger drink for my honesty. I ate quickly so that I could talk to my TA. When I entered the room, I asked around for my TA in the history lounge. There was another TA? Prof? that was in my TA’s room instead and she insisted that I come in and sit down. Anyways, my TA joins me and we discuss my paper. On my way out I run into an acquaintance and we talk for a moment, somewhat in passing. I get to the library around 1:30pm and while looking for an open computer to use, I run into one of the girls from the gym (the second one). Again, a brief conversation. I find a computer and begin reviewing for my final. During the review, I felt unfocused. I was more interested in people watching in the library than actually studying. I managed to get it done and went about looking for sources for my paper. While walking around, I ran into a friend of mine. It’s about 3:00pm. It turned out we were taking the same class and didn’t even know it. He was studying for the final as well. I asked him if he knew how much scantrons were and he said he had one for me and gave it to me. Sweet. Saved like..10 cents. 😃 I thank him and go off looking for my sources once more. I find all my sources and I’m in line to check out the books. I turn and see another friend. She walks up and we talk for a bit. The interaction felt a little distant, but I think that was due to the fact that she was asking if I was going to her bf’s bday dinner, a guy I’m not particularly excited about. (Ever hear that Murs song “I hate your boyfriend”? Kinda like that. 😛) Anyways, I let her know that I probably can’t make it because of the paper. I head over to my final and take it. I finish and on my way home (4:00), I call up my friends to see who wants to hang out. I get there and J’s there. We chat for a bit, she was friendly, but definitely not in her best mood as she’s been practicing very late for an upcoming competition recently. I won’t make any judgments on p103’s effects on her, due to her situation. I wouldn’t be turned on or even friendlier if I’m bushed. She seemed like she wanted to hang out though, because she was whining about my bad timing. I leave and get some food with my friends, head home and get ready for the gym. We go to the gym around 6pm and it’s a long workout again. Much longer than necessary. I’d say that there was a lot of unneccessary chatter. We deliberated on the different styles of cleans for about 5-10 minutes. It was definitely a more social aspect than a focusing aspect, at least in groups. I get home, shower up, and get started on my paper around 8:45pm. I finish my paper around 12:30, get a 12 pack of beer and head to my friend’s place. We drink and smoke, just kicking it and watching Mallrats and commenting on it, all the way until 5am. I didn’t reapply any p103 or any other [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) after my shower. After 3 days with p103, my observations are that it is indeed social. It promotes conversation, but not like nols. At higher dosages, I think it can actually be counter productive socially, making situations kinda awkward. The ‘rush’ disappears with use. I feel lower dosages would be better for this one. Around 25-35 mu. Also, it seems to last an incredibly long time, or the new fixatives that AD is using are working very well. As far as diffusion goes, I’d say about 5-7 feet (that’s a rough estimate at best). If I had to sum it up in one phrase, I’d say p103 gives you a desire to express your thoughts. It also seems to accelerate the thinking process in a way. It’s very..uh…undercurrenty? Basically, it doesn’t show much on the surface, but it definitely seems to be doing something in the background. I’ll need to try p103 with some other pheromones to get a better idea of it. p79, TAF, p83, and IH are the first candidates. I’m wearing p103 and p79 today. I’ll let you guys know how it goes. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/11 "2008-12-05T22:17:50Z")
> [@Phya](#): > > 75mu p103 > > At higher dosages, I think it can actually be counter productive socially, making situations kinda awkward. The ‘rush’ disappears with use. I feel lower dosages would be better for this one. Around 25-35 mu. Also, it seems to last an incredibly long time, or the new fixatives that AD is using are working very well. As far as diffusion goes, I’d say about 5-7 feet (that’s a rough estimate at best). Yes, I’ve been playing around with P103 for a couple of weeks. It _does_ last a very long time. I’ve felt effect up to 9 hours after application with no cover and no scent. I get the same effects with small doses (0.6 mcg) as I do with larger doses (25.0 mcg). I haven’t found much effect on others, even at less than 5 feet. Maybe with better diffusion that might change. > [@Phya](#): > > If I had to sum it up in one phrase, I’d say p103 gives you a desire to express your thoughts. It also seems to accelerate the thinking process in a way. It’s very..uh…undercurrenty? Basically, it doesn’t show much on the surface, but it definitely seems to be doing something in the background. For me, P103 quiets down the thoughts and makes stuff viceral. It takes all the frontal stuff and puts it all in the background, and makes me drop things, and makes me really sleepy, and very, very forgetful. 