# P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person' vibe, and empathy **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 17, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136 "2007-08-17T15:43:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![bighead1221](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@bighead1221](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bighead1221)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/41 "2007-09-05T20:38:05Z")
I just got the 10 mcg per spray this morning. I sprayed 3 sprays with no other pheros and no cologne and went to school. I was having a huge headache for about an hour. I didn’t notice any effects except that. It got to the point where I felt like hitting myself in the head with something. I had that at first with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) too, but it wasn’t this bad. I don’t normally have headaches, I don’t have any allergies that I know of, so I just assumed that it was the P74, I’ll try it again tomorrow and see how I do. ---
**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/42 "2007-09-05T21:37:23Z")
Hiya It’s very strange seeing your stuff being quoted back. But I noticed that someone said that perhaps the effects I get from [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) in a professional setting might be linked to my area of work. I’m going to try to keep this as non-identifying as possible - for no other reason than safety on the internet we never know who is reading this and there are a few mighty strange folk out there. I specialise in Geopolitics. In particular current Western Geopolitical views and systems. It can be a bit cut-throat and doesn’t generally pull its punches. It’s also less dull than it sounds. 🙂 Looks-wise. I’m average, middle-aged and slim-build. Nothing to write home about 🙂 I do however, have a blood group that is fairly rare in the West. I’m B+. It’s much more common in Asia and Russia but only about 8 per cent (ish) in the West. There is some Asian or Russian blood in my background, but it’s more than five generations ago and we haven’t been able to trace it yet. May ---
**Author:** ![alpha314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alpha314/32/2027_2.png) [@alpha314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alpha314)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/43 "2007-09-05T22:54:46Z")
I am fairly sensitive to the effects of various pheromones on my self in a very pronounced manner at times. Say i have not been using A314 for a few weeks then if i decide to apply about 3 drops with one of these being on my neck front then i usually get a really bad case of Fatigue several hours later. But find no problem once i start using it on a regular basis. But i had no trouble with the 25 mcg P74 i was wearing on my chin yesterday for the first time. RE P74 it could in my opinion also be described as pheroproof ( in name only ) as its effects so far have stood out like dogs balls. I thought Androstenone and A314 was a smooth popularising mix for me as a favourite. But the P74 really seems to produce friendly sexy smiles from the Asian girls when used with my usual Androstenone 1 drop + classic fragrance at 6 drops. But i bid not mix the P74 into the mix of None and fragrance, as i added a spray to the back of my hand on the first trial, where i was discreetly fanning it across the table with a paper napkin in the direction of my China girl guest. And the next morning with my Asian interveiw i used it on my chin alone. and just sprayed the Anone + classic cologne on my biceps. By the way i am also trying to find out how Raw Power stacks up against some of the other big boys in terms of reliable quality and purity, if anyone has opinion would sppreciate.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 9:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/44 "2007-10-26T09:01:04Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Socrates > > Yes P74 can not only help one to be invited to parties but this putative appears to be in its element in enhancing interactions between other people as well. Parties and any kind of group activity are socially enhanced in a unique way. Indeed this effect can even occur when the P74 wearer is not personally involved as is evidenced by the first pasted post below from PheroQuirk (I have personally seen this ‘Instant Best Girlfriend effect’ happening quite a few times around me after I had put on some P74 )… > > [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #12 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/12) > PheroQuirk (July 8, 2006): > "Instant Best Girlfriend > > I need to isolate exactly which components drive this effect, but on two occasions now I seem to have created an intense bonding between two girls who were around me (part of the group - one was into me, one wasn’t). I would guess that the catalyst is one or more of TAL, Lust After Me, P74, P79. > > Aha - how funny. I just noticed [tacitus]'s post above and I think it’s clear this results in part from the hyper-empathetic aspect of the P74 mega dose. Think I used 50 mcg (though by [tacitus] standards, that’s probably just a top-up boost > > I suppose it makes sense that copulins and TAL could contribute to breaking down barriers and that, just as with a none OD, a girl might attribute the pheromones to the most dominant girl nearby. > > Now that we are aware of this, it will be interesting to direct conversations along ways that exploit these aspects. Would love to play with some NLP patterns but I guess thats not necessary to learn more about this ‘circuit’. > > How long-lived do you find this pheromone to be?" > > [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #15 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/15) [link not found but here is the original post] > tacitus (July 8, 2006): > "… > Quote: > Originally Posted by PheroQuirk > > also with regard to P79, EST, P74 - how directed have you found their impact to be? P79 seems to be attributable to the wearer. P74 so far seems to be more background music that changes the vibe. > > That’s a good deliniation…P74 is a holistic togetherness feeling… “lets all go out to dinner” … P79 has a indentity statement thing about it…" > > [A314 at l-s](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-l-s/525/20) > itwow (August 1, 2006): > “P74 - promotes camaraderie & cohesiveness” > > [What works: "WILD" PARTIES (as opposed to more low-key general social events)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-wild-parties-as-opposed-to-more-low-key-general-social-events/222) > PheroQuirk (March 28, 2007): > "Quote: > Originally Posted by Rbt > Okay, I figure I’d start some threads aimed at SPECIFIC topics, and ask for SPECIFIC recommendations. > > Please post your BEST products/applications/mixes that you have developed for > > “WILD” PARTIES (as opposed to more low-key general social events discussed elsewhere) > > Please post things that have worked, not just idle speculation. Not limited to Androtics products only. > > Please note possibly pertinent information such as ages (yours and “targets”/“test subjects”), environment, etc. > > And do what would you think if your mix (or someone elses mix) were turned into a general room diffuser-dispensed product? (eg the Oust fan.) > > There should be some P74 and EST there. Maybe TAA or TAC too." > > [Initial Impressions of P74 - #15 by Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/15) > Jasmin (March 30, 2007): > “Party mix = lots of TAH! And P74. Little TAL.” > > [P74, P79, P83, P88 - #24 by Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p83-p88/4440/24) > Kitten (August 2007): > “P74: Really good for groups and relaxing to everyone, good for getting people to agree with each other even when they start out with differences. Kind of a limited application, but effective within that scope. (Regarding your experience, Lor, I am wondering if you and your friend both fed on each others’ anxiety. There is a certain groupthink aspect I’ve noticed with [P74], but I’ve never had it go negative on me.)” Some more support for this ‘lets all get along effect’ that [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) seems to push in its own empathetic, highly social kind of way… Mature Mix NancysBoy (October 2007): “…P74 - magnetism conversation initiator reduces competitiveness…” ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/45 "2008-01-08T20:24:41Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > > At least to some people’s noses, P74 may need to be covered because of its scent. Ms. Laurie describes the putative as having a ‘BO undertone’ while Mr. Smoothplayer describes it smelling like a ‘strong shot of some liquor’… > > [P74 is NOT what i expected - #5 by LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-is-not-what-i-expected/2704/5) > LaurieNY (March 24, 2007): > "Re: P74 is NOT what i expected > > I noticed a definite BO undertone to this stuff, too. I’m not roadtesting it again without a cover scent. > > People were a bit chatty at work, but our department secretary had just returned from a two-week trip and she and I are close, so that long conversation probably would have happened anyway? Needs more testing." > > ["nesting" pheromones, or how to encourage intimacy and bonding - #10 by Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nesting-pheromones-or-how-to-encourage-intimacy-and-bonding/3344/10) > LaurieNY (May 10, 2007): > "Quote: > I just got some P74 in my last order and have only given it one test wearing around a target (wore it once as a self-test as well in case of adverse reactions). Will be testing further as opportunities arise. > > Such a fun molecule, Rbt! Cover it, though; it has a significant BO undertone (overtone?)"