# P51Mustang's Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [May 27, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913 "2010-05-27T16:50:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1082 "2011-08-09T16:49:58Z")
Over and over again these products surprise the heck out of me when I least expect it. I used 3 drops of A314, which for the most part is normal for me, for work today. When I’m not testing putatives, then I have this on. Because of what’s been going on in the markets lately, I’ve opted for the tried and tested products to help get me through client meetings. As I was standing with some co workers, I had someone that was looking for help come up to me and asked if they can see me and sit down. Typically, no one comes in off the street to see me, my job doesn’t involved the normal things clients come in for, I’m typically by appointment only. So anyway as they sit, they explain to me concerns that only a manager could handle, politely, I told them I wasn’t the manager but I would get them to that specific area. They were shocked that I was not the manager and it led them to thinkI was since I was the only other one in this place that has a VP title. I looked at it afterwards and realized that the rest of the staff, who weren’t my subordinates, were in a semi circle around me while I was talking. I didn’t really take note until I reviewed what happened prior to that client coming in. Subconsciously you take on a leader vibe with A314 and figure why the client thought I was in charge. I had another appointment that came in that I knew was going to be tough. Long story short, they told me they came in initially to cancel a business deal, but ended up keeping it and looking for more business in the future going forward. Awesome stuff right here. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1083 "2011-08-09T18:41:13Z")
I’ll notify the accountant to expect an extra payment 🙂. Isn’t it funny the initial shock of one hundred and nine smackers right up until you start using it and notice how much money you make off it and just how much stuff you get for free. I love the stuff. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1084 "2011-08-10T16:23:10Z")
So yea I tested out the accidental pairing I had of MX301 and [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) again last night. The main things that I noticed last night was conversations were holding longer, the attraction ramps up exponentially as time goes by. Imagine a truck going from 0-60, it’ll take a while but when you get it moving, it’s very hard to stop. I was using 6x strength of MX301 with 5mcg of P75 all on the forearms. This has worked very well for me in the few times I’ve tested it. I’m getting more and more of a close connection when I’m wearing this mix. Kino escalation ramps up with prolonged exposure. I’ve just been shaking my head lately at how some 180\* turnarounds have been with some of the women I’ve interacted with. Attraction that hasn’t been obvertly shown has shown up and become more pronounced lately. I don’t completely understand why it is “rearing” it’s head right now but it proved a lot of what my intuitions were. I’m getting more of the original attraction I’ve been used to and it’s starting to also notice that with MX301 sometimes 3x is fine and sometimes 6x works better. It just reiterated what Steve was talking about on the webcast that sometimes your body chem changes and your sweet spots are all skewed and this is why you need to keep an open mind about what actually happens with the mones and not what is reported. But back to what I was saying, when I was less active in my physical activities, I needed more -none in my mixes to get the same effect I was used to, once I started ramping up resistance training, then that’s when I needed less. It was aweful cause I ended up ghosting or no effecfts because of those swings, which is why I believe users should extensively test different dosage rangers. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1085 "2011-08-10T22:13:41Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > So yea I tested out the accidental pairing I had of MX301 and P75 again last night. > > The main things that I noticed last night was conversations were holding longer, the attraction ramps up exponentially as time goes by. Imagine a truck going from 0-60, it’ll take a while but when you get it moving, it’s very hard to stop. I was using 6x strength of MX301 with 5mcg of P75 all on the forearms. This has worked very well for me in the few times I’ve tested it. > > I’m getting more and more of a close connection when I’m wearing this mix. Kino escalation ramps up with prolonged exposure. I’ve just been shaking my head lately at how some 180\* turnarounds have been with some of the women I’ve interacted with. Attraction that hasn’t been obvertly shown has shown up and become more pronounced lately. I don’t completely understand why it is “rearing” it’s head right now but it proved a lot of what my intuitions were. > > I’m getting more of the original attraction I’ve been used to and it’s starting to also notice that with MX301 sometimes 3x is fine and sometimes 6x works better. It just reiterated what Steve was talking about on the webcast that sometimes your body chem changes and your sweet spots are all skewed and this is why you need to keep an open mind about what actually happens with the mones and not what is reported. But back to what I was saying, when I was less active in my physical activities, I needed more -none in my mixes to get the same effect I was used to, once I started ramping up resistance training, then that’s when I needed less. It was aweful cause I ended up ghosting or no effecfts because of those swings, which is why I believe users should extensively test different dosage rangers. Is 6 x strength = 6 sprays original? I know what you mean, I have with 5mcg and some hours later the same effects, complete space reducing, kino and many women sit in the bus close to me for example. But the thing is, I don’t think the effects are real, more unreal because the effects are more like a magnet. There is no depth, but with the right molecules… ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1086 "2011-08-11T00:34:37Z")
