# P51Mustang's Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [May 27, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913 "2010-05-27T16:50:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/442 "2010-12-13T23:27:31Z")
I actually REALLY like this mix with the A314 UFE. I got to meet with a couple of clients today, and I always probe for assets, and I was able to get it so much quicker. Now mind you, I was also out of it today, I was woken early this morning with a family emergency (everything is ok now) and I had work all day, performance review, and other paperwork I had to take care of. The ease of my interactions with my clients today were pretty darn good. I couldn’t believe how much easier it was. Also I don’t know if its an intended side effect, but the mood lifting qualities of UFE seem to be better than the normal A314. Also I was blunt with D today. I reached by deal breaker point with her with what happened last night, I realized I wasn’t going to put up with BS like that. Long story short, she reached out to me, and they were believable extenuating circumstances enough for me to believe her, she apologized and I’m still careful with her but once something like that messes up, then I don’t know anymore. I’m also a believer that what people tell us and what they’re going through can be surprising. The BS at points sometimes pisses me off, but there are plenty of times she made me smile to make it work. Just gotta do a lot of thinking the next couple of days. ---
**Author:** ![dbot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dbot/32/1595_2.png) [@dbot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dbot)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/443 "2010-12-14T02:31:35Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Long story short, she reached out to me, and they were believable extenuating circumstances enough for me to believe her, she apologized and I’m still careful with her but once something like that messes up, then I don’t know anymore. I’m also a believer that what people tell us and what they’re going through can be surprising. The BS at points sometimes pisses me off, but there are plenty of times she made me smile to make it work. Just gotta do a lot of thinking the next couple of days. Diagnosis: Female 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/444 "2010-12-14T03:10:21Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > D is looking to use the hurt puppy jealousy line and wants you to chase her. When you don’t she doesn’t know how to react right so she pushes at it even more. She sounds like she is in need of a guy who will lay it out for her and call her on it. Not hurtful Mr. Mustang, but playfully call her on it and tell her she needs a spanking. She reminds you of your bratty little sister. > > Oh and BTW, I really, really appreciate the linking of my thread. Very nice to see it here 🙂 If I may add to this please sir. I believe that this is the hardest thing for us to do as men. It’s really not until I recently finished David Daeda’s book that I finally started understanding it. Then it really hit home last week when my wife started saying the same things one night almost word for word, I really got it. Women want men that can stand like a stone wall in front of their storm and completely consume them with passion when they are calm. They want men to take on their emotions and handle them with love and humor, not closing them out or punishing them. I’m not saying that you should go mushy and take her crap. I’m saying that you should penetrate her with passion and push through her BS. Show her that her emotional issues don’t scare you and she can’t just run you off. Just keep it intense and humorous. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 6:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/445 "2010-12-14T06:04:03Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > D is looking to use the hurt puppy jealousy line and wants you to chase her. When you don’t she doesn’t know how to react right so she pushes at it even more. She sounds like she is in need of a guy who will lay it out for her and call her on it. Not hurtful Mr. Mustang, but playfully call her on it and tell her she needs a spanking. She reminds you of your bratty little sister. > > Oh and BTW, I really, really appreciate the linking of my thread. Very nice to see it here 🙂 > [@JosieW](#): > > If I may add to this please sir. I believe that this is the hardest thing for us to do as men. It’s really not until I recently finished David Daeda’s book that I finally started understanding it. Then it really hit home last week when my wife started saying the same things one night almost word for word, I really got it. Women want men that can stand like a stone wall in front of their storm and completely consume them with passion when they are calm. They want men to take on their emotions and handle them with love and humor, not closing them out or punishing them. I’m not saying that you should go mushy and take her crap. I’m saying that you should penetrate her with passion and push through her BS. Show her that her emotional issues don’t scare you and she can’t just run you off. Just keep it intense and humorous. Well gentlemen I told her straight out my intentions and what I felt. She told me she didn’t know. She also told me that (I knew) the things she’s going through with her ex. Long story short: Staying friends Told her with the options I had I had to know with her first She was worth the risk Now we’re just going to be friends and let things be the way they are. I