# P51Mustang's Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [May 27, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913 "2010-05-27T16:50:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 62

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**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1222 "2011-11-04T06:00:18Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> I was spraying on some P96 the other night and the hint of smell I noticed really reminded me as part of the nol test pack I used. My inkling is that it could really be a super refined version of Androstenol or a derivative of such. Tests have pointed out that it could be that and closer to beta Androstenol but heared towards the bonding side.

What scent is your P96? I have mine in grapefruit and I can’t smell any pheros in any of my grapefruit bottles like I can with the other scents. I do see how it could be similar to some type of -nol.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1223 "2011-11-04T06:01:51Z")

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> [@jayarea](#):
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> What scent is your P96? I have mine in grapefruit and I can’t smell any pheros in any of my grapefruit bottles like I can with the other scents. I do see how it could be similar to some type of -nol.

I have mine in [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) that’s prolly why. This is really the first time I smelled it I guess my nose is getting better at this.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1224 "2011-11-07T04:36:03Z")

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Interesting how things work out. After all that, I can honestly say I have a smile on my face.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1225 "2011-11-08T22:13:07Z")

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And you should my friend. You are a great person 🙂 and there really is only one thing left to do: Smile, smile, smile 🙂

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**Author:** ![somechick03862](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@somechick03862](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/somechick03862)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1226 "2011-11-10T03:25:46Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> Really don’t know what to do anymore, I forgot how much it hurts to let something good go =\

I don’t know you, but I do know this feeling, all too well …I hope things are getting better for you 🙂

And thanks for reading my journal, I think you are the only one who does! 😉

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1227 "2011-11-10T15:19:35Z")

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> [@somechick03862](#):
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> I don’t know you, but I do know this feeling, all too well …I hope things are getting better for you 🙂
> 
> And thanks for reading my journal, I think you are the only one who does! 😉

Thanks,

But I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one. Keep up the great reporting, eventually you’ll have more people read it and share experiences and tips with you. When I first started, no one really read my Journal. Some people started to read it and I’ve made some good friends on here and we’ve all shared experiences and tips, both mones and life with each other in this Journal.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 6:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1228 "2011-11-12T06:40:04Z")

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I figured I’d give you guys an update, there hasn’t been many updates, mone wise to you guys in a while.

So this whole time I’ve been “dating” this girl. I’ve known her for a while, and while it is a complicated situation, it’s still something that I want to pursue because of how things happened. It is probably one of the most complicated and morally wrong situations that I’ve ever had to encounter. It’s just that when you meet someone and things just click, it’s hard to let something like that go.

We were friends for a while, and everything in my Journal she’s known about. She was my go to person for a while, she had a bf and I figured we were just good friends. As time went on, things started to click more and more for us. I knew deep down inside we would work out but I wasn’t about to cross a line neither her or I wanted to. I thought she was happy in where she was in her life. I didn’t want to tell her how I felt because our friendship was important and I didn’t want to make things awkward. Little did I know that she started to feel the same way about me. She’s been in a long term relationship and while I thought things were good, I found out otherwise. Notwithstanding what she was going through, we got closer and closer to the eventual point that we ended up hooking up and took things from there. We spent more and more time with each other, and as it went on we started to fall for each other. As of now we’re in a limbo of what we want to do. I’m someone new versus something she’s comfortable with and known for a while. While I don’t advocate cheating, this circumstance was probably the most “appropriate” in a long while. I’m not proud of what we’re doing but I’m not going to let this one pass me by. I’ve backed away from so many women with LTR’s but this one I just couldn’t let go. We’ll see how it goes, and I’ve calmed down my usage besides the A314 and TUTH but I wanted to let you guys know what I was up to and why I haven’t tested in a while.

Cheers.

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**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1229 "2011-11-13T19:38:23Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> Sit down and pull up a chair, its story time with Mustang.
> 
> A long long time ago in a galaxy far far away there was a boy who barely registered a blip on people’s radar. The boy led a pretty good life, just like everyone else he had his ups and downs. There was something special about this boy though, he possessed some raw talent that even he did not know he had. As years went on, he muddled in the muck of mediocrity, often settling for less and not going after what he wanted.
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> As the years went by he knew he had to do something because something deep inside him told him he can do better, and that he must. He embarked in this ongoing journey to experience and live his life. He was not sure how hard it was going to be, or what kind of experiences he would encounter, but went on ahead knowing that he didn’t want to be where he was. The road was tough, there was so many obstacles yet so much to learn and experience. He was the good, and he saw the bad but as time went on and the distance he traveled kept increasing he knew that somewhere along his travels he would find wonderful things that await him.
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> He came to realize that all the warning and caution signs weren’t meant to discourage him, but to educate him. He heeded and ignored them, to his realization, he learned what he can and can’t do. However each time he challenged himself to do better and better. Friends along the way helped him stay true to his course, gave him encouragement and set markers along the way. In his travels he’s known what it felt like to succeed and to fail. Knowing full well that if he stayed true to his passions and himself, good things will come and will fall into place.
> 
> I’ve gone through so many ups and downs here and I’ve publicly shared this with many of you. I learned another valuable lesson recently, that being yourself, and the genuine aura that you give will always trump any pre-set game or any boxed tactics. I’ve used the M3 method, and other PUA methods to learn to be playful and create tension, but that’s all mute when you yourself aren’t centered. If you remain who you are, and let things flow the way they’re intended, you will reap the rewards for it. Too often times we want something that’s almost an instant result. Sometimes things that are worth it, are worth the time and the effort, as long as both sides respect each other. Recently, someone who has been in my life, and have not actively pursued, came to a mutual realization about how we felt about each other. **I was always 100% genuine with her, and always told her everything. She saw me for the real me, without any hindrance from trying to be too perfect. She saw my flaws and was fine with it. I learned she thought and felt about me the way I did for her. I thought this was recent and with the help of IBF but this has been going on a while. All I can say is that I’m happy.** It may not work out because our lives right now are going in different directions but you never know where it may lead. It felt good when this happened, and I truly am at a happy place right now.
> 
> I want to extend a Thank You to all of you who have read and supported me and cheered me along the way. Aside from my RL friends, and to name a few, Steve, Smelly, Josie, thegentleman, joe, olfact, jay, astrea, and a few others, thank you.

