# P51Mustang's Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [May 27, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913 "2010-05-27T16:50:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 31

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/602 "2011-02-06T17:52:40Z")

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Another weekend of testing

Environment indoors and 70-80\* moderate humidity.  
Venue is a bar  
MX392 x2 Sides of neck (1x per side)

I was winging for a friend of mine this weekend and I went ahead and decided to go with MX392 for the night. I’ve had good success with the UF mixes for this specific venue, many of the good results I’ve gotten were from here, it goes back to my theory that these highly sexual mixes manifest their results better when women are under the influence.

There was an ongoing pattern that I noticed with women that were in close proximity to me, they were literally touching me with their body, I know that this place is crowded and that people are packed in, but everyone still has their space, as packed as it may be. It was almost like they were just touching my body with theirs. Also I got opened by a couple of girls there just talking and flirting a little bit with me but they were with a different group of guys that were giving me dirty looks. I’ve been more social now than I have ever been so I can just carry a conversation farther than before, because I was winging for my friend I wasn’t really trying to pick up but rather win the friends over and make everyone look good. That night some girls would just stop where I was and linger around for a little, play with their hair, look around with their girlfriends, and “bump” into my friend and I several times during the time they stopped. Because his target was right in front of us, we couldn’t do anything because we were already engaged in conversation and he’s not the type to try and do that.

We decided to go ahead and leave and bounce around a bit more. Went out locally, decided to go and find females after I picked up another friend of mine. That’s the beauty of living here, you can be anywhere and pick women up, the venues are just like everywhere else, whether you’re in the city of the surrounding areas, its the same crazy party scene and nightlife. Plus more of the women you meet locally live locally, more of the women in the city are sometimes from Jersey and far away places that ONS is sometimes difficult because of that fact. But anyway decided to grab drinks and food at a local place, saw G said what’s up, set up a time to meet up with her the next morning. Moved on to a new location afterwards, my friend we just picked up wanted to check a place out. That place was a sausage fest and busy so we decided to leave. Went to a third venue, some women there and good potential for near end of the night fun. My friend was checked out by this girl so I told him to stay for a sec and see what happens, I positioned him where she can see where he is and as she was walking towards our direction after we stopped to say hi to some people we knew, she had DIHL, I was kinda shocked at the same time cause she was DIHL ME! A little off balance I managed to get a hi and a smile off before I completely blanked out, she smiled shyly and excused herself by us, even my friend was like “ok she definitely was checking you out and not me” which was only really when she came by the cloud that it happened. I don’t know what it could have been because this was 5 hours after application and it could just have been a straight -none hit for all I know, but I wasn’t expecting any results guess wintertime really does slow diffusion a bit.

Following day

MX334

This may have been the closest I can test Radman’s homework assignment with G. More details to follow

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/603 "2011-02-08T16:38:03Z")

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MX387 x2 sides of neck  
Venue: Work

I wanted to go over more putatives this morning and I keep a few in the car. I took out a bunch and it was between P102/P106/MX387. I went ahead with the nol pack since testing I’m testing it in an environment that was different than my initial testing grounds.

Mostly for today I was doing phonecalls to clients and as far as the self effects were concerned, I just kept talking and talking and talking. Normally, in this business, you have to articulate everything and slow down your speech so that things can be said clearly and understood. Don’t know why but I’ve just been blabbing out at a mile a minute.

I also met with some clients and some of the co workers I have and after about 2-3 minutes of exposure, I literally have to walk away from them talking to me cause the conversations won’t stop. The topics are also completely random and have no discernable patterns about them.

Edit:

On a side note, I remember reading about blurting out words cause you wanted to talk due to the Androstenol. It’s a little tough especially since I’m having trouble sitting still, there’s a “get up and move around” feeling I’m getting right now. All factors being equal there is nothing different about today than any of the other days that I’m testing. Also about the smell, I thought it was just me and my sense of smell coming back from being sick that this smelled a bit like Androstenone, I finally went over my Journal again and noticed twice that I did notice that the first time around. From what I can remember MX387 was the one that I thought was made from larger batches instead of the finer and better processed molecules. Does anyone else notice a difference in the scents for the nol test pack?

