# P51Mustang's Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [May 27, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913 "2010-05-27T16:50:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 15

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/282 "2010-10-22T20:03:48Z")

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> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#):
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> From the past few times of using it I think TAF is pretty dangerous when it comes to the driving prospect. That does make a lot of sense about the actions yes and the focus no because I kept on making really bad calls on the highway and then the street but I was quick to react to my mistakes. I was scatter brained the whole time. The only thing that seems consistent with TAF is that I have this itch every time I see something that just doesnt look right. Weed on the pavement. Dishes still on the table an hour later. Stuff like that. Its not a guarantee that I act on it but it certainly pulls my attention towards it.
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> I don’t think TAF at 2.5 is that bad. I think a 5 or a 7.5/spray would have been more preferable but high amounts of TAF seemed likeable by myself at first but then I go back and see the inconsistencies with myself and some perceived OCD on my part lol.

What mcg range did you test at??

I just found it weird, usually when I drive at higher speeds on the highway, I’m on point, on the ball, concentrated. It felt almost like a micro sleep

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/283 "2010-10-22T20:04:24Z")

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Also on a side note.

I really wish they sell some [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/), unscented, awesome stuff.

And for Androstenols, yuck, not a big fan. AT ALL

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/284 "2010-10-22T21:11:58Z")

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Quick report MX386.

A314 latent effects from application around 10 this morning.

TAF shoudl have all been gone it was 5+ hours since applications, and it probably would have helped but I sprayed on 2x of MX386 on the back of my head. This was also a clean application spot.

I’m still not getting any Androstenol like effects on this. I’ll shelve this for now and test the others out.

Edit: I did get a client coming in and having IO like effects, but client is naturally like that. I figure let me just put this in the report just incase.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 7:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/285 "2010-10-24T07:03:31Z")

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Report

MX395 on both sides of the neck. Two sprays total.

I cannot believe the amounts of hits I got tonight with this MX. They were plenty bountiful let me tell you.

I went to a party, and I left out putting the mones on till I got there. I really wanted to compare how it was pre and after. Now I spend time with everyone there to establish a baseline on how they would react. I got like zero hits, and they might have been there but it wasn’t blatant.

Remember also I was completely phero free, showered, no -none residue, NOTHING.

When I put on 2x of MX395, it was like a switch turned on.

I was getting attraction based hits like there was no tomorrow. I wanna put it in this report but seriously, like EVERY single one I encountered were attraction based. I seriously felt like a piece of meat in there. IM A GUY! I should be doing the work to get the women interested but fuck, I could not believe the amount of women hitting on me tonight. I don’t know what it is about this mix, but I want more, and I want it NOW. Guys, I’m not the type to get hit on a lot, but WOW, this was like amazing tonight, I realize the power of mones when it comes to it. I am so happy I established a baseline first and tested it out, cause wow, wow, wow.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/286 "2010-10-25T21:28:56Z")

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AMMO x2 (FF22)  
P96 30mcg  
[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) 30mcg  
TAA 45mcg

I was reading Steve’s report on this and he had some pretty interesting results.

I don’t really get anymore self effects when it comes to putatives and consumer line products anymore cause I’ve been using these for a while.

Went over to a local place I frequent to test out a theory a couple of my friends have pointed out to me, and I wanted to know if by changing phero signatures every once in a while will alter results in either a good way or bad way. I haven’t seen any negative effects of it, mostly positive but I’m upset that I haven’t fully honed my senses to notice what is a genuine hit, and ones of customary “hits”. Its confusing because my logic tells me no, but something inside of me tells me yes. I don’t know how to react that and my only option right now is to stand back.

I kept explaining to my friend that when speaking with that person, I could by the eyes that something is different. Both my friends have told me, its not the same interaction that everyone else gets. They can tell something is different but they can’t explain it. I’m thinking this is genuine real attraction that I’m getting right now, because if it is. P96 definitely had some decent kickers in it. But the problem is I tested with some unknown variables. Which would be MX395. Initial phase that this interaction started was because of P96. It progressed more and more to different mixes but generally most of these have been the socials. I think the first real time that the comfort/cool stage kicked in was when I wore all socials.

This interaction would be so much easier if it were any other girl, but like traditional way I like to do things, I like it more complicated than what it is.

I’ve decided to end the testing and pursue only platonic vibes going forward, I’ve been in enough situations this can turn sour, and I’m not about to go and throw something away just like that.

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**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/287 "2010-10-25T21:41:55Z")

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Mustang I’ll tell you one thing 🙂 don’t nobody test like you. It’s a hard to keep up with your pace because really do alot of testing. :)Is there anything you haven’t tested that you own? You are a serious tester, when was the last time you took a break?

