# P106 Self Test **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 10, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346 "2009-09-10T19:42:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/42 "2009-09-29T00:50:03Z")
That is a good question. In your situation you reported, that explanations were better given and better understood. At least at 10 mcgs it seems to me that it did not draw the focus to you, but like you had reported before that it brought focus to the problem at hand, to find a solution. In my experience although quite a bit less than yours, I do not think it enhances the wearers value, so unless paired with something else, I do not see it allowing the wearer to set the agenda. > [@Warren](#): > > Hmmm… I hadn’t really thought of it as bonding, but you’re right! “We’re all on the same team.” Previously, I had been thinking more of my individual experiences one on one with other individuals. More group experiences should be insightful. > > Does the wearer have an advantage in setting the agenda of the group? ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/43 "2009-10-02T17:04:51Z")
After further testing I came to these conclusions: A314 plus P106 – A314 puts you in charge. It allows you to steer conversation. Normal A314 stuff. P106 – seems to enhance the conversation you are having. Puts the person(s) in the conversation on the same wave length as you. Makes conversation easy and understandable. No miscommunication. The question that brings up, does P106 make you a better communicator, make the listener more attentive, both a and b, or is it a byproduct of the “bonding” effect? I have not seen P106 take away from the A314 mix. That is a plus. It does not seem to mess with the balance that A314 has. It adds. 20 mcg is where I get best results. Something else I wonder though. A314 has the ability to make people feel “beneath” your status level. If P106 is not taking away from A314, then why is communication/listening/bonding happening. Does the P106 make them feel on your level while up close and under its effects? The respect is still there. It is very odd. Anyone have any ideas or thoughts they would like to throw out? > [@andrew88777](#): > > That is a good question. In your situation you reported, that explanations were better given and better understood. At least at 10 mcgs it seems to me that it did not draw the focus to you, but like you had reported before that it brought focus to the problem at hand, to find a solution. > > In my experience although quite a bit less than yours, I do not think it enhances the wearers value, so unless paired with something else, I do not see it allowing the wearer to set the agenda. ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/44 "2009-10-02T17:12:28Z")
Thanks for that insight Andrew. That does pose an interesting question. Maybe the combination effects similar to p74 where it makes you more approachable. The combination could be great for team building exercises where you’re in the lead or for group projects where you have taken the lead but don’t want others to feel ostracized or excluded. Your description almost makes it seem like it takes the alpha aspect to a more comfortable level… respect with comfort, so people don’t feel beneath you. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/45 "2009-10-02T17:37:06Z")
> [@Reclipse](#): > > Thanks for that insight Andrew. That does pose an interesting question. Maybe the combination effects similar to p74 where it makes you more approachable. The combination could be great for team building exercises where you’re in the lead or for group projects where you have taken the lead but don’t want others to feel ostracized or excluded. > > Your description almost makes it seem like it takes the alpha aspect to a more comfortable level… respect with comfort, so people don’t feel beneath you. I do not think it makes the wearer more approachable, thats where I am stuck at. You still have to open others like you would with just A314. There is a connection where conversation just flows better once you open. Not like with IO or IH. Have you been to a meeting where one or two people have to ask stupid questions that slow the meeting down to a halt? It drives me crazy! With P106 that does not seem to happen. Everyone just gets what is being discussed. In the last meeting I had (a training) the trainer looked at me most of the session. He was looking for my approval for what he was saying. However everyone “got” what he was saying. I need something else to pair P106 with to better understand its effects. ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Nights](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jedi_nights/32/346_2.png) [@Jedi\_Nights](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jedi_Nights)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/46 "2009-10-02T17:53:46Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > P106 is now available in the store. … > > If a group of computer nerds were to have a meeting to investigate an intransigent technical problem, I think P106 would be good – as for any problem solving. I wonder if throwing in some TAF would have a magical effect of causing them to review and rethink what needed to be done in an especially effective way. > > Likewise I wonder how a group of clinicians would do consulting on a particularly difficult case if they wore P106 with some either TAK or P82. I’d try P98 in those situations first - it facilitates intense exchanges, whereas I have found that P106 enables my comic side. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/47 "2009-10-02T18:06:28Z")
