# P109 What is it? (first test results included in thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 23, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876 "2008-10-23T16:12:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![UKClubber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ukclubber/32/920_2.png) [@UKClubber](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UKClubber)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/1 "2008-10-23T16:12:48Z")
Hi all, I just got my order through this morning once again quicker delivery than ordering something in my own country lol. I got a free gift of p109 (thanks april), but i was wondering if anyone else has used this yet or if anyone knows what pheros are in it just need to know what the general effect is before i go out wearing it. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/2 "2008-10-23T17:13:15Z")
i think the point of them giving out free gifts is for you to try it and see what effects you have, I think it is a new putative, also sometimes it is better not to know what other people experience this way you won’t be influenced in your results Just try it and see what happens that is usually what i do ---
**Author:** ![UKClubber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ukclubber/32/920_2.png) [@UKClubber](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UKClubber)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/3 "2008-10-23T17:19:52Z")
Ok well i will give it a try this weekend. Just i would rather know if for example it had none in it etc because of certain people i may be around. But oh well i will risk it for a biscuit and give it a go. Thanks for your reply ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 5:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/4 "2008-10-23T17:49:33Z")
It’ll be a single-molecule putative, so no -none or anything in it, just a strange and exotic putative. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/5 "2008-10-23T20:32:00Z")
P109 is a single molecule suspected [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). Whew how exciting.😃 I think your one of the first to get this one. I havnt seen it yet. Now testing putatives is different then testing mixes. Many times you dont see hits, but behavior changes or attitude changes. The best way to test it is this.. Note your mood before using it. Start with one spray of just the putative. No other mones See how you feel. Any self effects. Mood changes. Jot down anything that comes to mind **no matter how weird or small**. Give yourself a second spray Do the above again Now go out, I find its easier to read putatives when used around people I know already. Take note of moods behavior anything out of the ordinary Try to write these things down if you can Next day or later in the day (after about 6 hours) Try 3 sprays Do the same as above… I can work up to 7 to 10 sprays before I see results with some putatives. Some will work at lower dosages but dont be afraid to mega dose at least once. Now you can move onto using them with 1 mix your familiar with Say Ishine and P109 and see if it changes the mix at all and what kind of effects or vibes and feelings you get . The reason I mention jotting down feelings and thoughts or suspected behavior changes is because when you look back after a week of testing you will see a pattern emerge. You may see the same phrases or a certain word or emotion over and over again and this helps you determine what it does. Tisha PS Be sure to report on it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/6 "2008-10-23T22:12:38Z")
I got one too. But i’m just too busy trying to figure out P83 and P74. And besides, i’d have to give up [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/). OMG, that stuff is thick and rich like truffles. If it was a beer or wine it would be called full bodied. Oh well. Nose to the grindstone. I guess i’ll have to try the P109. I’ll get back to you later with more details. ---
**Author:** ![UKClubber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ukclubber/32/920_2.png) [@UKClubber](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UKClubber)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 4:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/7 "2008-10-24T16:03:42Z")
Thanks for the tips tisha, i will start tonight, and will make a report next week. ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/8 "2008-10-30T02:55:07Z")
_During this testing i monitored regularly emotions, attitudes, impulses, motor skills, and sensory perception._ **Day 1** location: home zero hour 10mcg - applied to forearms dries fast, no discernable odor slightly elevated heart rate(probably anticipation) did a little unplanned housework 1 1/2 hours 20mcg - applied to forearms no change in attitude or impulse motor skills unchanged sensory input normal **Day 2** location - home actvity - internet searchs; to stay current in mushroom farming, sourcing hardware and software for a friend’s project. Calm, even tempered, non-strenous activity zero hour 30mcg - applied to forearms no odor (not even alcohol) dries fast 2 hours 40mcg - forearms and chest regular inhale at application site 20 min - enhanced auditory perception, sound was sharper, each sound was more clearly defined and separate from other sounds. Lasted aprox. 20 min 30 min - pain relief from muscle pain due to stiff neck. Muscles still tense and motion limited but 70-80% pain relief. 3 hr+ - sleepy, dozing off (this would be the beginning of my normal sleep period on a workday) 2 bowls of steamin’ hot chili and 200mg of black coffee caffine and i’m good to go. no change in flavors or appettite 4 hours 50mcg - forearms and chest regular inhale at application site 20 min - light body rush no auditory enhancement steady emotions, no impulses, good motor skills, sensory input normal 6 hours 60mcg - forearms and chest slight inhale of overspray 10 min - light body rush still reduced pain, otherwise situation normal 8 hours 70mcg - forearms and chest inhaled overspray unusual solvent taste (not alcohol) situation normal 9 hours celebrate successful experiment; I did not slither on my belly like a lizard. I did not regress to a past life and have to fight off the urge to loot and pillage. That looks like sucess to me. conclusions The putative P109, beyond a possible anelgesic function, showed no physical or mental effect. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/9 "2008-10-30T14:05:12Z")