I have thought this more than once: just by following your journal and reading your posts. I have said to myself, "at Mustang’s pace, he’ll reach 5,000 posts easily.🙂

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/288 "2010-10-25T21:47:32Z")

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> [@MVKBUGATTI](#):
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> Mustang I’ll tell you one thing 🙂 don’t nobody test like you. It’s a hard to keep up with your pace because really do alot of testing. :)Is there anything you haven’t tested that you own? You are a serious tester, when was the last time you took a break?
> 
> I have thought this more than once: just by following your journal and reading your posts. I have said to myself, "at Mustang’s pace, he’ll reach 5,000 posts easily.🙂

Thanks MVK

The real testing I do is really with the new MX packs and UF. The rest of the putatives I’ve tested every single one at least once except the ones that haven’t come in yet.

Unfortunately I haven’t found a viable place to test out the Androstenone pack by itself. The Androstenol pack, I’m about halfway through, and I take a break from that every other day, or depends on how my schedule is.

Plus with my busy schedule, I pretty much record anything with putatives or MX here in my Journal so I can refer to them later when I need to make a mix.

The Androstenol pack I can get to testing at work cause I interact with so many people, but the MX’s can really be only on the weekends, but the past few weekends I’ve had to use other mixes because of the results I wanted to get.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/289 "2010-10-25T23:16:26Z")

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I don’t know if I completely caught the jist of that post, but when you have a feeling saying you think its a hit or they are attracted.. trust your gut. You know deep down whether or not its a hit, or if they are digging it. If you got a feeling the target is, I bet you they actually are. Also, by reading your post I just answered a question of my own lol. I am going to practice what I preach as soon as I get a chance (which should be soon if I play my cards right!)

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/290 "2010-10-27T15:14:30Z")

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Today

A314 3 Drops  
MX387 2.5 Sprays

Initial Observations: I got nervous for a second when I sprayed this because it smelled awfully like Androstenone when I put it on my skin. After it settled down it smelled more like the Androstenol that I remember for these test packs. I will report more on this as the day goes by.

There were nol like results today, but the interactions were so few and far between that I couldn’t properly test this.

Might have to do this around a bar just by itself and see how it goes.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 12:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/291 "2010-10-28T12:49:01Z")

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P102 up for todays test

2.5 sprays to the neck approximately 30mcgs.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 1:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/292 "2010-10-28T13:21:11Z")

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You are killing me!!! Slow down. P102 is in MX353 correct? I think I need to add this to my test list. I still need to make MX353

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/293 "2010-10-28T14:23:52Z")

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> [@JosieW](#):
>
> You are killing me!!! Slow down. P102 is in MX353 correct? I think I need to add this to my test list. I still need to make MX353

Yes sir it is.

But so far I need like 2-3 days clean to test this. I always get a phero rush when I try out new putatives and skews my perceptions.

So far though I have a motivation like feeling when it comes down to using P102

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 3:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/294 "2010-10-28T15:23:27Z")

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I have to report and just give every detail because I can’t know what the intended purpose is of an MX.

I had on last night

**A314 x2 (Neck)  
MX394 x2 (Neck)**

For research purposes, MX and A314 application spots did not overlap.

I met up with some friends for some drinks, it was humid for this time and it was around 70ish degrees.

Basic observations.

- Friend of mine was nearing that time of the month, I was wondering why she wasn’t acting the way she normally does. She’s usually very physical when we are around each other but experienced some push effect, based on previous interactions.

- Sillage for this mix was better than I thought. I had an interaction with my other friend who bartends there that was out of the ordinary. For some reason its either I was getting push effect all night, or this was more of a social vibe to it. I’m a little biased because MX395 was so hard hitting but I guess this is why the test packs are the way they are.

That’s about it, no other noticeable differences that wasn’t out of the ordinary

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/295 "2010-10-28T18:01:19Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> Yes sir it is.
> 
> But so far I need like 2-3 days clean to test this. I always get a phero rush when I try out new putatives and skews my perceptions.
> 
> So far though I have a motivation like feeling when it comes down to using P102

How do you know this?

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/296 "2010-10-28T18:04:31Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> How do you know this?

Today turned out pretty crappy, just from the get go. It was a bleek week ahead.

When I was driving into work, I was just getting more and more motivated to let what happened be in the past and keep pushing forward with work today.

As for the phero rush, I get anxiety like feeling in my stomach that I feel can sometimes hinder what self effects I was feeling. I used to have bad anxiety and it brings out the old feelings I had so I just wait it out and get used to the molecule and find out if I feel the same or different. I noted the motivational boost due to that. But again this is the first time that I tried out P102 so it could have just been an anomaly, I tend to just report everything in my Journal now that I experience and sort it out later on.

Or were my observations completely off with what P102 does?

