# P51Mustang's Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [May 27, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913 "2010-05-27T16:50:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/222 "2010-10-11T12:39:57Z")
Good Read P51. So do you think that she normally acts that way or did the mones take effect? To be honest, looking from the outside I would say these were some strong IOI’s. I wouldn’t view it as much as competing with you as I would say that she is wanting your attention. Too bad the feelings are gone. Or maybe that’s a good thing. I would have thrown in a light neg about her puppy dogging you. And then cavemanned her. lol I’m kidding about the caveman bit, or am i?? 🙂 Look forward to reading more. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 12:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/223 "2010-10-11T12:49:25Z")
> [@JosieWilder](#): > > Good Read P51. So do you think that she normally acts that way or did the mones take effect? To be honest, looking from the outside I would say these were some strong IOI’s. I wouldn’t view it as much as competing with you as I would say that she is wanting your attention. Too bad the feelings are gone. Or maybe that’s a good thing. I would have thrown in a light neg about her puppy dogging you. And then cavemanned her. lol > I’m kidding about the caveman bit, or am i?? 🙂 > Look forward to reading more. I do know her and she’s done that to me before I guess that’s her way of getting me to chase. But I was looking for a little more maturity on her part. We’re in our mid 20’s this bs shouldn’t have to come up. I know feelings were rekindled for her and in her own way was trying to reach out. I notice this all the time too when she keeps commenting right after me on our friends’ pages. Having feelings gone sucks, but I can’t do anything about it now. You know what they say, on to the next one. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/224 "2010-10-11T18:21:16Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Having feelings gone sucks, but I can’t do anything about it now. You know what they say, on to the next one. Yep. I have the opposite problem though. My latest ex-girlfriend is resentful (that old saying about hell hath no fury like a woman scorned REALLY has something to it…) A woman that is dumped can be all smiles to your face and be spiteful and vindictive behind your back. Not that she wasn’t a two faced liar while we were together though. That’s why I broke it off with her. My ex-wife is actually being friendly to me again. Could be because she’s already got another fiance. 🙄 Maybe time helps these things swing back around. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/225 "2010-10-11T19:44:18Z")
Good call to not post anything. She is seeking a reaction and even if you posted something nice, she would have gotten the reaction and then you lose the power. In the words of Rage Against the Machine: Take the Power Back! ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/226 "2010-10-11T21:11:00Z")
> [@Wolfishgrin](#): > > Yep. I have the opposite problem though. My latest ex-girlfriend is resentful (that old saying about hell hath no fury like a woman scorned REALLY has something to it…) A woman that is dumped can be all smiles to your face and be spiteful and vindictive behind your back. Not that she wasn’t a two faced liar while we were together though. That’s why I broke it off with her. My ex-wife is actually being friendly to me again. Could be because she’s already got another fiance. 🙄 Maybe time helps these things swing back around. 🆒 That’s what some would called: “that’s a hard saying.” ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/227 "2010-10-11T21:17:06Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Good call to not post anything. She is seeking a reaction and even if you posted something nice, she would have gotten the reaction and then you lose the power. In the words of Rage Against the Machine: Take the Power Back! In the chess, Mustang we called your move, \*a classic… **‘check’** \ ***.** ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/228 "2010-10-11T21:18:57Z")
> [@MVKBUGATTI](#): > > In the chess, Mustang we called your move, \*a classic… **‘check’** \ ***.** Was kinda hoping there woulda been some “mating” involved. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/229 "2010-10-11T21:47:08Z")
> [@Wolfishgrin](#): > > Yep. I have the opposite problem though. My latest ex-girlfriend is resentful (that old saying about hell hath no fury like a woman scorned REALLY has something to it…) A woman that is dumped can be all smiles to your face and be spiteful and vindictive behind your back. Not that she wasn’t a two faced liar while we were together though. That’s why I broke it off with her. My ex-wife is actually being friendly to me again. Could be because she’s already got another fiance. 🙄 Maybe time helps these things swing back around. 🆒 It does 😛. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/230 "2010-10-12T17:28:57Z")