> [@JohnnyHard](#): > > Is 6 x strength = 6 sprays original? > > I know what you mean, I have with 5mcg and some hours later the same effects, complete space reducing, kino and many women sit in the bus close to me for example. But the thing is, I don’t think the effects are real, more unreal because the effects are more like a magnet. There is no depth, but with the right molecules… Yeah I got a 3x strength/spray and 6x from the original formula ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1087 "2011-08-11T22:06:13Z")
I tested out ICM 2.0 at 4 sprays this time around, I initially applied 3x on the neck and split between the forearms. I think that the diffusion was lacking a little when I was only applying on the forearms for the majority of the sprays. I then sprayed one to the throat before I went to a second venue. I noticed that I was more up front of being the “man” type, going for what I want, flirting without any reservations, and it was more direct in the way I was there were several incidents that I just made eye contact and the reaction I was getting was almost like a doe eyed look, almost like a slow burn effect. I noticed that with someone that I’m on a precipice with in terms of escalation. I thought it was dead but apparently it wasn’t. Coming around to the second venue I had way better results that I did at the other place, this one was more conducive to the women acting on the impulses with the sig. It really shocked me what was the amount of kino involved, it was just a buncha inappropriate things that were going on I’ve had these types of reaction from them before but like what Steve said, the M3 Model works with this perfectly. If I wanted to hook up with one, it woulda been a sloppy mess and I wouldn’t have been interested anyway. I also had a friend start grinding up on me, now we’re completely friends and it took a few seconds for her to realize what she was doing and stopped. Another one was a heck of a lot more affectionate in terms of close physical contact, more than friendly contact, I was just stading there till I felt someone hug me from behind, and lo and behold it was her. The rest of the night was filled with close to borderline situational inappropriate behavior, and I noticed that with a lot of the women there that I underacted with. Man I love this stuff. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1088 "2011-08-11T22:35:01Z")
I also forgot to write this report. I’ve been noticing slight irritation, nothing like a -none type of irritation when it comes to wearing P91 at around 25mcg’s. I didn’t notice anything different with my co workers either. How have these molecules affected you guys in social situations? I’m trying to put together what the uses of this could be but it’s still slightly complicated. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1089 "2011-08-12T02:09:34Z")
I’m probably not going to remember this tomorrow. IG x2 forearms [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) 5mcg Forearms IJ x1 Forearms ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1090 "2011-08-13T08:45:12Z")
So the following report is from the previous mix. I’ve gotten used to just going out and forgetting what I put on that I was just shocked at how effective it was. I’ve had this ongoing theory, for those of you who have read my Journal, that alpha girls react so much better to the more masculine and aggresive mixes. Well this was evident, the most alpha girls I know responded well to it, they essentially was trying to get attention. My interaction with FD1 has been good, we flirt and banter back and forth, but tonight, it went from light verbal judo to physical contact to the point my friends and her friends asked “when are you two going to fuck” that it got that intense. You can tell that the reactions with her was just, if we had sex, it would be that rough, animalistic type of sex that comes along with a slow burn mix. I love it, it works well and you can’t get better than this. I’ve tried this with shyer girls and it’s a lot tougher, the ghosting effect is really there, and if you catch a girl at the wrong time of the month, she will rip your head off, so be very careful, even with the IG it’s a very volatile mix. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 8:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1091 "2011-08-14T08:05:10Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > So the following report is from the previous mix. > > I’ve gotten used to just going out and forgetting what I put on that I was just shocked at how effective it was. **I’ve had this ongoing theory, for those of you who have read my Journal, that alpha girls react so much better to the more masculine and aggresive mixes.** > > Well this was evident, the most alpha girls I know responded well to it, they essentially was trying to get attention. > > My interaction with FD1 has been good, we flirt and banter back and forth, but tonight, it went from light verbal judo to physical contact to the point my friends and her friends asked **“when are you two going to fuck” that it got that intense.