# P74 And It's Self Effects? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 27, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048 "2008-10-27T01:16:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/1 "2008-10-27T01:16:14Z")
I have tried [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) two times at 20 mcg and get a drunk feel from it. šŸ˜• šŸ˜•. Does anyone else feel this and does the self effect get better with time? ---
**Author:** ![cbot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@cbot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cbot)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/2 "2008-10-27T01:45:30Z")
I tried out a 30mcg shot of p74 over the weekend (2 x 7.5mcg split wrists, 1 x 7.5 mcg neck and 1 shot in hair) applied over 2 drops of a314 split wristsā€¦no drunk feeling hereā€¦I felt pretty calm/relaxed/laid back with this mix but i was feeling kinda like this before application as well so it was hard to tell of additional self effects. ---
**Author:** ![cbot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@cbot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cbot)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/3 "2008-10-27T01:47:51Z")
I also forgot to mention that during this time i had a cold so this could limit some of the effects. ---
**Author:** ![SoulCreator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soulcreator/32/236_2.png) [@SoulCreator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SoulCreator)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 4:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/4 "2008-10-27T04:17:26Z")
Iā€™ve used p74 in moderation, and personally I have never quite noted any sort of intoxicating effect from it. Although I can say that just about every time I have ever used the stuff I have ended up feeling ridiculously tired afterward. I suppose the stuff has a propensity to burn out my neurotransmitters. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/5 "2008-10-27T04:30:15Z")
i havenā€™t noticed the drunken effect from p74, even up to 60mcgs but i do from p123 every time. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 4:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/6 "2008-10-27T04:31:11Z")
I like [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), but if I use much more than 10mcg, I get an uncomfortable buzz like I have been drinking too much caffeine. I have not noticed this changing as I continue to use P74 over time. ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 6:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/7 "2008-10-27T06:10:43Z")
[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) for me is a headliner. it goes in almost every mix i make. Its cool, people want to be around me, and the laughing has more of an uncontrolable giggle aspect to it. simply wonderful. Certainly no drunk feeling and I commonly go up to 100mcgsā€¦as you use it more you may notice the self effects die down ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/8 "2008-10-28T03:49:21Z")
Thanks everyone for the info I will be giving [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) some more tests. ---
**Author:** ![SinisterSam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sinistersam/32/407_2.png) [@SinisterSam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SinisterSam)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 5:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/9 "2008-10-28T05:10:27Z")
I had a megahit using p74ā€¦ Maybe a one time thing, maybe not (I had also used a small amount of tuth and IS a few hours prior, but likely insignificant given the mix had over 200mcg of p74). It literally had me saying ā€œwhat would your boyfriend think about that!ā€ Definite, 100% boyfriend effect, very ā€œvibeā€ inducing. I had a togo of like 40mcg per spray so I must have been drenched in it. ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/10 "2008-10-28T05:20:56Z")
> [@SinisterSam](#): > > I had a megahit using p74ā€¦ Maybe a one time thing, maybe not (I had also used a small amount of tuth and IS a few hours prior, but likely insignificant given the mix had over 200mcg of p74). > > It literally had me saying ā€œwhat would your boyfriend think about that!ā€ Definite, 100% boyfriend effect, very ā€œvibeā€ inducing. I had a togo of like 40mcg per spray so I must have been drenched in it. SinisterSam, Could you go into more detail about your hit and dosing? Iā€™ve never tried that much p74 and iā€™d like to know more of the little things you observed. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 5:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/11 "2008-10-28T05:23:01Z")
