# P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person' vibe, and empathy **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 17, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136 "2007-08-17T15:43:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/61 "2008-09-19T13:09:35Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > > May also found P74 useful in business/work situations. When wearing this putative, she made a lot of new friends/contacts and was approached and sounded out for some amazing opportunities. Now, as we have seen from above posts by Nunya, PheroQuirk, and Jasmin, P74 may not be the the best thing to wear in a typical office environment - you need to have the time and inclination to chat, hang out and bond with this high energy social molecule after all. But May’s experience shows us that in ‘appropriate’ workplace situations/environments this putative can be as good as GOLD. Given its usefulness in group situations (as seen by Kitten), P74 ‘anchored’/‘grounded’ with an A314 -like mix may work beautifully in any kind of group gatherings in an office, even formal meetings… > > [P74, P79, P83, P88 - #17 by May](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p83-p88/4440/17) > May (July 14, 2007): > "P74 > > Oh I do like this one… sorry for the delay on this thread, but firstly I was stuck at home writing a report and then I had to traipse across the country to stand up in front of a bunch of strangers and deliver that report… > > People really seem to LIKE you when you wear P74. They seem to feel comfortable approaching you, talking to you, and staying talking to you. In fact they say “hi” you say “hi” and then they sit down next to you and stay there… GREAT! > > I’m not sure how it works - but I want more of it. It’s not like they are hit with some kind of vulcan stun gun or something, but they just seem to behave as if they have known you for ages and enjoy your company. Conversation just becomes really natural.. > > Love it. > > I used… er rather a lot… simply because for me as a relative newbie using a load of something gives me an fast insight into what it does and then I can figure the dose - if that makes sense? > > I used 5 to go sprays of 12.5 mcg one split to the back of the hands > One for each side of the neck > One to the cleavage > One to the back of the neck, the nape.. > > I know a lot of the guys really like this product for socialising. I haven’t searched to seem what the ladies here think of it.. I will later…but I think this is also great in some business situations. > > I made a lot of new friends/ contacts while I was wearing P74 - it just seemed to make me a bit more relaxed and outgoing and also make people want to talk to me and enjoy talking to and being with me. If it makes people well disposed towards me I’m using it for meetings too > > Best > May" > > [P74: what do the ladies here think of it? - #3 by May](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74/4674/3) > May (July 16, 2007): > "Thanks Laurie > > Interesting that others found the friendly side of it, but found it a bit “scattered”. It didn’t do that for me. Not one shred of “rambling” conversation or anything disjointed and giggly. Just really good, very friendly chats. > > But that said, I was at a residential event so everyone had come together for a purpose and maybe that focussed it all a bit. > > That said, I still really like this product. I’ll try it again in the next few days - I’ve got another residential event coming up this week - so lots of unwitting guinea pigs around. > > May" > > [P74: what do the ladies here think of it? - #5 by May](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74/4674/5) > May (July 22, 2007): > "Well, okay… don’t ask me why or how. But P74 just seems to do the bizz for me. It’s fab for work. I’ve just got back from an event where I tried it again and I was approached and sounded out for some amazing opportunities. > > It also just really seems to keep everyone sweet and friendly. So, I imagine it is probably great for social too - it just seems that its “magnetic” properties - at least for me - also translate into career aspects and I am not complaining! > > I was wearing 4 to-go 12.5mcg sprays one to the top of the head, one each side of the neck and one to the cleavage. > > Best > May" > > [P74: what do the ladies here think of it? - #6 by May](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74/4674/6) > May (July 26, 2007): > "Well. > > I really think I’ve made a new friend in P74. So I ordered a big bottle last night. Hopefully customs won’t hold it back from me for too long! > > Best > May" > > [Which putatives (not mixes) should every phero-researcher have, and at what dosages? - #11 by May](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putatives/4874/11) > May (August 2007): > "May runs to hide her precious P74 stash > > Mind you that’s not a even a putative any more - it got promoted didn’t it? Please tell me it did!" > > [P74: what do the ladies here think of it? - #8 by May](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74/4674/8) > May (August 2007): > "Kitten, kitten where have you been! > Good to see you! > > P74 is my new best friend. I lurrve P74, if it was human I would marry it and even cook and clean for it. > > May" > > [Duration of P74](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/duration-of-p74/4931/3) > May (August 2007): > "In my personal experience it lasts at least five hours probably longer. That might be just me and due to my chemistry though. I can say this because the stuff has such a marked and visible effect on those around me - that it is easy to spot if their “I want to be with you” impulse has worn off. It was still there - admittedly it might have been a little less potent but still very much there - five hours after application, just before I left and did stuff alone. > > May" > > [P74, P79, P83, P88 - #22 by May](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p83-p88/4440/22) > May (August 2007): > “P74 I love…” > > [P74, P79, P83, P88 - #29 by May](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p83-p88/4440/29) > May (August 2007): > "P74 > > Used this at a conference again - with 25 mcg of est this time - God, I do so love P74 - it makes people amazingly helpful and benevolent towards me at professional events. > > I’m still figuring out the est. Getting there very slowly - will report more when I’ve tried it in more social settings > > May" > > [P74, P79, P83, P88 - #34 by May](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p83-p88/4440/34) > May (September 2007): > "Hi Visionary > > No, I’ve bought a big bottle of P74 now a 25mcg one. So I used three sprays of that two to the chest and one to the hair/ back of head. > > I’ve diluted my est to 5mcg and used four sprays of that two to the chest two to the top of head. > > I don’t have any trouble with being taken seriously on P74. The last conference was an international conference and the second biggest in the world in it’s area. I gave a paper and the primary expert - you know the sort of thing, long list of books to his name etc, sought me out to talk about it and asked to see more of my work. (Boy, was I chuffed!) > > So, serious is not a problem. At conferences I have not found P74 to be too social or “fun” it just seems to make it easier for people to approach you and make them want to stick around and carry on talking to you when they do. I don’t find it flippant at all. It just seems to make people comfortably fascinated. > > I haven’t tried it in a social setting yet - maybe it is context dependent or maybe women don’t need the extra alphaing. > > I’m off for a training event now - so will check the thread when I get back! > > May" > > [P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person' vibe, and empathy - #42 by May](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/42) > May (September 5, 2007): > "Hiya > > It’s very strange seeing your stuff being quoted back. But I noticed that someone said that perhaps the effects I get from P74 in a professional setting might be linked to my area of work. > > I’m going to try to keep this as non-identifying as possible - for no other reason than safety on the internet we never know who is reading this and there are a few mighty strange folk out there. > > I specialise in Geopolitics. In particular current Western Geopolitical views and systems. It can be a bit cut-throat and doesn’t generally pull its punches. It’s also less dull than it sounds. > > Looks-wise. I’m average, middle-aged and slim-build. Nothing to write home about > > I do however, have a blood group that is fairly rare in the West. I’m B+. It’s much more common in Asia and Russia but only about 8 per cent (ish) in the West. There is some Asian or Russian blood in my background, but it’s more than five generations ago and we haven’t been able to trace it yet. > > May" idle, like May in the quote above, uses P74 for an advantage in business situations. After a slow start (see September 2007 post below) where P74 may have diminished his influence at a meeting, he has taken to this putative in business situations like a duck to water (“the business guy thats cool”). Unlike May, he doesn’t use P74 standalone, rather as an effective add-on to the ‘usual suspects’ in business situations like A314 and also TAC: > [@The dangers of friendly pheromones in a business mix](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-dangers-of-friendly-pheromones-in-a-business-mix/5365/6): > > GWTW you are my type of guy… 80% of my phero usage is at business meetings and work too.. I used A314 and [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) (2 sparys at 25mgc per spray). This mix is good for hanging