? > > `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/womens-pheromone-advice-tips-tricks/family-annoyance-toward-phero-related-smells-4718-2.html#post51364` [link not found] > LaurieNY (June 27, 2007): > “Actually, I do smell the pheromones under the neroli in MX139, and P74 is even worse (I never wear that one without a cover) and I think that turned her off to neroli, but I could be wrong” > > [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/30) > smoothplayer (June 2, 2007): > "I tried 1 spray of the to-go sized P74 today… and the effects were awesome! It definitely gave me that “coolness” vibe. A lot more respect from guys. Girls seemed a little intimidated to be honest, and I don’t think I seemed approachable. I was also wearing a spray ofAmmo and a spray of CTTM. But I could feel the difference from P74. It was like I had some higher social status. > > P.S… P74 smells terrible for a pheromone. It smells like alcohol (the alcohol you drink), but much stronger smell. Like a strong shot of some liquor. I don’t mind the smell that much, it’s just that it’s very different from what I’m used to for pheromones." Tater also doesn’t like the smell of P74… [The "MAD TATER" Journal - #446 by MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/446) MadisonTate (January 2008): "Deep Thought #941. Tater has noticed several posts about the scent of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), A314 and others. You guys need to composite. About the only phero that doesnt smell completely nasty is EST. The androstenols are somewhat bearable, but otherwise you’re just asking for it. Tater admits to being more fragrance-sensitive than most, but it all REEKS. As for copulins (Dirty), I wouldve sliced my own hand off to get rid of that stuff, but androstenone, androstadienone, even androsterone are overwhelmingly funky. P74 seems worst of all. And now that its been mentioned a few times by others, yes i do pick up the scent of sour milk with A314. I never could place what the odor was, but thats pretty close…the smell of cold, bad milk. Which leads me to the next deep thought…" [further mx103 testing, confusing results...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/further-mx103-testing-confusing-results/7971/21) MadisonTate (January 2008): “And MX102 doesnt smell GREAT either. Its like Mr. T’s jock strap. And P74 would be like Mr. T’s thong underwear…” ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/46 "2008-01-08T20:32:46Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > > There has been some controversy about the duration of P74?s effects. After a bit of experimenting I tend to think it may last a solid 5 hours or even more (although the effects do taper off a bit). It definitely isn’t as fast diffusing as ?fugitive? molecules like TAA and Alpha-Androstenol but not as slow diffusing as Androstenone. Here is what some of the forum testers found… > > [how long does p74 last?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-p74-last/3479/3) [link not found] > PheroQuirk (May 20, 2007): > “P74 seems to me to be more volatile than Androsterone or none for example. maybe 3-4 hours before the effect drops off.” > > [buffered/slow release P74](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/buffered-slow-release-p74/4051) > PheroQuirk (June 10, 2007): > " buffered/slow release P74 > > would this be a possibility? sometimes it is a pain to have to keep reapplying throughout the evening. maybe P74 oil would be effective." > > [how long does p74 last?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-p74-last/3479/2) > Rbt (May 19, 2007): > "Quote: > Originally Posted by Matthew24 > how long does p74 last after application? > > I just recently started playing with it, but I suspect it would be about the same as other spray pheromones. About 4 to 6 hours. (Oil based like A314 can supposedly last around 12 hours.) > > Just my opinion." > > [how long does p74 last?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-p74-last/3479/4) > Matthew24 (May 20, 2007): > “it seemed to last A LONG time yesterday from 1pm-1am ofcourse the effects dropped during there but it also affected me since it was on my neck i felt the lovely warm feeling all day. This thing is gold the friendship it builds is quite awesome” > > [Duration of P74](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/duration-of-p74/4931/3) > May (August 2007): > "In my personal experience [P74] lasts at least five hours probably longer. That might be just me and due to my chemistry though. I can say this because the stuff has such a marked and visible effect on those around me - that it is easy to spot if their “I want to be with you” impulse has worn off. It was still there - admittedly it might have been a little less potent but still very much there - five hours after application, just before I left and did stuff alone. > > May" I agree with SteveO’s post and particularly Journey’s post below about [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) - the effects do remain for me even after more than 4 hours, even though I can become more adjusted to them so don’t always notice… > [@P74: A Rush Of Love Without Tangible Evidence Hate Persists!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-rush-of-love-without-tangible-evidence-hate-persists/6730): > > Yeah I know my titles are a bit eccentric, but so am I. Jasmin asked me to test P74 over the last few days and being that she has those over powering NLP tricks and that lovely Jasmin seduction [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) working over the phone she convinced me without much apprehension. So my tests started on Thursday and this report will include up until last night. I will say that I am not nearly finished with this unique and interesting molecule. I have a 30 Ml bottle unscented 30 mcg per spray. I starte… SteveO (November 18, 2007): “…Effects last about 4-5 hours for me with a massive come down at the end. My brain was tired…” > [@P74 Review](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-review/7902/4): > > 12.5 mcg’s I also forgot to add how long the self effects last. On me, they last about 3 hours with the “intense” feeling, and about an additional hour or a little over an hour without the “intense” (perhaps “really noticeable” is a better phrase) feeling. Like, the effects really “smooth out” before they leave, and I’m not really sure if they left, or perhaps I become adjusted to them ,and the effects really are over after 3 hours and I just continue them. Don’t know yet. Thanks Shap! ~J… Journey (January 2008): "12.5 mcg’s I also forgot to add how long the self effects last. On me, they last about 3 hours with the “intense” feeling, and about an additional hour or a little over an hour without the “intense” (perhaps “really noticeable” is a better phrase) feeling. Like, the effects really “smooth out” before they leave, and I’m not really sure if they left, or perhaps I become adjusted to them ,and the effects really are over after 3 hours and I just continue them. Don’t know yet. Thanks Shap! ~Journey" ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/47 "2008-01-08T20:53:55Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > > Now lets take a look at that mellow ?cool person? vibe that users have reported a lot of when wearing P74 ? > > [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #81 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/81) > PheroQuirk (August 6, 2006): > “P74 and EST seem to be good (when combined with a regular balanced mix inc A314 and Shine) at creating a cool vibe amongst men and women alike. You are a relaxed, charismatic presence - lovely guy/mature, powerful yet not intimidating and people smile, want to get to know you, invite you to parties. And I think this stays with them - it’s not like an OD of some of the simpler mixes where if you see someone again without it they are in a different state and it’s as if your interaction with them previously had never reached the level it did and they feel at some level puzzled about why they behaved that way towards you?” > > [Pheromone Arousal - #37 by m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-arousal/1768/37) > m3turbo (April 30, 2007): > “[P74] seems to sort of give off a cool person vibe. It seems to make people think “hey this guy knows where the party is at.” It is very interesting, I think because so many women will judge you based on your social status is why this is making my mixes so much more effective. I have not used it by itself though so I can’t say for sure but when I added it to my mixes I started getting way more hits.” > > [Pheromone Arousal - #39 by m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-arousal/1768/39) > m3turbo (May 1, 2007): > “I have never used come CTTM so I can’t compare but P74 is slightly different than any reaction I have gotten from the nols. People don’t flock around you like I guess they are supposed to with CTTM. It is like an admirable androstenol. Like A314 but cooler and more approachable. So you are pretty accurate with your CTTM A314 reference.” > > [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/4) > Flipcat (May 1, 2007): > "Yeah, it’s friendly, but I like this variation of friendly more than something like Instant Openness or CTTM when used alone. > > It’s more like it makes you into a guy people want to be friendly with, rather than stuff you spray on that makes people friendly, if that makes sense. P74, to me, is more like the cool guy everyone wants to hang out with. Like a band dude." > > [Mixes: P74 / IO / Ammo vs Pheroproof? - #2 by perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-p74-io-ammo-vs-pheroproof/3787/2) > perronec (May 21, 2007): > “P74 seems more laid back to me. When I think of P74, I think of a guy in a collared shirt and jeans, top few buttons unbuttoned, relaxing at a party. He’s not really badass in any way, just cool and fun?” > > [Mixes: P74 / IO / Ammo vs Pheroproof? - #13 by Flipcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-p74-io-ammo-vs-pheroproof/3787/13) > Flipcat (May 27, 2007): > “My ears perked up when you said she was way cooler than you, but was still into you with P74. I’ve been feeling that P74 makes me into the cool guy. Cool people tend to only like other cool people, so would you agree? Were you wearing any others pheromones?” > > [Mixes: P74 / IO / Ammo vs Pheroproof? - #14 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-p74-io-ammo-vs-pheroproof/3787/14) > PheroQuirk (May 27, 2007): > “hi -yes i was wearing a complex mix… but i do think i have a good feel for p74 and agree that it will contribute to a mellow cool guy vibe. (not sure that cool ppl ‘only like other cool people’).” > > [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/17) > Flipcat (June 1, 2007): > "My perception is that [P74] takes others view you as “cool”. That’s the simple version. > > When I first used it, it also made me much chattier and more socially forward. I felt “disinhibited”, like it had many of the positives of a good drink. In closed spaces, I notice something else, it makes me sort of tired and relaxed. Sometimes too relaxed in a really small space like my car. Even though I view it as sort of the “cool” pheromone, it may achieve that by being a a selective relaxant or disinhibitor. > > Thinking a litle more about this… It’s definitely a “mellow” cool, not a “this guy is going to take me on his motorcycle at 180mph” danger type of cool, if that makes sense. > > It’s laid back, and it may be attractive for that reason. People are stressed out a lot in their lives, and they don’t need friends or lovers who are going to add to that." > > [How Do You Know Your Pheromones Are Working?