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/297 "2010-10-29T19:50:14Z")

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I went out last night after a loooooooooooong stressful day.

**I wore 2 drops of A314 Rev 25 SBE and 3x of MX301**  
**All applications were on the neck. I applied the MX301 about an hour after the A314.**

**All interactions were about half hour from application of the MX301.**

I was still in a pretty bad mood so I ended up closing my tab after a drink. My friend there asked how come, and just said long day and just came for one and didn’t want to make it a long night, I had a long day tomorrow afterall.

My friend suggested one more even though I was adamant to leave. So we ended up getting one more, my friend “D” served up some shots, great, it’s gonna be a long night, yet again. Something was off with her, someone was making her life hell that night and it was showing. Others couldn’t but I know her so I can tell. Long story short, I backed down on the jokes because I didn’t want to push it, I know how bad it can be.

Further along the night, the other one she works with comes down to our side “E” and just says hello, pleasantries, and off she goes. Tonight was different, she was actually more social. I was shocked at the difference in the responses I got last night wearing SBE compared with A314 with MX301 added on, even after the conversation was dying down, she was still sticking around, which shocked me because she’s usually left and gone by then. Second difference in the night was one of the other servers there, who’s seen us around started conversing with us as well. I personally think that SBE really gives you that open vibe and likability with the respect of A314.

With D it was different, I’ve just accepted it as normal we do our little flirting back and forth over time, and it’s just what it is. I got to the point IDC what people think because it is what it is. If something happens it happens, if no then no, no big deal I got an awesome friend regardles. But I’m guessing that its way apparent to everyone because one of my friends who came by, and this is the 4th one who said something, told me to go for it already. He’s a pretty good judge of body language and its probably like that, some tension and some great fun. Considering the night she was having last night, I was surprised there were any type of hits from her at all.

**Second report**  
**MX387 x3, sides and back of neck.**  
**I’ve mentioned previously that I thought this smelled Androstenone like.**

It was a bit busier at where I’m working today and I’ve tried to go and mingle as much as possible, not being quiet but not being overt in starting conversations. I’ve tried it with people who were doing tasks, and people who weren’t doing tasks. I finally had a great testing opportunity but I still was not getting any Androstenol like effects. Next test would be with a closer group of people where maybe it would show itself. I’m also stick to 30mcgs because that’s what I use as a noticeable base whenever I use IO or IH. I’m determined to keep testing this but right now its pissing me off.

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**Author:** ![Goodguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@Goodguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Goodguy)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/298 "2010-10-29T20:19:15Z")

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Your assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 6:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/299 "2010-10-30T06:31:32Z")

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So tonight

**AMMO x2  
P83 40 mcgs  
P96 30 mcgs  
IS x4**

I’ve been working on this mix, thanks to Steve, the ratio’s were a little off tonight cause I had some spray problems.

Test 1: With D, I keep on testing out what works with her. For some reason I’m still getting that DIHL looks with her. It’s so close, it’s almost like hey, what the heck are we doing and it definitely is something that is there but nothing is happening. D’s going through a lot right now, and it’s probably something that’s not the best to test it out, but she’s still playful and flirty with me. Sometimes, I really wish I can get over the physical differences I have and man up and stop being so dependent on that issue and block myself.

The rest of the night, I was just experiencing some great feelings, I haven’t worn [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) in a while and man, I felt awesome, and it radiated from me and I can tell others were loving the presence that I have. For any of you new users reading this, TRUST me when I tell you that things are just so much better with IS.

I came back to the place I started off the night. The venue I went to wasn’t like what I thought it was, and since some of my friends were working there, I decided to stop by. The biggest hit of the night came with one of the girls there I sorta know. She’s usually quiet and reserved with me, I don’t know if she doesn’t like me or is just quiet in general but when I was there talking to all of them, she came up to me and rubbed the back of my shoulder and was in a party and going out mood. That was TOTALLY unlike her, I’ve never gotten any attraction hits from this girl, and I didn’t think it was either, but that was so out of character with her when it comes to me, I was just shocked when it was happening.

This mix has some great potential, I gotta start using this on dates.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/300 "2010-10-30T19:06:12Z")

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What’s holding YOU up with D? What are YOU doing to escalate? Make a move P51 or she will eventually move… on.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/301 "2010-10-30T21:33:08Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> What’s holding YOU up with D? What are YOU doing to escalate? Make a move P51 or she will eventually move… on.

I tried to get her to come out last week, but the way her work schedule is, she’s been pulling weeks with no days off. I simply asked her if she wanted to grab drinks one night but she was tired and ended up staying in.

I just don’t know how much to ask or just take it as a sign that she’s busy, I haven’t been able to correctly find the right time to get it, that’s part of my lack of experience.

Any input on this Steve on the escalation side would be greatly appreciated.

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