# P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person' vibe, and empathy **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 17, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136 "2007-08-17T15:43:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 47
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/47 "2008-01-08T20:53:55Z")
P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > > Now lets take a look at that mellow ?cool person? vibe that users have reported a lot of when wearing P74 ? > > [before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #81 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/81) > PheroQuirk (August 6, 2006): > “P74 and EST seem to be good (when combined with a regular balanced mix inc A314 and Shine) at creating a cool vibe amongst men and women alike. You are a relaxed, charismatic presence - lovely guy/mature, powerful yet not intimidating and people smile, want to get to know you, invite you to parties. And I think this stays with them - it’s not like an OD of some of the simpler mixes where if you see someone again without it they are in a different state and it’s as if your interaction with them previously had never reached the level it did and they feel at some level puzzled about why they behaved that way towards you?” > > [Pheromone Arousal - #37 by m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-arousal/1768/37) > m3turbo (April 30, 2007): > “[P74] seems to sort of give off a cool person vibe. It seems to make people think “hey this guy knows where the party is at.” It is very interesting, I think because so many women will judge you based on your social status is why this is making my mixes so much more effective. I have not used it by itself though so I can’t say for sure but when I added it to my mixes I started getting way more hits.” > > [Pheromone Arousal - #39 by m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-arousal/1768/39) > m3turbo (May 1, 2007): > “I have never used come CTTM so I can’t compare but P74 is slightly different than any reaction I have gotten from the nols. People don’t flock around you like I guess they are supposed to with CTTM. It is like an admirable androstenol. Like A314 but cooler and more approachable. So you are pretty accurate with your CTTM A314 reference.” > > [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/4) > Flipcat (May 1, 2007): > "Yeah, it’s friendly, but I like this variation of friendly more than something like Instant Openness or CTTM when used alone. > > It’s more like it makes you into a guy people want to be friendly with, rather than stuff you spray on that makes people friendly, if that makes sense. P74, to me, is more like the cool guy everyone wants to hang out with. Like a band dude." > > [Mixes: P74 / IO / Ammo vs Pheroproof? - #2 by perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-p74-io-ammo-vs-pheroproof/3787/2) > perronec (May 21, 2007): > “P74 seems more laid back to me. When I think of P74, I think of a guy in a collared shirt and jeans, top few buttons unbuttoned, relaxing at a party. He’s not really badass in any way, just cool and fun?” > > [Mixes: P74 / IO / Ammo vs Pheroproof? - #13 by Flipcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-p74-io-ammo-vs-pheroproof/3787/13) > Flipcat (May 27, 2007): > “My ears perked up when you said she was way cooler than you, but was still into you with P74. I’ve been feeling that P74 makes me into the cool guy. Cool people tend to only like other cool people, so would you agree? Were you wearing any others pheromones?” > > [Mixes: P74 / IO / Ammo vs Pheroproof? - #14 by PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-p74-io-ammo-vs-pheroproof/3787/14) > PheroQuirk (May 27, 2007): > “hi -yes i was wearing a complex mix… but i do think i have a good feel for p74 and agree that it will contribute to a mellow cool guy vibe. (not sure that cool ppl ‘only like other cool people’).” > > [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/17) > Flipcat (June 1, 2007): > "My perception is that [P74] takes others view you as “cool”. That’s the simple version. > > When I first used it, it also made me much chattier and more socially forward. I felt “disinhibited”, like it had many of the positives of a good drink. In closed spaces, I notice something else, it makes me sort of tired and relaxed. Sometimes too relaxed in a really small space like my car. Even though I view it as sort of the “cool” pheromone, it may achieve that by being a a selective relaxant or disinhibitor. > > Thinking a litle more about this… It’s definitely a “mellow” cool, not a “this guy is going to take me on his motorcycle at 180mph” danger type of cool, if that makes sense. > > It’s laid back, and it may be attractive for that reason. People are stressed out a lot in their lives, and they don’t need friends or lovers who are going to add to that." > > [How Do You Know Your Pheromones Are Working?