# P51Mustang's Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [May 27, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913 "2010-05-27T16:50:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 14

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**Author:** ![iSmellNice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ismellnice/32/1188_2.png) [@iSmellNice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iSmellNice)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/262 "2010-10-19T13:54:01Z")

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Partial solution to the privacy concern is to change names and places, and even time attributes (when you did something, how long it took, etc). I do it all the time in my entries to obsfuscate my experiences.

However, the data on the mones is 100% real.

I also wouldn’t mind a private area for mones.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/263 "2010-10-19T17:11:07Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> I just had to store this here for now, I couldn’t do the editing I needed to keep things private.
> 
> However
> 
> [Why A314 insiders club?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-a314-insiders-club/40236/8)
> 
> Which is why I thought it could be moved here without incurring any problems.
> 
> It’ll be moved back regardless, I don’t want to ruffle any feathers.

I understood why you did it, but A314 forum is about A314 and not for journals. Harris has made that absolutely clear. The entire idea of the journal system was debated because of this very situation. It was very close to being a no go. We made it so it wasn’t accessible to search engines and non-registered logged in users. It is secure to the best of our ability without hindering marketing, which Jasmin does mention. If one person does it, then all of a sudden it is no longer private and others believe they can do it too. Even just for a minute or hour. Ruffled feathers, perhaps only of Michael who has asked me to have you exiled 😮

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/264 "2010-10-19T19:50:27Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> I understood why you did it, but A314 forum is about A314 and not for journals. Harris has made that absolutely clear. The entire idea of the journal system was debated because of this very situation. It was very close to being a no go. We made it so it wasn’t accessible to search engines and non-registered logged in users. It is secure to the best of our ability without hindering marketing, which Jasmin does mention. If one person does it, then all of a sudden it is no longer private and others believe they can do it too. Even just for a minute or hour. Ruffled feathers, perhaps only of Michael who has asked me to have you exiled 😮

As long as I can still get access to my A314 i’ll be happy

Then well maybe I’ll be able to journal there, since its all I’ll be using 😃

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/265 "2010-10-19T20:11:47Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> Today was just a random day, so I’m like ok hmm. Let’s try out MX392, the only one I haven’t tested out yet.
> 
> Normal two drops of A314 and 2.5 sprays of MX392
> 
> I was a little bit more upbeat this morning than most on the drive into work today, nothing really too special. However I did notice agitation coming easier for me today. It was almost like a don’t take shit attitude and I was laying down the law, and I didn’t care what my co workers thought. It wasn’t in an asshole way but I was just calling them out on the BS and wasn’t tolerating it at all.
> 
> Also I did notice that the women were a lot more talkative to me than normal, its a deviation from baseline than normal conversations I’ve had, and it was almost like an attractant to talk. I figure this would be different in more social situations so I have to take a report on that. It wasn’t like a CTTM or IO type of conversation because in my experiences, you have to be around the area for effect, but this is like a magnet, and cling! I literally had to end interactions to get this done and out of the way.
> 
> On also a side and further report. The effects of MX393 on how I found normal average looking women very sensual and primal attraction in mating, I didn’t get with MX301. I left work early and I was going to run some errands and I kept trying to notice anything out of the ordinary. I only used about 2x of MX301, same -none dosage as MX393 and no similar effects. I did get a compliment on the scent from my friend (who reacts positively to the mones) and that was about it, but the MX301 tests have always been a great hitter for me and there was nothing out of the ordinary. I think that for newer users that aren’t well versed in the congruency of a mix, MX393 could be better because of the self effects. However, in the hands of a skillful and experienced user, MX301 would be the most versatile and effective.
> 
> Thanks for MVK for pointing this out for me, and while this was just a one test type of deal right now, I will have plenty of opportunities in the next couple of weeks to really get to the nitty gritty of these mixes.

