P114 - Neroli Fragrance 30ml - 10 mcg per spray. What is this?!?

P114 Test #4
4 Sprays

App Points:
back of head, both sides of neck, throat rubbed wrists on application point

Venue:
Home / Office / Drive to Clients

Temp:
Mid 80s degrees F. clear blue skies. - Humidity @ 20 %

Application Time:
8:30 am First Application - re-applied every 3 1/2 to 4 hours until about 5:30, last application.

Self-Effects:

I am feeling like this sharpness and mental alertness is still around, but not as pronounced. I seem to be getting used to the effects. Not forgetful of little things…Drive to clients, I was going over work and things from home, mentally, going through previous days stuff and what I was going to do the following weeks, months… Mental activity is up…

Effects on others:

About 30 minutes from 2nd application, met a gal, O, let’s say, and have known her for many years, a supervisor at this clients office. We discussed issues that I need to address, asked her some questions, but besides being open about the issues that are to be resolved, she was normal to what I know of her. Not as flirty like before…though likely because its been about a year since I’ve seen her again…
DId feel somewhat, unable to be ‘alpha’ with another manager at this clients office, for some reason, mentally I knew what needed to be done and explained it, but seemed like this manager wasn’t having it. IDK, I hesitated on calling him on some points where I would normally do that. I was slow to speak as I was trying to figure out in my mind, how to approach the differences we were having. I let him have his way, finally, and I just did it his way. I didn’t feel Alpha for this convo. I know we will likely have to come back and change it, but, didn’t want the confrontation… very weird thoughts on lets just get back to our schedule…let’s finish already and GO!
I’m still not seeing any changes in behaviour from fellow employees at the office, not like the IS or A314 or IH… Need to try this on more people…

We’ll see what 50 mu does…

P114 Test #5
5 Sprays

App Points:
back of head, both sides of neck, forehead/hair, throat rubbed wrists on application point

Venue:
Home / Office / Drive to Clients

Temp:
Mid 90s degrees F. blue skies with high clouds. - Humidity @ ? %

Application Time:
8:00 am First Application - re-applied every 4 hours until about 4:00 pm, last application.

Self-Effects:

Still have that feeling of things being easier to think about and realize. Though, have that nagging feeling that I’m somewhat more thoughtful in my interactions with others.

Effects on others:

Ok, in the morning, about 2 hours after initial application, had a bit of a confrontation with a manager. I’ve known him for about a year, and we’ve butted heads before. Just sometimes we don’t see eye to eye. Well, I had some requests to modify some work orders that were assigned to him and as he hadn’t done them, I brought it to his attention. He wasn’t sure if it was his responsibility, but we both knew he was just trying to save face.
Well, he brings up some issues that I haven’t done either and he hasn’t received updates from me. I was flustered and though I haven’t given him the latest updates, I was waiting for his responses from the first updates, which I never received. I was thinking I should have responded to and requested that he respond but I hadn’t done that.
I just felt pushed into a corner easily… I wouldn’t have let this happen normally. But, I wanted to NOT have the confrontation and just capitulate and give him what he wanted, which was just a feeling of getting the better of me.

You know, I was thinking about this, and yes, I do feel alert, sharper, like a younger me. But also, that younger me had these same issues of not wanting confrontation… That was years ago and I’m reliving it… It does not feel good! I had gotten to a point about 10 years ago, where I FORCED myself to respond to these situations and NOT BACK down. I cultivated that voice inside that would YELL at me… If I felt bad with being in a confrontational situation, it would feel like a hug and a kiss, compared to the whuppin’ my inner self would give me if I didn’t step it up!!!

So, I’m missing my Pre-mones, sureness in myself. Nothing a little A314 couldn’t fix right up, I’m sure! I’m going to try out 8 sprays tomorrow and then give P114 a little break…

I’m glad that I’ve jotted this journal down, as it’s very different when the feelings and experiences are fresh, within the same day or within a couple of days to thinking about it later on…

P114 Test #6
8 Sprays (10 mu ea)

App Points:
back of head, both sides of neck, forehead/ 3x hair, throat, wrists

Venue:
Out with Friends/ Class

Temp:
Mid 70’s degrees F. blue skies with high clouds and windy. - Humidity @? %

Application Time:
8:30 am First Application - re-applied every 3 1/2 to 4 hours

Self-Effects:

Pre-p application was somewhat out of it. Feeling like I didn’t get enough sleep. After my super dose of 8, perked up somewhat. Did feel a bit like I was light headed, a bit harder to focus. It was about 1/2 hour before our friends were supposed to arrive.
Had some plans with friends to go out this morning, but they got there late. Normally, I’d be a bit miffed that they were not on time as A and I were already getting into our car to out and call them to just meet us at the first house we were viewing. I had an I don’t care attitude. I wanted to car pool to envelope them continuously in my mones. Well, they arrived as we pulled out and car pooled with us. Just a bit of I’m sorry I’m late…but I really didn’t care.

