# P109 Experiment **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 18, 2015, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681 "2015-01-18T21:25:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Astewar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Astewar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astewar)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2015, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/1 "2015-01-18T21:25:58Z")
Hello everyone my name is Austin and I have just recently received a crap ton of products from this site and i am experimenting heavily. So far I have used , Ammo, Shine, Shine +ammo, come talk to me, and A314. I have not noticed much yet but I am still in early phases of experimentation. I have one question though. I received an extra vial of P109 as a suspect [pheromone](https://a314.com/) and was wondering if anyone has any experience using this. So far i have noticed not even the slightest hint of it working but i also don’t know what im looking for or what it is supposed to do. I don’t think many people do either. I have not tested it in a sexual setting or a intense social setting yet. Anyone have any feedback? ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Charles\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Charles_W)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/2 "2015-01-18T21:43:15Z")
Let’s do this. Test it a bit more, if you will. If you find yourself still stumped, perhaps we’ll arrange a hint. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/3 "2015-01-18T21:58:57Z")
This is a putative and its best if you test it blind at different doses, without reference to anyone else’s findings - that way your results carry much greater value. ---
**Author:** ![Astewar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Astewar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astewar)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/4 "2015-01-18T22:14:33Z")
I will state this. I have used this couple of times in my house just to see if there are any self effects. Ive done this two times now. What i have noticed is that my cat loves it. Now my cat is lovey dubby but when i put this stuff on both times she just wants to kiss me on my nose and rub against my legs to the point of where it can get anoying. Don’t know if thats a positive find or not but i think it may affect cats. ---
**Author:** ![Dream\_Brother](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dream_brother/32/1559_2.png) [@Dream\_Brother](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dream_Brother)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/5 "2015-01-18T22:25:08Z")
I found [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) made my dog more passive & tolerant. In all honestly, he’s usually a dick! The point of putatives is to blind test them. There’s no preconceptions, so the effects you have are more likely to be genuine, and not wishful thinking or over-analysation. This helps bring AD research forward, as they can study the correlations, and look through all the effects people mention. Good luck anyway 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/6 "2015-01-18T23:02:38Z")
Like all those guys before you said: There are a few that know what they tend to do, but a lot more that just don’t know. Here is a nice example of what to expect: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/welcome-to-the-official-mens-mx-forum-read-here-first/61527](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/welcome-to-the-official-mens-mx-forum-read-here-first/61527) Experimentation is key. I also got some putatives and MX mixes with my orders where I don’t have any clue what it is. I spray it on, feel the effects and write them down. After that, I send AD a good report and hope that I get a new mix in my next order 🙂 That is how it goes currently with my experimentation, and it works pretty fine. After I know what the effects “could” be, I label my mix with a name representing a famous person and if I like it, I order more. ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/7 "2015-01-19T02:08:54Z")
A good dose of advice you have here, Astewar! I’ll have to transfer this one into the Men’s Section though. But I’ll wait for your response first: Do you want this to stay as is in the Mens Section or do you want this thread transformed into your P109 Testing Journal? 🙂 ================================================= **This week’s freebie is Molecule K (TAK)** ---
**Author:** ![Astewar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Astewar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astewar)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/8 "2015-01-20T19:10:47Z")
Yeah go ahead and move it to the p109 thread. I appreciate it! ---
**Author:** ![Gia\_L](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gia_l/32/2096_2.png) [@Gia\_L](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gia_L)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/9 "2015-01-25T01:41:28Z")
Hey Astewar, I saw you also mentioned you had not noticed much with some of the other [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) you purchased either, correct? How are you using them? Individually, together, how many sprays? In what situations? We definitely want you to experience effects and get results. Let me know if there’s anything I can do or any advice I can provide. I’m more than happy to help out. Plus there’s an entire forum at the ready to give you all the tips you need. 😉 Gia L 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Astewar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Astewar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astewar)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/10 "2015-01-29T19:36:41Z")
Hey so I have some good news! so i have started using the p109 for a while now and here is what i have noticed. I haven’t noticed any attraction from it yet but what i have noticed is that it makes me more agressive when i weight lift. Its kind of wierd actualy. I know quite a difference and i can push myself more becuase i get slightly angry on it. Its benificial for exercise but i don’t know about dates. I like the product so far. ---
**Author:** ![Astewar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Astewar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astewar)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/11 "2015-01-29T19:37:45Z")
I use about 3 sprays. 2 on my wrists and one on my neck ---
**Author:** ![Dream\_Brother](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dream_brother/32/1559_2.png) [@Dream\_Brother](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dream_Brother)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/12 "2015-01-29T20:50:39Z")
If you push beyond your limits mentally and physically with weightlifting, the confidence boost and general increase in will power will pay off in every other aspect of your life. The guy I mention in my signature, Greg Plitt, had the greatest will power and inspiring ethic ever, and watching/reading/listening to him really helped me with stuff like this!