> [@SoulCreator](#): > > Iā€™ve used p74 in moderation, and personally I have never quite noted any sort of intoxicating effect from it. > > Although I can say that just about every time I have ever used the stuff I have ended up feeling ridiculously tired afterward. I suppose the stuff has a propensity to out my neurotransmitters. I know Iā€™m late to the party, but just for the record, my nickle. Iā€™ve used up to 30mcg P74. I get the camaraderie from others but I donā€™t get the intoxicated effect. I didnā€™t get much from it when wearing it alone. But thatā€™s not unusual, for me, when testing putatives. I notice effects better when I pair it with something else I know well. For self effects, I feel rather cool, calm and together when wearing it. I know what youā€™re saying, Soul Manā€¦the stuff is hella, crashes harder/burns me outā€¦more than any other pheromone, even TAF. I know some people crash from [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), as well. When I first started using pheromones, one day while placing an order, I had a conversation with Jasmin. We were talking about TAF, deciding what mcgs I should order. She tells me TAF is one of those that really messes with your neurotransmitters so make sure to ā€œrestā€ 3-4 days in between uses. So I guess some of us are more sensitive in this respect. Like a lot of people I, sometimes, donā€™t get enough sleep, but Iā€™m in good shape and eat wellā€¦so, I dunno. And I always make sure to take my vitamins, especially the Bā€™s. šŸ˜‰ I know people have been testing P74 a lot lately. Besides you, Tmos and me I havenā€™t seen anybody else post about P74 kickinā€™ their a\*\*ā€¦have you guys? tfrankz, sometimes you just need to acclimate yourself. Try a lesser dose and spray away from your face and see if that helps. Do that a few times and then if allā€™s well step it up. If not, then it may not be for you. So josef, how much P123 does it take to get you snockered? šŸ˜ƒ Are you still testing it? Warren is buzzinā€™ā€¦lolā€¦is it like an androstenol buzz? I havenā€™t noticed that with P74, but too much androstenol does that to me. Bella ---
**Author:** ![SinisterSam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sinistersam/32/407_2.png) [@SinisterSam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SinisterSam)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 6:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/12 "2008-10-28T06:10:45Z")
> [@perronec](#): > > SinisterSam, > > Could you go into more detail about your hit and dosing? Iā€™ve never tried that much p74 and iā€™d like to know more of the little things you observed. Yeah, sure. Basically, it was one of the first times I had used pheros so I really wanted to max it outā€¦ I saw an old hs friend who I usually just chat with for a couple minutes max. She called me over and at that point the self-effects were still pretty enormous (had applied the concoction maybe 2-3 hours before), and a couple IS 2x hits to the face). Just to clarify, I had sprayed the tuth to my chest and forearm hours before with the IS to face and hair, but I sprayed and spreaded around tons of p74 to my arms and forearms, neck, wrist, hair (with the 40mcg bottle too. It must have been at least 5 sprays, or 200mcg). Probably not the best use of pheros, but at least I found out they worked. But getting back to the story, I sat down next to her and a couple minutes later I told her I was gonna leave to go do some boring stuff. Definite strangeness ensued; She insisted on following me, and did just that, tracing each and every step until she had to leave 4+ hours later (to be picked up by her bf haha!!). It was clear that the p74 was eliciting the ā€œboyfriend effectā€, because she kept demanding that I put my arm around her (the ā€œwhat would he thinkā€ comment came here) and then later there was an abnormally slow goodbye kiss (which she wanted returned and got it - again, this had never happened before). There were tons of ā€œlittle thingsā€ that were out of the ordinary. It was in her eyes too, mine as well probably. Just a really intense, unmistakable, sparkling vibeā€¦ Kind of weird, a bit hard to fully explain (very out of the ordinary behavior for her, and me - in fact, the whole day is kind of a blur b/c I was so stoned on massive amounts of pheros). It was almost unethical actually :0 Iā€™m kind of glad there was very little tuth in that mix (not to mention the fact that we were at school in the middle of the day) because I really donā€™t like to get involved with friends like her (even if she is a 10 haha). I canā€™t wait until my bitchy ex-gf comes back in November then we will see if something like tuth _really really_ works haha. Hell just might freeze over :] ---
**Author:** ![SinisterSam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sinistersam/32/407_2.png) [@SinisterSam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SinisterSam)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 6:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/13 "2008-10-28T06:25:58Z")
> [@perronec](#): > > SinisterSam, > > Could you go into more detail about your hit and dosing? Iā€™ve never tried that much p74 and iā€™d like to know more of the little things you observed. Yeah, sure. Basically, it was one of the first times I had used pheros so I really wanted to max it outā€¦ I saw an old hs friend who I usually just chat with for a couple minutes max. She called me over and at that point the self-effects were still pretty enormous (had applied the concoction maybe 2-3 hours before), and a couple IS 2x hits to the face). Just to clarify, I had sprayed the tuth to my chest and forearm hours before with the IS to face and hair, but I must have sprayed tons of p74 to my arms and forearms, neck, wrist, hair (with the 40mcg bottle too. I must have been at