Were out viewing houses that are for sale and for lease. Went to several and I was in a not too sharp mental condition. I was able to focus on one or two things in front of me, but bring up a third and fourth option, It was harder to change gears and focus on those things…
Friends we were taking, an older lady around 50 and a younger friend about 30 who works in construction and maintenance of properties and she had done real estate in the area, though now does it part time.
They both, at different times, told A and myself they always enjoyed our company. Older lady friend asked if we can meet up at her place next weekend for some lunch she can prepare for use. But, both were in a good mood and I was talkative but hard to focus on changing convos. They were helpful with their opinions on the properties. Glad A was there to pickup where I was lacking in those details. I don’t know what happened to the sharpness…

Right before class started, 5 minutes, had my second application. At the class I teach, I was there, was alert, though I had to push myself to want to care about how the students are reacting and learning. I’m normally attentive to them and their individual needs. Bit of a social recluse feeling…

This was about 2 hours after 3rd application, Visited some family and didn’t seem to be much different tho’ my sister in law was somewhat more perky than usual. When we come over, many times, its a bit like, you again?!, though she tries to hides that vibe.
Not today, felt she was most attentive to us and offering of snacks, drinks etc was above normal, for sure. I though, had to push myself to be thankful and just CARE about the convos around me… Usually, can get into a convo, even though it may not be to my liking…

Big picture kind of thinking today, with loss of the details, even an I don’t care about them either feeling.

Felt tired during the day. Not the perky, ready to get going feeling. Not sleepy, but just a tire sensation of wanting to take it easy, sit down when I could…

Effects on others:

Possibly, a comforted feeling, relaxed. Was difficult to distinguish today what was NORMALLY their reactions and what could be different.

I think that P114 at 80 mu was a bit much for my system. I’m feeling better today after the shower and sleeping it off…

I’ll try another 80 mu to compare the effects of test #6. I’ll do that next week at work and see how my fellow 9 to 5’rs react to the P as well as to me!!!

P114 Test #6
8 Sprays (10 mu ea)

App Points:
back of head, both sides of neck, forehead, 3x hair, throat, wrists

Venue:
Drive to Office/Office

Temp:
Mid 60’s degrees F. Fluffy clouds and windy. - Humidity @ 28 %

Application Time:
8:00 am First Application - re-applied every 4 hours until 4:00 pm

Self-Effects:
Pre-p I woke up refreshed and ready for the day. With the daylight time change, giving an extra hour, I woke up a bit earlier. After application, went to my car and found I had a flat tire. Normally, would be a bit miffed about it, as I noticed a small nail had taken it out. For some reason my first thought was AAA Club. A said, why don’t you put on the spare? … I thought, well, duh… Why didn’t I think of that? My mind keeps racing through some scenarios but doesn’t come back to the basic, functional, everday stuff… I changed the tire, I was a bit methodical…then I was off. about 15 minutes into the drive, was feeling run down. Eyes felt heavy. Many thoughts about work, home, future, the past, kept on coming during my drive.
Got to work and within 10 minutes of arriving…

Funny thing happened… peculiar hit… I had a brief meeting with my supervisor with another engineer. 5 minutes into it, All of a sudden, he hears his office desk phone ringing… and asks me surprised… Are you calling me?!? … I just said noooo… not really sure what he meant by the question… Then, he comes back and says … you didn’t call me, that was my wife… the engineer thought it was funny and laughed and said… it seems like you started the drinking early… I was amused as well… we were in the middle of a meeting…why would I CALL MY SUPERVISOR at that time… for cryin’ out loud!!! He seemed off while he was around me… he said for some reason he just assumed I called him!!!