**Product:** MX385 **Application:** Sides of neck, Approx 2.5 sprays (New bottle) **Temps:** Mid 70’s moderate humidity, office environment **Self Effects:** Nauseating smell, just starting to get used to it. I sprayed cologne, but I didn’t cover actual application spot so the diffusion won’t change by added fragrance and alcohol. **Effects on Others:** Impressive effects so far. I had multiple appointments this morning and I wore this just by itself today and see how it was going to work out, if at all. I don’t have my typical A314 application and I usually have a good time with clients explaining proposals because of the vibe A314 gives, but for some reason MX385 help along in that aspect as well. Client #1: Very reserved very conservative. Will not just volunteer information easily. This definitely helped me close the sale I was doing. I had previous interactions with her and I was barely able to get the information from her that I normally would need. This had beta-nol/[Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) like effects on her. I thought that this was strictly an Alpha Nol test pack but after my experiences, I’m thinking that this had some trusting properties mixed in. It made the sale that much easier. Client #2 I’ve worked with this client for years. We have a good relationship and there is the trust and respect there already. No matter how long and how well I’ve serviced the client, I was never ever able to find out details that I needed to fully expand the relationship. But after today’s interaction, about 10 min from initial sit down, I was able to get after information I sought after for the last two years. The client just blurted it out and asked me if I wanted to know the information. What the heck??? I’ve worn A314 with this client before and not the expect I was really expecting. As for my co workers, I wasn’t getting the same chatty vibe I was getting from them normally, but it was morning and it was early. I’m going to reapply and see what the other half of the day leads. EDIT: I really really really dislike the Androstenol smell ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/231 "2010-10-13T01:59:31Z")
The rest of the day with this MX went pretty smoothly. I had a bunch of my co workers coming into my desk every so often and just kept conversing. This was definitely more than normal. I might have to go and test out beta nol at around comparable levels to see which one this is. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/232 "2010-10-13T02:00:42Z")
You don’t like the smell?? Hmm… I think I started with 384. Haven’t tested it alone yet. I think it smells awesome. Reminds me of the smell of a newborn baby. Oh and I don’t think it’s just alpha -nol either. I think it’s natural androstenol which I’m guessing is both beta and alpha right? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/233 "2010-10-13T15:47:17Z")
> [@JosieWilder](#): > > You don’t like the smell?? Hmm… I think I started with 384. Haven’t tested it alone yet. I think it smells awesome. Reminds me of the smell of a newborn baby. Oh and I don’t think it’s just alpha -nol either. I think it’s natural androstenol which I’m guessing is both beta and alpha right? It just makes me, bleh. Really dont like it but I’m sucking it up ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/234 "2010-10-13T17:45:32Z")
Second report Same environment except it was two sprays of MX385. Pheromones were sprayed on in bare application points, where I had my cologne there was no mixing. _John, if this is an issue to cloud the results please let me know I won’t wear cologne that day_ Effects: I’m in a new office today where I will be a couple of days a week, fresh new exposures. - The conversations were more in depth. I was getting asked more questions about myself and my credentials. - I was also getting avoidance of eye contact. I wasn’t wearing any [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) , none, I haven’t worn it since Saturday. It seems mixed for me the type of quenstions and conversations I was getting into. One one hand it seemed like I was viewed as more beta because of the question, but it could be getting tested on my knowledge. I also had a colleague reveal more of underlying concerns to me today. I don’t know what it is but I’m thinking this is beta Androstenol . The effects are just too much like it for me to not think it is. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 5:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/235 "2010-10-15T05:31:42Z")
