# P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person' vibe, and empathy **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 17, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136 "2007-08-17T15:43:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/1 "2007-08-17T15:43:03Z")
Some P74 ‘attractant’ effects on females that have been documented so far: [P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose? - #21 by SwingerMD](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74/197/21) SwingerMD (March 28, 2006): “Yes, p74 does seem to elicit a light “boyfriend” effect. I also have notice that both sexes really open up, very candid, and volunteer information on how they are feeling and what is on their mind. Sorta like what I hear about the effects of Instant Honesty (just got it but haven’t used it yet). The latter effects were from friends/acquaintances. It kinda bumped them up a notch toward close friends” [New Oriental Pheromone Cologne?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-oriental-pheromone-cologne/322/13) SwingerMD (April 30, 2006): “Couple that with the very strong boyfriendish connection/empathy that p74 seems evoke”? [P80 onwards](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-onwards/473/9) SwingerMD (July 7, 2006): "Re: And a look back at P74 Originally Posted by tacitus have been trying fairly strong doses… concluded that it is a friendly pheromone, no big shifts in any given direction, a warm friendly old dog of a pheromone, everybody’s in a good mood without being sexy or spacy… a nice hang out and go with the flow booster… . . . um tell that to the woman (close to legally blind) that mistook me for her boyfriend." [P74 - Good for everything? - #3 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469/3) Sigma (March 12, 2007): "I don’t have a whole lot of experience with P74, but I have been running a few trials with it (by itself and in mixes) Women seem a little…addicted to me when I throw it into the mix. Thats the best way I can describe it. It seems to have the magnetism of TAL, but works better at creating sexual magnetism when used in conjunction with sexual type pheromones. To put it simple, it isn’t as girly asTAL, though P74 doesn’t seem to be the most masculine pheromone either." [King of the world mix: how MX147 kept a heavily sexual mix social and open - #19 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/king-of-the-world-mix/1454/19) Sigma (March 16, 2007): "Too expand on this a bit (because I was too drunk to do so when I made the above post lol). P74 seems to work better at creating social magnetism with women than TAL, so I swapped them out to see how things would change. The mix certainly changed in a highly positive direction, adding a much stronger attention grabbing element to things. In general this mix works really well because it centers a lot of attention on me when I wear it. P74 seemed to accentuate this centralizing effect further, creating a lot of very strong social results, as well as some openly sexual ones. The women around me were certainly more attentive. The ones I interacted with were highly, highly flirtatious, and DIHL’s were coming left and right. I usually pay little regard to DIHL’s as a measure of the pheromones effects, but when they happen that frequently, it really needs to be noted. MX102 really does help ground P74 a bit…its a little ‘up in the air’ socially by itself. To sum up my results with the night…my friend and I were talkin on the way home and he says to me: “How do you know so many girls? I have a lot of female friends, but they never come up and talk to me and act the way they do to you. Do you have some sort of secret pimping skills I don’t know about?” I’ll be running this mix again tomorrow with the inclusion of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)." [P74 is NOT what i expected - #3 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-is-not-what-i-expected/2704/3) Sigma (March 24, 2007): “People wanting to be in your personal space seems to be the primary benefit [of P74] to others. It creates a strong social presence…enhanced of social attention and magnetism. My WIP clubbing mix thrives on this type of social positioning. With the addition of P74, even the people who hang around me notice the increased (sexual) attention that I’ve been getting. Good stuff” [P74 - Good for everything? - #10 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469/10) Sigma (March 25, 2007): “P74 is socially very light. Very much an attention grabber. Creates a whole lot of social magnetism, but is also very socially ‘up in the air’. Spacey, socially careless, maybe a little too open at times. Its a little sexual and edgy…makes women kind of adore you” [P74 - Good for everything? - #19 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469/19) Sigma (April 5, 2007): “As for the boyfriend effect…I’ve seen some evidence of this myself. Women seem to get very clingy when I wear this stuff out (as mentioned in one case during my earlier trials with it).” [p74 test](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-test/3221/2) Sigma (April 19, 2007): Re: p74 test "My experience was with a 12.5mcg per spray togo bottle. 25Mcg was ideal for me…any higher than that and it got excessive…as in waaaaaay too socially amped up. I placed an order for a full-sized bottle early this week, so I’ll be testing more thoroughly when it gets here. The attraction it builds is quite awesome though. Makes women very clingy (boyfriend effect?). For me it works well with a dash of A314, to anchor the effects. try it out pairs really well with Instant Female Magic too. P74+Instant Female Magic+A314 haven’t tried that mix specifically, but it should be a goody!" > [@A314, p74 and shine on a quiet girl, ITS GOLD](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p74-and-shine-on-a-quiet-girl-its-gold/3388): > > one of my fraternity brothers has a girlfriend. Unfortunately she has a crush. and its on me. and its because (primarily) of P74. i was also wearing A314 and shine together without p74 with some minor hits for part of the night. But once i applied the P74, it went into hyper drive. I’ve suspected his girlfriend had a small thing for me before, but she would never make a move. Tonight was different. With the p74 applied, she just had to be touching me, whether it was hugging or holding … perronec (April 28, 2007): "one of my fraternity brothers has a girlfriend. Unfortunately she has a crush. and its on me. and its because (primarily) of P74. i was also wearing A314 and shine together without p74 with some minor hits for part of the night. But once i applied the P74, it went into hyper drive. I’ve suspected his girlfriend had a small thing for me before, but she would never make a move. Tonight was different. With the p74 applied, she just had to be touching me, whether it was hugging or holding my arm and putting her head on my shoulder. She would stand in between my legs slowly getting closer and closer to my crotch, and i would have to get up to avoid a big situation…BECAUSE HER BOYFRIEND WAS IN THE ROOM WITH US. When i did get up to leave she litterally tried to pull me back. Shes not a big girl (4’11"), and shes pretty skinny, so i imagine she was pulling with all her might. I couldn’t beleive it. once i politely freed myself from her grasp, i just up and left the room, because i wouldn’t do anything with my friends girlfriend. but anyways, amazing hit. the mix(in chronological order): 7PM) 2.5 drops of A314 to the neck area 9PM) 6 sprays of Instant Shine 11PM) 1 more spray of Instant Shine added later to the face and arms 1PM) 50mcg of p74 from my sample bottle that i got free from androdics, THANKS JASMIN." ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/2 "2007-08-17T17:56:22Z")