About 3 hours after application, I was answering calls and emails but was feeling so out of it, mentally tired and even sleepy. I walked around a bit and talked with some people in the warehouse and convo’s brought me back somewhat as well as the activity… but 30 minutes after getting back to my desk…the heavy eyelids returned.
I had my first reapplication and was worried I’d just fall off to sleep, get the small conference room for a 1/2 hour and just crash… but resisted and pushed myself to do what I had to do…
About 1/2 hour from this application, had a small lunch and found that one of my co-workers I was eating with, about 3 feet away, acting sort of loopy, buzzed, within 5 minutes of sitting down next to me. We were talking and I looked a bit groggy… maybe it just was my feeling groggy that he reflected… dunno… I noticed that 20 minutes later he left and we to his cubicle and actually laid his head down on his desk. He’s asian.

I was draggin’ all day. I applied at 4:00 pm, maybe 8 1/2 sprays, the first one wasn’t a complete spray but I still counted 8 complete sprays… I was worried about the drive home in an hour. I was a bit groggy and sleepy on the way home but put on the A/C and alternated with the Heater and was able to get home.

I got a call when I was arriving home and actually perked up to get info pertaining to my house. Was interested in what this consultant was telling me. Soon as we finished, within a minute, heavy eyelids, slower thinking kicked in.

I laid down on the couch for about 20 minutes… felt a bit better, but the heavy eyelids continued…

I also noticed that my P114 was about 1/2 gone. I’m likely experiencing some OD effects here but will either bring it up another notch to 10 or go down to 6…sprays…

I’ll think about it when my mind clears up some…

Ok, I’ve let this P sit for about a week…

I will give it a solo try again… I’m still debating on going up to 10 or down to 6 sprays…:frowning: but, same process as previous P114 test days…

Ok, I bit my lower lip and said, LET’S DO THIS!!! Grabbed the P114 bottle and went for the 100 mu!

P114 Test #7
10 x P114

Time:

8:15 am

Application Points:
Both Sides of neck, thoat, back of neck, just behind temples, top of hair x 2, and on each forearm (wearing short sleeve shirt).

Self Effects:

I wanted to make sure that I was well rested and alert prior to applying P114. So, I awoke refreshed and ready for the day. I had my morning rituals just fine and an eagerness for the day. After application, within a minute felt a bit whoosy, slight lightheadedness. This feeling has been coming and going during the morning. I was at the front door, with my bag and paperwork on the sofa, ready for me to leave, about 20 minutes after application, and I zoned out for about a minute or so, I was thinking if I had everything I needed in the car, basically doing a mental checklist…while doing this I blanked for a bit, just standing there and having random thought on things that have happened in the last week…Sort of like when you just stare out into space…blankly…It was peculiar and shook my head slightly when my bag came into focus and snapped out of it.
Just a bit on the tired side within 2 1/2 hours of application.

Great testing! So, do you think the tiredness and grogginess are definitely caused by the P114? It seems to be a consistent element of your reports, but I also wonder how much of it is a placebo effect, since by now you are probably expecting to become tired a couple of hours after application. It would be interesting if you could do a placebo test. Get an empty bottle and a bottle of the scent in perfumer’s alcohol at the same strength, or maybe another molecule in the same scent, cover the outsides with paper so you can’t tell which is which at all, and apply. Then note the effects over the course of the day. At the end of the day, check to see which one it was.

Do you see any particular applications for this molecule in mixes or alone?

P114 is among the true oddballs… I find it dissociating on an emotional level, sharpening on a perceptual level… there’s an almost cavalier “frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn” property, which is very good is you want a fly on the wall posture… it help me be both disengaged and objective (maybe it lowers adrenaline output?)… better in bracing cold clear weather, don’t think it would be as useful in warm, torpor inducing climates…

Yeah, I was thinking about that and will be ordering a 30ml bottle with neroli only and cover the labels… and give it a go…

Thanks Vespero!

Yup, I had that feeling of NOT Caring, Indifferent to others… as well as the sharpness at the lower mu levels…a numbing of sections of my brain, a very peculiar feeling, almost like I’m buzzed from some hard liqueur but without the loss of presence.

Will try a placebo test, the same blue bottle, same scent, see what happens!!!