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-know-your-pheromones-are-working/3898/4) > Flipcat (June 1, 2007): > “With me, I notice them working when I get responses to me that are unusual. P74 kinda makes it like I’m the cool, hang out dude in the band, and I haven’t experienced that in YEARS. (since I was a cool guy in a band!) That just knocks my socks off. It’s so different from pheromones and my normal experience without pheromones?” > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > P74 and Magnetism. Sigma provides the bulk of the posts here with very nice detailed descriptions of the social magnetism that P74 helps to create (which can easily turn into something more than ‘social’ as we saw in the first post of this thread )… > > [Most magnetic pheromones for men?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-magnetic-pheromones-for-men/3796) > Jasmin (May 22, 2007): > " Most magnetic pheromones for men? > > What do you guys feel are the most magnetic pheromones? Pheromones that draw people to you, and keep 'em around? > > I’m thinking P74, TAA, and a little TAH." > > Sigma (May 22, 2007): > Re: Most magnetic pheromones for men? > > P74, Taa, Tal, P93, Est > > Nunya (May 27, 2007): > "wow - i’d have to say it depends on context and your audience, and possibly personal congruity as well. > > For me the most magnetic have been Alpha Androstenol, and TAL and P79 all with a dash of cops. I disappear with TAH. P74 seems really good for women - but i feel distracted trying to keep up with the conversation" > > Kitten (May 31, 2007): > Hmmm…Magnetic… > Instant Sexiness > Instant Shine > P74 > TAH > Light Copulins (in addition to those already in Instant Sexiness) > Heavy Androstenol like in Scent of Eros Woman > If you mixed Instant Sexiness A (keeping whatever TAL is in there but not increasing it), with some Instant Shine or TAA, lots of P74,some TAH, and upped the copulins and androstenol a bit, you might get something pretty magnetic. Especially if you gave it a really faint carmalized scent. We ladies could add cops to taste, so to speak. Just my 2 cents on the stuff I have used. (Ordered EST and that may prove magnetic as well. Ve shall see. ) > > [P74 is NOT what i expected - #3 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-is-not-what-i-expected/2704/3) > Sigma (March 24, 2007): > “People wanting to be in your personal space seems to be the primary benefit [of P74] to others. It creates a strong social presence…enhanced of social attention and magnetism. My WIP clubbing mix thrives on this type of social positioning. With the addition of P74, even the people who hang around me notice the increased (sexual) attention that I’ve been getting. Good stuff” > > [P74 - Good for everything? - #10 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469/10) > Sigma (March 25, 2007): > “P74 is socially very light. Very much an attention grabber. Creates a whole lot of social magnetism, but is also very socially ‘up in the air’. Spacey, socially careless, maybe a little too open at times. Its a little sexual and edgy…makes women kind of adore you?” > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > P74 may not be the best thing to wear when you don’t have the time or inclination for energetic social interactions? > > [P74 - Good for everything?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469) > Jasmin (March 12, 2007): > “From what I’ve seen with my own eyes, the only negative might be the time you could need for social interactions. I’m not sure P74 is really appropriate unless you have time to hangout and bond?” > > [P74 - Good for everything? - #16 by Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469/16) > PheroQuirk (March 25, 2007): > “I love P74 - and Steveo was on the mark with regard to the energetic aspects. I’s prob too much for an office environment most of the time though. I only apply at night.” > > [Initial Impressions of P74 - #2 by Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/2) > Nunya (March 29, 2007): > "In any case, almost 2 hours in - people are still pretty chatty in a “super-top secret” sort of vibe. P74 to me is more beta-nolish than p93. I’m really impressed with UB - she’s almost warm and polite. Even in the strategy meeting today, her body language was one of actually being engaged in the meeting, which is rare. The meeting itself was pretty good today - not the rah rah go team attitude of yesterday - more empathetic, and full of mutual respect. As for me - I’ms till feeling a little buzz, and strangely i’m seeing coronas from time to time when I look at things. > I’m also finding myself not wanting to talk, because it’s difficult for me to focus on conversations, whilst others want to have long conversations. > > interesting. perhaps not the best bet for my particular job, but should at a little something interesting socially, when i have time to just focus on being social." > > [EST - uplift and bonding for men only? - #3 by PepeInLosAltos](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-uplift-and-bonding-for-men-only/4555/3) > PheroQuirk (July 11, 2007): > "Quote: > Originally Posted by PepeInLosAltos > I’ve been researching, but not trying much so far. I’m waiting for my big order to come in. From the forums, it seems that TAA is the primary ingredient in Shine, while -nols invoke diarrhea of the mouth. I’m looking to EST as something that encourages emotional bonding in a social forum, more “I like being here with you” than “Aren’t you just so much fun?”, more cuddly than chatty. > > Having analyzed tacitus’ posts, TAA and -nols may not be ideal for quiet environments. > > P74 too." > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > P74 tends to make people want to hang around the wearer for longer so it can easily buy you more time? > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > > [P74 - Good for everything?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469) > Jasmin (March 12, 2007): > “From what I’ve seen with my own eyes, the only negative might be the time you could need for social interactions. I’m not sure P74 is really appropriate unless you have time to hangout and bond?” > > [P74 is NOT what i expected - #5 by LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-is-not-what-i-expected/2704/5) > LaurieNY (March 24, 2007): > " Re: P74 is NOT what i expected > > I noticed a definite BO undertone to this stuff, too. I’m not roadtesting it again without a cover scent. > > People were a bit chatty at work, but our department secretary had just returned from a two-week trip and she and I are close, so that long conversation probably would have happened anyway? Needs more testing." > > [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/27) > perronec (June 1, 2007): > "Due to the fact that I usually use it in mixes i was never sure which parts were p74, but i had an Idea as I added each part of the mix one at a time. > > People opened up about parts of their lives they thought were cool and interesting without me provoking them to talk about them.Teachers spend more time going over things they like instead of classwork. Stories about a persons day become more detailed and interesting. > > It seems to bring a cool comfort to the conversation." > > [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/34) > bubblebob (September 2007): > “I understand P74 as the she-wants-to-be-around-you pheromone, because you give off this cool, fun vibe. Where you take it from there is in your hands. It just opens up more possibilities and more time.” Support from Rattlesnake on some of the earlier themes from people’s experiences with P74: increased magnetism towards to the wearer, can end up using up large lengths of time/energy due to the socialising (can be distracting at work), detailed ‘fun’ conversations, very friendly and chatty vibe, etc… [I know I said I wasnt going to but I did it anyway!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-know-i-said-i-wasnt-going-to-but-i-did-it-anyway/8114) Rattlesnake (January 2008): "Hi folks, hope the new year is going well for all. In one of my previous posts I had said that I would be leaving off the experimental stuff for a while, at least until I’d figured out the mainline products. I guess temptation got the better of me. Also, one of the reasons I was wanting to stop was because my last couple of mixes didnt seem to be working out at all and I was beginning to get fustrated. Anyhoo, I tested out P74 on its own. 10 mcg strength bottle, one direct blast to the chest Went in to work as usual, now one of my colleagues whose the grumpy sort lightened up. This guy is usually very serious, you’d have a hard time making him laugh, seems to live life like its one long funeral or something. Well, I guess you imagine my suprise when he actually lightened up a fair bit. Not saying he was swinging naked from the light fittings or anything but he was quite relaxed chilled out and fun to talk to. He laughed a lot more that was usual (usual being nothing). He also made far more excuses to come see me, since I’ve been using A314 he’s upped the frequency of visits but these seem far more prolonged. At home time, he kept making excuse after excuse to stick around (beginning to annoy the hell outta me cos I wanted to finish off some stuff I was doing). He literally went to leave 4 times but then decided to stay. Not sure how to analyse this but perhaps this phero makes you feel like your having fun and I guess we were up to a point when he started to distract me. I guess he attached that feeling of fun to me and kept coming back for more. Also, there was far more attention given to me, the man in question fancies himself as the alpha male of the group and tries to dominate conversations but now he kinda hung on every word. Definately a social phero, my previous mixes confirm this. Unfortunately, I havent had the chance to test on any females and I’m cautious about trying this stuff at work since I wont be doing any bloody work! I definately think this stuff needs to be added to [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) Mix 2, in my opinion it would definately help it stay true to its name. Anyway thats my 2 cents on P74 Rattle" ---