can’t even begin to tell you how much disappointment I’m feeling right now. I’m not angry or mad, I just now know. It’s a big blow to me and I can’t front that it isn’t. I know I have to move on and that is that. In the end I’m happy I felt those feelings, even though they weren’t reciprocated, I knew in my heart I did what I felt was the right thing. The disappointment is beyond what I can articulate, but this is life, and this is how things have to be and I’m going to accept that. D will always have a special place for me, it’s been that long that I can see someone and smile and be genuinely happy. I do hope nothing but the best from her, but in life there are winners and losers. This time losing hurt, but knowing in the end she might find what she needs to find, is good enough for me. I want to thank you all for your advice and guidance. I really do appreciate everything. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/446 "2010-12-14T06:19:49Z")
P.S. I’m prolly gonna be a mess for a while. The reports might not be there for a couple of weeks. I just gotta compose myself together and think things through and get back on my feet. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 6:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/447 "2010-12-14T06:52:07Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Well gentlemen I told her straight out my intentions and what I felt. She told me she didn’t know. She also told me that (I knew) the things she’s going through with her ex. > > Long story short: > > Staying friends > Told her with the options I had I had to know with her first > She was worth the risk > Now we’re just going to be friends and let things be the way they are. > > I can’t even begin to tell you how much disappointment I’m feeling right now. I’m not angry or mad, I just now know. It’s a big blow to me and I can’t front that it isn’t. I know I have to move on and that is that. In the end I’m happy I felt those feelings, even though they weren’t reciprocated, I knew in my heart I did what I felt was the right thing. The disappointment is beyond what I can articulate, but this is life, and this is how things have to be and I’m going to accept that. D will always have a special place for me, it’s been that long that I can see someone and smile and be genuinely happy. I do hope nothing but the best from her, but in life there are winners and losers. This time losing hurt, but knowing in the end she might find what she needs to find, is good enough for me. I want to thank you all for your advice and guidance. I really do appreciate everything. Sorry about what happened, man… Although sometimes I may not seem like it, I do care about others. I do not have any ill-feeling or anger toward you. Cheer up and best of luck! ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/448 "2010-12-14T14:57:49Z")
Might as well get back to testing. A314 UFE 2x [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) 15mcg ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/449 "2010-12-14T17:43:10Z")
Mini Report on IS. I was going through some of the stuff in my desk and I saw a to go of IS and decided to spray 4x of this on. Read previous posts you’ll know why I was in a ehh mood. IS definitely brightened my mood up a bit. I was more relaxed and just felt better overall. I actually haven’t used [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) in a while and when I do something similar I use TAA. This is really awesome stuff, I sometimes forget how much I love this stuff. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/450 "2010-12-14T18:21:03Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Well gentlemen I told her straight out my intentions and what I felt. She told me she didn’t know. She also told me that (I knew) the things she’s going through with her ex. > > Long story short: > > Staying friends > Told her with the options I had I had to know with her first > She was worth the risk > Now we’re just going to be friends and let things be the way they are. > > I can’t even begin to tell you how much disappointment I’m feeling right now. I’m not angry or mad, I just now know. It’s a big blow to me and I can’t front that it isn’t. I know I have to move on and that is that. In the end I’m happy I felt those feelings, even though they weren’t reciprocated, I knew in my heart I did what I felt was the right thing. The disappointment is beyond what I can articulate, but this is life, and this is how things have to be and I’m going to accept that. D will always have a special place for me, it’s been that long that I can see someone and smile and be genuinely happy. I do hope nothing but the best from her, but in life there are winners and losers. This time losing hurt, but knowing in the end she might find what she needs to find, is good enough for me. I want to thank you all for your advice and guidance. I really do appreciate everything. So first let me say that it takes a lot of guts to make yourself vulnerable. I’m proud of you for that. Now spray on some [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) and shake it off! No I’m kidding. Honestly I never saw any reports of dates. It’s kind of hard to set something up when there isn’t any intimate time of just one on one. So I have to tell you that you have an opportunity here they you may not see. You have an opportunity to either close down from pain, which I don’t believe you will, or embrace it and open yourself to it. If you keep yourself open and do not flinch, but in fact dive into it then you will be awe inspiring. Most of us like to walk away from things or worse just shutdown. Remain her friend, but don’t back down in passion. Show her that you are still a “man” not some castrated friend. BTW I seriously doubt that your feelings weren’t reciprocated. Your timing just sounds like it’s off. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/451 "2010-12-14T19:30:29Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > So first let me say that it takes a lot of guts to make yourself vulnerable. I’m proud of you for that. Now spray on some P130 and shake it off! No I’m kidding. > > Honestly I never saw any reports of dates. It’s kind of hard to set something up when there isn’t any intimate time of just one on one. So I have to tell you that you have an opportunity here they you may not see. You have an opportunity to either close down from pain, which I don’t believe you will, or embrace it and open yourself to it. If you keep yourself open and do not flinch, but in fact dive into it then you will be awe inspiring. Most of us like to walk away from things or worse just shutdown. Remain her friend, but don’t back down in passion. Show her that you are still a “man” not some castrated friend. > > BTW I seriously doubt that your feelings weren’t reciprocated. Your timing just sounds like it’s off. We definitely didn’t have some 1 on 1 time alone except a couple of occasions. Everyone that did know about my situation, told me they highly doubt there were 0 interest on her end. Coming back to think about it, she didn’t out right say she doesn’t like me. She just told me about her situation. The great thing about it is, she’s cool and I can continue to do what I’ve been doing and still have no qualms about it. What got to me the most was that I have options, but something about her drew me in. Some of the reactions and the hot and cold I was getting from her made me realize she really might like me and that I had to man up and tell her straight out. Unfortunately with this day and age, people know what is going on with our lives regardless (facebook downfall) and I wanted to just clear the air before I proceeded with someone else. I got to know her more than I thought I would and something so innocent as a second look turned into something like this. To me, if she were a pheromone, she would be P130. She reminds me constantly that no matter how bad things can get in your life, you can still smile and have a laugh. Regardless I’m happy I have a friend like that. Last night’s post was probably more dramatic than it should have been, it was just my disappointment pouring through but. Thanks again Josie. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/452 "2010-12-15T20:39:04Z")
I had to go and take a test this morning and I was running a bit late to the test center. I had on A314 r.26 and 15mcg of [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/). As soon as I got in I apologized to the proctor and I figured I would have to get lip but she was very accomodating. Being in a rush, I left most of my stuff in my car and normally I would have had to go back, but she said no it’s ok, most of these were requirements but just took my word at face value. I have to pay out of pocked first for this test cause the billing dept sucks, but anyway, I offered to pay first but she said no don’t worry about it for now. After I finished my test, I hand her my card to process but she said its cash only. Well crap I didn’t bring cash on me. I asked if there were any ATM’s nearby and she pointed me in the right direction. Now remember, I passed the test, and results are sent automatically. I could have easily left, and be done with it (not that I would) but she didn’t even ask me for any collateral or ID to stay there. She seemed to just go out of the way to accomodate me the entire time and to make sure that no feathers were ruffled. As I was leaving, one of the proctors there asked me if I took a test (obviously) I responded with I did, and she mentioned to me how impressed she was at how quickly I took the test given the high percentage I got right. I got like looks of approval as I was leaving the testing center. One of my co workers remarked that I also handle myself very well and he didn’t think him and I were the same age. He said I can tell how the older clients respect me and value my opinion. I’m pretty young and that’s gotta chalk something up for A314 in general. I had them coming into my office and running things by me again, and it works very well in these environments. I really wish AD could produce (consistently) something like this, cause this is frigging awesome all around. Pretty interesting hits with the UFE. ---
**Author:** ![dbot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dbot/32/1595_2.png) [@dbot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dbot)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/453 "2010-12-15T20:52:22Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I had to go and take a test this morning and I was running a bit late to the test center. > > I had on A314 r.26 and 15mcg of P74. … I really wish AD could produce (consistently) something like this, cause this is frigging awesome all around. > > Pretty interesting hits with the UFE. WANT. How do you think the [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) changes its effects? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/454 "2010-12-15T20:55:07Z")
> [@dbot](#): > > WANT. How do you think the P74 changes its effects? Too subtle for me to notice right now. I might go to 22.5mcg’s after a weekend break and see what else happens. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/455 "2010-12-15T21:39:13Z")