Edit #2

About 5.5 hours since initial application, no other pheros used. Office temps around 70\* low humidity.

I had a client stop in that just would not stop talking! At all.

That was really uncharacteristic of the client because its usually matter of factly with them. Get in, do business, and leave. I was sitting there talking to him for nearly 45 minutes until I had to tell him I had a business call to make.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/604 "2011-02-08T17:51:22Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> MX387 x2 sides of neck  
> Venue: Work
> 
> I wanted to go over more putatives this morning and I keep a few in the car. I took out a bunch and it was between P102/P106/MX387. I went ahead with the nol pack since testing I’m testing it in an environment that was different than my initial testing grounds.
> 
> Mostly for today I was doing phonecalls to clients and as far as the self effects were concerned, I just kept talking and talking and talking. Normally, in this business, you have to articulate everything and slow down your speech so that things can be said clearly and understood. Don’t know why but I’ve just been blabbing out at a mile a minute.
> 
> I also met with some clients and some of the co workers I have and after about 2-3 minutes of exposure, I literally have to walk away from them talking to me cause the conversations won’t stop. The topics are also completely random and have no discernable patterns about them.
> 
> Edit:
> 
> On a side note, I remember reading about blurting out words cause you wanted to talk due to the Androstenol. It’s a little tough especially since I’m having trouble sitting still, there’s a “get up and move around” feeling I’m getting right now. All factors being equal there is nothing different about today than any of the other days that I’m testing. Also about the smell, I thought it was just me and my sense of smell coming back from being sick that this smelled a bit like Androstenone, I finally went over my Journal again and noticed twice that I did notice that the first time around. From what I can remember MX387 was the one that I thought was made from larger batches instead of the finer and better processed molecules. Does anyone else notice a difference in the scents for the nol test pack?

Yep I notice a difference. I don’t like any of them. 🙂 MX387 seems to be a little easier on the nose for me then the other 3. I think 386 is my least favorite, but I need to try it again. Also, I’m having a hard time believing all of these are nols. If they are, I need to adjust my thinking about how sexual nols can be.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/605 "2011-02-08T18:52:59Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> I don’t know what it could have been because this was 5 hours after application and it could just have been a straight -none hit for all I know, but I wasn’t expecting any results guess wintertime really does slow diffusion a bit.

I didn’t find where you listed the amount of sprays. -None is a heavy molecule that even with excellent diffusion molecules like [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) or FF21 will lay heavy on the skin. I remember reading something by Michael, when I first joined the forum, about how even in hot weather conditions it has a tendency of lasting 8-12 hours.

I think your report though stands as great testament just how amazing mones really work though. Most likely she WAS attracted to your friend when you walked in together. When she approached she became confused and her emotional brain acted on impulse and gave you the DIHL look. It’s probably why she sounded sheepish/shy. While logically when you both walked in she was like mmmm I like other guy. Then when she gets close your sending that attraction signature. What a great hit!

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/606 "2011-02-08T19:06:10Z")

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> [@JosieW](#):
>
> Yep I notice a difference. I don’t like any of them. 🙂 MX387 seems to be a little easier on the nose for me then the other 3. I think 386 is my least favorite, but I need to try it again. Also, I’m having a hard time believing all of these are nols. If they are, I need to adjust my thinking about how sexual nols can be.

If I’m not mistaken JVKohl based his entire SOE on the sexuality of nols, even wrote a book on it.

Nols to me have always been sexual though. If you really get down to the discerning visage of them you get DEEP connection with B-NOL and fun loving, carefree with A-NOL. Both of these characteristics are quite attractive of their-selves. I’ve reported many times the same about TAA and Ishine. You can actually find postings by Michael who has always implied that all pheromones have a unique sexual aspect to them 🙂

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/607 "2011-02-08T19:20:28Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> I didn’t find where you listed the amount of sprays. -None is a heavy molecule that even with excellent diffusion molecules like Neroli or FF21 will lay heavy on the skin. I remember reading something by Michael, when I first joined the forum, about how even in hot weather conditions it has a tendency of lasting 8-12 hours.
> 
> I think your report though stands as great testament just how amazing mones really work though. Most likely she WAS attracted to your friend when you walked in together. When she approached she became confused and her emotional brain acted on impulse and gave you the DIHL look. It’s probably why she sounded sheepish/shy. While logically when you both walked in she was like mmmm I like other guy. Then when she gets close your sending that attraction signature. What a great hit!