least 5 sprays, or 200mcg). Probably not the best use of pheros, but at least I found out they worked. But getting back to the story, I sat down next to her and a couple minutes later tell her I gotta leave to do some boring stuff. Definite strangeness ensued; She insisted on following me, and did just that, tracing each step until she had to leave 3+ hours later (to be picked up by her bf haha!!). It was clear that the p74 was eliciting the ā€œboyfriend effectā€, because she kept demanding that I put my arm around her (the ā€œwhat would he thinkā€ comment came here) and then later there was an abnormally slow goodbye kiss (which she wanted returned and got it - again, this had never happened before). There were tons of ā€œlittle thingsā€ that were out of the ordinary. It was in her eyes too, mine as well probably. Just a really intense, unmistakable, sparkling vibeā€¦ Kind of weird, a bit hard to fully explain (very out of the ordinary behavior for her, and me). It was almost unethical actually :0 Iā€™m kind of glad there was very little tuth in that mix (not to mention the fact that we were at school in the middle of the day) because I really donā€™t like to get involved with friends like her. Even if she is a 10 haha. I canā€™t wait until my bitchy ex-gf comes back in November then we will see if tuth _really really_ works haha. Hell just might freeze over. But the p74 definitely works, especially with some IS on top. ā€œIntoxicatingā€ is 100% how I would describe it in terms of self-effects. Itā€™s basically a euphoria-inducing love potion at the higher doses, from what I have observed on multiple occasions with multiple people. Strong vibe-creating and bonding effects, lots of mutual feeling. Itā€™s pretty good stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 7:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/14 "2008-10-28T07:41:26Z")
> [@tfrankz](#): > > I have tried P74 two times at 20 mcg and get a drunk feel from it. šŸ˜• šŸ˜•. > > Does anyone else feel this and does the self effect get better with time? Ah tried da whole damn togo bottle ā€˜n 2 trials ā€˜n didnā€™t feel ah friggen thang. Not dat ah expected or wanted ta, but ah wiz hoping ta observe sum heavy action outta mah targets ā€˜n got zip. Nuttinā€™ dumber den fallinā€™ on yoā€™ own frickinā€™ sword. If ah wanna git drunk ah sucks down Jack Daniels. But, yeah, ah agrees wiz sweet Bella, these things usually go better paired wiz another mone yoā€™ know well. Trouble is mah togo ran out before ah got ta dat stage. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 8:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/15 "2008-10-28T08:38:10Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > So josef, how much P123 does it take to get you snockered? šŸ˜ƒ Are you still testing it? > > Bella iā€™ve tried p123 on 4 separate occasions now, each time late in the afternoon (typically walking in the door from work) and after opening a nice cold chang beer. iā€™ve noticed that it really magnifies the alcohol ā€œeffectā€ for me. it usually takes 4-5 quarts (6.4% alc.) to get pretty buzzed but after just one quart and 50-60mcgā€™s p123 i feel the same as if iā€™d consumed those 4-5 beers. each time iā€™ve tried it, same result. i tested it once in the morning upon waking up (no beer ā˜¹) and still felt a bit sluggish. this one in particular affects me more directly than any other iā€™ve tried. ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 12:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/16 "2008-10-28T12:19:21Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > I know Iā€™m late to the party, but just for the record, my nickle. > > Iā€™ve used up to 30mcg P74. I get the camaraderie from others but I donā€™t get the intoxicated effect. I didnā€™t get much from it when wearing it alone. Yes, I still notice effects on others - mild ones- when I wear [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) alone - and then when I wear it with Ishine it absolutely makes a tremendous difference from just Ishine alone. Not an intoxicated effect, but there is a nice synergy going on with P74/Ishine that is really exceptionalā€¦ like a cool, social buzz. ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/17 "2008-10-28T22:35:58Z")
Bella Iā€™ll take that nickle. I used [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) on wrists and with 2 shots CTTM back neck, and 2 AMMO shots front neck. Later that night I went to a club, got a drink and was there about 15-20 mins. Three girls pulled out camera and tried to line up their friend so I was in the picture. I said you want a picture of me just ask me!! ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-its-self-effects/22048/18 "2008-10-29T02:07:53Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Warren is buzzinā€™ā€¦lolā€¦is it like an androstenol buzz? I havenā€™t noticed that with P74, but too much androstenol does that to me. I like IO and IH and use them a lot, but Iā€™ve never gotten what Iā€™d call a buzz from them. It was more like Iā€™d had too much espresso, almost jittery. This has happened several times with [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/). In fact, when Iā€™m driving P74 is almost an adequate substitute for coffee to stay alert.