This was very inspiring! I will be using p74 tonight.. will report if anything interesting happens! ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2007, 10:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/3 "2007-08-18T10:45:39Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy Yes keep us updated of your findings Mr. Phoenix. Now lets take a look at that mellow ‘cool person’ vibe that users have reported a lot of when wearing P74… [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #81 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/81) PheroQuirk (August 6, 2006): “P74 and EST seem to be good (when combined with a regular balanced mix inc A314 and Shine) at creating a cool vibe amongst men and women alike. You are a relaxed, charismatic presence - lovely guy/mature, powerful yet not intimidating and people smile, want to get to know you, invite you to parties. And I think this stays with them - it’s not like an OD of some of the simpler mixes where if you see someone again without it they are in a different state and it’s as if your interaction with them previously had never reached the level it did and they feel at some level puzzled about why they behaved that way towards you” [Pheromone Arousal - #37 by m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-arousal/1768/37) m3turbo (April 30, 2007): “P74 seems to sort of give off a cool person vibe. It seems to make people think “hey this guy knows where the party is at.” It is very interesting, I think because so many women will judge you based on your social status is why this is making my mixes so much more effective. I have not used it by itself though so I can’t say for sure but when I added it to my mixes I started getting way more hits.” [Pheromone Arousal - #39 by m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-arousal/1768/39) m3turbo (May 1, 2007): “I have never used come CTTM so I can’t compare but P74 is slightly different than any reaction I have gotten from the nols. People don’t flock around you like I guess they are supposed to with CTTM. It is like an admirable androstenol. Like A314 but cooler and more approachable. So you are pretty accurate with your CTTM A314 reference.” [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/4) Flipcat (May 1, 2007): "Yeah, it’s friendly, but I like this variation of friendly more than something like [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or CTTM when used alone. It’s more like it makes you into a guy people want to be friendly with, rather than stuff you spray on that makes people friendly, if that makes sense. P74, to me, is more like the cool guy everyone wants to hang out with. Like a band dude." > [@Mixes: P74 / IO / Ammo vs Pheroproof?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-p74-io-ammo-vs-pheroproof/3787/2): > > P74 seems more laid back to me. When I think of P74, I think of a guy in a collared shirt and jeans, top few buttons unbuttoned, relaxing at a party. He’s not really badass in any way, just cool and fun. Pheroproof seems to be more ‘on’ than p74, but not in the same way that Instant shine is ‘on’ When I think of PP, I think of the guy who’s personality entertains the room in a cool way(not the standup comedian way) with many girls looking at him, wishing he would just talk to them. He’s lo… perronec (May 21, 2007): “P74 seems more laid back to me. When I think of P74, I think of a guy in a collared shirt and jeans, top few buttons unbuttoned, relaxing at a party. He’s not really badass in any way, just cool and fun” > [@Mixes: P74 / IO / Ammo vs Pheroproof?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-p74-io-ammo-vs-pheroproof/3787/13): > > My ears perked up when you said she was way cooler than you, but was still into you with [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/). I’ve been feeling that P74 makes me into the cool guy. Cool people tend to only like other cool people, so would you agree? Were you wearing any others mones? Flipcat (May 27, 2007): “My ears perked up when you said she was way cooler than you, but was still into you with P74. I’ve been feeling that P74 makes me into the cool guy. Cool people tend to only like other cool people, so would you agree? Were you wearing any others pheromones?” > [@Mixes: P74 / IO / Ammo vs Pheroproof?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-p74-io-ammo-vs-pheroproof/3787/14): > > hi -yes i was wearing a complex mix… but i do think i have a good feel for p 74 and agree that it will contribute to a mellow cool guy vibe. (not sure that cool ppl ‘only like other cool people’). PheroQuirk (May 27, 2007): “hi -yes i was wearing a complex mix… but i do think i have a good feel for p 74 and agree that it will contribute to a mellow cool guy vibe. (not sure that cool ppl ‘only like other cool people’).” [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/17) Flipcat (June 1, 2007): "My perception is that P74 takes others view you as “cool”. That’s the simple version. When I first used it, it also made me much chattier and more socially forward. I felt “disinhibited”, like it had many of the positives of a good drink. In closed spaces, I notice something else, it makes me sort of tired and relaxed. Sometimes too relaxed in a really small space like my car. Even though I view it as sort of the “cool” pheromone, it may achieve that by being a a selective relaxant or disinhibitor. Thinking a litle more about this… It’s definitely a “mellow” cool, not a “this guy is going to take me on his motorcycle at 180mph” danger type of cool, if that makes sense. It’s laid back, and it may be attractive for that reason. People are stressed out a lot in their lives, and they don’t need friends or lovers who are going to add to that." > [@How Do You Know Your Pheromones Are Working?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-know-your-pheromones-are-working/3898/4): > > Tisha has a great system, using on people she knows the behavior of as a baseline. The cop thing is great, too. Cops just don’t do that. That’s really unusual. I think a lot of us will attribute the truly unusual events like that to pheromones we may be wearing, and I think that’s generally OK. Not as good as having a baseline, but really… a copy apologizing? That’s just weird and uncalled for. slight_smile With me, I notice them working when I get responses to me that are unusual. P74 kinda… Flipcat (June 1, 2007): “With me, I notice them working when I get responses to me that are unusual. P74 kinda makes it like I’m the cool, hang out dude in the band, and I haven’t experienced that in YEARS. (since I was a cool guy in a band!) That just knocks my socks off. It’s so different from pheromones and my normal experience without pheromones” ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2007, 10:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/4 "2007-08-18T10:49:01Z")