Thanks for pointing it out by the way.

I updated the post with the dosage and application points.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/608 "2011-02-08T19:38:55Z")

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Here’s a short report on MX334.  
3x (front and sides of neck)

I went out with G (cue music “dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn”) the other day and was curious to know what PS would do in this situation while I completely showed 0 interest.

Proceeded to just converse normally without flirting. I led the way in doing what we were doing and she agreed on what we were doing. I’ve never really hung out with her outside of that place just her and I, I have before but not just one on one like this time. We were in pretty close proximity the entire time and G didn’t seem to have that fiesty/aggressive look that she normally has. Probably cause we were outside of work and it wasn’t an environment like that at all. She seemed less aggressive personality wise that she normally is. I was taken aback because she’s normally not on the shyer side. She wasn’t shy but for G it was shy, any other girl it would be considered normal.

Moreover after we were done hanging out and about to part ways, she inquired about when we would do it again. I didn’t have to ask her, she just asked me outright. The reason I also held off on the report was that I wanted to gauge her reaction next time I saw her, which when she worked it was already busy but took the time to come around and BS with me for a little. This was the surprising part, I haven’t seen that smiley look from G and I’ve been to that place plenty of times. I’m inclined to think there is a more powerful effect especially with these heavy hitting MX’s along with Radman’s theory.

There are more brewing behind the scenes but I will update as time goes on cause I’m not sure of what to make of things yet.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/609 "2011-02-08T21:26:46Z")

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Your Journal is like a Soap Opera. Seriously…  
We could sit down and write a romance novel with this kind of up and down and twisted plot. I thought G wasn’t available and you weren’t pursuing? Did I skip a page?

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/610 "2011-02-08T21:50:19Z")

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> [@JosieW](#):
>
> Your Journal is like a Soap Opera. Seriously…  
> We could sit down and write a romance novel with this kind of up and down and twisted plot. I thought G wasn’t available and you weren’t pursuing? Did I skip a page?

Well about that.

I thought she was until she let me know she was single, and during those times of asking me what my preferences were, what I liked about girls, just got me thinking.

Now I would never ever hook up with two good friends at the same time behind both their backs, however, if one is flaky and one isn’t, then why not keep things open and let it flow.

I’m not juggling women by any means or definition of the word, which I hope it doesn’t come across that, I’ve just learned to take every opportunity possible and find out what the best out come is. Live it for the day and if things happen they happen. Cause as of right now today, I have no real viable option for a LTR, which at this point I am ready for, so it’s like I’m looking but I’m not. I’m just keeping options to knowing someone better and deciding where to go from there. But as of right now, if D comes along and something happens, then fine, that’s just whenever I have free time and want to go see her then I will. I’ll no longer go out of my way for her. G at least puts up an effort but I don’t have the same level of attraction as I did with D, but she’s still a cool girl (pretty damn attractive too) so I’m not shutting down the idea on that.

More to add on that.

The one I would really consider getting into a relationship with off the bat at this moment is this girl M, and she’s a good girl, girl next door type whileas D and G are more alpha and more of the “fun” type, don’t misconstrue this as being promiscous. M is more someone who has more of that “homely” feel about her. She has her exciting aspects about her and she’s passionate in her own sense. M is as attractive in her own way as D was to me but it’s a different kind of characteristic between those two.