😛 It is very hypnotic and sedating. I had hoped that it would be a more otherworldly element, but for me it is not - with the exception of using it with meo-est. But even there, I’m not sure that either Alpha- or Beta Androstenol wouldn’t be better. I’m trying smaller and smaller doses to see if this one might have a sweet spot for me. So far I really haven’t found it. I’m still trying. > [@Phya](#): > > I’ll need to try p103 with some other pheromones to get a better idea of it. p79, TAF, p83, and IH are the first candidates. I tried using P79 to kinda wake up the P103 just yesterday. But, P79 + P103 is a woinky roller coaster. All that stuff P103 puts in the background, P79 launches into space… then P103 grabs it, puts it back in the background… P79 launches it again. TAF makes it higher and lower. It was kinda like two dancers with different styles both trying to grab the lead, with TAF being the spotlight. So, do you find P103 to be exhilarating or sedating? Does it cut through barriers for you, or do you just forget they are there? Diane ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 8:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/12 "2008-12-06T08:03:11Z")
First lemme copy my initial report on P103 since it touches on things we’re beginning to dicuss here: > [@p103 (sings) I'm lovin' it](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-sings-im-lovin-it/20576/11): > > Pherronec, you’ve inspired me to open my 25mcg togo of P103. > > Before I left home, the stockbroker called. As you might imagine, in this environment, the financial news is awful no matter what you’re invested in. But that didn’t really bother me as much as it might have. > > I walked out to the car intending to drop off some dry cleaning on the way. When I got to the car I realized I’d forgotten it and had to turn around and go back in. > > The woman at the dry cleaners short changed me a dollar. I am sure it was inadvertant. It didn’t really bother me. When I looked at the bill it said two small blankets. Actually, one of the two was quite large. The entire simple transaction seemed to have gotten very confused! > > I drove though the parking lot at the post office to drop off three letters at the drive-through mail drop. I wanted to make sure I was mailing all three and for just a second I actually caught myself getting confused counting all the way up to three! For a few seconds there, it was like I’d been smoking some really good weed (which I hadn’t). > > At the gym everything seemed pretty normal except when one of the personal trainers gave me this really big smile, which was not followed by sales pitch. > > In conclusion, this seems like it would be a fun social phero, but it is very disorienting for everyday business. Definitely not a math homework pheromone! Nothing seemed to bother me. It was amazingly similar to being a little drunk. As far as substituting alphanol or betanol for P103, I think they all do something different. With my sensuality formula, which includes MEO-EST, I have used both alphanol and P103 at the same time. They both add something different and quite positive. I’d probably leave out the alphanol before I’d leave out the P103, but they both add something important. Alphanol is romance; P103 is relaxation, disinhibition. Betanol would be bonding. In this context, I have needed more than 25mcg P103 to really notice it. I am just beginning to experiment with P103 though, and I need to buy more. I am also curious about whether it is energizing or sedating. There are mixed reports. Perhaps it is kinda like alcohol, which is technically a neural depressant, but it depresses the inhibitions first with paradoxical results. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 9:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/13 "2008-12-06T09:40:53Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > I am just beginning to experiment with P103 though, and I need to buy more. I am also curious about whether it is energizing or sedating. There are mixed reports. Perhaps it is kinda like alcohol, which is technically a neural depressant, but it depresses the inhibitions first with paradoxical results. I’m finding that there are a number of pheromones, Test pheromones and Putatives that have different effects on different people. At first I was inclined to think they were sex-based differences, as with Est and Meo-Est, but that is not always the case. Notably P74, which mostly promotes good will and empathy, but which can also promote a type of intellectual disconnection; P83, which is chatty and sexy, but can cause impulsive aggressiveness; the motivational Putatives P93 and P100, which can be either motivational and feel good, or trigger fight or flight responses (TAF also has this problem); P103 which is disinhibiting to some, hypnotic and sedating to others; etc. What is interesting is that although these effects can be dose dependent, that is not necessarily the case. And then there are those who don’t respond at all to certain pheromones. I guess you never know until you test, test, test, and then test again. 🙂 There is actually a medical term for what P103 does to me. It is called non-vertiginous dizziness, and probably involves the Serotonin A-1 receptors being fully loaded, kinda like a buspirone loading buzz. At least that is what it feels like! 🙄 It’s not really unpleasant, but it is very distracting. Anyway, thank you for the really good discussions! 😛 Diane ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/14 "2008-12-06T16:49:36Z")
