# P130 report: feels close to Instant Shine, mood lift but less confidence **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 7, 2010, 5:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p130-report-feels-close-to-instant-shine-mood-lift-but-less-confidence/42403 "2010-10-07T05:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 5:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p130-report-feels-close-to-instant-shine-mood-lift-but-less-confidence/42403/1 "2010-10-07T05:03:37Z")
Ok so I tried it, honestly I felt it work and I see it work on others. But really it feels like Shine to me. Maybe I’m not experienced enough to notice finer details like some other users. And maybe not experienced enough for a report on something like this to be much value but seriously it felt so close to Instant Shine that I almost wonder if it’s TAA. I got a nice mood lift from it. Not so much of a confidence boost though. I think that’s one area where it did seem to differ from shine. Other people seem more upbeat. A couple were chattier than normal but not enough that I’d compare it to Alpha Nol. I also didn’t see the charismatic effect I get from shine, but likewise not so much of the beta approval seeking vibe I get from heavy doses of IO. Now those are my effects using P130 by itself. at both 2 and 3 sprays. applied in the morning before work and again at lunch to carry me through the rest of the day. It did seem to help with the DR I work with I should mention. His mother in law passed away friday and he’s been pretty somber but I did note that when I was within about 8 feet of him for at least a minute or longer his mood seemed to lighten a little. Nothing crazy, a death in the family is more than mones can take care of but it did seem to help. For the record I tried 1 spray thursday and friday of last week with no noticable effects. I applied two sprays monday and saw and felt some effect and then three sprays yesterday and today. I am curious however. Given it’s mood lifting properties I’d like to see how it compliments Instant Shine and/or [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). I figure while the effects are similar in many ways, they are obviously different molecules and thus most likely work through different pathways in the neurons…I’m wondering if I can get a synergistic 1+1=3 effect by combining it with Shine or Anol…if so it could be the ultimate “feel good” mix available. ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p130-report-feels-close-to-instant-shine-mood-lift-but-less-confidence/42403/2 "2010-10-07T05:16:38Z")
I see where you could get an [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) vibe from it but to me it seems a lot different. It’s got kind of a bnol, disinbitive + attractive quality as well in my experience. I don’t really notice any extra chattiness, etc. that would be associated with anol, though it does have some slightly beta self-effects at times…but I don’t notice people treating me as beta. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p130-report-feels-close-to-instant-shine-mood-lift-but-less-confidence/42403/3 "2010-10-07T05:17:38Z")
Give it a shot with some A314. Thats when the effects slapped me in the face and I was more able to notice them by itself. ---
**Author:** ![Bearcat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bearcat/32/739_2.png) [@Bearcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bearcat)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 11:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p130-report-feels-close-to-instant-shine-mood-lift-but-less-confidence/42403/4 "2010-10-07T11:36:06Z")
I’ll have to compare P130, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and MX138 (Liquid Sunshine)… ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p130-report-feels-close-to-instant-shine-mood-lift-but-less-confidence/42403/5 "2010-10-08T03:28:10Z")
Or maybe, rad, you’re just naturally so cool. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p130-report-feels-close-to-instant-shine-mood-lift-but-less-confidence/42403/6 "2010-10-08T03:41:13Z")
LOL I wish. Nah I think I’m fairly good at reading body language and the like but only on a gross level, more acute observations may just be beyond me. Honestly the effects of IO and Shine are pretty damn similar to me. The only real difference I notice is that The more shine I use the better, but if I use more than two sprays of IO I lose any respect vibe I may get from products like A314. [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) doesn’t lose me any respect so it seems more like Shine as a mood lifter. I noticed a couple of people being more chatty but not enough people or with enough consistency for me to compare it to IO in any way. It felt good…great actually…just too familiar. I’m sure there are differences but for my senses and level of reading other people…it wasn’t a huge difference from Shine. ---
**Author:** ![iSmellNice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ismellnice/32/1188_2.png) [@iSmellNice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iSmellNice)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p130-report-feels-close-to-instant-shine-mood-lift-but-less-confidence/42403/7 "2010-10-08T05:57:28Z")
Interesting you should mention combos of [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) and other mones. I just tried a combination of P130, IO, and A314 today before going to a meeting with a bunch of alpha males. The results were AWESOME. Summary: KILLER natural social comfort. Flowing, effortless and focused. Almost like an experienced stage performer or speaker out for a walk on a really nice day. If you want more details (don’t wanna hijack the thread), check out my journal entry [here.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-super-smelly-adventures-of-nostrils-gone-crazy/41708/31)