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-know-your-pheromones-are-working/3898/4) > Flipcat (June 1, 2007): > “With me, I notice them working when I get responses to me that are unusual. P74 kinda makes it like I’m the cool, hang out dude in the band, and I haven’t experienced that in YEARS. (since I was a cool guy in a band!) That just knocks my socks off. It’s so different from pheromones and my normal experience without pheromones?” > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > P74 and Magnetism. Sigma provides the bulk of the posts here with very nice detailed descriptions of the social magnetism that P74 helps to create (which can easily turn into something more than ‘social’ as we saw in the first post of this thread )… > > [Most magnetic pheromones for men?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-magnetic-pheromones-for-men/3796) > Jasmin (May 22, 2007): > " Most magnetic pheromones for men? > > What do you guys feel are the most magnetic pheromones? Pheromones that draw people to you, and keep 'em around? > > I’m thinking P74, TAA, and a little TAH." > > Sigma (May 22, 2007): > Re: Most magnetic pheromones for men? > > P74, Taa, Tal, P93, Est > > Nunya (May 27, 2007): > "wow - i’d have to say it depends on context and your audience, and possibly personal congruity as well. > > For me the most magnetic have been Alpha Androstenol, and TAL and P79 all with a dash of cops. I disappear with TAH. P74 seems really good for women - but i feel distracted trying to keep up with the conversation" > > Kitten (May 31, 2007): > Hmmm…Magnetic… > Instant Sexiness > Instant Shine > P74 > TAH > Light Copulins (in addition to those already in Instant Sexiness) > Heavy Androstenol like in Scent of Eros Woman > If you mixed Instant Sexiness A (keeping whatever TAL is in there but not increasing it), with some Instant Shine or TAA, lots of P74,some TAH, and upped the copulins and androstenol a bit, you might get something pretty magnetic. Especially if you gave it a really faint carmalized scent. We ladies could add cops to taste, so to speak. Just my 2 cents on the stuff I have used. (Ordered EST and that may prove magnetic as well. Ve shall see. ) > > [P74 is NOT what i expected - #3 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-is-not-what-i-expected/2704/3) > Sigma (March 24, 2007): > “People wanting to be in your personal space seems to be the primary benefit [of P74] to others. It creates a strong social presence…enhanced of social attention and magnetism. My WIP clubbing mix thrives on this type of social positioning. With the addition of P74, even the people who hang around me notice the increased (sexual) attention that I’ve been getting. Good stuff” > > [P74 - Good for everything? - #10 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469/10) > Sigma (March 25, 2007): > “P74 is socially very light. Very much an attention grabber. Creates a whole lot of social magnetism, but is also very socially ‘up in the air’. Spacey, socially careless, maybe a little too open at times. Its a little sexual and edgy…makes women kind of adore you?” > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > P74 may not be the best thing to wear when you don’t have the time or inclination for energetic social interactions? > > [P74 - Good for everything?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469) > Jasmin (March 12, 2007): > “From what I’ve seen with my own eyes, the only negative might be the time you could need for social interactions. I’m not sure P74 is really appropriate unless you have time to hangout and bond?” > > [P74 - Good for everything? - #16 by Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469/16) > PheroQuirk (March 25, 2007): > “I love P74 - and Steveo was on the mark with regard to the energetic aspects. I’s prob too much for an office environment most of the time though. I only apply at night.” > > [Initial Impressions of P74 - #2 by Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/2) > Nunya (March 29, 2007): > "In any case, almost 2 hours in - people are still pretty chatty in a “super-top secret” sort of vibe. P74 to me is more beta-nolish than p93. I’m really impressed with UB - she’s almost warm and polite. Even in the strategy meeting today, her body language was one of actually being engaged in the meeting, which is rare. The meeting itself was pretty good today - not the rah rah go team attitude of yesterday - more empathetic, and full of mutual respect. As for me - I’ms till feeling a little buzz, and strangely i’m seeing coronas from time to time when I look at things. > I’m also finding myself not wanting to talk, because it’s difficult for me to focus on conversations, whilst others want to have long conversations. > > interesting. perhaps not the best bet for my particular job, but should at a little something interesting socially, when i have time to just focus on being social." > > [EST - uplift and bonding for men only? - #3 by PepeInLosAltos](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-uplift-and-bonding-for-men-only/4555/3) > PheroQuirk (July 11, 2007): > "Quote: > Originally Posted by PepeInLosAltos > I’ve been researching, but not trying much so far. I’m waiting for my big order to come in. From the forums, it seems that TAA is the primary ingredient in Shine, while -nols invoke diarrhea of the mouth. I’m looking to EST as something that encourages emotional bonding in a social forum, more “I like being here with you” than “Aren’t you just so much fun?”, more cuddly than chatty. > > Having analyzed tacitus’ posts, TAA and -nols may not be ideal for quiet environments. > > P74 too." > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > P74 tends to make people want to hang around the wearer for longer so it can easily buy you more time? > Quote: > Originally Posted by Socrates > > [P74 - Good for everything?