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 12:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/611 "2011-02-09T12:21:17Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> MX334 x3 (sides and front of neck)  
> Venue: Bar  
> Temps 70-75
> 
> Two folded test.
> 
> First test, since I came in with the UF pack to test out on G, I wanted to see what this was going to do. Almost same results, she’s still quiet, but she still hung around where I was for a decent amt of the time. I was only passing time there before I really went out and met up with this girl that I’ve wanted to try and date for a while but have never gotten the opportunity to hang out with.
> 
> We stopped by my other friend’s bar cause we were early, I wanted to linger around and test this out a bit since I know some of the people there. I didn’t notice anything significant like the UF pack. My friend and I got multiple looks, but I couldn’t really attribute that to the MX cause he was wearing about 2x of AMMO so I wasn’t sure if it was that or the MX. But either way my friend gets looked at everywhere he goes anyway so that wasn’t anything really out of the ordinary.
> 
> When I got the text that they were almost there we left that bar and headed downtown but I washed off most of it in the bathroom, I wanted a clean slate to completely test it with her. I made sure I cleaned off the areas more than once and reapplied 3x again and headed off. It was about 20 min before we got there and once we were there that’s when I started to do work.
> 
> M (new letter assignment) is the girlfriend material, awesome girl, cute, and someone you can know that she’s a good girl. She’s not the typical boring type but still not like some of the more “feisty” girls I typically go after. If I could be in a relationship, that would be the happy medium where it would be. Anyways, I’ve hung out with M before and this was unlike the situation that happened the last time. I could definitely tell she was into the interaction a lot more. Her and I practically spent the entire time hanging out and talking she actually left her friends side unlike last time. As the night progressed she kept getting closer and closer, and I was trying to escalate kino, which I got decently far but again, this wasn’t the typical girl I go after, it stopped at a certain point, but with her, I got a heck of a lot farther than I did the last time. There was a wall and a gate up then, not I actually got to walk into the front yard and the foyer of the house. I know it may not seem like a lot when it comes to what most of the stories here come out, but with her, that was a pretty significant hit.
> 
> As for observations for self effects.
> 
> I had P86 like effects with this mix. It may have affected me a lot more since I was lacking sleep but when I was at the first place. G just looked a heck of a lot more attractive to me, I don’t know what it is but I could just notice details about her that were just ridiculously attractive. I noticed the same at the other venues with other women that were there, and I couldn’t help myself just be like wow, she really looks good.
> 
> There is something in here in the terms of self effects and Catlord is a frigging genius because I haven’t felt those type of effects unless I used P86, and with P86 those kinds of feelings were there, but I was less inclined to act on it. I also felt some P83ish feelings rearing their head at random times of the night.
> 
> I’m not saying these molecules are in there, cause obviously I don’t but those are the self effects and observations that I observed that can relate to my experiences that night.
> 
> I gotta say though, this has a more passionate side to this that just raw sexual urges. When you wear this, it gives you more instinctual motivation to get things going when it comes with women. As opposed to MX353, Project UF, the self effects on myself weren’t there even though the P83/86 combo was in there and this led to me actually acting. It was easier for me to try rather than to go through “procedure” to escalate the interaction. This felt so much smoother and natural that I can foresee that if I ever take it to the next level with someone with multiple exposures of this, then it can be some kind of experience.
> 
> Anyways thats my report for the night, I’m going to go scour the lounge for some MX334

Sounds like P81, focus, amplified my animal/sexually perception and has cold/cool self-effects. Add P86, None + other mones, it sounds like your report…

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/612 "2011-02-09T15:52:36Z")

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**Warning! Warning! Warning!**

* * *

This is going to be one of Mustang’s rants. There will be no pheromone related content in here except the fact that I have MX387 on again today.

I don’t know what it is lately, and I’m not just talking about the forum, mainly this is what I’ve noticed outside of here and I just needed an outlet to let it out. I notice more and more now that people just have that aura of being a “poser” “fake” about them. Sometimes I just wanna tell them “hey everyone can see through your cherade, cut the crap”. What gets me the most are the ones that give themselves these dumbass titles “I’m so hot stop sweatin’ me” “Don’t jock my style”. Other dumb crap that really gets to me now. I know, don’t let these little things bother you, it’s not your concern. But the older I get, the more I realize that these people I grew up knowing just won’t get out of the rut and will stay this way and love to dwell on petty crap that don’t even matter. I hate to say it but these people are going absolutely nowhere in life and they’re dragging people down with them. I almost wanna tell them, “get your shit together, and stop settling for mediocrity”.

I don’t know what it is lately, but I’m just irritated (no I don’t need to go get laid) and just shit that never used to bother me is pissing me off. I do have my happy and fun times, I’m not always miserable or cranky but there are times where I would normally brush it off and now it just irks me and with some of these people, it’s to the point I don’t want to have anything to do with them ever again.