[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) = 25mcg (Best Results) ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/456 "2010-12-16T05:51:39Z")
I wore MX395 x3 and 1x of IH4x. I went to meet up with D and G tonight. Prolly wasn’t noticing any hits besides the hair flipping, it was consistently happening all night which is why I thought it was just normal. G sat closest to me and I guess I noticed as I was talking to both of them. I just never thought playing with the hair was such a big IOI or a reaction from mones cause it just seems like women do that all the time. The conversation was friendly nothing overt, I wasn’t flirting with any of them. I’ve relegated myself to just moving on and leaving things be. I got a couple of those looks from D when I was switching back and forth between her and G when I was talking. Now I’m talking just like a friend, not gonna flirt or push something when I know nothing is gonna come from it. I noticed whenever I made eye contact with me she’d hold it, kinda like pucker her lip and bite her lower lip. Then looked down, I hope I didn’t make her feel uncomfortable at all or awkward. It wasn’t overt but I saw it. I figured there was a difference since G didn’t do that with me at all. I never expected it to, but with D it showed itself after a couple of times. I noticed more details with them than I normally do. Possible TAF or P114 in MX395? ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 1:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/457 "2010-12-16T13:50:54Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I wore MX395 x3 and 1x of IH4x. > > I went to meet up with D and G tonight. > > Prolly wasn’t noticing any hits besides the hair flipping, it was consistently happening all night which is why I thought it was just normal. G sat closest to me and I guess I noticed as I was talking to both of them. I just never thought playing with the hair was such a big IOI or a reaction from mones cause it just seems like women do that all the time. > > The conversation was friendly nothing overt, I wasn’t flirting with any of them. I’ve relegated myself to just moving on and leaving things be. I got a couple of those looks from D when I was switching back and forth between her and G when I was talking. Now I’m talking just like a friend, not gonna flirt or push something when I know nothing is gonna come from it. I noticed whenever I made eye contact with me she’d hold it, kinda like pucker her lip and bite her lower lip. Then looked down, I hope I didn’t make her feel uncomfortable at all or awkward. It wasn’t overt but I saw it. I figured there was a difference since G didn’t do that with me at all. I never expected it to, but with D it showed itself after a couple of times. I noticed more details with them than I normally do. Possible TAF or P114 in MX395? Hey I just want to verify that when you are “just being friends” that you aren’t falling into castrated Eunich role. You are still a man. You are still going to look at her as a woman. Right? Anything less than that is unacceptable. There should still be sexual tension between you two, even if nothing ever happens. Why? Because you are a man and she is a woman. She should feel uncomfortable and awkward. That’s what happens when you sit down next to a 900lb gorilla. You feel a little awkward. If you hang out with a tiger you shouldn’t feel too safe. You sir are a man. If a woman comes into your presence, she should feel your presence. Don’t change for them. I’m not saying you should pursue her, because at this point you shouldn’t. I’m saying that she doesn’t get the right to be made to feel comfortable just because her shit isn’t together. Have you read or seen the Twilight series? The books are way better than the movies by the way. Jacob, the wolf kid, makes no apologies for being attracted to Bella, ever. He keeps tension up at all times, even when he is just being playful. He doesn’t back down. He doesn’t ignore his or her feelings. He’s intense in his passion. He is uncontrolled. Be that. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/458 "2010-12-16T15:27:39Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Hey I just want to verify that when you are “just being friends” that you aren’t falling into castrated Eunich role. You are still a man. You are still going to look at her as a woman. Right? Anything less than that is unacceptable. There should still be sexual tension between you two, even if nothing ever happens. Why? Because you are a man and she is a woman. She should feel uncomfortable and awkward. That’s what happens when you sit down next to a 900lb gorilla. You feel a little awkward. If you hang out with a tiger you shouldn’t feel too safe. You sir are a man. If a woman comes into your presence, she should feel your presence. Don’t change for them. I’m not saying you should pursue her, because at this point you shouldn’t. I’m saying that she doesn’t get the right to be made to feel comfortable just because her shit isn’t together. > > Have you read or seen the Twilight series? The books are way better than the movies by the way. Jacob, the wolf kid, makes no apologies for being attracted to Bella, ever. He keeps tension up at all times, even when he is just being playful. He doesn’t back down. He doesn’t ignore his or her feelings. He’s intense in his passion. He is uncontrolled. Be that. No I’m not, absolutely not, I never looked at it that way, I guess once I throw out the notion of any possibilities I throw it in the friend zone and treat them like any normal female friend. Between having a couple of things lined up for next week and just being exhausted from being out all day, I just wasn’t in that frame of mind. I definitely will take that advice, it’s good to get that input from someone who’s been there. Once she knew I was going to pursue my other options (I don’t think she knew I had them) she was different with me. It wasn’t a hassle to hang out with her, it was simple. Either way everytime I see her I’ll make sure to keep your advice in mind. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/459 "2010-12-17T17:24:31Z")