I had a very similar experience with 392 but in regards to men. I was at 3 sprays and I got tired of the please and thank yous from them, I wasn’t at full agitation, but I wanted to just scream at them..“man up.” Which is weird because politeness isn’t a feminine thing, I guess it was just that they wouldn’t stop. Convos went like this…

Me: One small coffee you want room?  
Them: Yes please, thank you.  
Me: HOw about a blueberry muffin to go with that?  
Them: No, but thank you.  
Me: Here’s your coffee.  
Them: Thank you very much.  
Me: You’re welcome… have a nice day.  
Them: Ok Thank you. Where’s the cream?  
Me: Follow me  
Them: Thank you so much.  
Me: Right here and sweetners if you need it.  
Them: Thanks again.  
Me: (getting tired of this) You’re welcome. Enjoy  
Them: Thank you!  
I walk away and then they get me one more time as they’re walking out the door.  
Them: Thank you so much have a great day!

Dear God shut the fuck up!!!

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/266 "2010-10-19T20:15:44Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> I understood why you did it, but A314 forum is about A314 and not for journals. Harris has made that absolutely clear. The entire idea of the journal system was debated because of this very situation. It was very close to being a no go. We made it so it wasn’t accessible to search engines and non-registered logged in users. It is secure to the best of our ability without hindering marketing, which Jasmin does mention. If one person does it, then all of a sudden it is no longer private and others believe they can do it too. Even just for a minute or hour. Ruffled feathers, perhaps only of Michael who has asked me to have you exiled 😮

Hmmm…did I miss something? Or is this just a joke?

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/267 "2010-10-19T20:45:43Z")

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> [@thegentleman](#):
>
> Hmmm…did I miss something? Or is this just a joke?

TG have you tested MX395 yet?

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/268 "2010-10-19T21:02:58Z")

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> [@thegentleman](#):
>
> Hmmm…did I miss something? Or is this just a joke?

No joke, P51 is going to be exiled to the woman’s side of the forum

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/269 "2010-10-19T21:14:36Z")

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It has often left me feeling a little vulnerable at times having a journal. The thought of someone I know coming across it and reading my experiences; complete with time and date. It’s like an auto-biography I’d never want to publish. I like to keep my pheromone use personal. I comfort myself in the fact that the google bots can’t get to it. Still I find it disconcerting when a member with zero posts is “Viewing This Topic” for several hours at a time. I try to de-personalise my journal with american slang I’ve picked up from various places. Unless there is immediate reason - like someone finding a bottle of yours - to fear your privacy being exposed, Mustang, I wouldn’t worry too much; the world is a big place and this journal section is a pretty decent hiding place.

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/270 "2010-10-19T21:54:15Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> TG have you tested MX395 yet?

No not yet, may just skip the IH / [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) tests and move onto 393, haven’t yet decided.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/271 "2010-10-19T22:20:09Z")

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I’ve had a legitimate scare with my journal, which is why I stopped using it for an extended amount of time. I am past it though, but I completely understand P51 is coming from.

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**Author:** ![iSmellNice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ismellnice/32/1188_2.png) [@iSmellNice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iSmellNice)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/272 "2010-10-19T23:41:15Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> No joke, P51 is going to be exiled to the woman’s side of the forum

Doesn’t sound like such a bad thing! 😃 Hell, exile me there, too! Lol

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**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 12:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/273 "2010-10-20T00:06:19Z")

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> [@iSmellNice](#):
>
> Doesn’t sound like such a bad thing! 😃 Hell, exile me there, too! Lol

So I guess Mustang has revive the ‘LOST’ series for another season.🙂

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/274 "2010-10-20T14:23:49Z")

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I gotta work myself back from being exiled so today I’m testing out

MX386 from the Androstenol Split pack.

Application around 10AM today sprayed on sides of the neck but further back a bit.

I wasted the first spray so I can get the exact dosage I needed at two sprays.

Update #1:

I got a lot of issues and personal business that was splilled to me today at work. I was getting more and more of non work related conversations that were going on today. As much as I wanted to keep it professional and just by the book work, things kept going on a more social level.

Will also be reapplying 2 more sprays at the same application points again.

