# P51Mustang's Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [May 27, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913 "2010-05-27T16:50:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 71

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**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1403 "2013-04-14T22:26:21Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> It’s really good for one on one interaction, first dates, a coffee meet up, a comfy intimate setting within a small group of people.

I’ll give it a shot on my upcoming first date. I posed a question for you over in my journal.

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1404 "2013-04-15T14:34:57Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> Well I have what was promised to you guys, if you want more details you guys can email me at pt51mustang at gmail

Why not post it if you’ve tested and found CONSISTENT and POSITIVE results, PStang?

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1405 "2013-04-16T05:37:22Z")

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> [@M\_M](#):
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> Why not post it if you’ve tested and found CONSISTENT and POSITIVE results, PStang?

Not using AD here for the testing, they’ve been good to me and I want to respect their space. Only a handful of people have shown interest in this, not the typical mone user would like it so I figured it would be ok for a handful of people.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1406 "2013-05-08T09:41:55Z")

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Well just to update my fellow folks on what’s been going on. I haven’t reported much because I’ve been impressed with the IBF testing I’ve been doing outside. It’s worked as well, if not better, in some cases and I cannot believe I’ve found something that’s viable that I can keep using it on a protracted basis.

I’m still here though, still using my old batches of A314 and products that I’ve had for a long time, still work great but I think until these product issues get sorted out that I will hold out on any purchases from AD.

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**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 11:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1407 "2013-05-11T11:50:56Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> Well just to update my fellow folks on what’s been going on. I haven’t reported much because I’ve been impressed with the IBF testing I’ve been doing outside. It’s worked as well, if not better, in some cases and I cannot believe I’ve found something that’s viable that I can keep using it on a protracted basis.
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> I’m still here though, still using my old batches of A314 and products that I’ve had for a long time, still work great but I think until these product issues get sorted out that I will hold out on any purchases from AD.

Good to hear; I liked IBF (version 1).

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 9:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1408 "2013-05-14T09:30:10Z")

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> [@jayarea](#):
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> Good to hear; I liked IBF (version 1).

You gotta try this newest version I’m using. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH mazing.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1409 "2013-05-14T13:02:10Z")

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Man oh man, the testing has been awesome. I don’t think AD would mind since they no longer consider the missing molecule a priority but I did find a product that I am confident and tested continiously to work very well.

XiSt at [pheromonexs.com](http://pheromonexs.com) is AWESOMENESS. Completely stake my reputation on this product. This is everything I wanted IBF to be, ANNNNNNNNNNNNND its available to everyone.

I needed to let this out because IBF was one of the staple mixes for me and got my gf and I to where we are now. Awesome stuff, and this is from a supplier I completely trust Aside from AD.

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**Author:** ![Quicksilver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/quicksilver/32/1328_2.png) [@Quicksilver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quicksilver)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1410 "2013-05-29T22:56:05Z")

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> [@SteveO](#):
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> What you are describing is called hypnotic rapport building. It’s a very good way to build comfort. You should always follow movements by a few seconds off. Its not mirroring though which basically is following everything they do immediately after they do it. The three second pause gives it time so the brain doesn’t notice and takes it as a hypnotic suggestion that you and this person are very much in-tune with each other.
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> Keep in mind though, while it rarely occurs, if someone catches on to your rapport building efforts you have zero chance of influencing them. It would be best to just move on at that point

When you’re mirroring, and realize your partner has just done the Macarena moves three times in sequence in slow motion, and has an unexplained smirk on her face, it’s pretty safe to conclude you’ve been made.

Cheers,

🆒 Quicksilver

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2013, 10:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1411 "2013-08-12T10:42:16Z")

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AD was kind enough to send me versions of the A314 and the new test pack gratis.

I’m going to be fair and test the products out, I’m going to see if they are what I remember them to be. I’m going to try to keep an open mind at it because I think after all these years, AD has respected my opinion and given me an opportunity to see maybe that the products work the way they are supposed to now.

I’m disclosing this because most detractors that are anti androtics would probably say I got bought off, and paid off, but quite frankly I make my own money and I can buy whatever I please, so before you think any of these reports could be tainted, keep your comments to yourself, I’m addressing the situation now and making full disclosure before any of you could say anything (only a few people).

Hopefully we can get down to what ultimately this new blend is and see if it really does work like A314.

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**Author:** ![Jojje](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@Jojje](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jojje)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2013, 11:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1412 "2013-08-12T11:03:14Z")

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GL, hope its back 😃

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2013, 11:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1413 "2013-08-12T11:28:32Z")

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Sounds interesting! Keep us updated!