I didn’t meet anyone interesting or anyone who bothered to stop and let me talk to them yesterday. Not the [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/)’s fault really. I went to this event in the city and not many people went there actually. tonight I’ll reuse it and actually I know people talk where I’m going, so that should work much better 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/5 "2007-08-18T17:13:30Z")
Greatly useful compilations, as I said 1000 times 😉. Anyone knows anything about androtics officially adding some p79 or p74 to some of the line products or releasing them as a standalone line product? We were talking about that topic some time ago and haven’t heard from that since then. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2007, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/6 "2007-08-18T17:29:16Z")
No idea but I’m testing tonight 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2007, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/7 "2007-08-18T21:31:39Z")
Here’s the experiment. I was wearing the following: 7x 2.5mcg P74 on front and side of neck 1xMx102 2 sprays [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) on back of neck 1 spray DKNY Be Delicious on neck.. 1/2 hr later 1 spray on chest & 1 spray on wrist Once I got there I saw a guy stand behind me like he wanted to tell me something but was shy to do it. Some people talked to me but I didn’t see anything out of the ordinary. I sat next to a young woman (24?) who seemed a bit nervous with me next to her… Later I spoke to a number of people, including a young female friend. Soon afterwards I was approached by a woman (probably 28 in age). She even wanted to know what I would be doing afterwards… Ended up exchanging numbers with her too 🙂 So I guess the mix was ok. I was concerned that the Mx102 would evaporate due to the heat (it was very hot).. I think it may have done so actually.. I hope to fine tune this mix… ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/8 "2007-08-18T22:28:13Z")
Great review! ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2007, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/9 "2007-08-19T02:14:14Z")
Many thanks, Visionary, for making these compilation posts. This one inspired me to dig the bottle of p74 from the back of the cabinet. I wore 20 mcg on my hair today, with 2 sprays of [my basecoat mix](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-basecoat-approach/4425) to my chest and groin. My observations today are consistent with the major themes in this thread. Got some good attention from 3 waitresses and 2 shop attendants and a couple of fellow shoppers. All female. It was relaxed and friendly. All in all a nice addition to the mix. In the future I’m going to have to deal with a couple of female executives at work, and I’m wondering how this will work in a work environment. I might team it with some a314 to give a serious and competent edge. Still considering that though. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2007, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/10 "2007-08-19T07:08:26Z")
> [@capone](#): > > Great review! thanks! I’ll be trying again in a few days 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2007, 11:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/11 "2007-08-19T11:13:52Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy Thanks for the kind of words people; guys keep us updated on any results with the putatives, the more people report them, the quicker we will understand them. Now it is time to showcase the ‘empathetic’ effects of P74… > [@New Oriental Pheromone Cologne?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-oriental-pheromone-cologne/322/13): > > Hmm . . . I was actually 1/2 joking about tossing in the putatives. After thinking about this a bit more I would like to have these putatives with your upcoming oriental fragarence: Mix of p74 and p75 - p75 has a very strong sense of “magnetisim” with the opposite (female) sex. Couple that with the very strong boyfriendish connection/empathy that p74 seems evoke, and you may have a very powerful mix. Of course arriving at the perfect ratio of the two (provided that the two are compatable a… SwingerMD (April 30, 2006): “Couple that with the very strong boyfriendish connection/empathy that p74 seems evoke” [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #11 by tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/11) tacitus (July 8, 2006): “Strong P74 around 100-150 mu I’m getting remarkable social results with P74 when the dosage is upped… either alone or put into mixes… at higher levels it really opens up converstaion and approacability… in a not so Alpha Androstenol way, not so romantic, more hyper-empathetic…” [P74: "I just came back to CHAT!!!"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-i-just-came-back-to-chat/2439/5) PheroQuirk (March 11, 2007): “P74=warm, mellow, empathetic vibe if i remember right about my use in isolation. hang out and chat” [Initial Impressions of P74 - #2 by Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/2) Nunya (March 29, 2007): "In any case, almost 2 hours in - people are still pretty chatty in a “super-top secret” sort of vibe. P74 to me is more beta-nolish thanp93. I’m really impressed with UB - she’s almost warm and polite. Even in the strategy meeting today, her body language was one of actually being engaged in the meeting, which is rare. The meeting itself was pretty good today - not the rah rah go team attitude of yesterday - more empathetic, and full of mutual respect. As for me - I’ms till feeling a little buzz, and strangely i’m seeing coronas from time to time when I look at things. I’m also finding myself not wanting to talk, because it’s difficult for me to focus on conversations, whilst others want to have long conversations. interesting. perhaps not the best bet for my particular job, but should at a little something interesting socially, when i have time to just focus on being social." ["nesting" pheromones, or how to encourage intimacy and bonding - #13 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nesting-pheromones-or-how-to-encourage-intimacy-and-bonding/3344/13) PheroQuirk (May 10, 2007): Re: “nesting” [pheromones](https://a314.com/), or how to encourage intimacy and bonding “I enthusiastically second Rbt’s suggestion of P74 and would also suggest EST. 74 goes with everything and seems to help reconcile components that would otherwise pull in different directions” [Mixes: P74 / IO / Ammo vs Pheroproof?