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/613 "2011-02-09T17:08:05Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> **Warning! Warning! Warning!**
> 
> * * *
> 
> This is going to be one of Mustang’s rants. There will be no pheromone related content in here except the fact that I have MX387 on again today.
> 
> I don’t know what it is lately, and I’m not just talking about the forum, mainly this is what I’ve noticed outside of here and I just needed an outlet to let it out. I notice more and more now that people just have that aura of being a “poser” “fake” about them. Sometimes I just wanna tell them “hey everyone can see through your cherade, cut the crap”. What gets me the most are the ones that give themselves these dumbass titles “I’m so hot stop sweatin’ me” “Don’t jock my style”. Other dumb crap that really gets to me now. I know, don’t let these little things bother you, it’s not your concern. But the older I get, the more I realize that these people I grew up knowing just won’t get out of the rut and will stay this way and love to dwell on petty crap that don’t even matter. I hate to say it but these people are going absolutely nowhere in life and they’re dragging people down with them. I almost wanna tell them, “get your shit together, and stop settling for mediocrity”.
> 
> I don’t know what it is lately, but I’m just irritated (no I don’t need to go get laid) and just shit that never used to bother me is pissing me off. I do have my happy and fun times, I’m not always miserable or cranky but there are times where I would normally brush it off and now it just irks me and with some of these people, it’s to the point I don’t want to have anything to do with them ever again.

Sounds like some “Catcher in the Rye” sort of stuff. I need to get laid can you find me a female to facilitate that? 😃 Some people hate the “rat race” that many of us fall into but thats all they know and they figure if it aint completely broke dont try and fix it even though we all know there are green pastures out there to be had.

I’m guessing your talking about friends here and not just strangers. Everyone needs their form of realization to get out of the rut. I’m still digging my way out myself but my resiliency is waning and I dont know what exactly to do.

I think you going to have to exit the crossroads and pick a path that brings the best of both worlds together.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/614 "2011-02-09T18:44:31Z")

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When you start thinking that way about those that are closest to you, you are mentally giving yourself approval to make the change and leave those friends behind. It happens, especially as we get older. We look back at those same friends we grew up with and made promises we would never stop being friends. The good news is you don’t have to stop being friends, but you are now allowing yourself to move on without them. It’s a normal cycle of growth my friend. There’s nothing confounding about it. Always remember that you are, who you are surrounded by. Look around, do you like what you see? Obviously not much. It’s time to make the jump ahead.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/615 "2011-02-09T18:47:22Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> Well about that.
> 
> I thought she was until she let me know she was single, and during those times of asking me what my preferences were, what I liked about girls, just got me thinking.
> 
> Now I would never ever hook up with two good friends at the same time behind both their backs, however, if one is flaky and one isn’t, then why not keep things open and let it flow.
> 
> I’m not juggling women by any means or definition of the word, which I hope it doesn’t come across that, I’ve just learned to take every opportunity possible and find out what the best out come is. Live it for the day and if things happen they happen. Cause as of right now today, I have no real viable option for a LTR, which at this point I am ready for, so it’s like I’m looking but I’m not. I’m just keeping options to knowing someone better and deciding where to go from there. But as of right now, if D comes along and something happens, then fine, that’s just whenever I have free time and want to go see her then I will. I’ll no longer go out of my way for her. G at least puts up an effort but I don’t have the same level of attraction as I did with D, but she’s still a cool girl (pretty damn attractive too) so I’m not shutting down the idea on that.
> 
> More to add on that.
> 
> The one I would really consider getting into a relationship with off the bat at this moment is this girl M, and she’s a good girl, girl next door type whileas D and G are more alpha and more of the “fun” type, don’t misconstrue this as being promiscous. M is more someone who has more of that “homely” feel about her. She has her exciting aspects about her and she’s passionate in her own sense. M is as attractive in her own way as D was to me but it’s a different kind of characteristic between those two.

I know you aren’t juggling women. I seriously did miss an entire page of your journal. Things just seem to have moved faster than I thought. I missed M all together. Sounds like G was qualifying herself. That’s kind of cool. So seriously we are going to write a book ok?