MX301 and A314 report, edited for privacy. PM me for report. ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 6:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/236 "2010-10-15T06:04:45Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Damnit the stupid report got erased. > > Anyways I was going out with the boys after work. Fun times, same bar I always go to on a Thursday night. > > I had on: > A314, About 3 drops, I’m using what’s left of my old bottle with inconsistent drops. > MX301, 3 sprays. > > Attire was a suit after work. > > We’re at the place having fun having a great time. > > Along the course of the night, one of the bartenders there, whom I consider a friend told me she couldn’t find her phone. She asked me to call it. I said no, I don’t have your number, we never gave it to each other. She’s like oh ok, so I gave her my phone and told her to go ahead and call, but she just told me her number as I dialed it. I called it, she found it. I joked around with her saying, well, now you have my number, I better not get any drunk texts. We kinda have that fun, sometimes flirty, sarcastic banter that goes back and forth. > > I typically never saw her as anything I would pursue. She’s probably one of the most gorgeous, best personality, great overall women I’ve ever met. I just never thought of it because I’ve never really been interested in women taller than me. It’s just never happened. > > Anyways. My friend kinda remarked at me like oh look how you have her number. I never intended to get it, or even felt the need to get it. It was just one of those things I didn’t wanna do. I’m not going to hit on, make it weird, for people who serve me drinks and have fun with, just for a number. I knew what it was and I accepted that. But this situation kinda just gave me an impression of how powerful mones can work. > > I really don’t think that hit was anything attraction based. I’ll tell you why. The A314, coupled with how I looked that night, gave that dependable, nice, trustworthy, non-creepy guy vibe. The MX301 has that attraction aura about it, the boyfriend effect. I don’t think that she had that for me, but the molecules in there might have steered it in that direction. > > My thoughts were, as I reflect back on it. She could have just asked the other bartender to call her phone, or to call from the house line, or someone else that worked there. Also two of my friends were right next to me, and it took me a minute or so to get my phone out of my pocket. Thing was too the bar was that loud that you probably couldn’t hear it anyway but I just did it anyway to help a friend out. > > All night I was just like wtf, am I missing out on signs? Guys I will tell you if I know a girl is giving me IOI’s but I just dismissed a bunch of them because I thought otherwise. > > My opinion, nothing there just friendly, but I’d like the people who read this Journal to chime in and give their thoughts Hmm, that’s a hard one. I think I’d have to be there to see it with my own eyes. Yes, she could have asked an employee, but does she wanna bother them when they could be maing $ asking there customers to find there lost phones? 😉 Just being devils advocate…but, it seems possible the MX301 could have steered it into her . But when you joked and said you didnt wanna get any drunk texts, EXACTLY what did she say back? ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 6:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/237 "2010-10-15T06:05:31Z")
You have two options. 1.) Do nothing and nothing will happen. This way you are in the same boat no matter what you do 2.) Take a shot and maybe something will happen. It could be something good, but you’ll never know if you don’t try. I know where I’d rather be 🙂. If I have learned anything since I started using mones, its that a little initiation on the mans part can go a very long way. Go for it. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 6:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/238 "2010-10-15T06:05:51Z")
Damnit the stupid report got erased. Anyways I was going out with the boys after work. Fun times, same bar I always go to on a Thursday night. I had on: A314, About 3 drops, I’m using what’s left of my old bottle with inconsistent drops. MX301, 3 sprays. Attire was a suit after work. We’re at the place having fun having a great time. Along the course of the night, one of the bartenders there, whom I consider a friend told me she couldn’t find her phone. She asked me to call it. I said no, I don’t have your number, we never gave it to each other. She’s like oh ok, so I gave her my phone and told her to go ahead and call, but she just told me her number as I dialed it. I called it, she found it. I joked around with her saying, well, now you have my number, I better not get any drunk texts. We kinda have that fun, sometimes flirty, sarcastic banter that goes back and forth. I typically never saw her as anything I would pursue. She’s probably one of the most gorgeous, best personality, great overall women I’ve ever met. I just never thought of it because I’ve never really been interested in women taller than me. It’s just never happened. Anyways. My friend kinda remarked at me like oh look how you have her number. I never intended to get it, or even felt the need to get it. It was just one of those things I didn’t wanna do. I’m not going to hit on, make it weird, for people who serve me drinks and have fun with, just for a number. I knew what it was and I accepted that. But this situation kinda just gave me an impression of how powerful mones can work. I really don’t think that hit was anything attraction based. I’ll tell you why. The A314, coupled with how I looked that night, gave that