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**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/275 "2010-10-20T16:40:25Z")

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> [@thegentleman](#):
>
> I had a very similar experience with 392 but in regards to men. I was at 3 sprays and I got tired of the please and thank yous from them, I wasn’t at full agitation, but I wanted to just scream at them..“man up.” Which is weird because politeness isn’t a feminine thing, I guess it was just that they wouldn’t stop. Convos went like this…
> 
> Me: One small coffee you want room?  
> Them: Yes please, thank you.  
> Me: HOw about a blueberry muffin to go with that?  
> Them: No, but thank you.  
> Me: Here’s your coffee.  
> Them: Thank you very much.  
> Me: You’re welcome… have a nice day.  
> Them: Ok Thank you. Where’s the cream?  
> Me: Follow me  
> Them: Thank you so much.  
> Me: Right here and sweetners if you need it.  
> Them: Thanks again.  
> Me: (getting tired of this) You’re welcome. Enjoy  
> Them: Thank you!  
> I walk away and then they get me one more time as they’re walking out the door.  
> Them: Thank you so much have a great day!
> 
> Dear God shut the fuck up!!!

LOL I get this sometimes too…the worst ones are the people who apologize when YOU mess up their order. It’s like, Dude, it wasn’t even your fault and you already tipped me. You don’t have to tell me how sorry you are 15 times to get your salad remade.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/276 "2010-10-20T18:47:47Z")

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Crisis averted!!!

Back to reporting!

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**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/277 "2010-10-20T19:07:26Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> Crisis averted!!!
> 
> Back to reporting!

Happy times are here again 😉

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/278 "2010-10-20T19:16:48Z")

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So its time to give my feedback from MX395.

The first situation I was in, it really didn’t register any hits for me. I’m th inking too that A314 might have something to do to turn down or block the intended effects of the MX’s. However some of the MX’s from this test pack haven’t yielded quite the results I would have expected but MX395 has that attraction and pull effect about it.

The second through fourth tests I had of it was at a bar/party settings. Effects that I noticed were blatant and in your face.

Technicals:  
MX395 2x sides of neck  
Weather: Mid 70’s indoors, Mid 50’s outside.

MX395 seems to have more sparked attraction and blatant in your face reactions. I would have to guess that there is some [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) in here.

The results of the second test were blatant in terms of -none like reactions from younger women. More physical contact, more in your face attraction that is more instinct rather than logic. People were looking at my interactions with shock, not the bad kind of shock, but the “wow what the heck just happened” typic of shock.

From older women in their mid to later 20’s, the attraction was more subtle. I can only describe it was more of a bambi doe’d eye type of look with a glassed eye look. The attraction is there but it isn’t blatant as the younger girls that I’ve experienced it with.

On my fourth test there were some noticeable 1 on 1 reactions.

There were blatant changes in interactions from baseline from this one person. The flirting was intensified, it was more playful and connection based attraction. I went over the interaction in my mind over and over again and I couldn’t help notice that once I took my opinion bias out, it was a blatant attraction hit. The best way I can describe it is playful flirting. It wasn’t playful friendliness at all, I’ve gone over and over it in my mind and while I still self-doubt (Because this girl is gorgeous) all things point to it. The progression with this one, so it doesn’t screw up anything for testing was A314 2x + MX301, the first night I started to notice things. MX395 the second time I noticed something, next I might have to trying out A314 + P96 + IH and Androstenone.

I gotta see if there can be a level of progression here that I can establish to see if mones play into the equation or the interaction was just fleeting.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/279 "2010-10-21T15:08:31Z")

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**MX386** x4 on the sides of the neck and the back.

**Self Effects:** Nauseating, I really hate this unscented. I’m also feeling very sedated like almost. The variables are the same from the previous day, same amount of sleep, same breakfast, same caffinated beverage. Heck even the same cup.

I haven’t noticed anything yet as in terms of effects on others but we will see throughout the day.

This was worn throughout the day by me and I didn’t get any talkative effects at all. I even went out of my way to start conversing with people and try to get more information out but nothing was happening.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/280 "2010-10-22T16:26:43Z")

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Two part report.

Last night:

A314 SBE x3 (one drop was on wrist but I had long sleeves on)  
P75 2.5mcg  
P93 ~5mcg  
P96 30mcg  
P83 30mcg  
P74 15mcg  
P130 25mcg

I’ve been testing something and theorizing if attraction, and progression from certain pheromones that give a kick, then go to comfort/seduction stages. I’ve been trying to read Mystery Method and I was looking into the stages of how attraction works.

Pretty much I had a base of A314 2 out of the three times I was progressing

First test was A314 + MX301, Second was MX395, Third was this mix.