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-p74-io-ammo-vs-pheroproof/3787) PheroQuirk (May 21, 2007): “P74 seems to me to be the closest I have seen to pheroproof , but the nuances are different. PP doesn’t have the empathetic aspect that P74 seems to bring for me” ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 11:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/12 "2007-08-20T11:04:37Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy As well as the other beneficial things P74 brings to the table, we have just seen above that P74 is definitely something that enhances empathy. The other big empathogen on the pheromone block is Estratetraenol (colloquially known as Est ). Our experienced users, in their wisdom, have been regularly comparing P74 and Est as well as combining them with good effects. I guess Androtics could put out a product combining the two calling it Instant Empathy or something (though I do not know if they could legally do that given Erox’s patent on Est ). High doses of the two pheromones might be a useful replacement for some of the empathogenic drugs going around nightclubs if PheroQuirk’s MDMA mention is to be taken seriously… [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #49 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/49) PheroQuirk (July 16, 2006): “P74 seems to be have a little bit of similarity to how i have observed people behave after ingesting mdma - come here and give me a hug, i just feel so comfortable with you.” [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #81 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/81) PheroQuirk (August 6, 2006): “P74 and EST seem to be good (when combined with a regular balanced mix inc A314 and Shine) at creating a cool vibe amongst men and women alike. You are a relaxed, charismatic presence - lovely guy/mature, powerful yet not intimidating and people smile, want to get to know you, invite you to parties. And I think this stays with them - it’s not like an OD of some of the simpler mixes where if you see someone again without it they are in a different state and it’s as if your interaction with them previously had never reached the level it did and they feel at some level puzzled about why they behaved that way towards you” [Speculation: what's next - #5 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/speculation-whats-next/1812/5) PheroQuirk (January 29, 2007): “EST is not cheap (particularly at the 25mcg + dose I have found interesting results with when experimenting), but it opens a whole new section in the phero library. Tacitus is probably the EST-king… I have yet to combine EST with mind machines” > [@What works: "WILD" PARTIES (as opposed to more low-key general social events)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-wild-parties-as-opposed-to-more-low-key-general-social-events/222): > > Okay, I figure I’d start some threads aimed at SPECIFIC topics, and ask for SPECIFIC recommendations. Please post your BEST products/applications/mixes that you have developed for “WILD” PARTIES (as opposed to more low-key general social events discussed elsewhere) Please post things that have worked, not just idle speculation. Not limited to Androtics products only. Please note possibly pertinent information such as ages (yours and “targets”/“test subjects”), environment, etc. And do what … PheroQuirk (March 28, 2007): "Quote: Originally Posted by Rbt Okay, I figure I’d start some threads aimed at SPECIFIC topics, and ask for SPECIFIC recommendations. Please post your BEST products/applications/mixes that you have developed for “WILD” PARTIES (as opposed to more low-key general social events discussed elsewhere) Please post things that have worked, not just idle speculation. Not limited to Androtics products only. Please note possibly pertinent information such as ages (yours and “targets”/“test subjects”), environment, etc. And do what would you think if your mix (or someone elses mix) were turned into a general room diffuser-dispensed product? (eg the Oust fan.) There should be some P74 and EST there. Maybe TAA or TAC too." [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #13 by tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/13) tacitus (July 8, 2006): “OTOH I’ve also observed that good old EST will add a super friendly, approachable, initmate vibe to the proceedings… EST is like a powerful sweetener… I’ve seen women literally get up and start dancing around saying the most outrageous uninhibited stuff in the presence of EST and P74… hard to believe we are looking at millionths of a gram here…” [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #54 by tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/54) tacitus (July 21, 2006): “EST on the other hand is a flat out empathogen, people can feel understanding and well understood and at ease, sometimes so at ease they forget to censor their behavior…” > [@before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/62): > > P74 + EST could be too much of a good thing… the TAC may have had a stabilizing influence though… at times like these a squeech of a drying pheromone like P78 might firm things up… you might try a touch of P80 too.. it adds some basic depth to the vibe, just a hint, like you might add a bit of black walnut extract to enrich a vanilla flavor… we have so many more putatives to sort through… tacitus (July 23, 2006): “P74 + EST could be too much of a good thing…” `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/pheros-ever-got-you-laid-3792-2.html#post43561` tacitus (May 6, 2007): “EST will really deepen the communication aspects during sex, P74 is excellent in this direction as well” [Favourite Two/Three Mix Combos](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favourite-two-three-mix-combos/1602/3) Scottie2Hottie (January 16, 2007): “I’ve also had good results w/ P74 (~ 20 mu) + EST (\< 1 mu)” [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #87 by Scottie2Hottie](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/87) Scottie2Hottie (January 17, 2007): “I can vouch for the P74 + EST combo…even w/out the A314 or [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/).” [P74: "I just came back to CHAT!!!"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-i-just-came-back-to-chat/2439) Jasmin (March 9, 2007): "Soo… P74 turned my SO into the chattiest, talkiest, gabbiest little thing. He said he thought this was way more comforting than Estratetraenol, and that he feels really good, and that all he wants to do is talk to us" [Calming, soothing, relaxing anti-PMS pheros - #14 by Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/calming-soothing-relaxing-anti-pms-pheros/2627/14) Jasmin (March 22, 2007): "PMS Pheros: - P74 (for me. Warm, social, hang-outty) - TAA - Androstadienone - Estratetraenol (though I’m phasing that out since I like P74 a little more. Less “womb” like, more on the feet) There’s actually a mess of putatives I suspect are great for female feelings, but I haven’t tested them out enough yet." ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 11:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/13 "2007-08-20T11:24:33Z")