out with friends.. but in the meeting i was kinda ignored.. i had no influence on the decisions… it was really weird. So can you share more of your bussiness mixes that worked well. A314 + additional Androsterone ? I got some good impressions with 4 drops of a314 and a drop of TAA oil under my nose for some self influence. … idle (September 2007): "GWTW you are my type of guy… 80% of my phero usage is at business meetings and work too.. I used A314 and P74 (2 sparys at 25mgc per spray). This mix is good for hanging out with friends.. but in the meeting i was kinda ignored.. i had no influence on the decisions… it was really weird. So can you share more of your bussiness mixes that worked well. A314 + additional Androsterone ? I got some good impressions with 4 drops of A314 and a drop of TAA oil under my nose for some self influence." > [@Idle's Pheromone Addiction](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/idles-pheromone-addiction/12421/2): > > II. idle Mixes Idle Club Mix 4 A314 4 Ammo / or 3 Turn Up The Heat 2 TAA oil 3 Instant Shine 2x 3 P74 @25mcg per spray 2 TAC @25mcg per spray 4 CTTM 2 / 4 Spaceland Business Meeting (A) 4-5 A314 2 TAC @25mcg 4-6 Instant Honesty 3 Instant Gentlemen 2 Instant Shine 2x 1-2 Turn Up The Heat (or some –none) 50mcg Estratetraenol / 4 [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) Business Meeting (B) 4-5 A314 2 TAC @25mcg 3 P74 @25mcg 2 Instant Openness 3 Instant Gentlemen 2 TAA oil 2 Instant Shine 2x 1 Turn Up The Hea… idle (May 10, 2008): "II. idle Mixes Business Meeting (A) 4-5 A314 2 TAC @25mcg 4-6 Instant Honesty 3 Instant Gentlemen 2 Instant Shine 2x 1-2 Turn Up The Heat (or some -none) 50mcg Estratetraenol / 4 [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) Business Meeting (B) 4-5 A314 2 TAC @25mcg 3 P74 @25mcg 2 Instant Openness 3 Instant Gentlemen 2 TAA oil 2 Instant Shine 2x 1 Turn Up The Heat (or some -none) 50mcg Estratetraenol / 4 Instant Female Magic A – meeting with serous not the fun type people B - meeting with people who know how to party IF the meeting is with Females change Estratetraenol to Instant Female Magic – 4 Sprays." > [@One word PUTATIVES Review(TAC,P74,TAF,TAA)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/one-word-putatives-review-tac-p74-taf-taa/17897/1): > > directly from my journal ! slight_smile VI. PUTATIVES Review Short description [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) If called by one world it should be Instant COOL Guy. Be more accepted / liked by both males and females. With a dosage above 100mcg people are begging to be your friend (strongly affect males). It is easy to become friend with almost everyone you want. P74 can take down the seriousness in A314. You are still the business guy.. but with p74 you are the business guy thats cool. Great for buffering the n… idle (August 2008): "P74 If called by one world it should be Instant COOL Guy. Be more accepted / liked by both males and females. With a dosage above 100mcg people are begging to be your friend (strongly affect males). It is easy to become friend with almost everyone you want. P74 can take down the seriousness in A314. You are still the business guy.. but with p74 you are the business guy thats cool. Great for buffering the negatives of Androstenone TAC TAC is the business P74 Similar attributes like P74. You get accepted in every company. People around you are happy with you. They like you and they will want you every time they make a meeting. But TAC is more serious than p74. A314 + TAC and you are really commanding! A314 + TAC + P74 is a really strong combination when you want to influence someones opinion without insult the person." ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/62 "2008-09-19T13:36:23Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > > [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/17) > Flipcat (June 1, 2007): > "My perception is that P74 ] takes others view you as “cool”. That’s the simple version. > > When I first used it, it also made me much chattier and more socially forward. I felt “disinhibited”, like it had many of the positives of a good drink. In closed spaces, I notice something else, it makes me sort of tired and relaxed. Sometimes too relaxed in a really small space like my car. Even though I view it as sort of the “cool” pheromone, it may achieve that by being a a selective relaxant or disinhibitor. > > Thinking a litle more about this… It’s definitely a “mellow” cool, not a “this guy is going to take me on his motorcycle at 180mph” danger type of cool, if that makes sense. > > It’s laid back, and it may be attractive for that reason. People are stressed out a lot in their lives, and they don’t need friends or lovers who are going to add to that." > > According to tacitus and now idle, higher doses of P74 (100 mcg+) may really take things to a new