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Thank you very much for all this valuable work, Vis 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/49 "2008-01-09T09:35:27Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > Yes keep us updated of your findings Mr. Phoenix. > > Now lets take a look at that mellow ‘cool person’ vibe that users have reported a lot of when wearing P74… > > [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #81 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/81) > PheroQuirk (August 6, 2006): > “P74 and EST seem to be good (when combined with a regular balanced mix inc A314 and Shine) at creating a cool vibe amongst men and women alike. You are a relaxed, charismatic presence - lovely guy/mature, powerful yet not intimidating and people smile, want to get to know you, invite you to parties. And I think this stays with them - it’s not like an OD of some of the simpler mixes where if you see someone again without it they are in a different state and it’s as if your interaction with them previously had never reached the level it did and they feel at some level puzzled about why they behaved that way towards you”? > > [Pheromone Arousal - #37 by m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-arousal/1768/37) > m3turbo (April 30, 2007): > “[P74] seems to sort of give off a cool person vibe. It seems to make people think “hey this guy knows where the party is at.” It is very interesting, I think because so many women will judge you based on your social status is why this is making my mixes so much more effective. I have not used it by itself though so I can’t say for sure but when I added it to my mixes I started getting way more hits.” > > [Pheromone Arousal - #39 by m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-arousal/1768/39) > m3turbo (May 1, 2007): > “I have never used come CTTM so I can’t compare but P74 is slightly different than any reaction I have gotten from the nols. People don’t flock around you like I guess they are supposed to with CTTM. It is like an admirable androstenol. Like A314 but cooler and more approachable. So you are pretty accurate with your CTTM A314 reference.” > > [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/4) > Flipcat (May 1, 2007): > "Yeah, it’s friendly, but I like this variation of friendly more than something like Instant Openness or CTTM when used alone. > > It’s more like it makes you into a guy people want to be friendly with, rather than stuff you spray on that makes people friendly, if that makes sense. P74, to me, is more like the cool guy everyone wants to hang out with. Like a band dude." > > [Mixes: P74 / IO / Ammo vs Pheroproof? - #2 by perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-p74-io-ammo-vs-pheroproof/3787/2) > perronec (May 21, 2007): > “P74 seems more laid back to me. When I think of P74, I think of a guy in a collared shirt and jeans, top few buttons unbuttoned, relaxing at a party. He’s not really badass in any way, just cool and fun” > > [Mixes: P74 / IO / Ammo vs Pheroproof? - #13 by Flipcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-p74-io-ammo-vs-pheroproof/3787/13) > Flipcat (May 27, 2007): > “My ears perked up when you said she was way cooler than you, but was still into you with P74. I’ve been feeling that P74 makes me into the cool guy. Cool people tend to only like other cool people, so would you agree? Were you wearing any others pheromones?” > > [Mixes: P74 / IO / Ammo vs Pheroproof? - #14 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-p74-io-ammo-vs-pheroproof/3787/14) > PheroQuirk (May 27, 2007): > “hi -yes i was wearing a complex mix… but i do think i have a good feel for p 74 and agree that it will contribute to a mellow cool guy vibe. (not sure that cool ppl ‘only like other cool people’).” > > [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/17) > Flipcat (June 1, 2007): > "My perception is that [P74] takes others view you as “cool”. That’s the simple version. > > When I first used it, it also made me much chattier and more socially forward. I felt “disinhibited”, like it had many of the positives of a good drink. In closed spaces, I notice something else, it makes me sort of tired and relaxed. Sometimes too relaxed in a really small space like my car. Even though I view it as sort of the “cool” pheromone, it may achieve that by being a a selective relaxant or disinhibitor. > > Thinking a litle more about this… It’s definitely a “mellow” cool, not a “this guy is going to take me on his motorcycle at 180mph” danger type of cool, if that makes sense. > > It’s laid back, and it may be attractive for that reason. People are stressed out a lot in their lives, and they don’t need friends or lovers who are going to add to that." > > [How Do You Know Your Pheromones Are Working?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-know-your-pheromones-are-working/3898/4) > Flipcat (June 1, 2007): > “With me, I notice them working when I get responses to me that are unusual. P74 kinda makes it like I’m the cool, hang out dude in the band, and I haven’t experienced that in YEARS. (since I was a cool guy in a band!) That just knocks my socks off. It’s so different from pheromones and my normal experience without pheromones” > > [New to MX135, Sexy and P74: how often to re-apply, and which shouldn't go together? - #11 by Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help/4273/11) > Kitten (June 25, 2007): > “P74=Instant popularity. A personal favorite. You can fit in anywhere with anyone wearing this putative. Helps teamwork and uplifts any group dynamic. Gives you a cool, fun presence” > > [First Purchase After Lot of Research..Can I Get Comaprative Opinion?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-after-lot-of-research-can-i-get-comaprative-opinion/4288/8) > Eslite119 (June 25, 2007): > “…P74, however, is a great product. P74 has a bit of self-effect as well as making you this cool guy. At 30-50 mcgs, conversations flow smoothly and people approached me from various directions (male and female). If I were to choose between P74 and P79, I’d definately go for P74.” According to the posts by SteveO and TRDE59 pasted in below, P74 seems to have a strong confidence aspect to it related to the feeling of ‘natural charisma’ it brings along with it. For me its almost like an ‘Instant Social Magic’-type effect where the pheromone does much of the work for you in social situations. This feeling of ‘power’ may also be to do with feeling like the ‘cool guy’ as opposed to most of the other [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) which don’t really give so much credit to the wearer as P74 may give… [P74: A Rush Of Love Without Tangible Evidence Hate Persists!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-rush-of-love-without-tangible-evidence-hate-persists/6730) SteveO (November 18, 2007): "P74: A Rush Of Love Without Tangible Evidence Hate Persists! Yeah I know my titles are a bit eccentric, but so am I. Jasmin asked me to test P74 over the last few days and being that she has those over powering NLP tricks and that lovely Jasmin seduction pheromones working over the phone she convinced me without much apprehension. So my tests started on Thursday and this report will include up until last night. I will say that I am not nearly finished with this unique and interesting molecule. I have a 30 Ml bottle unscented 30 mcg per spray. I started by wearing at first one spray (30 mcg) to gauge my self effects. I noticed almost instantaneously that I had a big smile. It was as if my lips were puckering up almost as if about to kiss. It was more than that though, there was something in my minds eye screaming power! I can’t really explain it just that I was thinking power, but not as world domination, but more in the line with world seduction. I was calm and yet focused on how to be successful with women. Very interesting thoughts that played out throughout my entire experiment. I would have thought this self-affect would have diminished as time progressed, but it wasn’t to be. The power and feeling as if I was on top of my seduction game was there throughout. Maybe it would have been different if my game was chess or dominoes, but my game is seduction and that is what I felt most connected to. Somehow I knew there was a connection between P74 and my passion. The interesting thing that did happen on Thursday was that when I went to Waly World to pick up some groceries I was absolutely driven to accomplish my goal. I was also up to 90 mcg at this stage. I was charged with getting what I needed and getting out of the store. Whenever I’m in a big store environment I can’t help but scope out other stuff not on my list and spend way more time than necessary. There were some missed opportunities because I just didn’t have the time (and yet I wasn’t rushed at all) to stop and venture into the social aspect. I could feel those around me as if I carried an aura of charismatic diplomacy turning heads catching eye contact and wanting to interact but I was on my mission and by all things Pink and Squishy, nothing was going to deter me. Strange now that I reflect back through my journal I see an inference that I went to my Happy Market where they only hire hot babes. Weird that I don’t remember anything from it just a note that blond babe was working and gave me very strong eye contact. I write: “She went out of her way to greet me. It wasn’t your typical Store Name greeting it was the kind they reserve for when the manager is next to them. She was blond HB8 the one with the straight hair and big boobs but wearing baggy clothes like normal. Damn girl! I’ll have to chat with her about those baggy clothes. She remembers my fling with Cody and asked if I’ve spoken to her. We talk about how she’s doing and how I miss her. She gives me the old aww that’s so cute. I hate when girls do that. I couldn’t help noticing her baby blues and how she wouldn’t stop making bedroom eyes. She was staring, but I needed to go.” Like I said from my journal I know exactly who she is, but all the same don’t remember that. Oh well there’s always next time. The strangest thing was that by the time I got home I was completely frazzled like all the energy was drained from me. There was nothing left in me and as such I needed a nap. A long nap so I took one. I also noticed that everyday that after a good four to five hours of use I got very tired. I was driven to get whatever I was