> [@Jedi\_Nights](#): > > I’d try P98 in those situations first - it facilitates intense exchanges, whereas I have found that P106 enables my comic side. I have not noticed the comic side with P106. With the P98 I agree. It is like taking an adderall without the physical side effects. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/48 "2009-10-02T18:49:20Z")
> [@](#): > > P106 – seems to enhance the conversation you are having. Puts the person(s) in the conversation on the same wave length as you. Makes conversation easy and understandable. No miscommunication. The question that brings up, does P106 make you a better communicator, make the listener more attentive, both a and b, or is it a byproduct of the “bonding” effect? I think it causes people to be working toward a common goal which is bigger than individual egos. > [@](#): > > Have you been to a meeting where one or two people have to ask stupid questions that slow the meeting down to a halt? It drives me crazy! With P106 that does not seem to happen. Everyone just gets what is being discussed. I hope this holds up. People like that just seem to want attention. Their own childish “oral cravings” are more important than the project. > [@](#): > > 20 mcg is where I get best results. We both agree on 20mcg. It really does put us on the same wave length! 😉 > [@](#): > > A314 has the ability to make people feel “beneath” your status level. If P106 is not taking away from A314, then why is communication/listening/bonding happening. Does the P106 make them feel on your level while up close and under its effects? The respect is still there. It is very odd. Anyone have any ideas or thoughts they would like to throw out? To use a grandiose example, with A314 it is like I am President of the United States, and with P106 it is like the other person is Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. The A314 wearer is allowed to maintain status and ultimate decision making power, while the other is a respected adviser who has an area of expertise that the leader (A314 wearer) needs. > [@](#): > > Maybe the combination effects similar to p74 Hmmm… What is the difference between [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) and P106? I’d say P74 is more social and P106 is more task oriented… > [@](#): > > I’d try P98 in those situations first - it facilitates intense exchanges, whereas I have found that P106 enables my comic side. I’m gonna have to buy some P98. (And maybe some adderall?) Comic side? Interesting… it certainly doesn’t inhibit my comic side, but maybe contributes to a more _dry_ humor? ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/49 "2009-10-02T19:05:25Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > I think it causes people to be working toward a common goal which is bigger than individual egos. Agreed. That makes sense. > [@](#): > > We both agree on 20mcg. It really does put us on the same wave length! 😉 Yes 20 is perfect. > [@](#): > > To use a grandiose example, with A314 it is like I am President of the United States, and with P106 it is like the other person is Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. The A314 wearer is allowed to maintain status and ultimate decision making power, while the other is a respected adviser who has an area of expertise that the leader (A314 wearer) needs. That is an excellent example. So what you are saying then, is that P106 makes others feel like they are “worthy” to have a discussion. Like they have something of value to add to the wearers conversation. That makes so much sense. Thank you for the analogy! On a side note a question-- Is it TAL that brings up a womans value? I cannot remember! > [@](#): > > I’m gonna have to buy some P98. (And maybe some adderall?) I really like P98. It really helps my focus and concentration. Sometimes its hard to test other things because I want to focus at work LOL! ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/50 "2009-10-02T19:32:54Z")
I have been thinking of making a P106 heavy mix to add to my A314. Here are my thoughts so far: P106 20mcg IO 3x IH 1.5x TAA 12.mcg [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) 10mcg TAC 2.5mcg P75 0.5mcg TAL 1.25mcg TAH 1.25mcg After wracking my brain for several days trying to figure out what I should call it, I decided on “Worthy 1.0”. > [@](#): > > On a side note a question-- Is it TAL that brings up a womans value? I cannot remember! Yes. I suspect that too much unbuffered makes her a shrill bitch. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/51 "2009-10-02T19:53:28Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > Yes. I suspect that too much unbuffered makes her a shrill bitch. I think I would agree. I wore a spray 2.5 mcg alone. I felt like a bitch lol. I wanted to nag my wife to no end about every little thing. It took a lot of self control to keep quiet! ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/52 "2009-10-02T19:59:32Z")
Same experience, here. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/53 "2009-10-02T20:05:42Z")
This sounds like a good mix. I cannot try it because I am missing a few of the Pheros ☹ P106 20mcg IO 3x This mixes with P106 very well. I like this! IH 1.5x I do not like this stuff. It does not work as well as IO for me. TAA 12.mcg – I own, however not a whole lot of experience with it. IS has not given me any effects. P74 10mcg – Might be a good idea. They have some similarity. TAC 2.5mcg – I own yet no experience yet. Yet seems like a good idea! [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) 0.5mcg – I do not have this. I have read about it. Your posts LOL – I will order this next order when P96 comes back TAL 1.25mcg – currently testing. However I already thought this would be a good match TAH 1.25mcg – Do not have this. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/54 "2009-10-02T20:06:57Z")
