# p74 vs. est.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157>\
**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 27, 2008, 5:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157 "2008-05-27T05:26:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157/21 "2008-05-28T21:07:21Z")

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> [@nbully79](#):
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> I would say the amounts are pretty flexible for each component here. P93 effects were noticeable even at 12.5 mcg, but others have reported better effects at higher dosages. I would suggest starting with lower dosages for P93. You can go 50 mcg for others.
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> We would have to add a lot more components to create MX135 I think.😃

Excellent! Thanks for your help. Once p93 is back in stock I’ll pick up a 12.5 to go.

25mcg. p93  
50 mcg. p74  
50 mcg. taa  
50 mcg. tah

My additions  
2 sprays 4x instant honesty  
4-6 drops copulins

Looks good to me, Bella? Ariadne? I would like to try this with & with out the androstenol & cops.

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157/22 "2008-05-28T21:31:38Z")

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🙂 Yep wer’re on! Thanks nbully. Jus no skunks, mkay? 😃

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**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157/23 "2008-05-28T21:51:10Z")

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> [@inkling](#):
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> Excellent! Thanks for your help. Once p93 is back in stock I’ll pick up a 12.5 to go.
> 
> 25mcg. p93  
> 50 mcg. p74  
> 50 mcg. taa  
> 50 mcg. tah
> 
> My additions  
> 2 sprays 4x instant honesty  
> 4-6 drops copulins
> 
> Looks good to me, Bella? Ariadne? I would like to try this with & with out the androstenol & cops.

I think that looks good! Another component (but basically the same thing) to try would be LAM instead of IH & cops.

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**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 10:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157/24 "2008-05-28T22:42:31Z")

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> [@Bella](#):
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> 🙂 Yep wer’re on! Thanks nbully. Jus no skunks, mkay? 😃

I think we won’t have the hold the skunk’s nose for you bella!😃 Something tells me you smell lovely there…😮

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**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 2:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157/25 "2008-05-29T02:25:28Z")

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> [@ariadne](#):
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> I think that looks good! Another component (but basically the same thing) to try would be Lust After Me instead of Instant Honesty & cops.

That will work Ariadne, until we’ve tested none of us know for sure what the effects will be. I know you have 20x cops, for me it would be easier to use eow because my [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/) is only 5x so I would have to slather on 4 times the amount you’re using to be wearing the same.

I’m open to discussion on amounts chosen too, I had decided to use higher mcg. amounts because I want self effect and responses to be obvious and then tweak from there. And, I am already thinking the tah needs to be upped. LOL

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**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 2:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157/26 "2008-05-29T02:42:45Z")

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> [@inkling](#):
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> And, I am already thinking the tah needs to be upped. LOL

Hmmm, I already use 30mcg of TAH, I’ve never gone over that. I was thinking of trying 50 out tomorrow, just to see if there’s any difference. Maybe I’ll go higher with 60.

I was also going to pair this with an insane dosage of EST, which defeats the purpose of the EST-alternative experiment I know, but I have to wait until the [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) is back in stock!

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157/27 "2008-05-29T03:27:09Z")

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> [@ariadne](#):
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> I was also going to pair this with an insane dosage of EST, which defeats the purpose of the EST-alternative experiment I know, but I have to wait until the P93 is back in stock!

Hmmm ,did we get our little bottle of EST in today? I got mine yesterday, along with some incredible smelling colognes.

Ima gonna try the EST tomorrow I think, in my latest iteration of the ICM 0.25.1a mix with a drop of EOW and the additional 2 molecules.

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**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157/28 "2008-05-29T03:31:18Z")

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> [@mark-in-dallas](#):
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> Hmmm ,did we get our little bottle of EST in today? I got mine yesterday, along with some incredible smelling colognes.
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> Ima gonna try the EST tomorrow I think, in my latest iteration of the ICM 0.25.1a mix with a drop of EOW and the additional 2 molecules.

I didn’t get mine yet, probably tomorrow. And I knew you got yours cause they sent me (I think) your signature confirmation number instead of mine, I had to email Mara to get the right one. LOL

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157/29 "2008-05-29T03:36:56Z")

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> [@inkling](#):
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> I didn’t get mine yet, probably tomorrow. And I knew you got yours cause they sent me (I think) your signature confirmation number instead of mine

Probably, cause I never got one. No worries though, cause I got my goodies! 😃

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157/30 "2008-05-29T04:27:01Z")

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> [@nbully79](#):
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> I think we won’t have the hold the skunk’s nose for you bella!😃 Something tells me you smell lovely there…😮

😮 LOL! 😉 😃

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157/31 "2008-05-29T20:01:10Z")

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No wonder I didnt get my DC confirmation. It probably went to someone else LOL Well I got my package today 😃 Yippeeeeee It had some est…tremely good samples in it LOL

Tisha

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**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157/32 "2008-08-10T16:45:26Z")

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> [@nbully79](#):
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> I think TAH will be a great addition as well, afterall it does make men want to take care of you, and according to many reports, it IS the sweet, teenage, love pheromone.  
> So, I will modify the mix and make it P74+P93+TAA+TAH. Anyone game to try it?😛

Did anyone ever try this combo out? I got a sweet little bottle of [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) in the mail yesterday, but now I’m out of P74! Gotta run and buy some, and it’s on!

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**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-vs-est/13157/33 "2008-08-10T21:34:46Z")

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Even I have put this one off while basking in the glow of summer and mx274. I’m ready. The p93 is 30mcg, thanks Mark. 😉

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