dependable, nice, trustworthy, non-creepy guy vibe. The MX301 has that attraction aura about it, the boyfriend effect. I don’t think that she had that for me, but the molecules in there might have steered it in that direction. My thoughts were, as I reflect back on it. She could have just asked the other bartender to call her phone, or to call from the house line, or someone else that worked there. Also two of my friends were right next to me, and it took me a minute or so to get my phone out of my pocket. Thing was too the bar was that loud that you probably couldn’t hear it anyway but I just did it anyway to help a friend out. All night I was just like wtf, am I missing out on signs? Guys I will tell you if I know a girl is giving me IOI’s but I just dismissed a bunch of them because I thought otherwise. My opinion, nothing there just friendly, but I’d like the people who read this Journal to chime in and give their thoughts ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 6:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/239 "2010-10-15T06:06:26Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > You have two options. > > 1.) Do nothing and nothing will happen. This way you are in the same boat no matter what you do > > 2.) Take a shot and maybe something will happen. It could be something good, but you’ll never know if you don’t try. I’m gonna leave it. I didn’t think anything of it till my friend said something. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 6:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/240 "2010-10-15T06:08:27Z")
I decided to go with MX395 from the UF test pack. Came out with some pretty awesome results Its getting cooler out her so it was about mid 50’s and 70’s indoors. I sprayed on each side of the neck for a total of two sprays. I refreshed around the 3 hour mark with 1 spray. My gosh, when they say that UF is supposed to be in your face blatant these results were blatant I cannot even begin to tell you how there were so many deviations from the normal reactions from girls I knew that I couldn’t believe. First of all that night, I went to visit a friend at a bar she manages, which conveniently is right across the street from where I had to be that night. We’re just talking and bsing. One of the bartenders there somehow got a bruise on her leg, and they were talking about it, and how she’s going to look like she got beat up at the end of the night. We were joking about how it was rough sex and she just didn’t want to admit it. Overall the conversations were just good banter back and forth. Now what surprised me was she comes outside the bar and tells me to go feel her leg and the bulge that’s coming out on the side of her thigh. You shoulda seen it, cause it’s pretty comical now that I look at it. She’s about 5’11, and I’m about mid 5’s. And she’s like can you believe that, and she takes my hand and slides it on her leg. I was thinking to myself, what the fuck, but that’s like the total unexpected outcome of that interaction. It could be that she was immediately comfortable with me, I dunno whats in this MX but that theme of the night kept on going and going. I get into the place where everyone else is. I say hi to everyone and I get a complement from one of the girls there I don’t really expect anything from. That I can’t elaborate on, it’s too public for me to do that. Anyways, the biggest hit I got of the night was with one of my friends. We talk but it’s really just friendly and nothing more attraction based or sexual was ever there, nor any tension or anything more than that. But damn, last night we were getting CLOSE and dancing and kino was a lot more than I ever thought could have happened with us. We got close a couple of times and I’m just really happy it didn’t go further. I would end up cock blocking myself for a long while if that happened. But the rest of the IOI’s I was getting that night were ridiculous. I’ve never gotten that many looks and complements from girls that both I knew and didn’t know. I didn’t change anything except I had a nice shirt on, but I don’t think that could have been it. There were more incidental touching than I normally get and I think if I played on it more, I coulda escalated to something else with someone there. I just had to leave early cause I had work early but I might have to test this out again tonight. ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/241 "2010-10-15T06:11:13Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > The bar was DEAD. > > And she was just like “Nooo I don’t do that” and smiled Yeah, I’d leave it friendly but keep wearing sexual mones around her. Pretend they aren’t even there. I did this in the past and it got me what i wanted without having to do much of anything with a fellow co-worker who I wanst her type at all. I sorta built up the the sexual tension via mones, while talking and acting completly platonic and friendly on the outside. This is why I love MONES. Love love love. 😛 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913.md?page=11) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913.md?page=13)