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 8:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1414 "2013-08-13T08:12:49Z")

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So I went to look at the new rev 32 for A314 and I applied my normal 2-3 drops with my normal use. The smell still seems a bit off from what I remember the r23’s were. I guess with the musk, the smell was more “sharp” with r32 than it was with r23’s “robust” the difference isn’t too noticeable but I did since I have a few R23’s still available. It hasn’t given me that “motivational pump” that I initially got after application but I noticed that maybe 20 min or so later, I was feeling that.

I still have a few more weeks of testing to see and we will see how it goes.

Also, I actually really like the summer edition scent way better than the FF21 and FF22 scents. I wonder if you would keep this scent option all year long. It’s easier to apply on a daily basis than it is for the other FF scents.

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**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1415 "2013-08-15T12:55:23Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> So I went to look at the new rev 32 for A314 and I applied my normal 2-3 drops with my normal use. The smell still seems a bit off from what I remember the r23’s were. I guess with the musk, the smell was more “sharp” with r32 than it was with r23’s “robust” the difference isn’t too noticeable but I did since I have a few R23’s still available. It hasn’t given me that “motivational pump” that I initially got after application but I noticed that maybe 20 min or so later, I was feeling that.
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> I still have a few more weeks of testing to see and we will see how it goes.
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> Also, I actually really like the summer edition scent way better than the FF21 and FF22 scents. I wonder if you would keep this scent option all year long. It’s easier to apply on a daily basis than it is for the other FF scents.

Is it the same scent as summer edition Ammo? (if you’ve tried it)

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1416 "2013-08-20T12:04:13Z")

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> [@jayarea](#):
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> Is it the same scent as summer edition Ammo? (if you’ve tried it)

Nah it’s the same A314 scent, something is still a bit off, I may cover up labels and test that way pretty soon, so far so good with the effects, there is still something that’s off, but that could just be bias but I’m going to try and report on the sprays pretty soon when I get some testing time for it.

But I do like the AMMO summer edition though, the scent is nice IMO.

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**Author:** ![Joe10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joe10/32/300_2.png) [@Joe10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Joe10)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1417 "2013-08-22T14:28:29Z")

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If there is one thing I missed from this site, it’s reading your journal P51. It’s nice to know the quality is still there. I missed testing too.

Take care  
God bless

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**Author:** ![phertest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@phertest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phertest)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 9:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1418 "2013-09-04T09:49:32Z")

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Looking forward to the reports on a314. I’ve noticed it doesn’t have that distinct smell I got from my rev20, that was unforgettable. But I do not get the motivation effect either… its much more subtle in this one. I dont get the raging confidence, but I do notice a lot of my negative mental chatter fades away and I can be more productive. 2 drops seems too much for me. I get impatient and aggravated at small things. Have you noticed anything like this?

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 11:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1419 "2013-09-05T11:57:00Z")

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> [@phertest](#):
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> Looking forward to the reports on a314. I’ve noticed it doesn’t have that distinct smell I got from my rev20, that was unforgettable. But I do not get the motivation effect either… its much more subtle in this one. I dont get the raging confidence, but I do notice a lot of my negative mental chatter fades away and I can be more productive. 2 drops seems too much for me. I get impatient and aggravated at small things. Have you noticed anything like this?

The smell of it still is something off by it, the results, are not as different as I have been with rev 23, this one is probably in between rev 23 and SBE edition. I’ve used it on and off it may take more time for me to figure this out, I might do some sleeve testing soon. I’ll keep you guys updated

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1420 "2013-09-05T16:09:57Z")

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I JUST got my A314… I will be trying it out in the next couple of days… 🙂

1Alpha

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**Author:** ![Mr.Sea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.sea/32/1227_2.png) [@Mr.Sea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Sea)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1421 "2013-09-05T18:45:08Z")

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I haven’t had any experience with prior versions of A314 but I had a sale today that went as smooth as glass while wearing it. Slight boost in self esteem when wearing it.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/1422 "2014-01-23T19:03:09Z")

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I’ve worn the newer revisions of A314, I can’t to this day notice a difference still while wearing it, unfortunately I’ve exhaused all the older versions of it and couldn’t do testing without knowing what each bottle did.

However, I did go out with IG the other night, it wasn’t too bad actually, going to reflect on the situations that happened and I’ll get back to you guys.

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