Yes, I agree that a-nol, b-nol, and p103 all occupy the social sphere of pheromones while maintaining different specific functions. 10mu p79 + 25mu p103 The p79 really makes a difference. It really upped the p103. It seems to encourage conversations as opposed to the more lighter chatter of p103 solo. I feel that you can use significantly less p103 when used in conjunction with p79. (11am) I applied the p103, forgot to apply the p79 after heading out the door, ran back in and spritzed it on. Walk to class, decide to get a protein shake. They’re alllll gone.. ☹ I grab a green machine instead and go to class. I didn’t actually pay attention in class that day, it was all review for the final. Instead, I jotted down notes for my day 3 p103 report. 😛 At the end, he said see you at 11. I was under the impression that my final was at 8, so I went down to confirm the time. There’s a long line to speak with the prof, so I ask some of the students still hanging around. A couple of them actually didn’t know, until one guy looked in his notebook and confirmed it was 8. I turn and almost run into my friend who is also confused about the time. He’s normally very good with school deadlines, so if he’s doubtful, I’m gonna take the time to double confirm. We wait around for the prof and ask him directly. He says check the syllabus. 😛 We head out, chat for a bit while we walk to our next classes then part ways. I go and get some food, I talk with the cook for a bit again, this time he cracks a joke or two. I asked him how his day was going, he said it was still early, and there’s still plenty of time to screw up. 😃 (12:30pm) Ate my lunch, went to the library, where I run into that acquaintance that I’ve been running into all over the place. We stop and actually talk for a while, it’s hard not to when you’ve been running into each other every day for the past week. He gets a phone call from his gf, I take that moment to excuse myself. I find a computer and to kill some time, post up that report on p103. Last class of the quarter! I go to class and take my notes. I wait around and see if I can take the final early so I can go home early. The prof says no go. Damn, I’m gonna be stuck here until Saturday… (2:30PM) Now, it’s time to play. 😃 I go and hang out with some friends, it pretty much consists of hanging out and smoking. We watch some funny movie, get some food, and get some 40s. We pretty much just spend the night drinking, eating, and playing games. My lack of sleep catches up to me and I crash. (12am) I’d say that the p79 really encourages longer conversations, compared to p103 alone. Most of my conversations with p103 have been kinda brief, not awkward, but not smooth. With p79, conversations took on a more natural feel, with some increased intensity in the duration of conversation. ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Nights](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jedi_nights/32/346_2.png) [@Jedi\_Nights](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jedi_Nights)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 4:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/15 "2008-12-06T16:58:12Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > … I am just beginning to experiment with P103 though, and I need to buy more. I am also curious about whether it is energizing or sedating. There are mixed reports. Perhaps it is kinda like alcohol, which is technically a neural depressant, but it depresses the inhibitions first with paradoxical results. I suspect that it energizes, but the OD is intoxicating/sedating. For me the OD starts around 50 mu or more on the inside of my forearms - so when I go to mix it with others, I’m going to start at about 25 mu or less. I’m really interested in what P103 will do with a [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)/P86 1:2 combo. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/16 "2008-12-06T18:25:28Z")
> [@Jedi\_Nights](#): > > I suspect that it energizes, but the OD is intoxicating/sedating. > For me the OD starts around 50 mu or more on the inside of my forearms - so when I go to mix it with others, I’m going to start at about 25 mu or less. > > I’m really interested in what P103 will do with a P83/P86 1:2 combo. I can’t wait to see your reports. I find P103 deeply relaxing at around 0.5 mcg. But it also adds a nice depth to meo-est. Diane ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/17 "2008-12-07T13:24:10Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > I can’t wait to see your reports. I find P103 deeply relaxing at around 0.5 mcg. But it also adds a nice depth to meo-est. > > Diane He already has some up. [P103 solo a social mone](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-solo-a-social-mone/22873) 1 drop of A314, 10mu p79, 1 IH4x, 2 IS2x, 50mu p103 Went to my friend’s dance competition with some friends. One of my friends, K, responded very favorably to that combo. I suspect the A314 has something to do with it. She’s a model that’s trying to get some screen time, so