The thing about LTR’s is sometimes you end up in them and don’t even know how it happened. Just keep meeting people. Thanks for updating me.

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> [@Steve](#):
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> When you start thinking that way about those that are closest to you, you are mentally giving yourself approval to make the change and leave those friends behind. It happens, especially as we get older. We look back at those same friends we grew up with and made promises we would never stop being friends. The good news is you don’t have to stop being friends, but you are now allowing yourself to move on without them. It’s a normal cycle of growth my friend. There’s nothing confounding about it. Always remember that you are, who you are surrounded by. Look around, do you like what you see? Obviously not much. It’s time to make the jump ahead.

There is a saying that I heard once. I love it. “Some people are bricks and some are scaffolding”. You need the scaffolding. They help you through phases of life. They are good people, but sometimes they just don’t last or worse they make the building look bad. 🙂 Bricks are people that stick around forever. The problem is you don’t know which is which, because they all look like people. So you have to treat them all like bricks until they announce themselves as scaffolding.

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> [@JosieW](#):
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> I know you aren’t juggling women. I seriously did miss an entire page of your journal. Things just seem to have moved faster than I thought. I missed M all together. Sounds like G was qualifying herself. That’s kind of cool. So seriously we are going to write a book ok?
> 
> The thing about LTR’s is sometimes you end up in them and don’t even know how it happened. Just keep meeting people. Thanks for updating me.

The book sounds good. There have been some funny and interesting times in recent memory.

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I get inspirations to test out molecules time and again thanks to the forum.

I went out and tested [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) the other night at 5mcgs to the side of the neck.

Went to go with some friends for drinks but I arrived earlier than everyone else so I plopped myself down and ordered a drink. I was in the middle of having a text convo with a friend of mine so I was preoccupied with it till G shows up. She wasn’t there when I got there and ordered and I saw someone standing in front of me and we started talking a bit. We were just going over random things and she stuck around for the most part the entire night. I did notice a little about G that she lingers by me more often than the past and I realized dilation while I was there, the hair flipping and playing with it seems normal with her and I don’t consider it an IOI cause I see her doing it everytime.

I know someone else there, S, and she just came by more often than she normally has in a while. She actually sat with me time on again. S is flirty with a bubbly personality, its not like D’s personality as much as S shows her young age when she talks and interacts with me. There was a point where I was mid convo with S and G gets into it, it wasn’t rude but she made her presence known while I was talking to S. I tried not to flirt with her cause I know how G can get and I wouldn’t want to mess something up there just incase. G and I set up plans so I didn’t want that to impede anything. But throughout the night it was back and forth with S coming by and G talking to me. I really didn’t expect this to happen that night and I give that comfort non-creepy vibe with those girls there so I don’t know about what the effects were. More of this has been cumulative, also with G she’s actually getting involved in things I do, which is more than I can say with D but what the heck, I’m just going with it for now.

As for self effects, I was more laid back and comfortable. It was almost like suave calm relaxed feeling. Comfort in my own skin and not caring what anyone thought. I might have to start wearing this solo soon whenever I go out and trying out just for the self effects when I’m going out.

Personal note: I haven’t gotten enough IOI’s from G to actually pursue anything but if in time we hang out more and more, we’ll see how it goes.

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How high of mcgs have you tested your p75? What mcg do u have it at?

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> [@jessejester](#):
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> How high of mcgs have you tested your p75? What mcg do u have it at?

7.5mcg at the highest.

I have a 5mcg/spray to go from a test pack and I also have a 30ml 2.5mcg/spray

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> 7.5mcg at the highest.
> 
> I have a 5mcg/spray to go from a test pack and I also have a 30ml 2.5mcg/spray

Well…I encourage you to take a different approach to your p75 testing. As in…try wearing your [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) around 30mcgs. I know its recommended by everyone to keep it low but you might be surprised what you see at that mcg. Wearing around 10mcgs of anol, 10mcgs of erone, and a small amount of -none(2.5mcg) with it will help. Sorry to be vauge, but I have found that over the years its the best way to make suggestions without leading people to what they may see. I have seen so much regurgitated crap over and over again. This is the best way I know to make a mix suggestion without leading to the outcome. Please give it a try and let us know what you see. I have enjayed reading through your journal.

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