** You can tell that the reactions with her was just, if we had sex, it would be that rough, animalistic type of sex that comes along with a slow burn mix. I love it, it works well and you can’t get better than this. > > I’ve tried this with shyer girls and it’s a lot tougher, the ghosting effect is really there, **and if you catch a girl at the wrong time of the month, she will rip your head off, so be very careful,** even with the IG it’s a very volatile mix. I 100% agree. An alpha girl doesn’t want to be the decision maker or caretaker for a weaker willed male (or anyone, for that matter). A domineering girl (with issues) wants to be momma to a guy and ‘manage’ him. As you all have worked out by now, confidence is the majority any equation. I don’t mean that a alpha girl wants someone to dominate her; she wants to feel confident that all parties can look after themselves and that her guy is a confident male - who behaves like a confident male - is there for all things. Including the occasional leaning post when life gets a little intense. Won’t go on about that. You know what I’m saying - just confirming your theory. 😃 I hope you do get to fuck - if that’s what you want. 😛 LOL 😃 Maybe an emergency TOGO! of [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/)?? 😮😉 ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 12:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1092 "2011-08-14T12:17:36Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I’ve had this ongoing theory, for those of you who have read my Journal, that alpha girls react so much better to the more masculine and aggresive mixes. . My question to you is that could it be possible for a shy/quiet girl to be “alpha”??? Also I believe some females alpha or not can have varying degrees of what they find to be “alpha” traits. For example a single, strong, idependant mother of three may find something more along the lines of comfort, fun, and sexy MORE “alpha” or appealing than lets say strong, assertive, and sexual. I would say not all “alpha” girls are aggressive BUT the ones that are like aggressive mixes. In my thinking a majority of “alpha” girls are more outgoing and aggressive themselves thus making aggressive mixes work well. I see this being more prevalent in situations that are considered competive like clubs and bars. NOw take this same mix and wear it at a book store with the same “alpha” girl from the club and see if she responds differently. As for some other things in your journal and elswhere… Have you tried rev 26 and P90 yet??? P91 I haven’t tried over 20 mcgs(need to check my journal to see for sure), but regardless I ran into some problems while testing this regularly…sporadic use with A314 seemed to be the best IMO. P91 for some reason gets me very sporadic good and bad vibes from others. when it’s good it’s good and when it’s bad I’m like what the F is going on here. The good thing is there are more good days than bad, but isn’t something I can use day after day. As a standalone P my son and family loved this stuff…co-workers on the other hand were up and down a bit. I have been using P79, Ammo Heavy, and P74 on top of Rev26 and I feel I am getting more of a standard A314 effect on myself personally. I’m working on elimating products to see if just one is giving me these effects or if its the whole combo of mones. It’s hard to explain the difference I feel whilte wearing A314 rev23 compared to rev26 and I’m not trying to turn your journal into MY college dissertation so I’m gonna leave it at this. Man do I really enjoy reading your journal. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1093 "2011-08-14T17:25:12Z")
> [@Astrea](#): > > I 100% agree. An alpha girl doesn’t want to be the decision maker or caretaker for a weaker willed male (or anyone, for that matter). > A domineering girl (with issues) wants to be momma to a guy and ‘manage’ him. > As you all have worked out by now, confidence is the majority any equation. I don’t mean that a alpha girl wants someone to dominate her; she wants to feel confident that all parties can look after themselves and that her guy is a confident male - who behaves like a confident male - is there for all things. Including the occasional leaning post when life gets a little intense. Won’t go on about that. You know what I’m saying - just confirming your theory. 😃 > > I hope you do get to fuck - if that’s what you want. 😛 > > LOL 😃 Maybe an emergency TOGO! of P74?? 😮😉 LOL I’m actually toning down with her cause it really is making all the other girls I meet that don’t know us things are going on. She’s not taken officially but there is someone there in her life, I’m not sure if that’s why it hasn’t happened yet. I know she thought I was cute and from day 1 I busted her chops all the time and we just went from there. A few cases that happened we were > [@GorMas2020](#): > > My question to you is that could it be possible for a shy/quiet girl to be “alpha”??? > > Also I believe some females alpha or not can have varying degrees of what they find to be “alpha” traits. For example a single, strong, idependant mother of three may find something more along the lines of comfort, fun, and sexy MORE “alpha” or appealing than lets say strong, assertive, and sexual. > > I would say not all “alpha” girls are aggressive BUT the ones that are like aggressive mixes. In my thinking a majority of “alpha” girls are more outgoing and aggressive themselves thus making aggressive mixes work well. I see this being more prevalent in situations that are considered competive like clubs and bars. NOw take this same mix and wear it at a book store with the same “alpha” girl from the club and see if she responds differently. > > As for some other things in your journal and elswhere… > > Have you tried rev 26 and P90 yet??? > > P91 I haven’t tried over 20 mcgs(need to check my journal to see for sure), but regardless I ran into some problems while testing this regularly…sporadic use with A314 seemed to be the best IMO. P91 for some reason gets me very sporadic good and bad vibes from others. when it’s good it’s good and when it’s bad I’m like what the F is going on here. The good thing is there are more good days than bad, but isn’t something I can use day after day. As a standalone P my son and family loved this stuff…co-workers on the other hand were up and down a bit. > > I have been using P79, Ammo Heavy, and P74 on top of Rev26 and I feel I am getting more of a standard A314 effect on myself personally. I’m working on elimating products to see if just one is giving me these effects or if its the whole combo of mones. It’s hard to explain the difference I feel whilte wearing A314 rev23 compared to rev26 and I’m not trying to turn your journal into MY college dissertation so I’m gonna leave it at this. > > Man do I really enjoy reading your journal. 