you get an idea of what kind of lifestyle she’s pursuing, at the same time, she’s fairly down to earth. So far at least… She was very talkative and very touchy, arms interlocked, hands around my arm, my arm around her waist, heads touching whispering into ears, the entire night. Though, I suspect she’s a bit touchy to begin with. Then again, this was the first time we really hung out together. Either way, I’d say that there was a definite hit with p103. I’ve never really talked with her that much. Also, we were in a very upbeat, excited, ready to party mood the whole night. Extremely strong and consistent eye contact. Other guys were also friendly, but the A314 wasn’t completely neutralized like with TAK. The respect was still there, but the distance was definitely reduced. All in all, I’d say that the p103 didn’t overpower the A314, and that I consider it to be a suitable alternative to a-nols. It’s not nearly as…chipper (I’m not sure if that’s the right word..but for lack of a better one…) as a-nol. Think of it as between a-nol and b-nol. It’s friendly like a-nol, but has more substance like b-nol. I’d say with that combo, the p103 could be lowered to around 30mu and still be effective, while being better balanced. The p79 really amps up the p103. The kino, I’d attribute to the IS+A314 combo. I’m really beginning to see how this works socially. It’s pleasant and fun, diffuses moderately well, and lasts incredibly long. I like it. 😃 I would consider replacing my IO with p103, since I’m not too fond of the ‘chatter’ that excessive a-nol brings around. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/18 "2009-01-18T19:44:21Z")
I was at a party with members of a fraternal organization. I decided to spray some P103 (10mcg) to see what would happen. After a couple of minutes everybody became very quiet. Then after a few minutes everyone started talking again. My interpretation is that all these people are supposed to be “brothers” but many of them didn’t really know each other that well so they were working hard at being polite to each other. With the P103 they didn’t worry about that so much and things got quiet. And then they began talking about things they really did care about. I got a detailed description of selling an $800,000 house for $2Million, during the boom, from the real estate agent sitting next to me. Later in the evening I started kicking myself for getting another beer when I really was beginning to need a cup of coffee. I sprayed some P103 and was suddenly more alert and socially aware again. I had a similar experience later in the week on a long grocery shopping excursion. My mind became numb to the tedium, but P103 refreshed me. On a similar occasion at the gym, I am about quarter the way into my cadio and, of course, I’m bored to death – running and running and getting nowhere. I just wished it was over. I sprayed some P103 hoping it would give me a boost like it did with shoppping tedium. Well… it did not work a the gym. I don’t know if it was the physical tiredness component that P103 doesn’t overcome or something else… ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/19 "2009-01-19T00:27:20Z")
Warren, I’ve noticed a somewhat dis-inhibiting effect like p83 with p103. It’s not at all chatty like a-nol, nor “deep” like b-nol. It does, however, seem to make it easier for people to speak what’s on their mind, though, a bit like b-nol. What I noticed one night while wearing p103 was that a lot of the banter was unusually ‘harsh’. Meaning, although it the context and intent was clearly playful, all the jokes seem to touch upon sensitive subjects for that individual, in such a manner that it could easily have been received as an underhanded insult. I wonder how much of that might come from the ‘uplifting/burden removed’ feeling. Like, I feel freee! With your thoughts and consequently your spoken thoughts following suit by being more ‘free’ themselves. Kinda like, blah blah blah (that might have been funny..). Everyone laughs (but inside, it feels kinda mean). Since everyone laughed at the joke, including the subject of the joke, it must be okay. But you still get that uneasy feeling that it might have been too close for comfort for that person. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-day-1-at-25mu-felt-hyper-and-finally-got-my-paper-written/23558/20 "2010-01-26T03:22:58Z")
> [@Jedi\_Nights](#): > > I’m really interested in what P103 will do with a P83/P86 1:2 combo. > [@P103 (at 1:2) awakens P86](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-at-1-2-awakens-p86/35688): > > P86 is known for its beautifying effects. When you wear it, the people around you look more attractive and the wearer seems to appear more attractive to the people around him or her. This effect has been noticed by many observers. I believe I was [the first to call attention to this effect](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812). Wildflower calls P86 [the crush pheromone](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-is-the-crush-mone/26509). P86 definitely has more sensual and attractant qualities than just the “Shallow Hal” or “[Instant Airbrush](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-instant-airbrush/24083)” effect. Sedation as an unwanted P86 effect One of the…