Are you using the TAH to buffer the TAL? ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/55 "2009-10-02T20:11:09Z")
I was thinking something like: None Rone P106 A-Nol B-Nol [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) Similar to what you are thinking, I was testing the TAL to see if it would go into it as well. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/56 "2009-10-02T20:13:12Z")
I like TAH even without TAL. They just seem to work better together. They add a princely quality. I really think 3.75 of each is optimal, but I like to carefully control how much because they are feminine. I would use less TAL if I didn’t have TAH. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/57 "2009-10-02T20:18:51Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > I like TAH even without TAL. They just seem to work better together. That was what I was thinking. Thank you for your help! I read [Tournament and pair-bonding strategies for pheromone use](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tournament-and-pair-bonding-strategies-for-pheromone-use/4009) it has helped me learn a lot about how to make a mix. Kind of like you need a Yin and Yang for best results. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/58 "2009-10-02T20:21:55Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > I like TAH even without TAL. They just seem to work better together. > > They add a princely quality. I really think 3.75 of each is optimal, but I like to carefully control how much because they are feminine. > > I would use less TAL if I didn’t have TAH. Yes I read that TAL works good in any mix. I think Evolver said it. I wanted to get TAH but it was sold out ☹ ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 12:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/59 "2009-10-03T12:39:38Z")
Catlord quote “I find that [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in doses between 2.5 and 7.5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) is a good addition to most mixes where you’ll be dealing with ladies. It’s a nice icing on the cake, so to speak… seems to have a high, light sort of energy and it appears to me as a sort of translucent ultraviolet color, not that that is of much use… but [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) seems to make females more comfortable around me, sort of strengthening them in both presence and apparently adding to their sense of personal value or self esteem. In a mix that makes you seem very high value, [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) appears to help make her feel “good enough” to deal with you.” ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/60 "2009-10-06T19:02:21Z")
> [@andrew88777](#): > > This sounds like a good mix. I cannot try it because I am missing a few of the Pheros ☹ > > P106 20mcg > IO 3x This mixes with P106 very well. I like this! > IH 1.5x I do not like this stuff. It does not work as well as IO for me. > TAA 12.mcg – I own, however not a whole lot of experience with it. IS has not given me any effects. > P74 10mcg – Might be a good idea. They have some similarity. > TAC 2.5mcg – I own yet no experience yet. Yet seems like a good idea! > P75 0.5mcg – I do not have this. I have read about it. Your posts LOL – I will order this next order when P96 comes back > TAL 1.25mcg – currently testing. However I already thought this would be a good match > TAH 1.25mcg – Do not have this. How do you know its a good mix though? Is it just because it seems like synergy on paper or is there a method? I’ve found that many of the mixes I’ve thought would be good based on paper always seem to be far from good. On the other hand the ICM mixes, at first glance didn’t seem like they would be fabulous like they are 🙂. Anyway just looking for your feedback 😉 ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346/61 "2009-10-06T20:08:39Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > How do you know its a good mix though? Is it just because it seems like synergy on paper or is there a method? > > I’ve found that many of the mixes I’ve thought would be good based on paper always seem to be far from good. On the other hand the ICM mixes, at first glance didn’t seem like they would be fabulous like they are 🙂. Anyway just looking for your feedback 😉 That is one of the best questions I have been asked on this forum Steve 🙂 Without testing I would have no idea. My response would be based on paper. I have not had much experience with some of the Putatives or pheromones. Thank you for YOUR feedback. No one else chose to challenge or to put their thoughts out there. I always try to put what I “think” or try to quote someone else’s knowledge. I await for someone to agree with me, disprove me or offer additional advice. I am new to mixes and have been reading so many older posts for a crash course on mixing. I have watched 2 mixes here that have been highly publicized: ICM and PS. I have seen them develop and change so much until they reached close to perfection. It has to start somewhere though. On paper 🙂 For what I put, it is partially synergy on paper and partially method. I know IO (mix of A-nol and B-nol) works well with P106 as I have tested it myself with good results. It also seems to work with A314 which is 80% Rone also with None and TAF. I am also working on testing None/Rone to get a mix that works for me. I have tested P93/MX201 with good results as well as others posted good results. That is why I am pursuing this mix myself. I am also interested in TAL eventually to see how that would steer the overall mix in the end. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p106-self-test/32346.md?page=4)