😃 Thanks bro, I appreciate it. I haven’t tried R.26 with P90 but did with P91, I still haven’t honed in on the intricacies of it it still confuses me sometimes. I read some of your reports after testing them, and I found that I probably didn’t test these in the right environments. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1094 "2011-08-14T17:27:34Z")
MX301 + [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) is definitely a winner in my book. I gotta say that so far it’s coming close to ICM 2.0 I’d like to encourage people who have used MX301 and ICM 2.0 to compare, don’t know if it is just me but it would be nice to see those reports. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1095 "2011-08-15T17:40:49Z")
Well ICM 2.0 has [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) in it so adding P75 to MX301 gets close the the same thing as you reported, because it is close to the same thing. I used A314 and ICM 2.0 this weekend at the request of Dancing Joker and I had the most amazing results I’ve ever had from any product EVER. Women approached me all night and yeah, the sex was great. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1096 "2011-08-15T17:48:33Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Well ICM 2.0 has P75 in it so adding P75 to MX301 gets close the the same thing as you reported, because it is close to the same thing. > > I used A314 and ICM 2.0 this weekend at the request of Dancing Joker and I had the most amazing results I’ve ever had from any product EVER. Women approached me all night and yeah, the sex was great. Oh man I must try this. Were you using a special revision or just the 23? I knew it had [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) in it, but I didn’t think that it would mesh well because of the ratios, also didn’t want to reveal any of your forumla without consent. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1097 "2011-08-15T18:11:58Z")
MX301 x6 + [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) 5mcg application on forearms, venues, bars and lounges. I’ve already reaffirmed this theory before and just kept running with it. On my first stop out, I was meeting a buncha friends out but went out with a friend first to pregame beforehand. I got the basic reactions that I normally get. However in one instance after sitting there a while, I got a comment that I looked hotter. She kept saying that she doesn’t know what it is, that if I changed something about my looks, but that I just looked hotter. Throughout the rest of that night, I was just getting looks from her, which I found to be a little off boat because we have known each other for a while now. I head on over to a friends house at this point, I’m meeting a buncha people there. The majority were going to be female, which I knew previously, and we were supposed to meet more women that they knew but I didn’t yet, perfect. There is this female there that I have tension with from our previous interactions. It was completely my fault why she dislikes me, and we always have that tension (not the good kind) that you can always tell. For some reason, tonight I actually felt she was more open to just being civil and I didn’t get that death stare I usually get from her when I make off colored jokes with my friends. She’s Ms. Prim and proper to begin with anyway so it just aggrivates her more when it’s coming from me. The rest of the night went pretty well, I had to cut it early and didn’t get a chance to meet the new girls, but when I met up with my other friend, he ended up deciding to call it an early night 20 minutes after we met up. I decided to call it a night cause I was out of options on what to do. As I was heading out I saw this cute girl I know and she was just leaving. I told myself what the heck not, I told her to stay for a little and grab a drink and we go and sit. You can tell it was already game on, body was positioned towards me, the smile, the look, and even the good old hair play. The conversation is getting good, and I had another girl we both know come and sit with us. I couldn’t hint at the fact I wanted some alone time with her, but she went and sat and got into the conversation, it didn’t matter to me cause it wasn’t the only time I would see this girl, so we all got into a fun conversation and stayed a good amount of time. What I noticed, which was very very noticeable was that they both sat pretty close to me. I had to actually move my seat all the way back to go to the bathroom, I was essentially landlocked between them. It was that noticeable that another mutual friend of ours commented that I was a lucky guy being sandwiched between two good looking women. The night ended up fun and it attracted the rest of the girls there to our conversation. A friend of mine, whom I’ve mentioned plenty of times here, comes in and breaks up the party. I honestly think sometimes she gets pissed I don’t show her all the attention. She does her usual of being flirty/aggressive, and tries even harder when I just ignore it. It irks and irritates her which is fun at the same time as slightly annoying. Anyways, she asked me to do her a favor, which she could have done herself without any detriment to her, but she was just being lazy, so I flat out said no. She asked for a