Well, I was somewhat scatterbrained with this amount. I reapplied the same amount 5 hours and 50 minutes later. On the drive to the clients, still feel the lightheadedness and I was focused on a straight line afternoon shadow that was being thrown at a 30 degree angle across the back of a semi that I was following. Zoned out while focusing on it for a few seconds…I was attracted to the unusual line cast by the shadow…
About 15 minutes later, entered this clients office. Scatterbrained, for example, I was doing some testing at a clients office, and called A from one of the phones… I was supposed to dial into a test service…for some reason, when I was dialing, though I had the phone number in front of me, I dialed her cell! Even when she pickup up, I looked at the display and SAW her number, heard her voice, I thought, something’s wrong with the phone…Not My Dialing, but the PHONE…Then a second later, I realized that it WAS my mistake…While I was speaking to the client, a couple of times had to close my eyes to complete my thoughts…I was grasping to get specific details out of my mind and out of my mouth. I noticed if I closed my eyes, these details will come faster.

Though peculiarly, when I left the office, I got to my car and looked for my sunglasses. I basically asked myself, where are my glasses? and I realized immediately they weren’t there but on the desk where I was working for an hour, just to the left of the phone set next to a couple of bottles. I clearly visualized where they were…was positive… and returned and found them exactly where I visualized…It was peculiar because the mental picture was so sharp and clear.

Still have the slight buzzed feeling like I’ve had a couple of beers and I can’t turn my head too quickly, or I’ll aggravate the dizziness, it will spike then go back to no dizziness.

Had a bit of yawning during the day, BTW. Not, a gotta go to bed feeling, just run down…

I covered the labels of P114 today as well as my Perfumer’s Alcohol with 6% Neroli.

I mixed them up and left both on the counter. I picked one and applied 6 sprays at 7:00 am. Left it in it’s assigned application spot… and I had family over for breakfast.

Pre-mone application, I was well rested and good for the day. After the 6 sprays, I felt the nice Neroli was enjoyable, though I didn’t ‘feel’ any different. The family arrived about 1/2 hour later from application. I noticed NO sharpness, alertness, or any other change in my demeanor with the family. I prepared breakfast with my sister in law and I didn’t have any change in myself or her, pretty laid back, relaxed and joking like we normally do when together.
Kids were just fine, a bit miffed about getting up so early, but not more so than usual! I could still smell the scent of Neroli…

By 1:00 pm, I was prepared to check on what I put on… I KNEW it was the Neroli only… I opened up the cover and, that’s what it was…:cool:

I can say that besides the effects on myself and others, I can really tell in the scent of the Neroli is one thing, and the mones is another, it just seems to tickle ever so softly my nose…VNO…I guess…Though, I don’t think I’ll be able to tell by this alone one mone from another…

Love the Neroli scent though…I’ll just use it again to do some more of these tests of the P’s…

Ha i read it all and i finally get to say this … I lived in walnut for about 4 years lol :slight_smile: there

Hey Ultiy! YOU braved it among the asians, huh? That 60/57 exchange can be a bear during rush hour and most other times of the day :stuck_out_tongue:

So I know ya know about the traffic there…very nice neighbourhoods there as well, very calm area of LA…

Yea i grew up there visited a few times after moving and i think i know exactly what your talking about my grandpa had a wreck and i think it was there and yea its crazy its like a 6 or 8 lane road / highway idk what they call em there maybe an interstate isn’t it but everyone drives crazy like 80mph and yea the old Asian ladies like cutting you off lol

just text my mom back home she said that’s where he wrecked. BTW he is still alive lol

Some of my conclusions:

A summary of P114…

10 mu:
Some sharpening of my senses, from what I experienced, mostly visual sharpness, edges and contrasts seemed more pronounced.

20 mu:
Best effects found at this level. Sharpness of thinking, focus of actions, others around me show some IOI’s and a relaxed attitude. A hint of not caring about others or there actions.

30 mu:
Similar to the 20 mu, though a much more grounded feel. Not interested in others actions, I don’t care what you do feel which also translated to having little empathy for the thoughts or plight of others.

40 mu up to 100 mu:
At 40 mu and above, the 30 mu don’t care attitude was accentuated and a lost and loopy feeling became dominant. A loss of direction and loss of self confidence began to appear. Not wanting to have confrontations. This was up to 100 mu where these feelings were magnified and the sharpness and focus at lower mu was totally lost.

Very interesting posts Alpha! Starting next week, I will be testing my new unknown P :slight_smile: I am excited! I think I will keep it in my journal and post the over the top stuff in the guys talk area! So do you think P114 is worth adding to a daily mix or is this one that you should take caution with?