level… > > [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #11 by tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/11) > tacitus (July 8, 2006): > “Strong P74 around 100-150 mu > I’m getting remarkable social results with P74 when the dosage is upped… either alone or put into mixes… at higher levels it really opens up converstaion and approacability… in a not so Alpha Androstenol way, not so romantic, more hyper-empathetic…” > > [P74 & Meo-est results](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-meo-est-results/16799/2) > idle (August 2008): > "With P74 people are friendly because they see you as a cool/nice person. My observation is that it works more on Males rather then females. With a dosage above 100mcg people are begging to be your friend. > When i use more than 100mcg at parties the next day people that dont know me.. ask the others: “who was that cool guy”.. lets invite him again and stuff like that. > > I am really started to get addicted to p74… > I got my bottle 10 days ago and its only 50% left… > i have to move at higher concentrations" Runnerxvr/Franz’s experiences with megadoses (100 mcg) of P74 in a mix are pasted in below. Note the ‘lowered danger perception’ may be similar to some of the self-effects described earlier by Flipcat in the quote above" > [@Mixing up for a mega dosage (P74+TAA+IH+A314)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-up-for-a-mega-dosage-p74-taa-ih-a314/18002/1): > > Hello to everybody! Seen that today I noticed that there weren’t many new threads on the forum, I decided to bore you all guys about my yesterday experiment. The idea was… To go over three times over the average amount of Pheros that I usaully wear. Here are the details. Pheromones Used: Oil TAA - Regular Strenght A314 - Regular Strenght [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) - Regular Strength P74 - 10 mcgs/spray Locations: 2 drops Oil TAA - Wrists 1 drop A314 - Wrists 2 x Instant Honesty - Wrists 100 mcg … runnerxvr (August 2008): "Mixing up for a mega dosage (P74+TAA+Instant Honesty+A314) Hello to everybody! Seen that today I noticed that there weren’t many new threads on the forum, I decided to bore you all guys about my yesterday experiment. The idea was… To go over three times over the average amount of Pheros that I usaully wear. Here are the details. Pheromones Used: Oil TAA - Regular Strenght A314 - Regular Strenght Instant Honesty - Regular Strength P74 - 10 mcgs/spray Locations: 2 drops Oil TAA - Wrists 1 drop A314 - Wrists 2 x Instant Honesty - Wrists 100 mcg P74 - Neck Results: I wore this combination just before going to meet a girl for some clubbing. On the beginning I didn’t feel anything special. I was after a tiring working day and I supposed that I couldn’t do much even with this load of Pheros. Just a few minutes after, I felt a burst of energy I couldn’t expect. This mix even cheered me, but also lowered my danger estimation. I noticed it on how I was driving my car. Moreover, I was smiling to every girl I met on my way to meet my friend. When I met her, I’ve seen that she was affected by it too. She turned from the pissed-off mood to a quite happy one. We had good time together, but I couldn’t stop talking. I was a real chatterbox! Usually I’m not so chatty… That was surprising to me. Ok, this is the report of my test. Anybody tested this combination lately? Please, let me know! See ya Franz" > [@Mixing up for a mega dosage (P74+TAA+IH+A314)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-up-for-a-mega-dosage-p74-taa-ih-a314/18002/7): > > Hello Warren and Phya! I’m replying to your questions. First Phya, the only tripled dosage was [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/). Usaully I wear around 30 mcgs of it. So, 100 is higher than the triple dosage… For Warren, what I meant when I wrote about the lowered danger perception, was like… Hmmm… Like when your after some (many) glasses of some alcohol. I never used TAC and I can’t help you about that. I hope that Idle will answer your question. Seen that the other ingredients had a really low dosage, I can only tell tha… runnerxvr (August 2008): "Hello Warren and Phya! I’m replying to your questions. First Phya, the only tripled dosage was P74. Usaully I wear around 30 mcgs of it. So, 100 is higher than the triple dosage… For Warren, what I meant when I wrote about the lowered danger perception, was like… Hmmm… Like when your after some (many) glasses of some alcohol. I never used TAC and I can’t help you about that. I hope that Idle will answer your question. Seen that the other ingredients had a really low dosage, I can only tell that it’s all about P74. Anyway, I’m using P74 for about an year now, it never happened somehting like that, and I’m still very happy about it. I think that it should become a real Phero and not just a putative. See ya Franz" > [@Pheromones For...