RE this invited to parties thing… well to add to my account I did get invited to go to a bar or restaurant with a group in fact…😃😃 ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2007, 1:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/14 "2007-08-23T13:22:41Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy Yes P74 can not only help one to be invited to parties but this putative appears to be in its element in enhancing interactions between other people as well. Parties and any kind of group activity are socially enhanced in a unique way. Indeed this effect can even occur when the P74wearer is not personally involved as is evidenced by the first pasted post below from PheroQuirk… [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #12 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/12) PheroQuirk (July 8, 2006): " Instant Best Girlfriend I need to isolate exactly which components drive this effect, but on two occasions now I seem to have created an intense bonding between two girls who were around me (part of the group - one was into me, one wasn’t). I would guess that the catalyst is one or more ofTAL, [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/), P74, P79. Aha - how funny. I just noticed [tacitus]?s post above and I think it’s clear this results in part from the hyper-empathetic aspect of theP74 mega dose. Think I used 50 Microgram (though by [tacitus] standards, that’s probably just a top-up boost I suppose it makes sense that copulins and TAL could contribute to breaking down barriers and that, just as with a none Pharmacodynamics , a girl might attribute the pheromones to the most dominant girl nearby. Now that we are aware of this, it will be interesting to direct conversations along ways that exploit these aspects. Would love to play with some NLP patterns but I guess thats not necessary to learn more about this ‘circuit’. How long-lived do you find this pheromone to be?" [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #16 by tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/16) tacitus (July 8, 2006): "… Quote: Originally Posted by PheroQuirk also with regard to P79, EST, P74 - how directed have you found their impact to be? P79 seems to be attributable to the wearer. P74 so far seems to be more background music that changes the vibe. That’s a good deliniation…P74 is a holistic togetherness feeling… “lets all go out to dinner” … P79 has a indentity statement thing about it…" [A314 at l-s](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-l-s/525/20) itwow (August 1, 2006): “…P74 - promotes camaraderie & cohesiveness…” [What works: "WILD" PARTIES (as opposed to more low-key general social events)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-wild-parties-as-opposed-to-more-low-key-general-social-events/222) PheroQuirk (March 28, 2007): "Quote: Originally Posted by Rbt Okay, I figure I’d start some threads aimed at SPECIFIC topics, and ask for SPECIFIC recommendations. Please post your BEST products/applications/mixes that you have developed for “WILD” PARTIES (as opposed to more low-key general social events discussed elsewhere) Please post things that have worked, not just idle speculation. Not limited to Androtics products only. Please note possibly pertinent information such as ages (yours and “targets”/“test subjects”), environment, etc. And do what would you think if your mix (or someone elses mix) were turned into a general room diffuser-dispensed product? (eg the Oust fan.) There should be some P74 and EST there. Maybe TAA or TAC too." [Initial Impressions of P74 - #15 by Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/15) Jasmin (March 30, 2007): “…Party mix = lots of TAH! And P74. Little TAL.” [P74, P79, P83, P88 - #24 by Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p83-p88/4440/24) Kitten (August 2007): “…P74: Really good for groups and relaxing to everyone, good for getting people to agree with each other even when they start out with differences. Kind of a limited application, but effective within that scope. (Regarding your experience, Lor, I am wondering if you and your friend both fed on each others’ anxiety. There is a certain groupthink aspect I’ve noticed with P74, but I’ve never had it go negative on me.)…” ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 2:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/15 "2007-08-24T14:15:59Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) may not be the best thing to wear when you don’t have the time or inclination for energetic social interactions: [P74 - Good for everything?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469) Jasmin (March 12, 2007): “From what I’ve seen with my own eyes, the only negative might be the time you could need for social interactions. I’m not sure P74 is really appropriate unless you have time to hangout and bond” [P74 - Good for everything? - #16 by Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469/16) PheroQuirk (March 25, 2007): “I love P74 - and Steveo was on the mark with regard to the energetic aspects. I’s prob too much for an office environment most of the time though. I only apply at night.” [Initial Impressions of P74 - #2 by Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/2) Nunya (March 29, 2007): "In any case, almost 2 hours in - people are still pretty chatty in a “super-top secret” sort of vibe. P74 to me is more beta-nolish thanp93. I’m really impressed with UB - she’s almost warm and polite. Even in the strategy meeting today, her body language was one of actually being engaged in the meeting, which is rare. The meeting itself was pretty good today - not the rah rah go team attitude of yesterday - more empathetic, and full of mutual respect. As for me - I’ms till feeling a little buzz, and strangely i’m seeing coronas from time to time when I look at things. I’m also finding myself not wanting to talk, because it’s difficult for me to focus on conversations, whilst others want to have long conversations. interesting. perhaps not the best bet for my particular job, but should at a little something interesting socially, when i have time to just focus on being social." [EST - uplift and bonding for men only? - #3 by PepeInLosAltos](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-uplift-and-bonding-for-men-only/4555/3) PheroQuirk (July 11, 2007): "Quote: Originally Posted by PepeInLosAltos I’ve been researching, but not trying much so far. I’m waiting for my big order to come in. From the forums, it seems that TAA is the primary ingredient in Shine, while -nols invoke diarrhea of the mouth. I’m looking to EST as something that encourages emotional bonding in a social forum, more “I like being here with you” than “Aren’t you just so much fun?”, more cuddly than chatty. Having analyzed tacitus’ posts, TAA and -nols may not be ideal for quiet environments. P74 too." ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/16 "2007-08-26T02:37:19Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy A few more posts I found confirming [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) 's usefulness in groups and its useful fun, mellow coolness/popularity enhancing property. That Kitten is becoming a favourite poster of mine with her clear insights and cute avatar to boot… [pheromones and children - need your help](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-children-need-your-help/4174/3) Kitten (June 17, 2007): “Bet P74 would be great for your situation. I notice wonderful group dynamics when I wear it. Not exactly a mind meld; rather, individual contributions to a group goal. Fabulous for chilled out, happy teamwork.” [New to MX135, Sexy and P74: how often to re-apply, and which shouldn't go together? - #11 by Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help/4273/11) Kitten (June 25, 2007): “P74=Instant popularity. A personal favorite. You can fit in anywhere with anyone wearing this putative. Helps teamwork and uplifts any group dynamic. Gives you a cool, fun presence” Eslite119 (June 25, 2007): “P74, however, is a great product. P74 has a bit of self-effect as well as making you this cool guy. At 30-50 mcgs, conversations flow smoothly and people approached me from various directions (male and female). If I were to choose between P74 and P79, I’d definately go for P74.” ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/17 "2007-08-26T03:28:31Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy And P74 may help to not only make one popular with members of our own species, but may help to make friends in the animal kingdom as well - what more could you want? [Pheromones effect on pets](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-effect-on-pets/897/4) tacitus (November 16, 2006): “mixed a little P74 and TAA to mellow out an old GF went over to her place and sprayed some P74/ TAA in the air while she was in another room… the plan was to lighten her mood so we could not be soo dense with each other… she has a small dog who began sniffing the air with intense curiosity then looked at me with big love eyes which seemd to be well dilated… she (girlfriend) was in a very good mood soon too… maybe the dog associated those pheromones with the alpha members being in a good mood… which then triggered him into a good mood… Pavlov remains with us…” [P74 + P92 Makes Stray Cats Cuddly :)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p92-makes-stray-cats-cuddly/3838) Matthew24 (May 24, 2007): “P74 + P92 Makes Stray Cats Cuddly Well… i was walking home today and little to my suprise my naighbor had to stray cats near his driveway i walked passed the cats they didnt seem to care then a few seconds later i seee one of the cats rolling on the floor waiting to be cuddled with and one of the cats rubbing there heads upon my legg it was sooooooooo cuteee… Stray cats are normally scared of big guys like me im like 5.11 so i would expect them to stay away but after whiffing my pherosignature they saw a friendly aura around me!. Try it around other pets and tell us about it pheromones and pets might have a big connection!!!” [Got some feedback](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-some-feedback/3859) 9ks2k (May 26, 2007): “so I decided to wear some p74 on chest, wrist, sides of neck like 3 sprays total . also a dab of ammo behind each ear. didnt want to much just wanted to test out p74 more by itself. also small spray of very sexy on chest. i was wearing an open button up shirt cause it was hot today i was sitting across the couch from her but the fan was on above us so that help. Her moms FEMALE dog was GOING crazy and at one point came up to me and wanted to be pet. The girls like shes never like this with guys she always trys to bite them. I was like “I guess i have my way with women?” the dog deff was being effected by the ammo” [P74 + P92 Makes Stray Cats Cuddly :)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p92-makes-stray-cats-cuddly/3838/4) 9ks2k (May 26, 2007): “i just had a dog get crazy and cuddly today over a girls house. she said her dog doesnt normaly like guys. i was wearing p74 and ammo” ---
**Author:** ![bighead1221](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@bighead1221](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bighead1221)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/18 "2007-08-26T04:15:34Z")
hmmm, p74 is gonna be my next purchase…I’m still kinda new to the world of pheros though. I really had to experiment with each of my products to figure out how they’d affect me. It might not even work at all with me. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 11:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/19 "2007-08-27T11:38:04Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy bighead, yeah pheromones just give you an edge and might not always work for you as they do for others. If they don’t do that much for you, improve yourself. Read PheroQuirk’s, tacitus’ and many other quality posters’ posts on self-improvement on this forum, follow their suggestions and I guarantee you the pheromones will be more ‘effective’ for you over time. Now back to regular P74 programming. There is also P74’s usefulness in enhancing communication/empathy during sex and romantic relations. Furthermore we have its use as a ‘softener’ to pheromones like Androstenone and P83. It is the maestro, tacitus, who supplies all the posts in this bundle… [Pheros ever got you laid? link not found] tacitus (May 6, 2007): “…EST will really deepen the communication aspects during sex, P74 is excellent in this direction as well…”? [Replacement for NPA? - #39 by tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/replacement-for-npa/492/39) tacitus (July 28, 2006): "When it comes to raw sex, androstenone still rules having said that, androstenone and some of the putatives aren’t all that desirable for most other interactions… and a certain percentage of the population is highly sensitive to the odor of androstenone and is repulsed by it… at levels that I cannot smell…good advice is to have your -none handy for when you need it, have something else for your social efforts… As for raw sex and all that merriment… a good shot of TAA, 100 mu is fine, and a good shot of P74, another 100 mu, and some AlphaAndrostenol can let you get away with simply obscene levels of androstenone in sexuous contexts which will have lots of empathy and feeling and touchyness and raw uninhibited 5 thrusts per second ass slapping bunni rabbit go go go sex too…" [1 week of p83 - #10 by tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1-week-of-p83/1928/10) tacitus (February 12, 2007): “Pure pheromeoes and balanced mixes can be drastically different I think this is because pheromones and para-pheromones must appear in nature in complex bundles, like green tea has caffeine AND theanine which synergize to form a third effect… I’m constantly studying how “softeners” like P74, Estratatraenol, Alpha Androstenol and Alpha-Androsterone, (and to my mind P86, others may prefer TAK) and my old fave response modifier, IsoE-Super, will allow something like P83 to emerge as a “note” instead of an overload…” [A novel P81/P89 experience](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-novel-p81-p89-experience/1705) tacitus (January 21, 2007): “A novel P81/P89 experience I added these two in to my standard sexmix brew… noticed something both cool and unusual… aside from the expected great sex… we sort of entered “old settled relationship mode” with a feeling of having been with each other and coexisted through thick and thin for ages… now, granted, I’ve known this girl for a good six or seven years but we’ve never been together in an LTR mode… although we have always had good rapport, never any major disagreements… she’s part native american, 50%… and I know Amerind girls… and they aren’t exactly simple creatures, media fantasies about dancing with wolves or dancing with with primal energies notwithstanding… so I dose up with this (by now) pretty damn complex pheromone mix, and I’ve never given it a shot with either P81 or P89 so I think, what the heck, let’s take this for a spin… so we’re nekkidly nude, hanging out, greasing each other up, and yes, getting aroused (like, doh) but also shooting the breeze, a sitting around on the porch on a June evening mood, very solid, grounded… she even felt physically very solid to my hands, almost like we were made of old pieces of wood or something, and we’re having this really good, solid, muscular, earth sex then hanging out, with this solid sense of being with each other… almost the diametric opposite of the dilated eye, spacey romance of Alpha Androstenol , a wholly different sort of connectedness… to which I’m thinking… hmmmm… yeah… there a lot of women who badly need this firm footed grounded mood to rest their emotive states of mind…especially when you have the estratatraenol/P74/Alpha Androstenol pink cloud of love goddess thing turned loose…” ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 1:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/20 "2007-08-27T13:08:34Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy P74 (with other ‘friendly’ molecules) is not only useful for ‘softening’ Androstenone (or high-dose P83) but brings a real useful fun, social vibe even to the seriousness of high-dose A314 (2 drops or more)/MX102/MX105 (2 sprays or more). Sigma for one is a firm believer in ‘anchoring’ P74 with some A314 (or an A314-like mix such as MX105)… > [@A314, p74 and shine on a quiet girl, ITS GOLD](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p74-and-shine-on-a-quiet-girl-its-gold/3388): > > one of my fraternity brothers has a girlfriend. Unfortunately she has a crush. and its on me. and its because (primarily) of P74. i was also wearing A314 and shine together without p74 with some minor hits for part of the night. But once i applied the P74, it went into hyper drive. I’ve suspected his girlfriend had a small thing for me before, but she would never make a move. Tonight was different. With the p74 applied, she just had to be touching me, whether it was hugging or holding … perronec (April 28, 2007): "one of my fraternity brothers has a girlfriend. Unfortunately she has a crush. and its on me. and its because (primarily) of P74. i was also wearing A314 and shine together without p74 with some minor hits for part of the night. But once i applied the P74, it went into hyper drive. I’ve suspected his girlfriend had a small thing for me before, but she would never make a move. Tonight was different. With the p74 applied, she just had to be touching me, whether it was hugging or holding my arm and putting her head on my shoulder. She would stand in between my legs slowly getting closer and closer to my crotch, and i would have to get up to avoid a big situation…BECAUSE HER BOYFRIEND WAS IN THE ROOM WITH US. When i did get up to leave she litterally tried to pull me back. Shes not a big girl (4’11"), and shes pretty skinny, so i imagine she was pulling with all her might. I couldn’t beleive it. once i politely freed myself from her grasp, i just up and left the room, because i wouldn’t do anything with my friends girlfriend. but anyways, amazing hit. the mix(in chronological order): 7PM) 2.5 drops of A314 to the neck area 9PM) 6 sprays of Instant Shine 11PM) 1 more spray of Instant Shine added later to the face and arms 1PM) 50mcg of p74 from my sample bottle that i got free from androdics, THANKS JASMIN." > [@A314, p74 and shine on a quiet girl, ITS GOLD](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p74-and-shine-on-a-quiet-girl-its-gold/3388/8): > > Yeah, i think that was the key to my success that night. The A314(rone) and the p74. perronec (May 1, 2007): “Yeah, i think that was the key to my success that night. The A314(Androsterone) and the p74.” > [@Only P74 and P79 upgraded from putative to pheromone: do they really work?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-and-p74/3443/12): > > i’ve had some pretty good results mixing 2 drops of A314 with 50mcgs of [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/). This seems to cover the effect you are looking for. I’ve never tried p79, but its definitely on the list for my next order, along with mx200 perronec (May 7, 2007): “i’ve had some pretty good results mixing 2 drops of A314 with 50mcgs of P74. This seems to cover the effect you are looking for” > [@I want cannonballs of sexy.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-cannonballs-of-sexy/3707/12): > > I’ve had some great results with A314(mx102), shine and p74. Big fun and cool. who wouldn’t like that guy?:cool:cool Here is my post about it [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p74-and-shine-on-a-quiet-girl-its-gold/3388](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p74-and-shine-on-a-quiet-girl-its-gold/3388) perronec (May 17, 2007): "I’ve had some great results with A314( mx102 ), shine and p74. Big fun and cool. who wouldn’t like that guy?" > [@Mixes: P74 / IO / Ammo vs Pheroproof?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-p74-io-ammo-vs-pheroproof/3787/9): > > I have tried it with A314 a bunch, sometimes with some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) (TAA) thrown in. The A314 and P74 complement each other quite nicely, and the Shine amplifies peoples reactions to it as it brings about more lighthearted conversation. neither P74 nor A314 seem to work in a head snapping fashion, but with shine, people hang around longer, and thus have more time for the former two to really start to effect them. The combonation of these 3 is one of my favorite daytime mixes perronec (May 22, 2007): "I have tried P74 with A314 a bunch, sometimes with some Instant Shine ( TAA ) thrown in. The A314 and P74 complement each other quite nicely, and the Shine amplifies peoples reactions to it as it brings about more lighthearted conversation. neither P74 nor A314 seem to work in a head snapping fashion, but with shine, people hang around longer, and thus have more time for the former two to really start to effect them. The combonation of these 3 is one of my favorite daytime mixes" > [@P74 is NOT what i expected](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-is-not-what-i-expected/2704/3): > > good stuff miss lor. Your results seem very consistent