doing done, but when I was done I was done mentally and physically. During the next couple of days I failed at inputing anything into my journal, but from what I remember everything was hyper drive and crazy. I managed to mentally challenge myself to focus on conversations with people. Holly molly some serious conversations erupt like a volcano, spewing charisma and charm like they were hot molten lava and boulders. I talked with a friend of mine forever and it was deep stuff too. There was such a content feeling that everything was OK and right. The only thing that I didn’t like about my testing is that I never got to test it sexually or really much more than one friend and a few strangers. One girl I met at Chilli’s was intriguing. It was like I could tell she was more underneath than her surface would allow her to expose. After talking for what seemed to be hours (it was deep like hours, but in reality about 15 minutes) her boss came over and said their were people waiting to be seated. She was the hostess. My friends conversations with me were in retrospect kind of boring. We just chatted about this sarge or that field report, but typical crap and yet it seemed to have been so much more. In summary a very social conversation pheromones that adds depth to yourself and others digging its presence into the psyche and creating a determined mindset to accomplish greatness. Effects last about 4-5 hours for me with a massive come down at the end. My brain was tired. I can see why Jasmosisinator asked me to test this molecule. Very nice little molecule that I will continue to test for a few more days. Strange, normally after testing something and being away from my personal mixes I always yearn to get back to mixes, not with this one. I like it!" [P74: A Rush Of Love Without Tangible Evidence Hate Persists! - #7 by TRDE59](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-rush-of-love-without-tangible-evidence-hate-persists/6730/7) TRDE59 (November 20, 2007): "Good report, SteveO. Reps. I’ve noticed the same thing, although I’ve come nowhere near 90 mcgs. My highest dosage was using 37.5 mcgs. It’s a feeling of power, like you described, but a completely different kind of power than A314. Not a dominant “everyone will bow down to me” kind of power… But more like a confidence in yourself and your social abilities. You feel as though you have the ability to persuade people, make them happy, and be a genuinely good person to be around. Alas, I hate depending on phero self-effects, cause they’re always so short lived. Tolerance develops too quickly, but you’re right in that it lasts much longer than most self-effects do… interesting…" ---
**Author:** ![incubusattacks](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/incubusattacks/32/1259_2.png) [@incubusattacks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/incubusattacks)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 6:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/50 "2008-01-30T06:21:18Z")
Woohoo! I finally got [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) to work. I needed about 4 sprays to obviously see the effects. I definitely saw an “all eyes on me” effect, and the other girls in class kinda wanted to get to know me a bit more. ---
**Author:** ![Ralse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ralse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ralse)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 10:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/51 "2008-01-30T10:11:53Z")
> [@incubusattacks](#): > > I finally got P74 to work. I needed about 4 sprays to obviously see the effects. How many mcg plz? ---
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> [@incubusattacks](#): > > Woohoo! I finally got P74 to work. I needed about 4 sprays to obviously see the effects. I definitely saw an “all eyes on me” effect, and the other girls in class kinda wanted to get to know me a bit more. So how many mcg would that 4 sprays equal? I’m normally using 50 mcg and see good results from it. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/53 "2008-04-05T23:05:02Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > [P74 is NOT what i expected - #5 by LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-is-not-what-i-expected/2704/5) ; > LaurieNY (March 24, 2007): > "Re: P74 is NOT what i expected > > I noticed a definite BO undertone to this stuff, too. I’m not roadtesting it again without a cover scent. > > People were a bit chatty at work, but our department secretary had just returned from a two-week trip and she and I are close, so that long conversation probably would have happened anyway? Needs more testing." > > ["nesting" pheromones, or how to encourage intimacy and bonding - #10 by Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nesting-pheromones-or-how-to-encourage-intimacy-and-bonding/3344/10) > LaurieNY (May 10, 2007): > "Quote: > I just got some P74 in my last order and have only given it one test wearing around a target (wore it once as a self-test as well in case of adverse reactions). Will be testing further as opportunities arise. > > Such a fun molecule, Rbt! Cover it, though; it has a significant BO undertone (overtone?)" > > `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/womens-pheromone-advice-tips-tricks/family-annoyance-toward-phero-related-smells-4718-2.html#post51364` [link not found] > LaurieNY (June 27, 2007): > “Actually, I do smell the pheromones under the neroli in MX139, and P74 is even worse (I never wear that one without a cover) and I think that turned her off to neroli, but I could be wrong” > > [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/30) > smoothplayer (June 2, 2007): > "I tried 1 spray of the to-go sized P74 today… and the effects were awesome! It definitely gave me that “coolness” vibe. A lot more respect from guys. Girls seemed a little intimidated to be honest, and I don’t think I seemed approachable. I was also wearing a spray ofAmmo and a spray of CTTM. But I could feel the difference from P74. It was like I had some higher social status. > > P.S… P74 smells terrible for a pheromone. It smells like alcohol (the alcohol you drink), but much stronger smell. Like a strong shot of some liquor. I don’t mind the smell that much, it’s just that it’s very different from what I’m used to for pheromones." > > [P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person' vibe, and empathy - #27 by bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/27) > bubblebob (August 29, 2007): > “Hmm, I’m using unscented P74 and haven’t been able to detect a particularly bad smell from it. Of course the alcohol smells a bit strange at first, but as soon as it has dried down, there’s not much of a smell left (at least for my nose). But I’m not able to smell -none either, so I just might be smell-deaf ( ) for P74, too.” > > [The "MAD TATER" Journal - #446 by MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/446) > MadisonTate (December 29, 2007): > "Deep Thought #941. Tater has noticed several posts about the scent of Instant Female Magic, A314 and others. You guys need to composite. About the only phero that doesnt smell completely nasty is EST. The androstenols are somewhat bearable, but otherwise you’re just asking for it. > > Tater admits to being more fragrance-sensitive than most, but it all REEKS. As for copulins (Dirty), I wouldve sliced my own hand off to get rid of that stuff, but androstenone, androstadienone, even androsterone are overwhelmingly funky. P74 seems worst of all. And now that its been mentioned a few times by others, yes i do pick up the scent of sour milk with A314. I never could place what the odor was, but thats pretty close…the smell of cold, bad milk. > > Which leads me to the next deep thought…" > > [further mx103 testing, confusing results...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/further-mx103-testing-confusing-results/7971/21) > MadisonTate (January 5, 2008): > “And MX102 doesnt smell GREAT either. Its like Mr. T’s jock strap. And P74 would be like Mr. T’s thong underwear…” Some early posts I found from MHarris himself in which he describes P74 as having ‘a human musk scent’… [Estratetraenol - got another request. How much? - #16 by MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/estratetraenol-got-another-request-how-much/37/16) MHarris (November 21, 2005): “I don’t have the est, but I have the promised form of methoxy ( methoxyestratetraenone ), and another putative. The putative, in particular, has that human musk scent that is typical of most real human pheromones, so I have high hopes for it…” [Estratetraenol - got another request. How much? - #18 by MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/estratetraenol-got-another-request-how-much/37/18) MHarris (November 27, 2005): "If it was a test pheromone, I’d have some idea, and just wouldn’t tell you. But this is a phase 1 putative, so I truly have no ideawhatsoever. The fact that is smells human, though, is encouraging. I don’t have anything that smells human in my repertoire that doesn’t modify or effect behavior in some way. The caveat when looking for legitimate putatives is that there are several legitimate pheromones which definitely don’t smell human. Not to my nose, anyway, so I can’t always follow it - you still gotta test, test, test. Then test some more. In fact, one of the most powerful pheromones I’ve ever worked with doesn’t smell human one bit. If it wasn’t for the insistence on testing, I would’ve passed by it." [Estratetraenol - got another request. How much? - #28 by MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/estratetraenol-got-another-request-how-much/37/28) MHarris (February 27, 2006): "We’ve had [the putative] available for quite awhile. We’ll release it under the [Putative Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/) (PP) nomenclature. I’ll give the word to the web person now." [Estratetraenol - got another request. How much? - #29 by MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/estratetraenol-got-another-request-how-much/37/29) MHarris (February 27, 2006): “It’ll be PP74.” ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/54 "2008-04-06T01:59:45Z")