A314 + MX301 was close connection and MX395 had some nice kickers to it in terms of overall attration. I strongly believe that MX301 (Volleyball terms) was the set up, and MX395 was the spike.

I can tell that it is getting to that comfort stage after the attraction stage, but it’s not leading into the friend zone which would be a good thing. I’m just really confused about this entire situation too, on one hand I like to just stay unattached but two its hard not to be human. The feedback I’m getting from others around me who notice are ones that point to mutual attraction on both sides, but I’m always a born skeptic. Part of me is curious (on the research part) if these are working, and a part of me, as just me being me, is curious if I’m attracting such a high caliber woman. Now I’ve attracted them before and I’ve dated some before I’ve just never been in a LTR. I think that’s why this interaction is really doing it for me.

However on the same token, a close friend even told me, that if I’m like that with any other girl I wouldn’t have a problem getting them. Confidence is relative. I was myself and confident with this one because I wasn’t interested in the beggining. I’m trying to find a way to use what I do with her, to girls I’m initially attracted and interested in. But at the same token, she’s managed to attract me, weird how things work.

Second test

A314 2x, TAF 10mcgs

The only thing I noticed today on my drive to work was that my driving was crisp and sharp. I was weaving in and out of lanes with laser like precision. It was weird cause my focus wasn’t sharp but my actions were.

I’m an idiot and should have probably ordered more than 2.5 mcgs but lesson learned.

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**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/281 "2010-10-22T18:28:18Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> Two part report.
> 
> Last night:
> 
> A314 SBE x3 (one drop was on wrist but I had long sleeves on)  
> P75 2.5mcg  
> P93 ~5mcg  
> P96 30mcg  
> P83 30mcg  
> P74 15mcg  
> P130 25mcg
> 
> I’ve been testing something and theorizing if attraction, and progression from certain pheromones that give a kick, then go to comfort/seduction stages. I’ve been trying to read Mystery Method and I was looking into the stages of how attraction works.
> 
> Pretty much I had a base of A314 2 out of the three times I was progressing
> 
> First test was A314 + MX301, Second was MX395, Third was this mix.
> 
> A314 + MX301 was close connection and
> 
> I can tell that it is getting to that comfort stage after the attraction stage, but it’s not leading into the friend zone which would be a good thing. I’m just really confused about this entire situation too, on one hand I like to just stay unattached but two its hard not to be human. The feedback I’m getting from others around me who notice are ones that point to mutual attraction on both sides, but I’m always a born skeptic. Part of me is curious (on the research part) if these are working, and a part of me, as just me being me, is curious if I’m attracting such a high caliber woman. Now I’ve attracted them before and I’ve dated some before I’ve just never been in a LTR. I think that’s why this interaction is really doing it for me.
> 
> However on the same token, a close friend even told me, that if I’m like that with any other girl I wouldn’t have a problem getting them. Confidence is relative. I was myself and confident with this one because I wasn’t interested in the beggining. I’m trying to find a way to use what I do with her, to girls I’m initially attracted and interested in. But at the same token, she’s managed to attract me, weird how things work.
> 
> Second test
> 
> A314 2x, TAF 10mcgs
> 
> The only thing I noticed today on my drive to work was that my driving was crisp and sharp. I was weaving in and out of lanes with laser like precision. It was weird cause my focus wasn’t sharp but my actions were.
> 
> I’m an idiot and should have probably ordered more than 2.5 mcgs but lesson learned.

From the past few times of using it I think TAF is pretty dangerous when it comes to the driving prospect. That does make a lot of sense about the actions yes and the focus no because I kept on making really bad calls on the highway and then the street but I was quick to react to my mistakes. I was scatter brained the whole time. The only thing that seems consistent with TAF is that I have this itch every time I see something that just doesnt look right. Weed on the pavement. Dishes still on the table an hour later. Stuff like that. Its not a guarantee that I act on it but it certainly pulls my attention towards it.

I don’t think TAF at 2.5 is that bad. I think a 5 or a 7.5/spray would have been more preferable but high amounts of TAF seemed likeable by myself at first but then I go back and see the inconsistencies with myself and some perceived OCD on my part lol.

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