**A314 UFE** 2x **P96** 37.5mcg **BNol** 22.5mcg **Venue:** Dinner; bars **Temps:** 70-80 indoors, low humidity I’ve tested out A314 r.26 in multiple environments and I knew this was going to be the perfect testing opportunity. I was going out to dinner with some friends and it was a more intimate setting because we’ve all been friends for a long time and it’s more like family. I was waiting for a friend of mine so we can save taking the trip of taking two cars. I grabbed a drink and BS’ed with G for a bit while I was waiting for my friend. This girl I know P (gorgeous btw) sits next to me and says “hey xxxx says hi” I turned to her with a shocked look because I don’t know how they knew each other. Secondly how the heck did that friend know that I know P. Anyways she was telling me about how she knows her and that this girl is telling her that we’re great friends, and we hang out all the time, and that we’re really close. Well absolutely not, I can’t stand that person and I don’t even know why she would say that to P. So I blatantly told her, I’m not really friends with them like that. P responded by telling me that she was curious as to why I would hang out with someone (implied trashy in a nice way) like that. P said that I’m always classy and I’m always having fun. She said she couldn’t believe it either cause I’m the type of guy everyone loves (in that place I keep telling you guys about), that doesn’t creep them out, and always is down for having fun. We just kept talking about random stuff until she had to get back to work and that was pretty interesting in the hit department cause well the party and respectable vibe that my mixes I’ve been using seem to be working. It also has to do with the fact that when we’re always there, we have massive amounts of people and we do give that party vibe off. So when my friend got there, we took my car to the place. Her and I always have deeper convos but this one was especially better cause things just flowed, there was no break in the conversation and I know that this is like how I would speak with my friends I’ve known for years. I’ve only known this one for a few months but the depth and interaction of our conversations just seemed to flow better tonight. We got to the restaurant (we were late) and it was just a fun vibe and atmosphere all night. Everyone was having a great time, and out of no where, my best friend, who’s typically out of the ordinary for him, mentioned some good words to everyone. I’ve never really known him to articulate things like that, but it was a nice change of pace. If he reads this he’ll prolly kill me for mentioning him, but whatever, it’s prolly the consistent use of A314 that’s got him like that. I met up with D at the same bar a few hours later, picked up my friend and we started hanging out. The place was a madhouse I felt like I was clubbing in the middle of thursday night. I get there and say hi to D and I got a nice warm welcome, I swear things have been different since I said something. I left for a bit to do some stuff then I came back. When I came back, the better hit of the night came when I was talking to P again. We were talking about random stuff on the weekend but I notice whenever I say bye to girls (that kiss on the cheek) that’s it, P on the way out squeezed my forearm. I wasn’t taking it as anything, but it did strike me enough to notice it. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/460 "2010-12-17T18:42:56Z")
Sounds like a good night. Let me ask you a question. I know you have mentioned that mones may have the ability to uncover hidden feelings in people you already know. Do you feel that way about p96 as well, or do you think p96 may actually create feelings that weren’t there? So sounds like P is giving good IOI’s not so much based on the arm squeeze, but the fact that she was fishing when she talked to you about the other person that knows you. Also sounds like that other person is using you for DHV. I love the social dynamics I read in these journals. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/461 "2010-12-17T20:03:53Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > No I’m not, absolutely not, I never looked at it that way, I guess once I throw out the notion of any possibilities I throw it in the friend zone and treat them like any normal female friend. > > Between having a couple of things lined up for next week and just being exhausted from being out all day, I just wasn’t in that frame of mind. > > I definitely will take that advice, it’s good to get that input from someone who’s been there. > > Once she knew I was going to pursue my other options (I don’t think she knew I had them) she was different with me. It wasn’t a hassle to hang out with her, it was simple. > > Either way everytime I see her I’ll make sure to keep your advice in mind. It was SOLID advice. Glad you agree [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913.md?page=22) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913.md?page=24)