I suppose “Human Musk” describes it well. Lately, I haven’t really been able to wear anything with significant amounts of p74 because of the smell. It wrecks my clothes, and it stands out to the point of actively bothering me, which is a shame because I generally enjoyed the effects it provided. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 3:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/55 "2008-07-12T15:09:06Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy Some recent opinions on the scent of [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/)… > [@P74 Stand alone](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-stand-alone/14974/7): > > p74 is real good stuff, but it smells kinda odd to me. not like BO, but like something similar-ish. It took me a while to realize what I was smelling, but that was it. But I seemed to be the only one to ever notice it, and I always got good reactions from it. martyk (July 2008): “p74 is real good stuff, but it smells kinda odd to me. not like BO, but like something similar-ish. It took me a while to realize what I was smelling, but that was it. But I seemed to be the only one to ever notice it, and I always got good reactions from it.” [P74 Stand alone](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-stand-alone/14974) Jedi\_Nights (July 2008): “I ordered [P74] unscented and after the alcohol it dry’s odorless” ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/56 "2008-07-12T15:18:31Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > > Yes P74 can not only help one to be invited to parties but this putative appears to be in its element in enhancing interactions between other people as well. Parties and any kind of group activity are socially enhanced in a unique way. Indeed this effect can even occur when the P74 wearer is not personally involved as is evidenced by the first pasted post below from PheroQuirk (I have personally seen this ‘Instant Best Girlfriend effect’ happening quite a few times around me after I had put on some P74 )… > > [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #12 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/12) > PheroQuirk (July 8, 2006): > "Instant Best Girlfriend > > I need to isolate exactly which components drive this effect, but on two occasions now I seem to have created an intense bonding between two girls who were around me (part of the group - one was into me, one wasn’t). I would guess that the catalyst is one or more of TAL, Lust After Me, P74, P79. > > Aha - how funny. I just noticed [tacitus]?€™s post above and I think it’s clear this results in part from the hyper-empathetic aspect of the P74 mega dose. Think I used 50 mcg (though by [tacitus] standards, that’s probably just a top-up boost > > I suppose it makes sense that copulins and TAL could contribute to breaking down barriers and that, just as with a none OD, a girl might attribute the pheromones to the most dominant girl nearby. > > Now that we are aware of this, it will be interesting to direct conversations along ways that exploit these aspects. Would love to play with some NLP patterns but I guess thats not necessary to learn more about this ‘circuit’. > > How long-lived do you find this pheromone to be??€? > > [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #15 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/15) > tacitus (July 8, 2006): > "… > Quote: > Originally Posted by PheroQuirk > > also with regard to P79, EST, P74 - how directed have you found their impact to be? P79 seems to be attributable to the wearer. P74 so far seems to be more background music that changes the vibe. > > That’s a good deliniation…P74 is a holistic togetherness feeling… “lets all go out to dinner” … P79 has a indentity statement thing about it…" > > [A314 at l-s](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-at-l-s/525/20) > itwow (August 1, 2006): > “P74 - promotes camaraderie & cohesiveness” > > [What works: "WILD" PARTIES (as opposed to more low-key general social events)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-wild-parties-as-opposed-to-more-low-key-general-social-events/222) > PheroQuirk (March 28, 2007): > "Quote: > Originally Posted by Rbt > Okay, I figure I’d start some threads aimed at SPECIFIC topics, and ask for SPECIFIC recommendations. > > Please post your BEST products/applications/mixes that you have developed for > > “WILD” PARTIES (as opposed to more low-key general social events discussed elsewhere) > > Please post things that have worked, not just idle speculation. Not limited to Androtics products only. > > Please note possibly pertinent information such as ages (yours and “targets”/“test subjects”), environment, etc. > > And do what would you think if your mix (or someone elses mix) were turned into a general room diffuser-dispensed product? (eg the Oust fan.) > > There should be some P74 and EST there. Maybe TAA or TAC too." > > [Initial Impressions of P74 - #15 by Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/15) > Jasmin (March 30, 2007): > “Party mix = lots of TAH! And P74. Little TAL.” > > [P74, P79, P83, P88 - #24 by Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p83-p88/4440/24) > Kitten (August 2007): > “P74: Really good for groups and relaxing to everyone, good for getting people to agree with each other even when they start out with differences. Kind of a limited application, but effective within that scope. (Regarding your experience, Lor, I am wondering if you and your friend both fed on each others’ anxiety. There is a certain groupthink aspect I’ve noticed with [P74], but I’ve never had it go negative on me.)” > > Mature Mix > NancysBoy (October 2007): > “…P74 - magnetism conversation initiator reduces competitiveness…” More recent posts on P74 as the ‘cooperation pheromone’ as Kitten puts it… [P74 Stand alone](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-stand-alone/14974) Jedi\_Nights (July 2008): "1:30PM: Showed up at the local watering hole and a dozen or so of the Saturday regulars were there and only two women. The mood was rather quiet. What little conversation there was verged on the somberness of work, home and life problems. I went to the restroom and increased the application [of unscented P74] to 140mcgs! What the heck! Maybe I can OD. What happened next was really interesting. An automobile race was on the tube, not audible, and nobody watching it. So I figured that I was just going to chill out and expect a dull afternoon. The air-conditioner was on low and the doors are all closed and I?€™m sitting there with a beer in hand wearing 140mcgs of P74 upwind of just about everyone. About 15 minutes after I arrived, somebody fed the jukebox. As the silly little ditty from the early 50’s played, the guy next to me started singing along quietly to himself. I joined in for a couple of lines and then the other guy next to me got into it. Well our confidence was strengthened and we started singing louder. The barmaid, who was apparently a little upset about the whole situation shouted, “Hey! We don’t do Karaoke here!” at which time two more guys joined in! Then she finally broke out laughing. For the next four hours that jukebox didn’t get a rest as everyone took a turn at playing it and sometimes singing along. I’ve never seen this bunch have so much fun! And I think the jukebox made the owner more money than his beer sales today. But now my bottle is getting pretty low and I am torn between trying to confirm this type of behavior at a different watering hole or take it to work when management wants to have a serious all hands meeting." [P74 Stand alone - #5 by Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-stand-alone/14974/5) Kitten (July 2008): “I love it when pheromones turn real life into a movie scene. I’ve seen a similar effect with P74 at lower levels, even 40 mcg. It’s like the cooperation pheromone. I know it is amazing for meetings and group brainstorming. Bet it’d be swell for team sports too.” [P74 Stand alone - #8 by Jedi\_Nights](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-stand-alone/14974/8) Jedi\_Nights (July 2008): "Quote: Originally Posted by Kitten …It’s like the cooperation pheromone. … I think you nailed it, Kitten. Some sort of community bonder." ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2008, 10:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/57 "2008-08-03T10:46:51Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #11 by tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/11) > tacitus (July 8, 2006): > “Strong P74 around 100-150 mu > I’m getting remarkable social results with P74 when the dosage is upped… either alone or put into mixes… at higher levels it really opens up converstaion and approacability… in a not so Alpha Androstenol way, not so romantic, more hyper-empathetic…” According to tacitus and now idle, higher doses of [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) (100 mcg+) may really take things to a new level… [P74 & Meo-est results](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-meo-est-results/16799/2) idle (August 2008): "With P74 people are friendly because they see you as a cool/nice person. My observation is that it works more on Males rather then females. With a dosage above 100mcg people are begging to be your friend. When i use more than 100mcg at parties the next day people that dont know me.. ask the others: “who was that cool guy”.. lets invite him again and stuff like that. I am really started to get addicted to p74… I got my bottle 10 days ago and its only 50% left… i have to move at higher concentrations" ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 12:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/58 "2008-08-20T12:21:56Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > [P74 & Meo-est results](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-meo-est-results/16799/2) > idle (August 2008): > "?With P74 people are friendly because they see you as a cool/nice person. My observation is that it works more on Males rather then females. With a dosage above 100mcg people are begging to be your friend. > When i use more than 100mcg at parties the next day people that dont know me.. ask the others: “who was that cool guy”.. lets invite him again and stuff like that. > > I am really started to get addicted to p74… > I got my bottle 10 days ago and its only 50% left… > i have to move at higher concentrations" Again idle implies that [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/)’s effects may be particularly strong on males… [One word PUTATIVES Review(TAC,P74,TAF,TAA)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-word-putatives-review-tac-p74-taf-taa/17897) idle (August 2008): “P74 If called by one world it should be Instant COOL Guy. Be more accepted / liked by both males and females. With a dosage above 100mcg people are begging to be your friend (strongly affect males). It is easy to become friend with almost everyone you want. P74 can take down the seriousness in \>A314. You are still the business guy.. but with p74 you are the business guy thats cool. Great for buffering the negatives of Androstenone?” ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/59 "2008-09-19T12:25:46Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > > Just a hunch here based on my own experiences, but you may find that P74 works more consistently when it is combined with other ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’ as opposed to it being used alone. My experience has been that without these other ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’, the effects of P74 can be a little inconsistent - sometimes it really hits but often it doesn’t. At times, I may find myself not so social while others may be buzzing away (not necessarily to me but to each other). On the other hand when it is combined with other ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’, it hits pretty much every time, for both me and for others around me. > > Below are the positive experiences of some guys who combined P74 with various ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’ - nbully combined it with TAL for good effect, examine combined it with P79 and P90, and UltraGame combined it with CTTM-Mix 2 (which contains Alpha and Beta Androstenol of course). > > [TAL and P74 over an A314 base: more social than the -nols](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-p74-more-social-than-the-nols/3312) > nbully79 (April 24, 2007): > "TAL and P74 - More social than the -nols > I am shocked at how much better these make me feel compared to Alpha Androstenol or beta- Androstenol …never a dull moment with these! 1 spray of TAL (5 mcg) and 2-3 sprays of P74 (25-30 mcg) over A314 + The Edge + PF base…can’t keep my wisecracking mouth shut! Added Instant Openness 2X around 3 sprays to it (around 50 mcg) and it was seriously over-the-top . People all around me were ribbing at each other, pulling each others legs and looking in my direction to see if I laughed or not (that A314!) and nobody took it the wrong way. I was the CENTER of attention. > > I got a great response from a friend with whom there were some issues in the past. I had been trying Instant Female Magic and other -nols and avoiding -none to calm her down for about a month or two with no avail. > But the first time I used TAL and P74 together she became very friendly-flirty from being stand-offish in the most amazing turn-around I have witnessed! > > Now I find it very hard to drop these from any mixes. The impact of these two together is only rivalled by when I first used Instant Shine. It’s really awesome. Something has to be said about female pheros. I am very interested to try TAH next." > > [TAL and P74 over an A314 base: more social than the -nols](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-p74-more-social-than-the-nols/3312/4) > nbully79 (April 25, 2007): > "The response from friend who showed a big turnaround was only with TAL and P74. The presence of these two is still felt even in my heavy duty phero mix, A314 is -Androsterone dominant, The Edge is -none dominant, PF is - Androstenol dominant. I have very good idea how this mix behaves so adding anything on top, if it has a different reaction, is easy to figure out. These two hardly lay in the background. > > Infact yesterday one girl got a proxy hit from my application (presumably TAL at only 5 mcg). She was sitting about a meter away from me and was getting lots of attention from all other guys in group even though she wasn’t reciprocating to anyone except me. It was definitely not normal for her. > > P74 by itself seems like an ideal mix of Alpha Androstenol + beta- Androstenol to me. Chattiness + connection." > > [P74/p79/p90: Ultra Charm!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742) > examine (March 26, 2007): > "P74/p79/p90: Ultra Charm! > so i put about 1/3 of each (10mgs) into a TO GO bottle. > > this is what you call ULTRA CHARM. damn." > > [P74/p79/p90: Ultra Charm! - #7 by examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742/7) > examine (March 26, 2007): > "sorry for the ultra summary i had someone at my house. > > ok. so i went to a club friday, and created this bottle. 6 sprays to the neck right after i parked…met up with some friends. this mix is likemx105 with spaceland. hard to explain. it was subtle at first, but then it all started coming out. women were smiling like this , i danced with another girl that said i was romantic (not sure how), another one of my friends gave me a hug and gave me a kiss on the neck. every time i would dance with someone, it was like they had tabs on me…things started getting a little aggressive. one of my girl friends wanted to buy me a drink, so we left the dance floor and went to the bar, next thing i know one of the girls i danced with earlier came up, said “i was looking for you on the floor, why arent you dancing” then grabbed my hand and we were back on the floor. (my friend called the next day to vent how disrespectful she was) > > another one of my friends, that i messed with a long time ago, text me some real deal xxx biz on my phone. i look up and shes at the bar looking in on the dance floor. LOL. > > just too much went on, i could go on and on. but it was a successful night , the girl i met and i went on a date sunday afternoon. then this morning i got a text from another girl (which i was too drunk to remember i gave her my number or how she looked) she sent over a pic on my celly..i remember her, she was hot, but looked pretty easy, the fellas picked up on her (yea she was dressed like whoa), and she got lost in the crowd. not sure when my number was givin. i do remember her talking to a friend of mine. > > like i said, the IOIs were as uplifting, bright, obvious as Spaceland, but P79 grabs that energy and turns it into sexuality. > > btw the range at this club was 23-33." > > [P74/p79/p90: Ultra Charm! - #8 by examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742/8) > examine (March 26, 2007): > "as for my attitude, i noticed i was all over the place. i broke out of my shell before the first shot. it was like i was in cancun or rosarito, and i was there to PAAAARTYAAA. notice, you go to a club to party, but when you are on vacation, its much much different _wink_ > > i didnt have to spit much game, like talk a good one to dance or any other ‘stuff’ it all just flowed, and was quite easy because of suchIOIs. I just played off them. > > but thats a rule of mine anyways, you see an IOI you pounce on that sh\*t like an owl on a jackrabbit. > > this was my favorite type of IOI the whole evening. seeing people do this ( ) > > i like when people do that. it makes me do it. LOL" > > [Only P74 and P79 upgraded from putative to pheromone: do they really work? - #8 by examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-and-p74/3443/8) > examine (May 3, 2007): > "P79 + P74 + P90 is what ive been using for the past couple of months. > > such a great every day mix." > > [P90 barely registers even at 250 mu: subtle, a touch social dominant? - #6 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-subtle-a-touch-social-dominant-maybe/985/6) m > examine (May 18, 2007): > "If P74 were Instant Openness > P90 would be Instant Honesty > > its social, but a little more serious, not as much as Instant Honesty, but for some reason, there is a sense of comfortable social understanding communication. It’s not wacky, but its as if you and a buddy are sitting down talking politics freely, non chalant over a glass of whiskey." > > [EXPERIMENTAL AGENT DOCUMENTS Vol. 1 - UltraGame shares his extensive phero experience](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimental-agent-documents-vol-1-ultragame-shares-his-extensive-phero-experience/4219) > UltraGame (June 19, 2007): > “Come Talk To Me (Mix 2) PRE-RELEASE: Should possibly be renamed to CHATTER! Excellent to mix with P74, this will create a super social mix and believe me… you will be talked to. The more you use the greater effects you notice, but I have realized it is a quite different feeling to Instant Honesty. It encourages BS talk!..” > > [P74 Stand alone - #12 by bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-stand-alone/14974/12) > bubblebob (July 7, 2008): > "Well, the original italian pizza had no cheese and no pizza sauce… > > I agree with you that P74 works best when combined with other molecules - or as Jas put it makes the effects more obvious for the beholder. For me it always works great when combined with Alpha Androstenol. I haven’t tried it with TAL - maybe that’s worth a try…" > > [P74 Stand alone - #11 by tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-stand-alone/14974/11) > tmoz (July 7, 2008): > "It’s all in my journal. But I do agree that there’s some changes manifested (only subconsciously though) in the people around you when using P74 by itself. > > Initially it really was harder to gauge what exactly P74 was doing, but I came to the conclusion that it was mere subtle subconscious attachment other men feel around you, but bonding doesn’t happen unless it’s an addition of 'nols, or even TAL(unisex social attachment but not as amplified as nols for male bonding). > > A pizza isn’t a pizza unless it’s got cheese and pizza sauce. Social bonding isn’t social bonding unless it’s got a conscious and subconscious molecular framework behind it." In addition to my explanation in the quote above, idle provides us with an alternative explanation as to why some people (mainly men) haven’t seen too much when wearing only moderate doses of P74 (‘moderate’ as in well under 100 mcg ) standalone. Interestingly, Jasmin makes the point that she’s “observed men getting pretty good results using P74 alone, but maybe it’s not the type of results the male eye can easily see.” Note except for Jasmin’s point all the posts below mentioning not seeing much from P74 standalone are from guys except for Petunia2323’s experience in the gym. P74 may work better on females at moderate dosages but should work well on guys as well at these dosages when combined with other communication enhancing pheromones (like Alpha-Androstenol)… [One word PUTATIVES Review(TAC,P74,TAF,TAA) - #8 by idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-word-putatives-review-tac-p74-taf-taa/17897/8) idle (August 2008): “Yes.. P74 works at smaller mcg but not on males. females seems to react even at 40 mcg.”? [P74 effect...help?