Great report OoohYahh I am editing the title a little to bring it to jasmins and steve’s attention. Dont forget to test it in different environments and aroud others 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/10 "2008-10-30T20:12:14Z")
Yes, good reporting OoohYahhh, reps. ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/11 "2008-11-10T00:25:51Z")
P109 - Social Testing Earlier testing of P109 by other members [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-is-pretty-cool/22358](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-is-pretty-cool/22358) , [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-another-report-this-stuff-is-awesome-confirmed/22632](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-another-report-this-stuff-is-awesome-confirmed/22632)suggests a relaxing self effect and a friendly, happy social effect. Based on that assesment, I looked for test environment that was moderately stressful and/or streneous around people that i have a baseline familiarity with. Environment - major urban area Activity - delivery route Subjects - short term (15min. or less)exposure (within a 6ft radius) to aprox. 30 test subjects. 90% male, 90% with 2yrs. or more familiarity **Zero Hour** The stroke of midnight Dia Del Muertes, the witching hour All Hallows Eve (for a little added tension and weirdity) 60mcg - forearms and chest 15 min First receiver signed without a count. He said “is it right?” I said “yes” He signed. I have never known him to sign without a count no matter how small the order or how busy. 1 hour Situation normal. Test subjects behaving normally. Heavy traffic, moving well. No noticeable self effect. 1 1/2 hours Some residual muscle pain, no change from baseline. 2 hours 50mcg - forearms and chest (MT, no mas) 2 hours 4th reciever on time. pressure’s off. subject behaviors ordinary. 2 1/2 hours Heard the police department helicopter cruise past at what sounded like a normal altitude. Not unusual in the city at night. Then i realized that i was inside a building, in a room with 20+ people working, moving boxes, carts rolling back and forth. Then realized that i was hearing 3 _seperate_ trucks idleing outside at the dock and 2\* seperate\* refrigeration compressors running outside. It is possible that there was a general increase in auditory perception. The effect that i was most aware of was that sounds were more sharply defined, clearly seperated from each other. This lasted less than 15 min. 3 1/2 hours Usual 30-45 min rest period. Comfortable power nap, no dreams. 5 1/2 hours subjects behavior normal now the city awakens time to sit up and dance 8 hours empty, outbound, and hammer down. conclusions In this test P109 had very limited external effects with only one possible trust response. Self effects were limited to a single auditory enhancment. This auditory effect was of the same nature as reported in the earlier test. Interestingly, it occured at roughly the same length of time after application of a comparable doseage. No analgesic response was noted. The auditory self effect may be repeatable and should be studied further. ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Nights](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jedi_nights/32/346_2.png) [@Jedi\_Nights](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jedi_Nights)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/12 "2008-11-20T17:31:47Z")
I’m adding my P109 solo report to this thread. Phero free for two days. Thought I’d try the freebie to-go P109. 7:45 AM 10 mu to front of neck and off to breakfast. Nothing noted. 8:30 AM 10 mu in car on the way to work. Nothing noted. Arrive at work at 9:00. Talked to a few fellow workers. Nothing noted. 10:00 AM 20 mu between forearms. Sneezing fit 5 minutes later. (?)Talked to a few fellow workers. Nothing noted. 11:00 AM pull out the stops. 50 mu between forearms. Ten minutes later I notice a ringing in my ears. 11:30 AM Sat down with Miss M and talked for about 15 minutes. Really didn’t notice anything different than a phero free day. 12:30 PM Went to lunch. No appetite suppression like P103. Ate all 560 calories. Still have ringing in my ears. 2:30 PM Had a long conversation with Lady S. Really didn’t notice anything different than a phero free day. 4:00 PM 20 mu between forearms. Leave work early and down to watering hole N. On the drive home I noticed it was taking more effort behind the wheel – felt “dreamy”. 4:30 PM At watering hole N with some of the regulars. Nothing noted. For me P109 was rather a dud. No elevated awareness of any senses. I prefer P103 and ordered another bottle of it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/13 "2008-11-21T02:51:43Z")
> [@Jedi\_Nights](#): > > 12:30 PM Went to lunch. No appetite suppression like P103. Ate all 560 calories. Still have ringing in my ears. > > For me P109 was rather a dud. No elevated awareness of any senses. > > I prefer P103 and ordered another bottle of it. 🙂 Appetite suppression? Is there a thread on this? And do you know of appetite suppression with any other pheros? OoohYahhh ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Nights](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jedi_nights/32/346_2.png) [@Jedi\_Nights](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jedi_Nights)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 4:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/14 "2008-11-21T04:46:02Z")
> [@OoohYahhh](#): > > Appetite suppression? Is there a thread on this? And do you know of appetite suppression with any other pheros? > > OoohYahhh Possibly P103 see [P103 solo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-solo-a-social-mone/22873) Day 4. I like this one. I have half a bottle left and ordered another one, which arrived today. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/15 "2008-11-21T06:19:40Z")
That was an interesting report, Mushroom Man. Reps. 🙂 Jedi…thanks for your report as well. Meh…we know the drill…too bad…one mans dud… However I’d be remiss if I didn’t tell you, that’s my usual reaction to most putatives when I’ve tested them alone. So I have a tendency, after my initial singular testing…which _mostly_ gets me nowhere, to pair it up with a mix or another molecule that I know well. That usually works and I can get a better handle on how that single putative works for me. So before you give up, try giving it another shot and you might see something you didn’t when using it alone. 😉 Anyways, all I’ve done tonight is correct spelling errors…\* yawn \*…I’m going to bed. Bella