with mine actually. I know what you mean about feeling antsy and wanting to move ‘but not gracefully’…what you say about lacking focus is right on key for me. At higher doses I’m fired up and all over the place, which is good to some extent, but can be excessive. Worst part is I didn’t really notice it until I looked at my night in retrospect. Women probably could pull high doses of this stuff better than men could. It definitely warr… sigma (March 24, 2007): "good stuff miss lor. Your results [with P74] seem very consistent with mine actually. I know what you mean about feeling antsy and wanting to move ‘but not gracefully’…what you say about lacking focus is right on key for me. At higher doses I’m fired up and all over the place, which is good to some extent, but can be excessive. Worst part is I didn’t really notice it until I looked at my night in retrospect. Women probably could pull high doses of this stuff better than men could. It definitely warranted a bit of A314 to sort of ‘anchor’ the effects a bit…something to slow it down and give it a little more self-awareness. But that may be more of a male insight. People wanting to be in your personal space seems to be the primary benefit to others. It creates a strong social presence…enhanced of social attention and magnetism. My WIP clubbing mix thrives on this type of social positioning. With the addition of P74, even the people who hang around me notice the increased (sexual) attention that I’ve been getting. Good stuff" > [@P74 - Good for everything?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469/10): > > A314 is a good counter-point to [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/)…or perhaps P74 is a good counter-point to A314. P74 is socially very light. Very much an attention grabber. Creates a whole lot of social magnetism, but is also very socially ‘up in the air’. Spacey, socially careless, maybe a little too open at times. Its a little sexual and edgy…makes women kind of adore you. A314 is very socially heavy. Smooth, sophisticated…has a profound impact on people when you’re around. At high doses its very anti-social. A31… sigma (March 25, 2007): "A314 is a good counter-point to P74…or perhaps P74 is a good counter-point to A314. P74 is socially very light. Very much an attention grabber. Creates a whole lot of social magnetism, but is also very socially ‘up in the air’. Spacey, socially careless, maybe a little too open at times. Its a little sexual and edgy…makes women kind of adore you. A314 is very socially heavy. Smooth, sophisticated…has a profound impact on people when you’re around. At high doses its very anti-social. A314 should be used with P74 at a very subtle amount…for me a single spray of MX102 -togo. A314 will very easily over-power P74 at high doses…high doses of A314 seem to overpower everything actually (as I noticed when I wore 3 drops of mutant to a wedding last week). A314 seems to work well at ‘anchoring’ P74, and slowing it down a bit. Where P74 can make you socially careless (too fired up), A314has a tendency to make you more socially aware and more self-aware. I think a slight amount of A314 ads just the right amount of masculinity to P74. Socially drawn to you, with the smooth sexiness of A314." > [@What works: "WILD" PARTIES (as opposed to more low-key general social events)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-wild-parties-as-opposed-to-more-low-key-general-social-events/222/6): > > Sigma here. 23 years old in my last year of college. Needless to say, I do my fair share of wild partying and clubbing. At any rate, I’ve found that in these settings its ideal to have a lot of highly attention grabbing and energetic pheromones. A good mix that makes you stand out in a saturated crowd. The mixes work well when they’re in high doses that scrape just below an OD threshold, and implement a well balanced selection of pheromones that ‘fit’ a sexy-social image. When you get this… sigma (March 27, 2007): "At any rate, my current party mix (which I’m constantly trying to improve upon) looks like this: 25 mcg P79 25 mcg P74 10 mcg Turn Up The Heat 20 mcg TAA \*3 sprays [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) Test pack Series Togo (preferably MX147) \*2 sprays A314 Test Pack Series Togo (preferably MX105) Very heavy mix and highly complex, but each element serves a distinct, well thought-out and tested purpose. Its been working very well and very consistently for me so far. It creates A LOT of attention, and people really start to center around you. Women really seem fascinated by this, and its created all sorts of opportunities for me (some I took advantage of, some I didn’t lol)" > [@P74 - Good for everything?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469/19): > > I think for guys sometimes you can be a bit too fun. Being fun is good, but it can work against you if you go overboard and seem to lose your composure. This is what happened to me when I wore a high dose of [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and got drunk. A pinch A314 is a good anchor though. Keeps you more consciously aware of yourself, while allowing others to react positively to the P74. As for the boyfriend effect…I’ve seen some evidence of this myself. Women seem to get very clingy when I wear this stuff out (as … sigma (April 5, 2007): "I think for guys sometimes you can be a bit too fun. Being fun is good, but it can work against you if you go overboard and seem to lose your composure. This is what happened to me when I wore a high dose of P74 and got drunk. A pinch A314 is a good anchor though. Keeps you more consciously aware of yourself, while allowing others to react positively to the P74" > [@p74 test](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-test/3221/2): > > My experience was with a 12.5mcg per spray togo bottle. 25Mcg was ideal for me…any higher than that and it got excessive…as in waaaaaay too socially amped up. I placed an order for a full-sized bottle early this week, so I’ll be testing more thoroughly when it gets here. The attraction it builds is quite awesome though. Makes women very clingy (boyfriend effect?). For me it works well with a dash of A314, to anchor the effects. try it out pairs really well with IFM too. [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/)+IFM+A314 have… sigma (April 19, 2007): “For me P74 works well with a dash of A314, to anchor the effects. try it out” > [@Only P74 and P79 upgraded from putative to pheromone: do they really work?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-and-p74/3443/5): > > A314 + [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) + P79 + TAA good stuff sigma (May 1, 2007): "A314 + P74 + P79 + TAA good stuff" > [@Only P74 and P79 upgraded from putative to pheromone: do they really work?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-and-p74/3443/7): > > 2 drops A314 20Mcg [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) 25Mcg P79 20Mcg TAA sigma (May 2, 2007): “2 drops A314 20Mcg P74 25Mcg P79 20Mcg TAA” [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136.md?page=2)