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-effect-help/2667) Petunia2323 (March 22, 2007): "P74 effect…help? So I just received my Instant Sexiness, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), and putative P74!! I was totally excited to try them ALL out, but I kept my cool and decided to try them one at a time like peeps have suggested here. I decided to try out the P74 first since it’s still not clear the effects of the pheromones and went to the gym. Here’s my dosage: 1 spray split between wrists 1 on neck 1 on chest 1 on sweatshirt. I’ve read on other threads, mostly in the Men’s section, that the P74 is supposed to make other people chatty. However, when I went to the gym, I didn’t experience anything different. Even when I met up with my friends there, they didn’t seem too overly chatty or anything. So I’m pretty confused right now. Did I not use enough? I got it in the TOGO bottle, which is so small that I feel like 2 sprays would use it up completely. I feel like 4 sprays should be enough to be effective. Does anyone else have stories about P74 on women? Also, tomorrow I’m planning to use Instant Sexiness and Instant Shine to attract my target. Any good dosage amts that’d be effective?" [First P79 bottle smells like tequila: what dose do P74 and P79 need? - #2 by DrSmellThis](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-and-p74/4936/2) DrSmellThis (August 3, 2007): “It’s weird, but I haven’t noticed much of anything with P74, except I felt more sociable when wearing 20mcg.” [First P79 bottle smells like tequila: what dose do P74 and P79 need? - #4 by nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-and-p74/4936/4) nbully79 (August 4, 2007): “Same here! Not much with P74, P79 on the other hand shows itself very consistently.” [New Phero Guesses - #51 by Smudge](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-phero-guesses/6719/51) Smudge (December 7, 2007): “Not sure about P74; it hasn’t don’t much for me” [New Phero Guesses - #60 by Smudge](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-phero-guesses/6719/60) Smudge (December 9, 2007): “Have tried P74 on its own as well as with other social and sexual pheromones seperately and together. But nada, I got nothing out of it.” [2 Reports: P74 & Androstenone w/ Instant Shine & Realm Men](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-reports-p74-androstenone-w-instant-shine-realm-men/10500) Godhand (March 27, 2008): "Field Report #1: I went to work with 4 sprays of P74 and Angel Men as a cover scent…and almost nothing at all happened. Maybe it was a fluke, but most of my other mixes have noticable effects when I wear them to work. What are some of y’alls results using P74 on its own? Do you get anything wearing it in a work environment?.." [2 Reports: P74 & Androstenone w/ Instant Shine & Realm Men - #3 by Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-reports-p74-androstenone-w-instant-shine-realm-men/10500/3) Godhand (March 27, 2008): “Thats exactly what I experienced. Everybody else was chatting away, but not with me. It almost felt like it made me want to get away from them. Weird…” > [@P74 standalone - report](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-standalone-report/14886): > > This morning my GF & me went to enjoy a spa session. We had to take a train to reach the place. Before we left, I sprayed 3 times [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) on my neck. During the trip there was a very hot girl in her early 20’s sitting near us reading a book. She stared at me three times in a 20 minute time lapse!open_mouth I find it quite unusual, because I could be 10-15 years older than she was, and I was talking with my GF. She looked at me in the eye for some good 6-8 seconds and I hold her look back. That hap… tmoz (July 7, 2008): "Didn’t have too much initial success with P74 either. It’s not a good stand-alone product (for me anyways). It’s one of my favorite putatives though, but it’s also a product that for some reason tends to only work when used in compliment with certain others." > [@P74 standalone - report](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-standalone-report/14886): > > This morning my GF & me went to enjoy a spa session. We had to take a train to reach the place. Before we left, I sprayed 3 times [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) on my neck. During the trip there was a very hot girl in her early 20’s sitting near us reading a book. She stared at me three times in a 20 minute time lapse!open_mouth I find it quite unusual, because I could be 10-15 years older than she was, and I was talking with my GF. She looked at me in the eye for some good 6-8 seconds and I hold her look back. That hap… Jasmin (July 7, 2008): "I’ve observed men getting pretty good results using P74 alone, but maybe it’s not the type of results the male eye can easily see.That’s always an interesting issue. What do you like complimenting it with? Maybe you have some other posts that talk about that?" ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/60 "2008-09-19T12:39:45Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > It was originally noticed by tacitus that when TAA and TAC are combined, they pull in different directions which can lead to strange results. Adding P74 seems to be a real solution to this problem (according to tacitus and PheroQuirk)… > > [TAA + TAC + P74 makes women comfortable around men, then adding P84 and TAH](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-tac-p74-makes-women-comfortable-around-men/661) > tacitus (September 7, 2006): > "TAA + TAC + P74 makes women comfortable around men > > This was unexpected as TAA and TAC together are overly distinct from one another and sometimes generate a “split affect” state… however, when the three were combined I found women to become comfortble and accepting around me, even when outnumbered 5 to 1 (5 of them and 1 of me) especially considering these were sort of distant media types who have been concerned by my workin’ guy persona… I didn’t have to do much of anything except be my usual competent self, no extra social efforts were neded…" > > [The "A314 Stalker Effect": A314/MX102 and female obsession - #15 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-a314-stalker-effect-a314-mx102-and-female-obsession/697/15) > PheroQuirk (October 4, 2006): > “I think, by the way, that Tacitus is right about P74 reducing the tension between Gentleman and Shine, but I am not sure that it is entirely eliminated and can lead to unhelpful results when combined with large amounts of alcohol” > > ["nesting" pheromones, or how to encourage intimacy and bonding - #2 by Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nesting-pheromones-or-how-to-encourage-intimacy-and-bonding/3344/2) > PheroQuirk (May 10, 2007): > “Re: “nesting” pheromones, or how to encourage intimacy and bonding > I enthusiastically second Rbt’s suggestion of P74 and would also suggest EST. 74 goes with everything and seems to help reconcile components that would otherwise pull in different directions” > > [Experimone & Putative Mixs Thread - #2 by ash](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimone-putative-mixs-thread/3694/2) > PheroQuirk (May 16, 2007): > "Quote: > Molecule C (TAC)–Surprisingly little is known about this molecule. It has been stated to be anti-aggressive, and create an environment that is happy and talky and joke-laden. (Thank tacitus who has done the majority of research on this molecule.) > > part of the group coordination family. comic more than happy. pulls in a different direction to taa and you need something like p74 to be able to wear both without strange results." PheroQuirk’s suggestion in the quote above that “[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) seems to help reconcile components that would otherwise pull in different directions” might well be because of what tmoz says below: “the reason why P74 is so effective is because it compliments instead of enhancing…” > [@P74 Stand alone](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-stand-alone/14974): > > P74 Day 1: 8:00AM Total of 20mcgs applied to shoulders and forearms. Breakfast at familiar restaurant. Known waitress. Nothing noted. 9:00AM brought total application up to 30mcgs adding sides and back of neck 11:30AM Watering hole for lunch. Known barmaid and several regulars. Nothing noted. 12:30 Went to restroom and brought application up to 50mcgs. Spent another hour there with nothing notable. 6:00PM – application now up to 70mcgs. LTR arrived and we went to dinner. Known restaurant… tmoz (July 7, 2008): "It’s all in my journal. But I do agree that there’s some changes manifested (only subconsciously though) in the people around you when usingP74 by itself. Initially it really was harder to gauge what exactly P74 was doing, but I came to the conclusion that it was mere subtle subconscious attachment other men feel around you, but bonding doesn’t happen unless it’s an addition of 'nols, or even TAL (unisex social attachment but not as amplified as nols for male bonding). A pizza isn’t a pizza unless it’s got cheese and pizza sauce. Social bonding isn’t social bonding unless it’s got a conscious and subconscious molecular framework behind it." > [@P74 Stand alone](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-stand-alone/14974/13): > > There’s something really special about [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/). We already know what happens when used with nols, but its a putative that can just about be used with anything. People rave about how P79 enhances the phero cloud for all mixes, but the reason why P74 is so effective is because it compliments instead of enhancing. How can you go wrong by adding attachment to another base? A314 with P74 is a great bond which feels more like a wizard and his apprentice. With none it seems to sensualise the overtly aggre… tmoz (July 7, 2008): "There’s something really special about P74. We already know what happens when used with nols, but it’s a putative that can just about be used with anything. People rave about how P79 enhances the phero cloud for all mixes, but the reason why P74 is so effective is because it compliments instead of enhancing. How can you go wrong by adding attachment to another base? A314 with P74 is a great bond which feels more like a wizard and his apprentice. With none it seems to sensualise the overtly aggressive kick to a degree. etc etc." [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136.md?page=4)