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469) > Jasmin (March 12, 2007): > “From what I’ve seen with my own eyes, the only negative might be the time you could need for social interactions. I’m not sure P74 is really appropriate unless you have time to hangout and bond?” > > [P74 is NOT what i expected - #5 by LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-is-not-what-i-expected/2704/5) > LaurieNY (March 24, 2007): > " Re: P74 is NOT what i expected > > I noticed a definite BO undertone to this stuff, too. I’m not roadtesting it again without a cover scent. > > People were a bit chatty at work, but our department secretary had just returned from a two-week trip and she and I are close, so that long conversation probably would have happened anyway? Needs more testing." > > [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/27) > perronec (June 1, 2007): > "Due to the fact that I usually use it in mixes i was never sure which parts were p74, but i had an Idea as I added each part of the mix one at a time. > > People opened up about parts of their lives they thought were cool and interesting without me provoking them to talk about them.Teachers spend more time going over things they like instead of classwork. Stories about a persons day become more detailed and interesting. > > It seems to bring a cool comfort to the conversation." > > [p74 dose](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-dose/3091/34) > bubblebob (September 2007): > “I understand P74 as the she-wants-to-be-around-you pheromone, because you give off this cool, fun vibe. Where you take it from there is in your hands. It just opens up more possibilities and more time.” Support from Rattlesnake on some of the earlier themes from people’s experiences with P74: increased magnetism towards to the wearer, can end up using up large lengths of time/energy due to the socialising (can be distracting at work), detailed ‘fun’ conversations, very friendly and chatty vibe, etc… [I know I said I wasnt going to but I did it anyway!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-know-i-said-i-wasnt-going-to-but-i-did-it-anyway/8114) Rattlesnake (January 2008): "Hi folks, hope the new year is going well for all. In one of my previous posts I had said that I would be leaving off the experimental stuff for a while, at least until I’d figured out the mainline products. I guess temptation got the better of me. Also, one of the reasons I was wanting to stop was because my last couple of mixes didnt seem to be working out at all and I was beginning to get fustrated. Anyhoo, I tested out P74 on its own. 10 mcg strength bottle, one direct blast to the chest Went in to work as usual, now one of my colleagues whose the grumpy sort lightened up. This guy is usually very serious, you’d have a hard time making him laugh, seems to live life like its one long funeral or something. Well, I guess you imagine my suprise when he actually lightened up a fair bit. Not saying he was swinging naked from the light fittings or anything but he was quite relaxed chilled out and fun to talk to. He laughed a lot more that was usual (usual being nothing). He also made far more excuses to come see me, since I’ve been using A314 he’s upped the frequency of visits but these seem far more prolonged. At home time, he kept making excuse after excuse to stick around (beginning to annoy the hell outta me cos I wanted to finish off some stuff I was doing). He literally went to leave 4 times but then decided to stay. Not sure how to analyse this but perhaps this phero makes you feel like your having fun and I guess we were up to a point when he started to distract me. I guess he attached that feeling of fun to me and kept coming back for more. Also, there was far more attention given to me, the man in question fancies himself as the alpha male of the group and tries to dominate conversations but now he kinda hung on every word. Definately a social phero, my previous mixes confirm this. Unfortunately, I havent had the chance to test on any females and I’m cautious about trying this stuff at work since I wont be doing any bloody work! I definately think this stuff needs to be added to [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) Mix 2, in my opinion it would definately help it stay true to its name. Anyway thats my 2 cents on P74 Rattle" --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136)._