Stangman, that’s what it’s all about. Relaxing into who you are. Not what people think you are (they often project); but who you know you really are. Congratulations and I’m ecstatic for you. These moments of joy are the treasures we remember and fuel our ongoing quests for more. More of everything. The position of power is open - open to what may come without attachment to outcome, to change, and to new perceptions - and that’s something that’s evident in your journal. I wish you all that you want. Yes, I’m very aware that I sound like a big girl, here. But, in fact, I am a big squishy girl that wants everyone to be happy. You’ve been an awesome friend to me here and I’m honored to be included in the above. I’ve just managed to catch up with your journal since my pc got sick; and I’m impressed. You’re awesome, dude. Rock on.

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**Author:** ![delocc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/delocc/32/1200_2.png) [@delocc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/delocc)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1230 "2011-11-13T20:00:16Z")

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I second all of Astrea’s words : )

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 11:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1231 "2011-11-20T11:28:26Z")

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I tested out a low -none mix, turned out to be an intimate situation.

It was  
A314 r.26 x1  
P96 37.5mcg  
Beta Nol 22.5 mcg  
P86 30mcg

Wow these social bonding mones work extremely well. In terms of the overall effects with us, we were just so much closer and more intimate with each other so far. Granted this is a new relationship but by far the best sex and connection thereafter. It was like complete emotions came out and both the sexual and connection aspect were really amped up. I didn’t use any TUTH and the low -none content of A314 was really the only thing there.

Fallout effect is definitely there, on both sides from this mix. Can’t help but just say wow, wow, and wow.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1232 "2011-11-20T22:31:22Z")

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I have been wearing Ishine and IO all weekend to very good effects. It always amazes me just how attractive of a combo it is without any none added in 🙂

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1233 "2011-11-22T18:06:06Z")

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Doing some putative testing  
P91 to sides of neck at 12.5 mcg/spray at 2 sprays.  
Office Environment

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1234 "2011-11-24T16:17:09Z")

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I tried out a mix of A314 r.26 x3 on the neck over TUTH x2 last night.

It’s really hard to tell what part this played when I met up with my gf last night but I figured it was a good shot to try. She was so close and affectionate it could just be attributed to the relationship being so new. The sex was just so hot and passionate that I don’t know how to really grab a baseline from this. I will probably have to try without it and see but that was a recommendation Steve gave me on my post.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1235 "2011-11-25T19:11:55Z")

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Ummm GF? Did I miss a post?

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1236 "2011-11-26T15:16:33Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Ummm GF? Did I miss a post?

Recent, only happened a couple of days ago.

Check FB

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 1:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1237 "2011-11-27T13:04:25Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> _ **Recent, only happened a couple of days ago.** _
> 
> _ **Check FB** _

😮

Does that mean our engagement is off?! 😃

In all seriousness, no real foundation can be built with anyone unless you’re willing to face your true feelings, open up and make yourself vulnerable. I give you credit for having goals and going after what you want while having the strength to be true to yourself and the courage to allow someone to know you without pretense. That’s a tall order to fill and so freaking hot I can’t even begin to tell you.

I wish you and your lady love nothing but the best, flyboy. 🙂 I know you’ll do just fine. You’ve got the right stuff. 😉

Bella

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1238 "2011-11-28T18:18:47Z")

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> [@Bella](#):
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> 😮
> 
> Does that mean our engagement is off?! 😃
> 
> In all seriousness, no real foundation can be built with anyone unless you’re willing to face your true feelings, open up and make yourself vulnerable. I give you credit for having goals and going after what you want while having the strength to be true to yourself and the courage to allow someone to know you without pretense. That’s a tall order to fill and so freaking hot I can’t even begin to tell you.
> 
> I wish you and your lady love nothing but the best, flyboy. 🙂 I know you’ll do just fine. You’ve got the right stuff. 😉
> 
> Bella

I know, no more being bad. For the most part. Maybe.

But thank you I appreciate the kind words.

While things were hairy at first and it was more of a complicated situation. Inherently, deep down, we complement each other. This is the first time we’re open with each other and don’t play the games that typically comes with relationships.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1239 "2011-11-29T16:39:00Z")

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Found another staple mix that I like.

Some A314 r.26 x3 and TUTH x2, all on the neck.

There is inherently something very gravitational about this combo. You can almost feel a pull aura eminating from you when you wear it. I started to try combos that I normally wouldn’t have in the past and they’re working out great. This was a bar atmosphere and there were lots of competing scents out there but there was a point we were really surrounded by women all night. Even from other groups, they tended to keep proximity closer than I could sense. From me to notice this, especially since I wasn’t looking for any hits, because my GF was there, was interesting, to say the least.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1240 "2011-11-29T18:36:05Z")

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Its not stupid, its my favorite. The giants are stupid!

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1241 "2011-11-29T20:04:59Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Its not stupid, its my favorite. The giants are stupid!

Not cool. Steve, not cool.

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