# P51Mustang's Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [May 27, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913 "2010-05-27T16:50:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 35

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/682 "2011-03-08T23:38:54Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> I’ve been attempting to respond to this post for about 3 hours but the phones are ringing off the hook. I would say its not what you think that is the off-putting vibe. IMHO its the P93 and the amount you are wearing. Cut it down to 1/4 to a 1/3 at most.
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> It can have a very off-putting effect. Two things happen with high-none concentrate and P93: Gay vibe or you push people the heck away.
> 
> Just to confirm though this is what you were wearing with MX301? WOW 🙂

I had two applications.

It was because I went out earlier during the night and I had that test mix for effects, but like 4-5 hours later I was still going strong in different venues. I keep MX301 in my car cause I like to have it on the go as needed and it’s the most versatile product I have. Figured it was worth mentioning since I wore both products in close succession to each other.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/683 "2011-03-09T00:02:47Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> I had two applications.
> 
> It was because I went out earlier during the night and I had that test mix for effects, but like 4-5 hours later I was still going strong in different venues. I keep MX301 in my car cause I like to have it on the go as needed and it’s the most versatile product I have. Figured it was worth mentioning since I wore both products in close succession to each other.

Which only confirms my suspicions. [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) to high 🙂

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 6:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/684 "2011-03-09T06:35:58Z")

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Hmm I just read over my Journal the past hour or so.

If anyone wants to test out this mix

A314 (pick a version)  
TUTH 1-2x  
P96 30mcg  
P86 20mcg  
P83 10mcg  
BNol 15mcg  
[P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) 2.5mcg

Also a possibly interesting mix

IG  
P75  
P96  
TUTH

I wanted to document this here and leave it to some people to test out.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 2:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/685 "2011-03-09T14:19:31Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> Hmm I just read over my Journal the past hour or so.
> 
> If anyone wants to test out this mix
> 
> A314 (pick a version)  
> TUTH 1-2x  
> P96 30mcg  
> P86 20mcg  
> P83 10mcg  
> BNol 15mcg  
> P75 2.5mcg
> 
> Also a possibly interesting mix
> 
> IG  
> P75  
> P96  
> TUTH
> 
> I wanted to document this here and leave it to some people to test out.

I would love to try it, but I don’t have the putatives anymore. ☹  
If p96 and p86 ever come back in stock, I will probably buy all of it. P86 is one I’ve been wanting to test for a while. I found some airbrushing effects in p96 at high doses, but I want to see what you guys have been getting with p86. I really want p75 to come back. I thought it would be easily replaced when I sold my neroli version. I wouldn’t have sold it if I had realized it would be out this long.

I’m about to place an order for [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), bnol, TAC, and none

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 2:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/686 "2011-03-09T14:31:55Z")

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> [@JosieW](#):
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> I would love to try it, but I don’t have the putatives anymore. ☹  
> If p96 and p86 ever come back in stock, I will probably buy all of it. P86 is one I’ve been wanting to test for a while. I found some airbrushing effects in p96 at high doses, but I want to see what you guys have been getting with p86. I really want p75 to come back. I thought it would be easily replaced when I sold my neroli version. I wouldn’t have sold it if I had realized it would be out this long.
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> I’m about to place an order for P74, bnol, TAC, and none

I’ve seen the airbrush effect with P86 as low as 20mcg, however, I’ve paired it 1:1 with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) most of the time. By my estimations 25-30 mcg ideal enough.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/687 "2011-03-09T17:38:28Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> I’ve seen the airbrush effect with P86 as low as 20mcg, however, I’ve paired it 1:1 with P86 most of the time. By my estimations 25-30 mcg ideal enough.

Please clarify. You said P86 twice.

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**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/688 "2011-03-09T17:39:17Z")

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> [@JosieW](#):
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> Please clarify. You said P86 twice.

Im sure he means [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) 🙂

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/689 "2011-03-09T17:44:06Z")

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Some more Putative Testing

**Pheromone:** PX.2 31.25mcg, reapplication 12.5mcg totalling 43.75mcg for entire day  
**PX.2 is P97**  
**Venue:** Work  
**Temps:** Low 70’s low humidity  
**Application Points:** Sides of neck, front throat 1x (12.5mcg) per side, one side .5x (~6.25mcg).

Sprays 2.5x (32.5mcg) from a 12.5mcg bottle two both sides of the neck.

Repplied later 1x (12.5mcg) front of neck approximately 2 hours after initial application.

I had another interview with the other company this morning, it was last minute. I didn’t put any A314 on because I was testing out the putative by itself and I didn’t want to hinder any of the results.

My meeting was in an enclosed room and the conversation with the two people I would be working with were very good, it flowed very smoothly, I was again sold on the concept and the brand and trying to iron out the final details. Moreover, I was more blunt about my concerns regarding switching over, I wasn’t sure how it was going to work and how the financials would work. Overall though I liked the way that the meeting went and it was just what I expected out of the previous ones, I’ve been more iritated today and my patience is lacking with people’s stupidity.