ride to her car, which it was late out so that I was going to do, but I was also driving 2 of my other friends because it was late and I didn’t want the girls walking/cabbing it home at a late hour. She was the first one I would drop off because of the proximity yet she insisted ont aking the front seat, in my theory, trying to establish some sort of dominance over the girls there. I just found it very interesting, which I called her out on it as soon as she got into the car. Also the back seat was closer to where she was than the front, but she made it a point to come to the front. Very interesting and fun night. I also had another interaction with someone else that really shocks me. I’ve noticed increases in texts and flirting with her which weren’t evident a while ago. Kino has also gone up and she’s been more bold in her statements regarding lines that shouldn’t neccesarily be crossed due to our friendship. I started to notice this more recently, and with ICM 2.0 first followed by MX301 + P75. I love the effect it gives, but if you don’t use it right, it can seriously get you into some trouble. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1098 "2011-08-15T19:15:45Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Oh man I must try this. Were you using a special revision or just the 23? > > I knew it had P75 in it, but I didn’t think that it would mesh well because of the ratios, also didn’t want to reveal any of your forumla without consent. Well I used UFE, but Dancing Joker used R23. The remarkable thing was that both od our results were nearly identical. I seriously had a steady stream of women walking up to me and talking. One particular girl, that I’m madly in love with, was at the bar with her friends. She got up and walked around to the other side of the bar to order a beer…right next to me. Again she was at the bar already. She is the prettiest babe I have ever seen in Memphis and I met a movie star here on Beale Street. Don’t get me wrong the movie star is stunning and I look to keep a low profile while I’m around her. The last thing I need is to end up on TMZ-DOH! This one I met Saturday is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I want to have children with her. Also keep in mind I haven’t had a good hit off mones in months. Nothing, including ICM 2.0 has worked for me. When I was making it I finally got it to work right and after a week or two of using it everything else stopped working including it too. Well Saturday with little expectations (I actually was debating going out) I was hit with e brick right upside the head. It was like the A314 activated the ICM. I’m really excited about the UF2 test pack though too. It will be really great to test them without having to be self-conscious about the scent package. With all the great results you and everyone else got there might not be a need for ICM. It’s exciting 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1099 "2011-08-15T19:46:49Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Well I used UFE, but Dancing Joker used R23. The remarkable thing was that both od our results were nearly identical. I seriously had a steady stream of women walking up to me and talking. One particular girl, that I’m madly in love with, was at the bar with her friends. She got up and walked around to the other side of the bar to order a beer…right next to me. Again she was at the bar already. She is the prettiest babe I have ever seen in Memphis and I met a movie star here on Beale Street. Don’t get me wrong the movie star is stunning and I look to keep a low profile while I’m around her. The last thing I need is to end up on TMZ-DOH! This one I met Saturday is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I want to have children with her. > > Also keep in mind I haven’t had a good hit off mones in months. Nothing, including ICM 2.0 has worked for me. When I was making it I finally got it to work right and after a week or two of using it everything else stopped working including it too. Well Saturday with little expectations (I actually was debating going out) I was hit with e brick right upside the head. It was like the A314 activated the ICM. > > I’m really excited about the UF2 test pack though too. It will be really great to test them without having to be self-conscious about the scent package. With all the great results you and everyone else got there might not be a need for ICM. It’s exciting 🙂 I wouldn’t sell ICM short. I think for younger guys, who are looking for fast acting hits, those are better, but IME (I’ve used ICM mixes a lot more because of supply) they the best in most situations and in general more effective. ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1100 "2011-08-15T22:51:36Z")
To be honest, of the two, I would prefer ICM vs UF. They’re both awesome mixes but I have found that UF can be too intense, too sexual. Perfect for ons. ICM to me feels more suited for ltr. They’re both good in their own ways. However the last report I gave on ICM, I forgot to mention that I was wearing a314 rev23 one drop to two sprays of ICM. VERY powerful results. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1101 "2011-08-16T21:48:42Z")
> [@2000GT](#): > > To be honest, of the two, I would prefer ICM vs UF. They’re both awesome mixes but I have found that UF can be too intense, too sexual. Perfect for ons. ICM to me feels more suited for ltr. They’re both good in their own ways. > > However the last report I gave on ICM, I forgot to mention that I was wearing a314 rev23 one drop to two sprays of ICM. VERY powerful results. 🙂 Mustang is just a big hater! He even sent me a txt saying how much he hates the both of us and wishes us doom and gloom ☹. Poor guy, I forgive him 😉 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913.md?page=54) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913.md?page=56)