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for/17950/7): > > Hello Simple1, I suggest you Instant Shine + [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). There are also other two that you could try. One is MX222 (out of stock) and the other is P74. I tried P74 at 100 mcg (soon I’ll post a report) and I felt absolutely the master of all that was surrounding me. I thought thos may interest you. See ya Franz runnerxvr (August 2008): "Hello Simple1, I suggest you Instant Shine + [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). There are also other two that you could try. One is MX222 (out of stock) and the other is P74. I tried P74 at 100 mcg (soon I’ll post a report) and I felt absolutely the master of all that was surrounding me. I thought thos may interest you. See ya Franz" ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/63 "2008-09-19T16:51:38Z")
Oh hey Socrates, I’m glad to see this thread up here. It’s very relevant to my day. I just wore P74 for the first time, along with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)… Just collecting my thoughts to start writing the report, in fact. I was just reading these posts last night. Basically: P74 + IS = win. But I’ll start grasping for some words to describe it now, and get writing 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MattyBison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@MattyBison](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MattyBison)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/64 "2008-09-20T06:41:49Z")
Hi all, I like the idea of [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) giving off a cool, laid back and approachable vibe. Could this be used in a bar/attraction environment in conjunction with instant shine and either ammo or turn up the heat? Or would the androstenone mess the P74’s approachability. Just wondering if anyone has experimented or thinks this would be a good idea? ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 7:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/65 "2008-09-20T07:31:02Z")
Hi MattyBison. I just tried 30mcg of P74 and 2 sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and I think a spray of TUTH would be a marvellous addition. I will try it for sure soon. ---
**Author:** ![SinisterSam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sinistersam/32/407_2.png) [@SinisterSam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SinisterSam)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 2:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/66 "2008-09-20T14:39:49Z")
Thanks everyone for the info in this thread. I really didn’t know about any of the “Advanced” / “Enthusiasts” mixes or whatnot but p74 really sounds like a champion! I think I am going to make my first purchase today… Perhaps I’ll wait until Monday, I’m not sure if AndroticsDirect even ships on weekends - anyone happen to know? 1. P74 (5 mL To Go, UPGRADE_25_ mcg/spray) & (Neroli (Orange Flower) - Lightly Scented) 2. Instant Shine (To Go, Double Strength 2X) 3. “[Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)” (To Go) 4. AMMO (To Go) Any suggestions? I think this is a reasonable mix to just test pheromones out… The A-134 sounds pretty cool but I didn’t see a To Go option and I’m still somewhat of a doubter, so I think I’ll reserve spending that much on one product one I can see this other stuff in action. Once again thanks for all the P74 info!! ---
**Author:** ![Ralse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ralse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ralse)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/67 "2008-09-21T11:10:11Z")
Hi Sam, I don’t know if they ship on sundays, but I know for sure that if you make your order now, it will be processed and shipped as soon as possible. The A314 doesn’t exist yet in a to go spray bottle, but it works longer then sprayables so in that regard you may find the time in the morning to apply it. It only takes a few seconds, and it lasts much longer then the sprayables as well. A314 is my personal favorite because i just enjoy the smell so much and the feeling it gives you. ---
**Author:** ![SinisterSam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sinistersam/32/407_2.png) [@SinisterSam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SinisterSam)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/68 "2008-09-21T19:38:07Z")
I ended up ordering the [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) 5 mL, 37.5 mcg/spray, and also to-go’s of IS (2x) and TUTH. Perhaps going with such a strong combo for the p74 wasn’t the wisest thing, but I know you can’t really “OD” on it, at least I will be able to gauge the results more fully (seeing as how this is my first purchase). But I certainly intend to snatch some A314 if all goes well :] [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136.md?page=3)