The effects have calmed down a bit when it came to self effects. However, I noticed that I kept being talked to/bugged by my other co workers here. One was following me around while I was clearly busy doing something else, and the other just kept on talk and talking. I did also realize when certain customers came in with problems, I am one of the few males in here and once I stepped up and explained to them the reasoning why certain things are being done, they backed down and stopped. I wasn’t agrressive but more of a politician.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/690 "2011-03-09T18:09:33Z")

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Yep OA was correctamundo

It was P83

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/691 "2011-03-09T19:48:41Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> IMHO its the P93 and the amount you are wearing. Cut it down to 1/4 to a 1/3 at most.
> 
> It can have a very off-putting effect. Two things happen with high-none concentrate and P93: Gay vibe or you push people the heck away.

This is why I personally dislike [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/). Never touch the stuff outside of the ICM mixes. I don’t get the gay vibe but it definitely pushes people away, and at high doses the self effects are almost depressing for me.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/692 "2011-03-09T20:26:39Z")

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> [@Maidenfan01](#):
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> This is why I personally dislike P93. Never touch the stuff outside of the ICM mixes. I don’t get the gay vibe but it definitely pushes people away, and at high doses the self effects are almost depressing for me.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BLONDES! o\_O!

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/693 "2011-03-09T21:22:24Z")

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See I’m in agreement. I have used p93 in ICM, but you cannot convince me that it’s useful at any doses over like 5mcgs. I never got hits with it when I tested it by itself. If I did get any security or bonding hits, they were any different from what I normally see. In fact I’m going to play around with the ICM formula based on my enlightened understanding from Steve without using [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/), and subbing some other molecules.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/694 "2011-03-09T22:40:10Z")

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The more I have tested [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) by itself I always thought it was high-value/high-status but now I’m in the flamboyant camp in my thinking about it.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/695 "2011-03-10T00:48:50Z")

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> [@JosieW](#):
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> See I’m in agreement. I have used p93 in ICM, but you cannot convince me that it’s useful at any doses over like 5mcgs. I never got hits with it when I tested it by itself. If I did get any security or bonding hits, they were any different from what I normally see. In fact I’m going to play around with the ICM formula based on my enlightened understanding from Steve without using P93, and subbing some other molecules.

Try replacing it with P91 if you have it. I would have done it already but I am missing some of the other components to make ICM. I have a good hunch it would be golden.

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/696 "2011-03-10T01:08:43Z")

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P91 seem to have great potentials. I will make sure to give this molecule some testing soon!

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/697 "2011-03-10T16:25:47Z")

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**Pheromone:** PX.2 25mcg  
**PX.2 is P97**  
**Venue:** Work  
**Temps:** Low 70’s low humidity  
**Application Points:** Sides of neck 1x (12.5mcg) per side.

**Self Effects:** During my drive into work it felt like I was settled into my seat. I was in a state of “centeredness” and relaxed. Because I take this drive in to work on a daily basis, I was less aggressive in terms of internal thoughts about getting to work, I felt like I could take my time with whatever it needed. My sense of urgency wasn’t there to get there quick, but yet I was still driving fast and agressive like I normally do. It was like an emotional step back but I’m not stepping back physically. Also I don’t know what it is, but I just blurt out what’s on my mind. Stupidity of people and the nonesense answers they were giving I was just calling them out on, I didn’t care what they thought and I put a firm foot down when they were getting out of line. I normally would have just let it go but why this putative really gets me riled up I don’t know.

**Effects on others:** Like how these effects have been yesterday, I had people constantly just trying to talk to me and invade my personal space. At one of the morning meetings today, it was like everyone was centered around me and and just got plain out close.

If anything else happens I will update on this Journal, I like to keep the raw data coming out so it’s possible for future interpretation when I piece things together at different dosages and uses.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/698 "2011-03-10T19:17:22Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> **Pheromone:** PX.2 25mcg  
> **Venue:** Work  
> **Temps:** Low 70’s low humidity  
> **Application Points:** Sides of neck 1x (12.5mcg) per side.
> 
> **Self Effects:** During my drive into work it felt like I was settled into my seat. I was in a state of “centeredness” and relaxed. Because I take this drive in to work on a daily basis, I was less aggressive in terms of internal thoughts about getting to work, I felt like I could take my time with whatever it needed. My sense of urgency wasn’t there to get there quick, but yet I was still driving fast and agressive like I normally do. It was like an emotional step back but I’m not stepping back physically. Also I don’t know what it is, but I just blurt out what’s on my mind. Stupidity of people and the nonesense answers they were giving I was just calling them out on, I didn’t care what they thought and I put a firm foot down when they were getting out of line. I normally would have just let it go but why this putative really gets me riled up I don’t know.
> 
> **Effects on others:** Like how these effects have been yesterday, I had people constantly just trying to talk to me and invade my personal space. At one of the morning meetings today, it was like everyone was centered around me and and just got plain out close.
> 
> If anything else happens I will update on this Journal, I like to keep the raw data coming out so it’s possible for future interpretation when I piece things together at different dosages and uses.

Can we take bets on what the putative is? 🙂

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/699 "2011-03-10T19:26:20Z")

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> [@JosieW](#):
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> Can we take bets on what the putative is? 🙂

There’s only three that it could be P115, P97 and P85

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/700 "2011-03-10T19:44:34Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> There’s only three that it could be P115, P97 and P85

Hmm… I’m betting on P97. 🙂

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/701 "2011-03-10T20:55:22Z")

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On the good news

They’re putting together an offer for me at one position (management). Means I got the job, just ironing out the details.

Second place I’ve been interviewing for, offered me a position and now its just decision time!

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